JVC xxFx97 1080 D-ILAs' (soon to be) Owners Thread

I wonder if the FH97 model is the new Pro model?

I know there was some talk in the previous thread of the FN series accepting 1080P input. I found this CNET article that says that these newest model will NOT accept 1080P input.


One thing that remains the same, however, is that none of the new JVC LCoS sets can accept 1080p sources via HDMI.

The 1080p lineup includes the 56-inch HD-56FN97 ($3,499 street), the 61-inch HD-61FN97 ($3,799), and the 70-inch HD-70FN97 ($5,499).

http://www.cnet.com/4831-11405_1-641...ml?tag=ltstimg

I was hoping 1080P-in was there... but, the 56FN97 is the model I'm shooting for... even without the 1080P input. Comments?

JD


UPDATE: I misread misterjensen's post... This has already been refuted by someone inside JVC. For now, it appears that these sets will have 1080P input.

Add me to this group. I just picked up a 56G786 at BB for 2k with the JVC stand. I've been wanting the DLIA for awhile now and finally got the deal.

I know allot about color science and this thing set to Theater Pro is right on. I haven't got my Colorfacts/Accupel combo going yet but OTB the picture is awesome. Black level is fine as is shadow detail, colors pop but are natural. I think you guys got a winner here.
enjoy

i agree the new JVC'S look awesome.i am waiting for the new 1080p's to come out.
i think JVC is my choice to replace my CRT.

You must be kidding ??? Now I am bummed no 1080p input via HDMI that's a joke. I have been looking at sets for 3 or 4 months now and was waiting for these new JVC sets to be released. From the discerption there is really no difference between the 96 and the 97 models. Slightly different cabinet, dynamic auto iris and a new light engine. If thats the truth I just might be back on the SXRD ( ears and all ) band wagon. Brian from Tapeworks texas also said that JVC would not be shipping the 97's for approx 3 months.

"discerption there is really no difference between the 96 and the 97 models. Slightly different cabinet, dynamic auto iris and a new light engine"


Are you kidding me, adding a dynamic iris is 20 times more important than having 1080p inputs.

The new 1080P JVC's WILL have 1080P inputs; I got the information directly from the development / marketing department at JVC (NOT customer service).

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...28#post7450028

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=662027

Your right, the dynamic auto iris will make a difference in the sets ability to produce deeper blacks. I belive the 05 SXRD has some type of auto iris, maybe thats why it is the king as far as black level detail. Is the new tuner really a upgrade ?? And don't forget about those gold plated connectors LOL!!! I wish the sets were coming out before the end of the summer, can't wait 5 months.

On the Tapeworks Texas website there is a difference of about $125.00 between the FN and the FH, but I couldn't see what features the FH has that make it an upgrade. Could someone point that out to me? Thank You for any help.

the FH97 MODELS HAVE

Advantages vs the FN97
RS-232C Control
Gold RCA Terminals
New Thin Frame Black Cabinet (56 & 61)*
*70 has black cabinet/aluminum center panel.

Any further news regarding the FN97 or FH97 ? ? ? Somewhere within the past couple of weeks I read a post by someone who had seen the products in Las Vegas, and one of the units had a new type of screen that he said looked way better in terms of SSE reduction. Are the 97's going to have a better screen, with reduced SSE?

I spoke to my local dealer yesterday. Surprisingly, though he is usually fairly knowledgable about the RPTV's and the various models, he did not even know about the Fx97 models. I had to point out the online pictures and specs to him.

He then proceeded to call his two largest distributors on the East Coast who both denied any knowledge of these new models. Once I pointed him out to texastapeworks, he called the distributor again.

At this point, his distributor gave him some more info. Apparently, the distributor had just recently had a meeting with the Chief Engineer at JVC and had been told that the 70" sets would come out in August (not June/July). And that the only difference between the FN and FH was the gold plated plugs.

So at this point, I am really struggling with whether to go with R1U model or wait the extra 3 (or maybe more) months for the FH97. If these TVs are going to be out soon, how come there is no Powerbuy on it yet? Is texastapeworks just as reliable? Should I just go ahead and pre-order or should I wait for a Powerbuy announcement?

