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post #151 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Kipp Jones View Post

I just tried HD video from a JVC GR-HD1 played back on the Sony HDV-HC1 to capture using MF5 and nothing came through on MF5. Any ideas?

The 720p@29.97 format used by the JVC GR-HD1 is not allowed in the HD-DVD specification.

Ron
post #152 of 1475
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Originally Posted by brente View Post

thanks - I've had no luck with DVD-RW discs at all, so will pick up a +RW tomorrow and give it a try...

I tested Sony DVD-RW with HD DVD content and they played just fine on my HD-A1 !

Fr123
post #153 of 1475
I had success with my first full single layered HD DVD +. The downside is it only holds around 25 minutes of HD video.

I am working on a dual-layered next.

Man I really wish true HD DVD burners were out.

There is no option in VideoStudio 10 to create a bitstream.
post #154 of 1475
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Originally Posted by dr1394 View Post

The 720p@29.97 format used by the JVC GR-HD1 is not allowed in the HD-DVD specification.

Ron

Thanks Ron, what about the Blu-Ray spec?
post #155 of 1475
I switched to a brand new DVD-RW and it did work fine...
post #156 of 1475
I noticed this on an other thread.::

FYI to anyone interested...

I couldnt get my Memorex and Ritek DVD+R DL discs to work. Well, I figured it out. My plextor DVD burner had a default setting to change all DL booktypes to DVD-ROM.

That caused the issue. When I unchecked that box in my plextor burner tools, I burned one and it worked fine.

Im a much happier camper now since this was one of the major issues that I had with the player (now if they can just speed up those load times with a firmware update ).

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post #157 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Eugene157 View Post

I noticed this on an other thread.::

FYI to anyone interested...

I couldnt get my Memorex and Ritek DVD+R DL discs to work. Well, I figured it out. My plextor DVD burner had a default setting to change all DL booktypes to DVD-ROM.

That caused the issue. When I unchecked that box in my plextor burner tools, I burned one and it worked fine.

Im a much happier camper now since this was one of the major issues that I had with the player (now if they can just speed up those load times with a firmware update ).

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So are you saying that when the DL DVD is booktyped as DVD-ROM it didnt work? Usually the reverse is true with most DVD players. Has anyone played a DVD-DL booktyped as DVD-ROM with success?


Kevin
post #158 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Chauncey View Post

I've tried to take the following and author it in Ulead Video Studio 10:

Format: WMV HD
Resolution: 1440 x 816
Frames per Second: 24
Sound: 5.1 audio

In Ulead I selected 1920 x 1080 HD-DVD and selected 3/2 channel Dolby Digital bitstream. It made the ISO fine, but the video is very jerky and there is no bitstream. I presume that Ulead is not doing the 3:2 pulldown correctly, and hence the jerkiness. The picture looks fantastic otherwise. Anyone else try to convert an WMV HD file? Any luck on getting the sound in bitstream format? Any other thoughts?

Thanks,

Chauncey-
The jerky video problem may be the step where MF 5 converts (transcodes) the WMV video from 1440x816 to 1920 x 1080, and doesn't do a very good job of it. You may want to try to create a 1920x1080 WMV file first. I've yet to see a cheap tool that does a good job transcoding video. Therefore, I'm going to try better tools like either Sony Vegas 6 or Adobe Premiere.
post #159 of 1475
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Originally Posted by jediod View Post

So are you saying that when the DL DVD is booktyped as DVD-ROM it didnt work? Usually the reverse is true with most DVD players. Has anyone played a DVD-DL booktyped as DVD-ROM with success?


Kevin


no wonder Nero wouldnt work for me.... it sets the book type on all +Rs
post #160 of 1475
JEDIOD, this came from the Toshiba AD1 thread, I just copied from page 92+- since it was related.
Eugene
post #161 of 1475
Some more copied on that subject, from page 92 Toshiba thread.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RockStrongo
FYI to anyone interested...

I couldnt get my Memorex and Ritek DVD+R DL discs to work. Well, I figured it out. My plextor DVD burner had a default setting to change all DL booktypes to DVD-ROM.

