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post #61 of 111
9/19/06 at 12:40pm
Quote "I just can't imagine enjoying a RW concert as much as I enjoyed PF without him."

I've seen PF without RW and I've seen RW and I say they are pretty different. RW is the only one who will play anything from Animals which is a recording that I love. RW also seems to stay closer to the message of PF's later recordings. He connects in a different way to the crowd.

I think you should try it. Get a tic to his current tour,.. you may be pleasently surprized.

-Brian
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post #62 of 111
9/19/06 at 5:07pm
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Agreed, Brian, Waters concerts are a group-mind-meld experience...
I feel strongly that they are superior to anything from "Floyd II" or Gilmour.

I also think Water's solo albums are comparable to Classic Floyd albums, his writing got even better if anything:

"In truck stops and hamburger joints
In Cadillac limousines
In the company of has-beens
In bent-backs in sleeping forms
On pavement steps
In libraries and railway stations
In books and banks
In the pages of history
In suicidal cavalry attacks
I recognise...
myself in every stranger's eyes

And in wheelchairs by monuments
Under tube trains in commuter accidents
In council care and county courts
At Easter fairs in sea-side resorts
In drawing rooms and city morgues
In award winning photographs
of life rafts in the China seas
In transit camps, under arc lamps
On loading ramps
In faces blurred by rubber stamps
I recognise...
myself in every stranger's eyes

And now from where I stand
upon this hill I plundered from the pool
I look around, I search the skies
I shade my eyes, so nearly blind
and I see signs of half remembered days
I hear bells that chime in strange familiar ways
I recognise...
the hope you kindle in your eyes"

- Every Strangers Eyes, Roger Waters
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post #63 of 111
9/20/06 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by happystick View Post

I remember a Gilmour interview where he said Floyd was a balance of Water's "down" lyrics with "up, energenic" music. He didnt think Final Cut made the grade musically. I also seem to recall that the songs on Final Cut were part of The Wall but were trimmed off. Nevertheless, its my 2nd or 3rd favorite Floyd album

The Final Cut was entirely composed by Waters which created friction between Waters and Gilmour. I understand Gilmour's POV, but have to agree that The Final Cut was one of PF's best works.

It took the widely disperate PF sound, codified and refined it. To that end, it really worked being a very satisfying and complete final offering/statement/ whatever.
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post #64 of 111
9/20/06 at 7:56am
To me,

Roger is a legend. And so is David Gilmour and for that matter pretty much the whole band.

DG may not be everybody's favorite musician but the music and his contributions to it are a big part of what made the latter PF recording true endure-ing works of art.

-Brian
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post #65 of 111
9/20/06 at 9:43am
The last time I saw RW live was back in '77 in Oakland/Alameda...."Animals" was a lot of fun live! Lots of Raving and Drooling going on for sure!! As much as I love PF, I am on the DG side of the fence. Both, to me are legends, RW is just a little too dark and depressing for me for the long term. I have a bunch of his albums and even a couple of DVDs but I would rather see DG or PF. I have been lucky enough to see PF 7 times, by far the best shows I have ever seen. I even still have the ticket stubbs, and will gladly see DG and the boys any chance I get...but Roger is a different story. For you young ones out there, raving and drooling was the working title for animals before it was animals....For those that are going to the show, have a great time!!!
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post #66 of 111
9/20/06 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by HTCrazy View Post

The Final Cut was entirely composed by Waters which created friction between Waters and Gilmour. I understand Gilmour's POV, but have to agree that The Final Cut was one of PF's best works.

It took the widely disperate PF sound, codified and refined it. To that end, it really worked being a very satisfying and complete final offering/statement/ whatever.

The Final Cut is almost unknown outside of hard core PF fans, so history seems to be siding against it. But I agree, its one of my favorites.

