JVC xxFx97 1080 D-ILAs' (soon to be) Owners Thread - Page 10

Hi guys. I've never been satisfied with any hidef TV's before, and I found this set visually standing out with my "trained eye" searching (and not finding) motion artifacts on this set. I knew nothing about this set until I noticed I couldn't see any motion artifacts on it unlike every other set in the showroom floor.

IE: I can tell you from the other-way-around (not expecting this at all, but always on the lookout for it feature-wise), this is the first HDTV that I have seen that has "hit it" for me.

Do a google search on

retina blur hdtv

and click the first link to understand how hdtv's actually make a blurred image in your retina and not on the set.

I routinely hit the stores to see if any of the displays have fixed the motion artifacting problem that exists with most HDTV sets I have seen.

The fact is, and I have proved this empirically for myself as I was a huge skeptic: the blurring from motion artifacting results from a general lack of strobing (pixels always on). The blurring isn't on the screen, but in your retina. An interesting trick to help you understand this is to take a video camera, and do a video of your TV showing objects moving around on the screen where you notice blurring artifacts. Now take that (60Hz) video and display it on a CRT, and voila, NO MOTION ARTIFACTS!

This is because the blurring isn't from the content, but rather from the fact that a continuous image is being swept across your retina in periods of 16.67 milliseconds. A result of each pixel on the screen being "always on" during the frame period as opposed to instantaneously on for a CRT.

Freaky.

Anyway, you can forget the geek talk and just remember that JVC is leading the pack on dealing with motion artifacts.

What this means is that video games and computer stuff will look great when you're playing an FPS or side-scroller, it should rock instead of being a blurry mess.

I'm not saying there aren't more expensive options that don't have solutions to motion artifacting, but I just don't know about any others, and certainly not in the pricerange I'm willing to spend.

I hope this is helpful, and I hope I don't rub anyone the wrong way. Just my 2 cents after seeing one of these sets and being

ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY!!!

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- AHigh

Glad you like your set.
CRTs are not "instantaneously on". The phosphors have "persistence" that make them glow for some time after they have been excited. It is similar but not the same as pixels being "always on" (I am assuming you are saying for the frame time since they may or may not be on during the frame time).

To all owners of this JVC set. Has anyone ever experienced any issues with this JVC set similar to the green blob that has plagued Sony? I am extremely close to making a move but wanted to post this question first.

Also, I'd be interested to learn of others opinions on the bulb life of this unit. A salesperson yesterday told me that JVC guarantees their bulbs for a minimum of 2 years. But I have not had time to look into this claim.

Thanks to anyone that wants to help with a reply.

I have one of the original 52" JVC dila sets and I just had my lamp go out on me. It lasted 2 years and 3 months. After I replaced the lamp I noticed a green tint or blob in the lower left hand corner of the screen and slightly on the upper left hand corner too. It is noticeable in dark screens of shows I may be watching. I am going to call JVC about this today but was wondering if anyone else experienced this.

Does anyone know how to access the service menu on the JVCs, I'm trying to get rid of a bit of a green cast in theater mode.

Also, I can't find any difference between Theater mode and Theater Pro mode, is the inclusion of the two settings just marketing flummery or are they different somehow (when I change the settings on either one, the new settings show up on both.)

Also, too, is there any difference between the N and H models except the $200 in list price -- according to the online owner's manual and the JVC "features" site they are identical, but some reviews say the H does not accept 1080p input and the N does.

(The owners manual claims they both do.)

Rhetorical question, why can't (or won't) manufacturers tell consumers what the differences in their products are ... I might be more than happen to spend the extra $200 for an H if JVCwould just give me some reason for doing it.

Thanks

The Theater Pro button also changes the color temp to low.

The H models have a serial port and gold connectors. All of the 97 series 1080P sets accept 1080P input.

They are vague about the differences because they are generally not worth the extra money. These differences probably add less than $10.00 to the manufacturing cost of the TV and add substantially to the profit margin. Unless you need the serial port for a remote control system there is really no benefit gained from the extra expense. I'm sure many buy the FH just because it is more expensive and therefore must be better.

Thanks very much, have you tried to access the service menu on your set?

does HD56FN97 accept 1080p input?

Have read a number of evals, including I believe CNET, stating the F97 series does not have separate display setting memories for each input. THIS IS NOT TRUE.

The owners manual, downloadable for free at JVC.com, states that it does and I reverified this on my own set a few minutes ago. It also has separate color setting memories for digital and analog content for each input, but that doesn't apply to me since all my inputs are HDMI.

This may not be the right thread for this, if not please repost where it can help people make an intelligent decision about this fine set.

Also, if you don't need the audio system (personally, I can't imagine anyone with a 56-inch HD display using the built-in amps and speakers in any receiver) and don't intend to plug a computer into it (something I can't imagine doing), you might want to hunt around Costco and other Big Box stores to see if they have any of the FC97 units left .... performance-wise they are identical to the N and H, they just don't have the center channel speaker input and the PC input ... this can also be verfied by downloading the user manual which is the same for the C,N and H and details what are N and H specific features.

Anyway you can probably save 200/300 and get a free JVC stand if you can find a C.

My 61FN is having the yellow blob on white screens after 13 months.
Anyone know the cause and fix???