That caused the issue. When I unchecked that box in my plextor burner tools, I burned one and it worked fine.

Im a much happier camper now since this was one of the major issues that I had with the player (now if they can just speed up those load times with a firmware update ).


My Memorex and Verbatim SL and DL discs are all set to change the booktype to DVD-Rom. They work in my A1 no problem.
+R DL and SL and +RW discs all work fine in my A1. I don't have any problems with the several discs I've tried.

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post #162 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Kipp Jones View Post

Thanks Ron, what about the Blu-Ray spec?

Sorry, 720p@29.97 is not allowed in Blu-Ray either.

Ron
post #163 of 1475
Do I have conversion options to eventually get the content on Disc in HD?
post #164 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Kipp Jones View Post

Do I have conversion options to eventually get the content on Disc in HD?

Others may be aware of cheap or free options to convert, but Adobe Premiere Pro should allow you to pull in the HDV footage from the JVC and then output it as a more friendly form for use with HD DVD. I'm not speaking from experience, because I've never used the JVC, but Premiere's output options are flexible.
post #165 of 1475
What kind of menu options are available for HD DVDs?

What I've decided to do is download the trial version of VideoStudio 10 and create a 16 minute HD DVD of a program I shot with the HC1. I'll ask to try it out at a local Best Buy that has two demo locations for the Toshiba, but no demo disk. That way, I can get a feel for the time involved in the creaton process.
post #166 of 1475
Actually, I decided to use MF5, since I've never used Video Studio. It's chugging away and I'm going to bed. The file I used is a little less than 11 minutes long, shot in the Missouri Botanical Garden here in St. Louis and edited in Adobe Premiere Pro, with a Dolby Digital stereo soundtrack. The DD soundtrack is a Premiere conversion option and different than the native MPEG audio recorded on the Sony HDR-HC1 camcorder.

Tomorrow, I'll burn the disk and take it to Best Buy to see if it will play. They've been without a demo disk since they started selling the Toshiba, so, hopefully, the A1 will lose its HD DVD virginity.

This is fun.

Quick update. The project finished fast enough that I stayed up to complete it. It's burning now and I'll report tomorrow if it worked at the Best Buy.
post #167 of 1475
I got less than perfect results from my HDV based project. I experienced video jitter (not interlace combing, but what looks like field based jitter). I'll check the thread to see if maybe a field dominance issue crept in. I also had audio stuttering throughout that never cleared up (a rat-a-tat-tat that sounded like the video looked). The MPEG file that I used to create the HD DVD content plays back without incident in MyHD - both audio and video are perfect. I clicked the option not to recompress in MF5, so that shouldn't have been a problem. I'm rereading the thread to see if some of this has been experienced before.

Two side notes. The player froze and I had to unplug it to get my disk out before I left. Also, hitting play at the main menu didn't work. The "cursor" had to be moved to the play button and then the select button pressed for the video to play.

Is there a DVD-like menu somewhere in the A1 that allows a user to set up basic player parameters as we have with most DVD players?
post #168 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Eugene157 View Post

Some more copied on that subject, from page 92 Toshiba thread.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RockStrongo
FYI to anyone interested...

I couldnt get my Memorex and Ritek DVD+R DL discs to work. Well, I figured it out. My plextor DVD burner had a default setting to change all DL booktypes to DVD-ROM.

That caused the issue. When I unchecked that box in my plextor burner tools, I burned one and it worked fine.

Im a much happier camper now since this was one of the major issues that I had with the player (now if they can just speed up those load times with a firmware update ).


My Memorex and Verbatim SL and DL discs are all set to change the booktype to DVD-Rom. They work in my A1 no problem.
+R DL and SL and +RW discs all work fine in my A1. I don't have any problems with the several discs I've tried.

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My 1080P DLP and sample pics(calibration by ELIAB!)



I have played some Verbatim DVD+R DL booktyped as DVD-ROM with no problems on The A1. I will try some Riteks and Memorexs too and let you guys know.


