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post #31 of 227
A few minor additions to the good/bad list.

Good:
I am over 30 near 2-hour recordings with little problems other than a balking 4-way amplifier between my new Dish VIP622 and the DRC8060N. Some menus were tearing. Re-cabled and it seems to work, today.

Bad:
You have to enter the disk name, the title name, and the title snapshot from different menus. That means you can have multiple titles and still a disk name, good I guess. I have not checked which is displayed on the other recorder and players.
Well, you don't have to do enter all 3, if you want New DVD+R, date and time but sometimes the current show or the following, and the first frame, maybe.
Had one hang up that required pulling the plug.
It does not allow access to disc menus until it gets a recording. I thought it did before.
I would like to not enter the title into its index where I had to make it in 2 parts.
Just remember to change to commercial skip before recording. I missed on one.

-Ken
post #32 of 227
Does the RCA DRC8052N at Wal-Mart have the "Commercial Advance" system?

"Commercial Advance" is a system that automatically marks off the commercials & then on playback skips over them.

I don't want to confuse anyone because this is not where you mark the commercials off yourself & then they are hidden on playback or when playing back a dvd you use a "Commercial Skip" button to fast forward through the commercials.

The "Commercial Advance" system is a truely automatic system where you do nothing except maybe to it "ON" or "OFF" in a menu & nothing else & the commercials are marked & skipped automatically on playback.
post #33 of 227
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Originally Posted by Bill1313 View Post

Does the RCA DRC8052N at Wal-Mart have the "Commercial Advance" system?

"Commercial Advance" is a system that automatically marks off the commercials & then on playback skips over them.

I don't want to confuse anyone because this is not where you mark the commercials off yourself & then they are hidden on playback or when playing back a dvd you use a "Commercial Skip" button to fast forward through the commercials.

The "Commercial Advance" system is a truely automatic system where you do nothing except maybe to it "ON" or "OFF" in a menu & nothing else & the commercials are marked & skipped automatically on playback.

Thats what I keep asking-- What on earth is the difference between the 8060N and the 8052N ??? The RCA website is useless in answering this. The 8060N does have that Commercial Advance feature and it worked well in the review from either Perfect Vision or Home Theater that I read in ~ March issue. But RCA's website says the 8052N has this Foul Language Filter thingie which would be nice in watching PG-13 and even some PG movies with the 6 y/o child. So the question is whether the 8052N also has the Commercial Advance feature.
post #34 of 227
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Originally Posted by Chris Ruhl View Post

I don't have an HDMI cable yet, so I am running from my Dish Network 811 box (via S-video) to the RCA, and from there to my 37"LCD via component. I'm not real overly crazy about the signal that is sent via S-video, but I don't imagine there is anything else I can do. The image over component is a bit better than the Polaroid was (over component). I am going to connect this via HDMI as soon as my shipment from monoprice comes in.


Ok, now I'm connected via HDMI. I have to say that improved the image quality of SD coming through the DVDR incredibly. Before I was hooked up to my LCD via component, and the SD image was very poor. (However, the recordings I made looked fine on a standard CRT.) Now the image on my LCD via HDMI is very good and I see very little to no degredation in the signal compared to the standard SD signal on HDTV.
post #35 of 227
Don't know where this post went last night but will try again. I called RCA to get info on difference between 8052N and 8060N. The rep on the phone had no earthly idea and I told him the 8052N had the Foul Language Filter and the 8060N had the Commercial Advance feature. But I wanted to know if both features were on both DVD recorders. Was put on hold for 10 minutes and the gy tells me:

8052N has the Foul Language Filter but no Commercial Advance.

8060N has the Commercial Advance but not the Foul Language feature.

He didn't sound real confident in this and said he couldn't find any other differences. Maybe someone who has bought either of these units can confirm or refute this.

I would like both features. The Foul Language Filter would be nice in watching PG 13 movies with young kids where an occasional burst of profanity occurs. But the Commercial Advance feature automatically skips commercials when recording so this is usefull also.
post #36 of 227
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Originally Posted by TNVOL View Post

I called RCA to get info on difference between 8052N and 8060N..

It looks as if you may be correct on the diff. but look at this RCA webpage on the 8060N, where you can download the specs and manual. You can use the Search engine on that page to get info. on the 8052N also..."from the horses mouth," so to speak.

There is a $50 diff. in price between the two on Newegg.com ($139 vs. 189), so there's at least that much diff. somewhere?
post #37 of 227
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Originally Posted by wabjxo View Post

It looks as if you may be correct on the diff. but look at this RCA webpage on the 8060N, where you can download the specs and manual. You can use the Search engine on that page to get info. on the 8052N also..."from the horses mouth," so to speak.

