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post #3031 of 5103
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Originally Posted by Berklon View Post

Actually by using the conversion a $499 USD price tag should be $550 CDN.

It's frustrating when they're gouging Canadian consumers for an extra $150-$250 CDN.

Yes, you are correct. I was using a 1.20 instead of 1.10 for my conversion factor. Probably the biggest reason for the gouging is simply volume. Ten times as many consumers makes for lower prices. One extreme example is the AE900. The price in the US (using the $400 US rebate) is $900 to $1200 CDN cheaper than in Canada. Ridiculous! And then we have to pay 7% PST and 7% GST on top of that (in BC)!
post #3032 of 5103
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Originally Posted by dazzerxxx View Post

mfabien

What version of firmware does your player have (setup - maintenance - update)

Dazzer

HD-A1 with version 1.0/1.09/2.00
post #3033 of 5103
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Originally Posted by jumpy27 View Post

Yes, you are correct. I was using a 1.20 instead of 1.10 for my conversion factor. Probably the biggest reason for the gouging is simply volume. Ten times as many consumers makes for lower prices. One extreme example is the AE900. The price in the US (using the $400 US rebate) is $900 to $1200 CDN cheaper than in Canada. Ridiculous! And then we have to pay 7% PST and 7% GST on top of that (in BC)!

Given that kind of pricing history don't you find it really "odd" that Epson sells the 550 in Canada for much less than they do in the US? At least according to a price given me by a guy in BC months ago... Of course then I have always found Epsons pricing models vis a vie USA/Europe quite unconventional...
post #3034 of 5103
That is odd. I guess every brand has different policies in different countries. I emailed Panasonic about the huge price difference and they said that Panasonic Canada is a separate entity from Panasonic USA (no $400 rebates in Canada). The MSRP is very similar in both countries, but the streetprices are very different.
post #3035 of 5103
Enjoy my player and finally got a chance to get to Best Buy to see the demo disc.

Of course they had the thing hooked to that Westinghouse display. Double checked to make sure it was 1080i, then I look at some of the trailers. Honestly, even looking hard I couldn't tell anything special about it compared to a regular dvd. Could it be the size of the tv, the fact it was in the brightest lit area, and or the display sucks. Watching the Batman trailer, I could tell some brick on buildings looked sharper, but even face shots looked nothing special, I had seen clearer shots on SD dvd.

I wish they would move the player to the opening of the Magnolia area where they have a 60-70 inch screen visible to those walking by, low light, and seating. It was playing chicken little at the time.

So, with the setup I see at Best Buy, people will just walk by it, maybe glance, but will have no idea it's suppose to be hd unless they look at the small tag by the player that says hd-dvd, then they'll probably go, huh, looks no different, that's if they even know what HD is and what to look for, but it should be obvious the benifit to one that's never heard of HD, this setup doesn't do that
post #3036 of 5103
Yet to receive an HD DVD to feed my A1...

Went to Best Buy Saturday and asked if they have any HD DVD, answer was HD DVD? Walked out.

Sunday I checked Future Shop online (now owned by BB) for Serenity HD DVD, and it showed that my local store had 2 in stock. So went there, asked for it, had 2 employees searching for me (they never heard about HD DVD)... there computer did show they had 2 in stock. They found 3 SD DVDs for Serenity and asked me if that would do... they said that maybe the 2 HD DVDs got stolen! They had nothing else in HD DVD.

This morning checked Future Shop online and the local store has the HD-A1 player. My guess is that the Serenity HD DVD is in or near the player on the second floor where HDTVs are displayed. You would guess that the store management would see to it that employees in the DVD section would be aware of the existence of HD DVD.
post #3037 of 5103
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Originally Posted by mfabien View Post

Yet to receive an HD DVD to feed my A1...

Went to Best Buy Saturday and asked if they have any HD DVD, answer was HD DVD? Walked out.

Sunday I checked Future Shop online (now owned by BB) for Serenity HD DVD, and it showed that my local store had 2 in stock. So went there, asked for it, had 2 employees searching for me (they never heard about HD DVD)... there computer did show they had 2 in stock. They found 3 SD DVDs for Serenity and asked me if that would do... they said that maybe the 2 HD DVDs got stolen! They had nothing else in HD DVD.

