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post #61 of 5448
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Originally Posted by bobby_t1 View Post

I'm almost set on buying this set.. I just need to find a way to:

1. Avoid sales tax
2. Get at least 10% off on some deal
3. Buy it from a store with good warranty

I figure because of #3, i'm goign to have to buy local. I can only hope that Costco or Sears gets the Sammy 5053 in stock.

[EDIT]

I saw it in the local Sears (Hicksville, NY) this past weekend.
post #62 of 5448
Hey all. New to this forum as I just purchased a 4253 that was delivered last week. I love the set although probably needs to be professionally calibrated. but I have noticed what I hope is not a problem.

I have the set hooked up to a D* H20 receiver that is also brand new. sometimes when I change a channel, I get a fairly loud buzzing noise that comes from the TV. I can't tell if the problem is with the H20 or the TV or if the noise is normal (can't imagine it is). I am not sure how else to test the source. If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them.

Thanks.
post #63 of 5448
Any professional reviews on these new Sammy plasmas?
post #64 of 5448
hey guys, also just chiming in. Earlier tonight, i went with my buddy to get his new plasma--we both had our hearts set on the 42" Panny EDTVs, especially since the '05 models were on sale in preparation for the incoming '06 models. He decided to bite the bullet, and we headed to our local BB to get one of the last two in all the BB's of Columbus, OH. While scoppingn out the competition, i stumbled upon the one of the new Sammy 42" EDTV, displayed right over one of the new 42" Panny HDTVs. I stood there for seriously about 45 minutes, cuz i felt like my eyes were deceiving me--it was very clear to me that the new Sammy had significantly better PQ than the new Panny below it, despite the fact that the Panny was even HD! I called one of the floor guys and asked him if it were just me, but he agreed with me, said it might be something with the fact that they recently moved the Panny over from a different display shelf. In any case, this thread and what i saw tonight has sold me on the 42" Sammy EDTV. Anyone out there have the EDTV, or everyone a HDTV buyer?
post #65 of 5448
I really hope to read some good reviews. It's really hard for me to tell in the store what's better than what. They all look pretty close to me in that environment. A coulple of good reviews and it may be time to pull the trigger!
post #66 of 5448
According to most things I have read last year's Samsung HPR5052 had bad reviews. PQ was an issue.........has this year's model changed drastically? You can find the 5052 for almost 1K cheaper than the new model. Is it worth it to get the new model??
post #67 of 5448
worth it yes it is. pq is drastically improved and alot of people are prefering this tv over the panny's this yr. i know i did =D

1 quick question if any one can answer it...
Whats the response time on this tv? anyone kno?
post #68 of 5448
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Originally Posted by S.E View Post

worth it yes it is. pq is drastically improved and alot of people are prefering this tv over the panny's this yr. i know i did =D

1 quick question if any one can answer it...
Whats the response time on this tv? anyone kno?

I agree with you. See my earlier post in this thread. I can't wait until Saturday to get this 5053 in my house. I felt that the picture quality was better than the panny and the styling was way better too. As far as response time, I am looking into that for you.
post #69 of 5448
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Originally Posted by S.E View Post

Whats the response time on this tv? anyone kno?

Response time isn't an issue with plasmas, as the individual pixels refresh faster than the human eye can detect. If there's artifacting or something like that on a plasma, it's most likely a result of the internal scaler.
post #70 of 5448
ahh ok i get you. So response on a plasma will always be superior to lcd's? or it jus matters on the scaler in the tv model
post #71 of 5448
From what I know response times on Plasmas are far superior to LCDs. If you need a flat panel tv for fast moving images always go for Plasma over LCD at this moment in time.

Regrading my posts on page 1 and 2:

The heat issue seems to be very low now on my HP-4253. I am 70 hours in to my 100 hr break in period using the SVCD by Evangelo2. This tv is running great at the current moment in time and my concerns with heat have gone now.

Can't wait for Saturday when I finally have HD Digital Cable hooked up to this and once I break 100hours so I can finally use my Xbox 360 on it!
post #72 of 5448
I ordered by s5053 over a week ago from hideflifestyle. They don't have it in stock yet... hopefully by Friday. I put the wall mount plate up last night, so this thing will be ready to hang as soon as it gets to my house!

The suspense is killing me!
post #73 of 5448
hey Paulluse I need to come up with an appropriate wall mount for my HP-S4253... is there a uniformed pattern or type I should be getting that you know of?
thx,
CH
post #74 of 5448
yeh i would also know if this thing can take universal wall mounts. Glad someone has mounted or gonna mount it. Before i go wasting my money on somethin that dont work.
post #75 of 5448
I looked through the thread and haven't seen anything on this...