This was the album that Roger decided to start "playing different tunes", and I often compare this album to Lennon's 1970 solo masterpiece,"Plastic Ono Band" which was essentially Lennon with the wall torn down, revealing every nuance of his precious voice, and deep wonderful emotions.
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post #67 of 111
9/21/06 at 1:15am
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Originally Posted by ravingndrooling View Post

The last time I saw RW live was back in '77 in Oakland/Alameda...."Animals" was a lot of fun live! Lots of Raving and Drooling going on for sure!! As much as I love PF, I am on the DG side of the fence. Both, to me are legends, RW is just a little too dark and depressing for me for the long term. I have a bunch of his albums and even a couple of DVDs but I would rather see DG or PF. I have been lucky enough to see PF 7 times, by far the best shows I have ever seen. I even still have the ticket stubbs, and will gladly see DG and the boys any chance I get...but Roger is a different story. For you young ones out there, raving and drooling was the working title for animals before it was animals....For those that are going to the show, have a great time!!!

The only time I saw PF with Waters was on the "Animals" tour (at Soldier Field).

Easily the best concert I've ever seen.
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post #68 of 111
9/21/06 at 9:36am
I saw "Pink Floyd" during the Delicate Sound of Thunder tour and now I'll be seeing Roger Waters...the circle is now complete.
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post #69 of 111
9/21/06 at 12:35pm
I recently witnessed RW's Dark Side of the Moon show in Michigan. Let me say that I've been a Floyd fan since my first paycheck was spent on a double-cassette of The Wall. Since that first purchase I have devotely followed the band, but not so much Mr. Waters.

I have had the pleasure of a couple live Gilmour Floyd shows and was simply blown away. Their stage, lighting, and sound seemlessly combine and embrace you. The show is like nothing you have ever experienced and sets the standard for all others to approach (but never quite meet).

RW's show was at that same level. The first hour was dedicated to Floyd songs from incarnation through KAOS (yes, KAOS was RW only). And, this included a couple little ditties from Final Cut.

Then a brief 15 minute break.

Then, as far as I'm concerned, history. RW played, without pause, the entire Dark Side album to perfection. PERFECTION. Great Gig was a trip, leaving me breathless, and stole the show.

Then, the obligatory pause before the encore.

A couple of songs including Comfortably Numb. Voila, history. Perfection. Best money I have ever spent on a concert.
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post #70 of 111
9/21/06 at 1:13pm
Thanks for the review, ConversionDave. My wife is still giving me dirty looks for the price I paid for those main floor seats!
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post #71 of 111
9/22/06 at 12:46am
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Originally Posted by Malcolm_B View Post

I saw "Pink Floyd" during the Delicate Sound of Thunder tour and now I'll be seeing Roger Waters...the circle is now complete.

That was the only other time I saw Floyd. Unfortunately, it was totally ruined by terrible acoustics in the venue (Rosemont Horizon - now the Allstate Arena), and playing WAY too loud for the conditions on top of that. Just one, huge garbled, muffled, deafening ball of noise so bad that you couldn't even make out the beat to the songs, and in some cases, could barely even tell which songs were being played.

In contrast to the "Animals" tour concert, it may very well have been the WORST concert experience I ever had.
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post #72 of 111
9/22/06 at 5:29am
Gotta hate when you get the acoutical problems+too loud combo.

-Brian
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post #73 of 111
9/30/06 at 10:46pm
We just got home from the show, and what a show it was. I was not overly excited about going but it was much better than I had anticipated. He had the floating pig that had IMPEACH BUSH and all sorts of things written on it and they let it fly off ( show was outdoors)

He ended up doing most of The Wall as well as all of Dark Side, a new song of his and some other assorted songs. Total show time was right at 3 hours and I was ready for more. It was by far the best sounding outside show I have ever attended. It sounded like it was being played in surround sound. I am not sure how that was accomplished, but it was. I hope this tour was recorded as I would enjoy it on dvd. We have his other concert on dvd and it was good too.

I got to talking to the gentleman sitting next to me and he said that he has recently heard an interview with Peter Gabriel and he mentioned a Genesis reunion,there have been rumors of this for years but for one of the band members to say it might actually mean something?
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post #74 of 111
10/1/06 at 10:00am
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Chadci, Pink Floyd has had surround sound at their shows since probably 1969

This tour supposedly is in Quadrophonic
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post #75 of 111
10/1/06 at 11:48am
The Camden, NJ was more than Quad. In the rear there was at least L, R and C.

Chadci - didn't you see speakers behind you?

Ed
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post #76 of 111
10/1/06 at 4:50pm
ekb, the venue the concert is at is 2 parts, there is the covered seating and your right, there were speakers in the front and back but past the ceiling is lawn seating, thats where we were. Behind us there is nothing more than a wooden privacy fence. I lost my glasses last weekend so I could not see which direction the speakers in the back were facing, I had just assumed they were to provide us with sound.