There is a $50 diff. in price between the two on Newegg.com ($139 vs. 189), so there's at least that much diff. somewhere?


Can you get any info on the 8052N ???

On RCA's web site I can download the PDF for the 8060N and I do not see the Foul Language Filer feature. But all can get on the 8052N is a basic page on RCA's website that gives only a snippet about this 8052N player. Are you finding the PDF of it also? If the 8052N had the Commercial Advance feature that the 8060N has then I would buy it today!
post #38 of 227
post #39 of 227
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Originally Posted by wabjxo View Post

Here's the best info. available.

That stil doesn't really give the features of the 8052N like Foul Language Filter or Commercial Advance nor does it distinguish it from the 8060N.

Does anyone have either of these two to tell us some details?

The RCA number to talk to a human is 800-311-9263. I might try again and see if I can get someone else who can do a really good breakdown on the differences between the 8060N and the 8052N. The 8060N is about $35 more expensive everywhere I look.
post #40 of 227
TNVOL, If you call RCA ask where you can download the Owners Manual for the 8052N then maybe you'll be able to tell the difference.

You could even ask them to mail you a DVD Recorder Catalog if there still having them made?

The older RCA Catalog's were great for breaking down exactly what features were available on models.
post #41 of 227
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Originally Posted by Bill1313 View Post

TNVOL, If you call RCA ask where you can download the Owners Manual for the 8052N then maybe you'll be able to tell the difference.

You could even ask them to mail you a DVD Recorder Catalog if there still having them made?

The older RCA Catalog's were great for breaking down exactly what features were available on models.

I will try that. I did see a review recently in Sound and Vision magazine which gave the Commercial Advance feature some kudo's for working well. Here is the web link to that article: http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...&page_number=4

What I would like to hear is whether the Foul Language Filter on the 8052N works well. If so then it might fit my and some others needs. I have a 6 y/o and it is amazing how many PG-13 and PG movies are just fine for 98%o f the movie but then out of the blue there is a stream of GD's spit out that I would just assume the 6y/o didn't hear. Batman Begins and The Fantastic 4 are two movies that come to mind that did this.

Of course the best thing would be for the 8052N to have BOTH features above. I am fairly certain the 8060N only has the Commercial Advance since I have seen the review and also can download its user manual from the RCA site.
post #42 of 227
TNVOL,
I haven't tried the TV Guardian feature on my 8052, but I do have experience using this on a different DVD player (I think it was a Sylvania). While the feature worked reasonably well for movies already in the database, it only came with a trial and the software built into the player. To use the feature long-term, you had t pay a monthly fee (which I think is now a one-time fee). You can get more info here: http://tvguardian.com/gshell.php
post #43 of 227
I bought mine today... In fact i did not notice the model # as i got mixed up with 8060N being offered for the same price in SAMS CLUB but its available online only for the same price as the 8052N (Walmart Exlcusive)

But 8060N can record on DualLayer Discs.... Check out page 2 in this Spec sheet from RCA

http://www.rcaaudiovideo.com/NR/rdon...0/DRC8060N.pdf

Just in case anyone is interested to get one from Sams Club here is the link

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/nav...=5&item=330696

This model is only available online...
post #44 of 227
For those of you who have the RCA 8060N do you ever have problems where it will not allow you to watch a comercial disk complaining about "This Player is incompatible with the region markings of this disk (blue screen)" . This is on a disk that is clearly marked region 1. I usually rent disks from netflix and do not have problems but this is the second time I came up on a disk that is setting off this error. What gives? I'm connected via HDMi if that makes a difference or not.
Now I'm leaning toward replacing this with the 8052n since that model has same basic features but also records on to DVD - RW . Also I'm not to hapy with the way the unit heats up even when its in stand by. Does the new units have this problem?
post #45 of 227
I just ordered the 8052N instead of the 8060N. Just thought the Foul Language Filter would be better for me (with a 6 y/o child) than the Commercial Advance the 8060N has. I am still holding out a smidgen of hope that the 8052N has this feature but the RCA site has virtually NO details on the 8052N. No manual and no specs on their web site.
post #46 of 227
ok update to my post above. Is the 8060n region free out of the factory? I got a region error on a region one disk by paramont (failure to launch title). after reading on web I read somewhere that paramount has a higher level of security on their new disks that prevents play in non region specific players. so this could explain my freak error. any one else?
post #47 of 227
TNVOL,
I looked through my 8052n's manual the other day for you and couldn't find any mention of commercial advance; however I couldn't find any info on how to turn on the TV Guardian feature even though the website says it has this feature.

gwave,
The 8052 doesn't get overly hot. This is something that I am always worried about with electronics (past experiences), so I do the touch test several times after buying and installing a new device.
post #48 of 227
I purchased a 8052N last week. Everything is good until I notice that when I watch the TV from the DVD recorder, the video and audio is out of sync. The video will be 1 or 2 seconds delay. When I record the TV and play it back, the video will be fine. Same problem when I tried the input signal from AV1 and DV connection. Anyone have this problem? I post the problem on RCA website support page 3 days ago. Haven't get any answer yet.
post #49 of 227
Is it my unit or what?

