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post #31 of 61
The HD-A1 has a hardware decoder (from broadcom I believe), and I believe that takes care of AACS. I don't believe the drive has much of anything to do with AACS (similar to CSS).
post #32 of 61
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Any ideas how HD-DVD playback is achieved in the Toshiba laptop?

The new WinDVD is a totally self contained application with NO external interfaces. Encryped data flows across the bus from the HD-DVD drive to the WinDVD executable and the executable sends screen buffers to the video card after validating that there is only a digital connection between the video card and the display. I am not sure how the HDMI handshaking would be performed, though. I am thinking that this player will require a video card with an HDMI HDCP enabled port.
Very different from the MS DX9 model which is modular and allows anyone to substitute their own navigator code, video decoder code, audio decoder code, postprocessing code, video renderer and/or audio renderer. This model makes it simple to capture the video and audio at any one of a number of published interface connections.

The downside of the WinDVD / PowerDVD integrated player means no aspect ratio control, no variable blanking, and no adjustable scaling unless code to perform these functions has been included in the WinDVD executable.

PowerDVD is likely doing the exact same thing.

Vern
post #33 of 61
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Originally Posted by Vern Dias View Post

The new WinDVD is a totally self contained application with NO external interfaces. Encryped data flows across the bus from the HD-DVD drive to the WinDVD executable and the executable sends screen buffers to the video card after validating that there is only a digital connection between the video card and the display. I am not sure how the HDMI handshaking would be performed, though.

It's possible that on a laptop, no HDCP is necessary since the digital connection to the display may not be considered a "user accessible bus".
post #34 of 61
Thread Starter 
I loaded Vista Beta 2 (build 5381.1), and at first things looked good:



Still ok:



But when I attempted to load Serenity in Media Center I got this:

post #35 of 61
Not sure if this has been posted....

http://www.digitaleditor.com/06050606
post #36 of 61
for my DVD-Audio discs i use Creative's Media Source DVD Audio player which, when installed, uses a process/driver to ensure encryption etc. I wonder if HD-DVD will work in a similar way by using a yet-unreleased system process?


Matt.
post #37 of 61
This is a very interesting thread. Any new updates? Did anybody try just released software HD players (InterVideo WinDVD HD, etc.) with this drive?
post #38 of 61
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Originally Posted by yzkbug View Post

This is a very interesting thread. Any new updates? Did anybody try just released software HD players (InterVideo WinDVD HD, etc.) with this drive?

There are currently no retail software HD-DVD or Bluray players available for the U.S. market.
post #39 of 61
Here is a review of PureVideo HD from Anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2798&p=2

The hardware they used:

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Full specs of the system NVIDIA brought for us to test are as follows:

CPU: Intel Pentium D 830
RAM: 1GB DDR2 533
Chipset: Intel 945G
Graphics: MSI 7600GT w/ HDCP
Display: Westinghouse LVM-42W2
HD-DVD Drive: Toshiba TS-L802
OS: Windows XP SP2
HD-DVD Player: CyberLink PowerDVD (for HD-DVD)

Notice they have an MSI 7600GT with HDCP support and a Toshiba-branded HD-DVD drive. Who knows if the NEC one from the Toshiba HD-A1 will work? At least the player software is for Windows XP....

(BTW, doesn't the motherboard and CPU look strongly like the HD-A1's internals? )
post #40 of 61
any updates/news on getting the drive within the tosh players to work in a PC...any drivers yet?

[EDIT: Anyone dissect the firmware upgrade CDs sent out by Toshiba to see if any drivers might be lurking there?]
post #41 of 61
As I also wrote on that page of Lorint, HD-DVD uses UDF 2.5. Windows XP does not support this. To see the contents of the disk and extract files, you can use IsoBuster. Or if you have a Mac, put the drive in a USB case. OS-X reads UDF 2.5 without any problem.
post #42 of 61
Any updates on using the Nec 1100 drive in a pc to play movies?
post #43 of 61
Quick (dumb) question...

If the Toshiba is a P4 with all standard PC components why couldnt someone build it in a HTPC case and use a dual boot or something...?

Again, may be dumb, but I didnt see anyone ask this
post #44 of 61
There are specialized chips in there for video and audio decoding - I can't remember if it is on a daughterboard or the motherboard itself.

But, shouldn't be too hard to put it in an HTPC case. You could probably dual-boot into windows - but good luck finding drivers for the video and audio hardware!
post #45 of 61
Probably good luck getting it to boot into anything but it's own flash card.
post #46 of 61
Has anyone made any progress with this? I have my nec in my pc now and I read somewhere that vista would read udf and it does not. Also the udf 2.5 system driver did not allow MCE to read the disc. It plays dvds just fine and I know I have to be close.

I just have no room for this massive dvd player since I already have my media center pc here. I really need it to work on the pc or I might as well take it back and get the xbox hd-dvd player that does work on a pc.
post #47 of 61
no hope?
post #48 of 61
I'm wondering if anyone has gone back and tried it with WinDVD or PowerDVD....
post #49 of 61
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Originally Posted by pclausen View Post

I loaded Vista Beta 2 (build 5381.1), and at first things looked good:


Still ok:


But when I attempted to load Serenity in Media Center I got this:

Has anyone tried the NEC unit in a Vista PC with one of the software players now that they are out? This should work.
post #50 of 61
I´d like to know that as well!
post #51 of 61
I am thinking about selling my 360 drive and dismantling my HD-A1 to get the drive. It is unbelievable that I cannot buy an internal drive for my HTPC

- Rich
post #52 of 61
If I get brave I will try it...
post #53 of 61
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Originally Posted by madpoet View Post

If I get brave I will try it...

With the price of HD DVD players dropping, it may be as cheap to buy a used A1 to get the drive as to get get a 360.

And yet, we cannot just buy the drive

- Rich
post #54 of 61
I have my 1100a in my HTPC (Vista Ultimate) and can't get it to play HDDVD's via WinDVD or PowerDVD... Does this drive just not work? I'm at my wits end here!
post #55 of 61
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Originally Posted by craysv1 View Post

I have my 1100a in my HTPC (Vista Ultimate) and can't get it to play HDDVD's via WinDVD or PowerDVD... Does this drive just not work? I'm at my wits end here!

Is this the drive that was used in the A1? If so, it will not work in windows.

- Rich
post #56 of 61
yeah, it's from the a1... why won't it work? is there no way to flash the firmware from a retail 1100a? it is physically the same drive, no?
post #57 of 61
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Originally Posted by craysv1 View Post

yeah, it's from the a1... why won't it work? is there no way to flash the firmware from a retail 1100a? it is physically the same drive, no?

I do not know why, it apparently does not have the logic to handle the AACS stuff.

I gave up and just used an XBOX360.

- Rich
post #58 of 61
But with AACS being (kinda) hacked and all, there has to be a way now..

I am bound and determined to get an internal player that I don't have to hack the sides off the player to get it to fit into a slot..
post #59 of 61
Anyone with the combination HR1100-a, Vista and PowerDVD also tried the Advisor from Cyberlink? It should determine the "missing link", why it doens't play a movie.
post #60 of 61
So does the Drive just not play movies or does it not show anything on the HD DVD if you view it from My Computer? Can you extract files from the HD DVD disk with this drive?
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