It was the most unique sounding ( channel wise) concert I have ever attended. It was probably also the most clear and precise, even being out in the lawn with 20,000 other people. I was able to understand every word wether spoken, sung or just during introductions.
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post #77 of 111
10/1/06 at 8:26pm
Chadci - where was this?

Ed
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post #78 of 111
10/2/06 at 5:06am
Verizon Wireless Music Center in Noblesville ( near Indianapolis) Indiana. It used to be called Deer Creek.

http://www.livenation.com/venue/getVenue/venueId/338/
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post #79 of 111
10/2/06 at 5:32am
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Originally Posted by ravingndrooling View Post

For you young ones out there, raving and drooling was the working title for animals before it was animals....For those that are going to the show, have a great time!!!


But the real question is: did you fall on his neck with a screammm?
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post #80 of 111
10/2/06 at 9:37am
10 days to go...can't wait!
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post #81 of 111
10/2/06 at 4:19pm
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Im going on Thursday, Hollywood Bowl. ....

Nick Mason said they may do the DVD there!
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post #82 of 111
10/2/06 at 5:39pm
Johnr, I was wondering if maybe they were doing takes for a dvd when we saw them, the photography was not standard video work that you would see on a big screen at a concert, it was more like you might expect to see on a dvd I even mentioned that to my wife. Maybe its going to be a little here and alittle there and a little more somewhere else like one of the 2 Peter Gabriel dvds I have ( there other one is all in the same place... I think)
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post #83 of 111
10/2/06 at 7:23pm
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As a huge Concert DVD fan, all I can say is, God I hope not.

A concert DVD should be the band playing one town, and how that town reacts. Now from a practical point of view, I understand that it can help to tape 2 nites, so that they can substitute a glitch from one nite, with good tape from the other nite, but anything beyond that and it becomes a concert simulation.
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post #84 of 111
10/3/06 at 9:26am
So then, they should do it on the last night of the current tour...here in Seattle!
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post #85 of 111
10/3/06 at 12:58pm
It is tonight, for me, here in Phoenix, and I am really excited.
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post #86 of 111
10/3/06 at 2:36pm
I'm going Sunday at the Hollywood Bowl. Can't wait....I've heard DSOTM will be played in it's entirety.
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post #87 of 111
10/4/06 at 4:11am
I will probably have a hard time getting tickets for this at any reasonable price.....but I am going to catch The Who soon.....and no....I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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post #88 of 111
10/4/06 at 7:02am
Great show last night. I have no complaints about the performance, as it was top notch. The band sounded great, I was prepared for the political stuff, so I didn't let it bother me, even enjoyed the Pig.

The venue, on the other hand......... what a hideous place. I have seen my last concert at the Cricket Pavillion.
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post #89 of 111
10/4/06 at 4:37pm
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I honestly think Roger is trying to re-unite Pink floyd ...
Look at what he wrote on a recent press release in Isreal:




"A few weeks ago I watched again Martin Scorsese's film which
documented the last concert by The Band and I was inspired to
write a few words i see fitting:



The Last Waltz
I just want that thing
When voices join in harmony
And in that fleeting moment,
Meaning coalesces on the ear,
All dark, dissolving, clouds the alleyways no more
And fresh bread scent of home pervades the air

No sandal soles
In dust of broken homes
Nor callused toes peep bloody from the garment hem,
And all the big parades
And shock and awe
And swagger on the carrier decks and medals
Jangle helpless in the face of what is fair

I just want that thing
When friends draw in, some living some begone,
Some brittle, none forgotten
All beloved everyone.

Then dash the glass into the fire
Then well up unashamed my heart
Beyond the reach of fear
Of faith, blind, bigoted and drear

And then across the great divide
Rise men and women unafraid
To dash in loss their bracelets at the wall,
And hearing them
Hope holds me in its thrall.

I just want that thing
When empathy prevails
When man evolves beyond the crass
And reason comes of age
When dogma, cant, and witchcraft
All are banished to the past
When voices join in harmony at last.
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post #90 of 111
10/5/06 at 9:00am
It all comes down to David, and I don't see that happening...
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