The tuner in the 8052N is not that great. i have a digital splitter from Cablevision and the STB does a good job of the regular analog channels but the RCA gave me crummy images.

any ideas>
post #50 of 227
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Originally Posted by tom1928 View Post

I purchased a 8052N last week. Everything is good until I notice that when I watch the TV from the DVD recorder, the video and audio is out of sync. The video will be 1 or 2 seconds delay. When I record the TV and play it back, the video will be fine. Same problem when I tried the input signal from AV1 and DV connection. Anyone have this problem? I post the problem on RCA website support page 3 days ago. Haven't get any answer yet.


I have noticed this problem as well, but only when I am upconverting incoming SD analog audio/video from whatever source to 720p via the HDMI output. If I "upconvert" to 480p or 1080i, the problem seems to go away.

Also, (this may have been asked before...), does anyone know what the max "resolution" output by the component video jacks? 480p? more?

Thanks,
Fuzz
post #51 of 227
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Originally Posted by mcamden View Post

TNVOL,
I looked through my 8052n's manual the other day for you and couldn't find any mention of commercial advance; however I couldn't find any info on how to turn on the TV Guardian feature even though the website says it has this feature.

gwave,
The 8052 doesn't get overly hot. This is something that I am always worried about with electronics (past experiences), so I do the touch test several times after buying and installing a new device.


I went ahead and bought the 8052N over the 8060N because I valued the TV Guardian feature more than Commercial Advance with a 6 y/o watching some PG and occasional PG-13 movies. I went ahead and ordered from Wally World web site and got the unit in yesterday. About midnight last night I open the box and look at the Owners Manual. I looked and looked and looked but not one single word about this TV Guardian feature! So does this 8052N have the TV Guardian Foul Language Filter or not???

The RCA web site says precious little about the 8052N but what little it does say is that it has TV Guardian. But the owners manual says nothing. Will try to hook it up this weekend and see but can anyone confirm if this feature is there or not?
post #52 of 227
I would say to take a look in the Menu System because I would think there must be some way to turn it "ON" or "OFF" because I doubt it would be just set to "ON" all the time.

But it is hard to believe that the Owners Manual has nothing on it.

If you can't find anything about it I would call Wal-Mart & see what they have to say.
post #53 of 227
The one thing I like about the 8060N is that the actual burner can be swapped for any standard size computer optical drive - I read this in some comments made about this model in Videohelp. I would swap the existing burner for an NEC (I have always found these very flexible as far as media brands) and see what happens! Maybe it will increase the number of recordable formats.
I was originally looking for a DVD recorder with VCR Plus+ (Philips 615). I haven't used this feature for many years and hopefully it has improved. The 8060N doesn't have this. Do you think it should be a deciding factor?
One feature I do like is the USB in port. I recently tried out the Philips 5960 with this port connected to a hard drive and it was very useful!
One more confusing statement is about recording Dual Layer disks. Newegg.com lists this as a recordable format but I read through the PDF manual and couldn't see any mention of them. Newegg.com are promoting the 8060N this weekend with free shipping and the $30 rebate so I guess I will to decide very soon....Philips or RCA? Thanks for any comments.
post #54 of 227
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Originally Posted by Squeasel View Post

One more confusing statement is about recording Dual Layer disks. Newegg.com lists this as a recordable format but I read through the PDF manual and couldn't see any mention of them.

The Pioneer 53x/63x series DVRs can record on DL discs but there is no mention of that in its manual either. If you see a reliable source that says it does record DL, you're probably OK. (The DL ability was only mentioned in a CNET review for the Pio.)
post #55 of 227
Squeasel, According to the 2nd page of the official RCA spec sheet (http://www.rcaaudiovideo.com/NR/rdon...0/DRC8060N.pdf), the 8060n does support DVD+R Dual Layer.

TNVOL,
After you had asked about TV Guardinan, I looked through my 8052N's manual and couldn't find any reference to it. I also checked through the menus last night after I finalized a disk, and I couldn't find any way to turn it on or off. You may want to call RCA.
post #56 of 227
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Originally Posted by mcamden View Post

Squeasel, According to the 2nd page of the official RCA spec sheet (http://www.rcaaudiovideo.com/NR/rdon...0/DRC8060N.pdf), the 8060n does support DVD+R Dual Layer.