A salesperson at Texas Tapeworks said the the new FH97 units would be delayed until Aug/Sept in order for the sets to incorporate 1080p inputs.

I would LOVE to see info on the SSE of the coming 61FN97 and 70FN97.
reason being I now have the 56FH96 and the SSE is still quite bothersome to me. I try to look past it but it really distracts me.
A change in actual screen and reduction or elimination of SSE on the new models will without doubt sell me on an upgrade. So if anyone has any info on this I'd VERY MUCH appreciate it. thanks

on a somewhat interesting side note I used prior to the 56FH a 61Z786 and had NO noticeable SSE. maybe thats why it bothers me so much on the 56FH now. and even wonder if the screen size itself may play a role in perceived SSE on a set?
k i'm done now

I saw a 46in at NAB with a DNP screen on it (no SSE) but it was one of the pro models. I asked the guy in the booth if any other JVC models this year were going to have the DNP screens and he said maybe next year.
I saw the same screen a CES back in Jan in the DNP booth with an eLcos light engine and it was equally impressive. DNP is a Taiwanese company (I think, I have their literature at work) and they say several RPTV companies have contracts with them now. The screen is very impressive.

Oh Man, Thanks for coming to my rescue Ptwat,

Is there any chance that a DNP screen could be a retrofit item? Is it even possible to replace the screen on something like the FH96? Would it be prohibitively expensive?

I don't know for sure but I doubt it. The DNP people were telling me that their screen has a gain of about 1 and the other screens have a gain of about 2. Therefore the percieved brightness would be less and maybe a brighter bulb is required ( I am guessing). The built in screen lens structure is different too so I don't know if that requires some lens adjustment in the light engine. Maybe there is a screen expert on the forum that could comment but I believe the typical screen has a "point structure" that is randomized possibly giving the SSE effect. The DNP has a horizontal and/or vertical structure (if my memory serves frrom 5 months back) minimizing the SSE. I could not see any though and the screen has natural looking sharpness for lack of better description.

It makes for a very nice image.

HD61FN97 is in the computer at Best Buy, scheduled for mid June arrival . I saw it on the computer screen there today, $ 3299.00.

JVC is not listed as an exhibitor at the Home Entertainment Show starting tomorrow in LA. See here. I was hoping that they would provide more detailed info about the FN97 sets.

I'm sure Sony, however, will be displaying their new SXRD's. I'm interested to see if Sony will have a 70 incher. Should be interesting.

Hahaha beat ya to it in another thread.Nah just kidding.Hope the date we have is close.

Yeh on the 05 SXRD you can adjust the Iris Level and Advanced Iris.Even in the A10 Sonys;i think thats why they have a better picture than the A20's.

thanks for the great info.
on this quoted text , can you clarify 'next year' ? is that to mean the new **FN97's due this month? or an unknown future model? thx as I'm wanting to trade-up to the newer model and no SSE or at least reduced SSE would seal the deal for me.

Can anyone add to the dates we might see these new 97 series sets ?? I have been reading on the SXRD 2006 post and the NON XBR model ( KDS-60A2000 ) does not seem to but out until the end of the summer and its got a 4,500 MSRP yikes. This new JCV 97 series is looking better and better all the time. Here's hopping to see some new info released soon !!!

He sounded like he meant the models coming out next year- not the ones coming out this year. He did not mention any models numbers and I did not ask but the booth was one for the "professional" displays. If the FN had the screen it would seal the deal for me but I am not optimistic.
The DNP guy at CES said that "several" manufacturers had set up contracts to do business and had their screens in their labs. I specifically asked about JVC because I was looking at buying the pro version this year and he said JVC was one of the ones looking at the screen. He claimed that DNP could provide screens this year but did not seem too hopeful they would be used this year.
The RPTV they had set up in their booth was a "generic" but had a light engine with eLcos panels. There used to be an eLcos thread on AVS but has long since went dead.

Has anyone seen anything new on the FN97? The things that I am reading about the SXRD are not encouraging to me at all, and so the 56"FN97 appears to be the only option to a 50" plasma for me. I wonder if JVC will be able to beat Sony to the market with these sets?!?