Kevin
post #169 of 1475
Update: I just played a Memorex DVD+R DL booktyped as DVD-ROM in the A1...No problems!
post #170 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

I got less than perfect results from my HDV based project. I

How long did it take MF5 to create the HDDVD files? It takes about 8 minutes for me with a 37 minute clip, because there is no transcoding going on. If it is taking you very long to create the clip, then MF5 is doing something...and you don't want that.
post #171 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

How long did it take MF5 to create the HDDVD files? It takes about 8 minutes for me with a 37 minute clip, because there is no transcoding going on. If it is taking you very long to create the clip, then MF5 is doing something...and you don't want that.

I wasn't expecting it to happen as fast as it did, and I wasn't noting the time. It was very fast, though, for my 11 minutes, just a few minutes. I've been very busy and haven't had a chance to recheck the settings yet.
post #172 of 1475
I tried encoding an mpeg file at 1080/30p and Video Studio wouldn't accept it. It said it was an invalid format. Will 1080/24p work? I know 1080/29.97i worked.

Thanks,
post #173 of 1475
I had problems too. My source was 1280x1088 though. It had it transcode to 1440x1080, to keep the size down. I wish you could use non-compliant files and just burn. The transcoding sucks and takes forever. Didn't playback very well on the A1. Will try 1920x1080 next time. One good thing, though, under the transcoding options I was able to select Dolby Digital as the audio type.
post #174 of 1475
Dual layer verbatims burnt by my NEC and Pioneer burners all play fine, but they are set to book type dvd-rom by Nero 6 automatically, and it also generates high compatible borders. I am told that helps.
post #175 of 1475
I tried a Rick Steves Europe program recorded from HDNet (1920x1080i). The video was perfect, but the audio stuttered as it did yesterday with the program from my HC1 that I output from Premiere with a Dolby Digital 2.0 soundtrack. The Rick Steves, I think, is 5.1 Dolby Digital.

Has anyone here authored an HD DVD in VideoStudio 10 and, if so, can you provide a step by step for setting up a project with 5.1 audio?

I tried a straight .m2t file of my HDV based project from Premiere. It played perfectly (audio and video), but the program begins at about 3:00 minutes in from the beginning of the file. The receiver displays that audio as PCM.

Another strange thing - some files (like the Rick Steves program) load into MF5 very quickly (a few seconds). Others (also recorded the same way and at the same resolution - R5000 modded Dish 211 to my computer) take forever to load into MF5, and the computer becomes unresponsive and MF5 crashes.

Any thoughts?
post #176 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Another strange thing - some files (like the Rick Steves program) load into MF5 very quickly (a few seconds). Others (also recorded the same way and at the same resolution - R5000 modded Dish 211 to my computer) take forever to load into MF5, and the computer becomes unresponsive and MF5 crashes.

Any thoughts?

Running the file through Womble Mpeg-VCR fixed this exact problem for me.

Marc.
post #177 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Marc D Carra View Post

Running the file through Womble Mpeg-VCR fixed this exact problem for me.

Marc.

Is this a free program or pay? I am going to try VideoRedo tonight. So far, the files I've tried were edited with HDTVtoMPEG2.
post #178 of 1475
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Is this a free program or pay? I am going to try VideoRedo tonight. So far, the files I've tried were edited with HDTVtoMPEG2.

The files I create with VideoReDo take forever to load into MF5.
post #179 of 1475
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Originally Posted by MichaelZ View Post

Ditto

output as a program stream
post #180 of 1475
I managed to put together what I think is a pretty slick HD DVD of my HC1 project, with full menu and chapter stops (and animated menus). Tomorrow is the test. Back to Best Buy. I think the chances are pretty good that this will work. Rendering all this, however, took a long, long time. Native 1920x1080 files seem to fly through the process, but HDV files must have to be re-rendered from their native 1440x1080 to 1920x1080. Add the animated menus to the process and it's a serious wait.

To clarify the audio question about Dolby Digital - does MF5 support DD 5.1 if it is native to the file from the beginning? I know you need Video Studio 10 to create and manipulate 5.1 audio for projects you're working on, but if the 5.1 audio is native to the file will it be retained?

I did another Rick Steves episode tonight and I doubt I can expect anything but stuttering audio from it, too. What kinds of results are you guys getting with 5.1 audio?
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