TNVOL,
After you had asked about TV Guardinan, I looked through my 8052N's manual and couldn't find any reference to it. I also checked through the menus last night after I finalized a disk, and I couldn't find any way to turn it on or off. You may want to call RCA.

Well, if you can't find it in the menu list on the actual recorder then I am not sure I want to go to the trouble of hooking mine up. That is the main reason I got it. The RCA web site says it has the TV Guardian feature. But I went, last night, to TV Guardians web site and they list RCA as a user of their product but I did not see the 8052N listed as a unit that has this feature. I know its not in the Owners Manual and if it is actually present then you should be able to turn it on and off via the Menu's setup. So if you can't find it then its likely not there. I think Wally World is going to get a return product. Here is the RCA # to talk to a human in India (800-311-9263). Last time I tried to do this I was trying to get the difference between the 8052N and the 8060N. The rep had no clue and came back about 10 minutes later and said the 8052N had the TV Guardian feature and the 8060N had the Commercial Advance feature. What gives?
post #57 of 227
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Originally Posted by mcamden View Post

Squeasel, According to the 2nd page of the official RCA spec sheet (http://www.rcaaudiovideo.com/NR/rdon...0/DRC8060N.pdf), the 8060n does support DVD+R Dual Layer.

TNVOL,
After you had asked about TV Guardinan, I looked through my 8052N's manual and couldn't find any reference to it. I also checked through the menus last night after I finalized a disk, and I couldn't find any way to turn it on or off. You may want to call RCA.

I went ahead and hooked mine up to see if I could simply find ANY indication that the TV guardian feature is present. I found NO indication in the setup menus and there is not one word in the Owners manual on it. Only way to know for sure is to go to a specific spot on a DVD where you know there is cursing and see if it is "built in" and "on" all the time. But if that is the case then I am not sure I want the feature. If it is there it needs to be able to be turned off for adult watching.

So I then called RCA and the rep could just read off the Web site promo. I told her the deal and she said she would go check on it and get back to me in a day or two. I also emailed TV Guardian and asked if they could check to see if the 8052N had this feature.
post #58 of 227
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Originally Posted by mcamden View Post

Squeasel, According to the 2nd page of the official RCA spec sheet (http://www.rcaaudiovideo.com/NR/rdon...0/DRC8060N.pdf), the 8060n does support DVD+R Dual Layer.

Mcamden, thank you for the link. I checked the 68 page PDF 'User Guide' using the Adobe reader search option and it didn't come up with anything so I can only assume that this guide was written many moons before the manufacturer said "lets try a dual layer disk just in case in works"!
After carrying out way too much research I have decided on one thing - buy the DVD recorder from a retail outlet with a good/easy return policy. I never realized just how many people had to return their recorders because they were faulty etc. Newegg.com may have a good price but they never want to see it again once it is out of the door! So I think it will have to be Walmart and maybe Target if they allow 90 days. Are there any other retailers anyone can recommend? Thanks.
post #59 of 227
I sawthis recorder at Walmart. Looked kind of cheep on the outside. I'm starting to lean toward the Samsung DVD-R135. Has the same features as the RCA but looks more solid plus Samsung has a better rep. Any one see any good reviews on the Samsung?
post #60 of 227
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Originally Posted by TNVOL View Post

I went ahead and hooked mine up to see if I could simply find ANY indication that the TV guardian feature is present. I found NO indication in the setup menus and there is not one word in the Owners manual on it. Only way to know for sure is to go to a specific spot on a DVD where you know there is cursing and see if it is "built in" and "on" all the time. But if that is the case then I am not sure I want the feature. If it is there it needs to be able to be turned off for adult watching.

So I then called RCA and the rep could just read off the Web site promo. I told her the deal and she said she would go check on it and get back to me in a day or two. I also emailed TV Guardian and asked if they could check to see if the 8052N had this feature.

Here's a web page that lists several RCAs and their features. The 8052N is the fifth one down. The four units above the 8052N all list TV Guardian, but no mention of it for the 8052N.

I think it's very possible it doesn't have the TV Guardian.

I did see two separate TV Guardian boxes for one-time fee of $59 and $69. That might be a better solution since you can use it with any TV, VCR or recorder in your house...or place it in-line to serve multiple devices!

Apparently, for it to work, a program must broadcast the Closed Caption (CC) audio channel, which is what it reads to blank out the words you don't want to be heard.
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