This morning checked Future Shop online and the local store has the HD-A1 player. My guess is that the Serenity HD DVD is in or near the player on the second floor where HDTVs are displayed. You would guess that the store management would see to it that employees in the DVD section would be aware of the existence of HD DVD.

Back in 97 i asked for some DVD movies they asked me, "whats that?"
post #3038 of 5103
I looked and called BB and RC Willey here in Boise to try to obtain an HD-A1. RC Willey didn't have one and said they were back ordered. BB said they would have them in Sunday for their new add coming out. The salesman told me they would have only ONE unit for sale. So I basically gave up. I was at a local mall here and was walking by SEARS with my wife and had a recollection of someone on here saying that that Sears would sell them. I thought " what the heck, I might as well ask" There was no display and no signs. I asked the salesman and he looked at their inventory in the computer. He said, that they had one in back according to the computer, but he was skeptical. He headed back there and lo and behold he brought it to me. I asked him if he had any HD-DVD's and again headed back and came out with Serenity and Apollo 13. I jumped for joy (inside) and purchased the machine for 470.99 and the disks for 29.99 each. I took it home and set it up. The on screen menu was easy to navigate to configure my machine. I set it up with the HDMI chord and an optical audio cable. It only took about 10 minutes or so. I popped Apollo 13 in. It did take about 40-45 seconds to load, but I immediately got the music and the UNIVERSAL logo. AWESOME sound (no 10 fewer decibals problem) and picture. The machine ran flawlessly. I also put in Revenge of the Sith and the upconverted picture was superb. Through 8 or so uses this player is flawless and the picture is outstanding on my Sony 50" LCD. I'm giddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #3039 of 5103
Hello,

Is there anyway to bypass the HD DVD commercial on each disk?
post #3040 of 5103
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Originally Posted by purduealum91 View Post

Hello,

Is there anyway to bypass the HD DVD commercial on each disk?

Chapter skip forward.

- Rich
post #3041 of 5103
I just called my local sears and he said they have 1 on display but none in stock. I had him check 2 other local stores and they had none. He said they had a bunch in the warehouse and it would be shipped to my local store Friday. You also can order from Sears on line and they will ship for free. The problem is they show out of stock on line. The price is 499. How did you get the 470 price. I tried to find any on line but had no luck, everybody's out of stock. Netflix has a good supply of HD-DVDS.

Thanks, Jeff
post #3042 of 5103
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Originally Posted by TimothyB View Post

Enjoy my player and finally got a chance to get to Best Buy to see the demo disc.

Of course they had the thing hooked to that Westinghouse display. Double checked to make sure it was 1080i, then I look at some of the trailers. Honestly, even looking hard I couldn't tell anything special about it compared to a regular dvd. Could it be the size of the tv, the fact it was in the brightest lit area, and or the display sucks. Watching the Batman trailer, I could tell some brick on buildings looked sharper, but even face shots looked nothing special, I had seen clearer shots on SD dvd.

I wish they would move the player to the opening of the Magnolia area where they have a 60-70 inch screen visible to those walking by, low light, and seating. It was playing chicken little at the time.

So, with the setup I see at Best Buy, people will just walk by it, maybe glance, but will have no idea it's suppose to be hd unless they look at the small tag by the player that says hd-dvd, then they'll probably go, huh, looks no different, that's if they even know what HD is and what to look for, but it should be obvious the benifit to one that's never heard of HD, this setup doesn't do that

I had the same experience on the same display. But when I told the salesman that my 9000ES has better PQ he suggested that he could move the player to the SONY SXRD - what a difference!! Anyway, I also asked if could be moved to one of the Magnolia displays and was told that because the Toshiba was not one of their lines they would not allow it into the area. How about that for being on the leading edge of technology!
post #3043 of 5103
Apparently they had an introductory sale on them from 5-1 to 5-6. The actual retail price on my receipt was 474.99. (My mistake from above) I know it's kind of funny to have a sale on something you have so few of.
post #3044 of 5103
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Originally Posted by purduealum91 View Post

Hello,

Is there anyway to bypass the HD DVD commercial on each disk?