What are the abilities of the Sammy to zoom or change the aspect ratio of: Component and HDMI inputs?
Can it zoom a 1080i or 720p input?

Also... what are the adjustments like.
Are they limited to the typical Brightness, Contrast, sharpness, etc... or do they include gamma, individual color controls, color temp. etc?

Thanks

shane
post #76 of 5448
I'm so close to getting this screen.........!

and its getting so annoying not finding any professional reviews of it!

Also....the HDMI interface does not support PC inputs...which is almost preventing me from buying the 50"...
post #77 of 5448
I looked at this set a CC today and it is really pretty nice. Of course they had the out of the box settings on them but I thought (after 5 minutes of looking at them) that it was as good as the Panasonic 50/60U in the same store. Nice aesthetics to the set as well. Impressive.

Is there a bigger set like this coming out from Samsung?
post #78 of 5448
can somebody explain what torch mode and breaking in are considered. I hit the 100hr mark and im bout to do the avia dvd. Ill post my settings sometime tommorow see if they match up with any of the other owners to see if im doing anything wrong.(this is my first plasma)
post #79 of 5448
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Originally Posted by bshplt View Post

Also....the HDMI interface does not support PC inputs...which is almost preventing me from buying the 50"...

What do you mean the HDMI doesn't support PC inputs?
post #80 of 5448
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Originally Posted by S.E View Post

can somebody explain what torch mode and breaking in are considered. I hit the 100hr mark and im bout to do the avia dvd. Ill post my settings sometime tommorow see if they match up with any of the other owners to see if im doing anything wrong.(this is my first plasma)

Torch mode is generally considered to be the out of the box superbright, super-colorful settings (factory default) that plasma tv's seem to have from the factory. See Panasonics' "vivid" mode. I assume it is for attracting the average consumer in a store who is looking at more than one panel brand.

Most folks use 100 hours as a minimum breakin and some would state to take it easy for the next 900 hours. I've read here where the panels have gotten so much better that maybe just the first 100 hours is critical, if that, anymore. Some folks do not concern themselves with it at all. Read the master burn in sticky at the top of this forum, or parts of it.
post #81 of 5448
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Originally Posted by bobby_t1 View Post

What do you mean the HDMI doesn't support PC inputs?



if you look in the manual section that talks about HDMI inputs, it states: "The HDMI/DVI IN jack is not compatible with PC."

post #82 of 5448
Well yesterday my cable company installed the digital set-top box. And to be perfectly honest with ya I'm now more confused than ever. I bought this nice tv thinking that every channel will be great (my first plasma). Sure it potentially puts out an incredible picture ie; HD 720p but it seems not every broadcast station is "making the grade" with this format. Please forgive my newbie explanation of all this. But I assumed that when you buy a kickass 42" 16:9 plasma that ALLLLL your channels should come out clear and 16:9!! This cable guy had mentioned how by 2008 or so that everyone will be broadcasting in HD... I hope so. 480i,1080i,1080p,720p, HD, SD... MAN! too many formats, plz somebody uniform these various formats!
CH (plasma newb has spoken)
post #83 of 5448
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Originally Posted by CrossHair View Post

But I assumed that when you buy a kickass 42" 16:9 plasma that ALLLLL your channels should come out clear and 16:9!!

Sorry CH -- you assumed wrong. There are a lot of crappy standard definition (SD) broadcasts that look worse on a large flat panel.
post #84 of 5448
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Originally Posted by CrossHair View Post

Well yesterday my cable company installed the digital set-top box. And to be perfectly honest with ya I'm now more confused than ever. I bought this nice tv thinking that every channel will be great (my first plasma). Sure it potentially puts out an incredible picture ie; HD 720p but it seems not every broadcast station is "making the grade" with this format. Please forgive my newbie explanation of all this. But I assumed that when you buy a kickass 42" 16:9 plasma that ALLLLL your channels should come out clear and 16:9!! This cable guy had mentioned how by 2008 or so that everyone will be broadcasting in HD... I hope so. 480i,1080i,1080p,720p, HD, SD... MAN! too many formats, plz somebody uniform these various formats!
CH (plasma newb has spoken)

What I did with my cable box is default to 480p for SD and 1080i for HD. These settings seem to give me the best PQ for their corresponding resolutions.

shane
post #85 of 5448
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Originally Posted by AVNoobster View Post

hey guys, also just chiming in. Earlier tonight, i went with my buddy to get his new plasma--we both had our hearts set on the 42" Panny EDTVs, especially since the '05 models were on sale in preparation for the incoming '06 models. He decided to bite the bullet, and we headed to our local BB to get one of the last two in all the BB's of Columbus, OH. While scoppingn out the competition, i stumbled upon the one of the new Sammy 42" EDTV, displayed right over one of the new 42" Panny HDTVs. I stood there for seriously about 45 minutes, cuz i felt like my eyes were deceiving me--it was very clear to me that the new Sammy had significantly better PQ than the new Panny below it, despite the fact that the Panny was even HD! I called one of the floor guys and asked him if it were just me, but he agreed with me, said it might be something with the fact that they recently moved the Panny over from a different display shelf. In any case, this thread and what i saw tonight has sold me on the 42" Sammy EDTV. Anyone out there have the EDTV, or everyone a HDTV buyer?