I HATE those....my preference (for DVD or HD-DVD) is for the movie just to immediately start after you put it in. If you want to access something else, you can go into the menu.

I love the way paramount did the godfather trilogy. You pop it in and then see the movie. Perfect.

I guess there is no getting around advertising nowadays whether its at the theater or on dvds. I wouldnt be surprised if we saw a coke advertisement at the beginning of DVDs soon.....or better yet, a little coke logo in the black area of a 2.35:1 presentation. Ha.
post #3045 of 5103
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo View Post

I HATE those....my preference (for DVD or HD-DVD) is for the movie just to immediately start after you put it in. If you want to access something else, you can go into the menu.

I love the way paramount did the godfather trilogy. You pop it in and then see the movie. Perfect.

I guess there is no getting around advertising nowadays whether its at the theater or on dvds. I wouldnt be surprised if we saw a coke advertisement at the beginning of DVDs soon.....or better yet, a little coke logo in the black area of a 2.35:1 presentation. Ha.


The irony of Warner having the HD DVD promo play before the movie, hawking as one of the benefits that the movie starts immediately, seems to have been utterly lost on the suits there.
post #3046 of 5103
My Zenith 318 upconverting player has a feature thay bypasses ads, previews, menus, etc. and goes directly to the feature, so it is possible.

Not sure if the HD media is different, but I would guess that the feature film is the largest of the files present on the DVD. I believe that is how the Zenith did it's bypass feature.

Might be possible on the Toshiba through a firmware update. See how interested Toshiba is in meeting user expectations. My guess, not very.
post #3047 of 5103
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Originally Posted by aydu View Post

My Zenith 318 upconverting player has a feature thay bypasses ads, previews, menus, etc. and goes directly to the feature, so it is possible.

Not sure if the HD media is different, but I would guess that the feature film is the largest of the files present on the DVD. I believe that is how the Zenith did it's bypass feature.

Might be possible on the Toshiba through a firmware update. See how interested Toshiba is in meeting user expectations. My guess, not very.

Hm, how does that work with something like Bridge on the River Kwai, where it was split into two separate titles in its original release?
post #3048 of 5103
Picked up A1 last Saturday @ local BB, have watched TLS, Serenity, a little bit of Apollo 13, & some regular dvd's.
Have had no glitches w/ player. The picture is excellent, not quite as eyepopping as Sportcenter HD over comcast, but I guess this is normal. I'm really impressed w/ the upconversion of regular dvd's, which used to look terrible using a Pioneer progressive scan player, now they look nearly as good as the HD dvd's.
Watching on a Hitachi 55" plasma, using the 1080i output from player. Thanks for all the info in your posts
post #3049 of 5103
For those of us making use of the TV's DVI input for the first time...

For Component, in my Picture Settings I always had Color Temperature as "Cool".

This morning I replayed "Serenity" on the HD-A1, because on my first try yesterday there was nothing to yell WOW ! I then changed the Color temperature to "Medium", ah, saw I was on the right track. Then I changed it to "Warm" and that was it.

Now I can feel I made a good purchase.

Note: Last Friday when I checked my Picture Settings with an AVIA DVD, everything was fine and no changes were required in Contrast, Brightness, Color or Sharpness. But the Color temperature never came to mind. That appears to require close attention when changing from Component to DVI.
post #3050 of 5103
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Originally Posted by Mark Zimmer View Post

The irony of Warner having the HD DVD promo play before the movie, hawking as one of the benefits that the movie starts immediately, seems to have been utterly lost on the suits there.

If you press chapter forward it will skip that chapter and go to the movie.
post #3051 of 5103
picked up mine @ the local BB last night. it worked just fine with the panny hdmi receiver and the picture looks really good on the 42' lcd (hdmi input)
load times are not that bad, I was expecting allot worse after reading the posts. what I was really impressed was the quality of SD DVDs and that compared with the panny S97 upconverting player.
post #3052 of 5103
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Originally Posted by gabb7 View Post

picked up mine @ the local BB last night. it worked just fine with the panny hdmi receiver and the picture looks really good on the 42' lcd (hdmi input)
load times are not that bad, I was expecting allot worse after reading the posts. what I was really impressed was the quality of SD DVDs and that compared with the panny S97 upconverting player.

Before Christmas I was planning to upgrade my 1998 Toshiba SD-3109 player (that only outputted 480i on the component video) to an upscaling unit like the Panasonic S77/97 player. But I decided to waited to see the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players first. Since Blu-Ray movies are been limited to old codecs and disc size, I bought the Toshiba's HD-A1 and so far I'm impressed, it's the best video upgrade since the DVD player in 1998!

Enjoy your HD-DVD player!

...Angelo
post #3053 of 5103
What would really be nice is if Toshiba would include the "demo" DVD with each player...

I think that would really be nice to use to show your friends the difference between std and HD at least in the DVD world...

Wonder how we can get Toshiba to send us one.....
post #3054 of 5103
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Originally Posted by HiHoStevo View Post

What would really be nice is if Toshiba would include the "demo" DVD with each player...

I think that would really be nice to use to show your friends the difference between std and HD at least in the DVD world...

Wonder how we can get Toshiba to send us one.....

I have both HD-DVD and DVD versions of Apollo 13. Just start with the DVD for a couple of minutes and then change to the HD-DVD and see the reaction.

...Angelo
post #3055 of 5103
I watched the Doom HD-DVD that I got from Blockbuster online last night. First thing I did when I received the disc was check the surface for damage as many DVDs come from BB online in pretty rough shape. The HD-DVD had a few big finger prints and several light but very obvious surface scratches. The scratches were confined to about a 45 degree slice of the disc and started about halfway out from the center. The scratches become slightly deeper and more numerous as they progressed from the center.

I played the disc without any atemp to clean it. The disc exibited audio drop outs about half way through the movie. After several audio drop outs in a row, the audio and video became out of sync. Pausing the movie resynced the audio to the video. I haven't experienced this with any of the HD-DVDs that I own. My discs will never get as bad as this one example but I might be a little leary about loaning them out to others. I wonder if subsequent players will be able to handle damaged disc better in the future. In my opinion if this disc was a DVD with the same amount of damage or more, it would have played in any of my other players without a hiccup.
post #3056 of 5103
I am not an audiophile but I did the following test with my XA-1:

I current have a Bose LS 48 HT system that is currently connected using the Digital audio input from the XA-1. Last night I connected the XA-1 to my Denon AVR 2106 also using the Digital audio connection. In general both systems sounded about the same.

I then compared using analog connections. While the Denon still sounded pretty good (about the same), the sound on the Bose was muffled and much much lower volume - the Bose analog output was totally unacceptable (luckily the Digital works fine). I can't figure out why digital would sound the same in put receivers, but analog so different! If anyone knows, it would be interesting to know
post #3057 of 5103
Not to start a flame war, but it's probably the Bose. Try the same test, analog and digital, on the Denon.
post #3058 of 5103
Look out, the replies will really start coming now It's the Bose (see the speaker and receiver forums here for further info).
post #3059 of 5103
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Originally Posted by mrwilson View Post

Not to start a flame war, but it's probably the Bose. Try the same test, analog and digital, on the Denon.

That's what I did. Both analog and digital sounded great on the Denon. Digital sounded great as well on the Bose, but the analog really sucked!

Now, I don't want to be seen as a Bose basher - to the contrary in the speaker forum I have defended Bose for what they are (pretty vigorously at that )

Was just stating my observation. The funny part is that in the Bose manual they say to connect both Analog and digital so that IF there is a digital audio loss the analog would keep the sound stream uniterrupted. But at 4K for the Bose, I was honestly pretty disappointed - could not figure out why digital and analog would be so different - like day and night!
post #3060 of 5103
Very interesting report on How the Player Handles less than perfect disks. I get disks from Netflix regulard Standard DVD's that are Beat beyond recognition, and still amaziingly play, it'll be interesting in time to make that HD-DVD Comparision.
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