Were they playing a standard DVD as the source material? If so you wouldn't be able to see a PQ increase from an EDTV to an HDTV, the HDTV might even look worse if the source material were a DVD.
post #86 of 5448
well i did the avia thing, first time using it and i dont know if i did it correct.
here are the settings i came up with, tell me if any of you have the same or close to it please.

brightness 61
contrast 83
sharpness 75
color 60

(for some reason the tint category is greyed out any info on this?)
post #87 of 5448
Hello everyone, Last night my brother and I both purchased the Samsung HP-S5053 for [EDIT]; 1st Plasma either of us own. I also own a 36' Sony Wega HDTV CRT; owned it for three years (excellent in all aspects). I connected the set to my Adelphia provided HD set top box, LG Upconversin DVD player and even tried the Xbox 360 after playing with the TV of some 2-3 hours and I'm confused.... On some HD channels it looks freaking outstanding while on other HD programming it looks, well somewhat FUZZY (shows the digital effects and somtimes darker in some spots), but only with certain content. I switched the HD cables back & forth between the 5053 and my Wega36' HD and noticed that the FUZZiness appeared on both, more noticable on the 5053 because of it's size. Everyone here has a theory that you have to break in the set before playing games and or using a DVD player, is this fact and if so can someone please assist this PLASMA NEWBIE??? Don't get me wrong the Panel is beautiful and does look great, but I was expecting something better then what I already own. Perhaps I'm not setting the calibrations correctly for this tv and would appreciate somne helpful tips, as to what works for those out there who also purchased the 5053. Also I played Episode 3 on my Upconversion player and the BLACK looks extremely dark. I want to keep the set, but if I can't get it the way I want it I'll have to return it before 5 days for a full money back fom Brandsmart, but then again I think I'm doing something wrong if most people on here are pleased with the sets. PLEASE HELP!!! ANYONE...
post #88 of 5448
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Originally Posted by S.E View Post

well i did the avia thing, first time using it and i dont know if i did it correct.
here are the settings i came up with, tell me if any of you have the same or close to it please.

brightness 61
contrast 83
sharpness 75
color 60

(for some reason the tint category is greyed out any info on this?)


I remember reading in the manual that tint becomes unavailable on certain sources.

Avia arrvied today. I plan to use it on Saturday when I get my TV hooked up in its new environment. I have the HP-S4253. Once this is done, I will post my results here so you can compare against mine.

Out of curiousity, how are the black levels now during dark scenes? As marcapi said, I too have noticed a lack of detail and very dark areas during dark scenes. I figured it was down to the calibration as a greyscale showed I was missed 4 or 5 of the darker greys / blacks therefore no distinction was there. How are your settings for dark scenes?
post #89 of 5448
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Originally Posted by S.E View Post

well i did the avia thing, first time using it and i dont know if i did it correct.
here are the settings i came up with, tell me if any of you have the same or close to it please.

brightness 61
contrast 83
sharpness 75
color 60

(for some reason the tint category is greyed out any info on this?)

Can you adjust the aspect ratio (Zoom - Image size - stretch) with and HDMI or other HD source?

Is there an overscan adjustment? How about individual color or gamma? How about color temp?

In other words I'd like to know how adjustable the image is for various sources, since the 'tint' is unavailable with some...

Thanks

shane

edit: also... are settings memorized for each input?
post #90 of 5448
@PhilH930 - Black scenes have improved alot i can actually make out dark scenes which i never doubted i kept it low on the brightness during break in anyways.

@Shane55 - In HDMI and HD Component's i can only do 16:9 and 4:3. Which is not a problem for me because my Adelphia HD DVR takes care of any zooming and stretching and i can switch it on the fly through there. About overscan,individual color,and,gamma it has it in the service menu,But im too nervous to touch anything there besides checking my plasma display time. It does have color temps on the regular menu as Cool1,Cool2,Normal,Warm1,and Warm2.

And last but not least yes settings are memorized by each input,I found that to be very relaxing.lol.

Quick note i just recently edited the settings a little as it seemed too bright for nighttime viewing so here are my most recent

Contrast 75
Brightness 61
Sharpness 75
Color 53

With a color temp of Cool1.
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