Polaroid DVD Recorder - Page 2

do you guys know if this model is coming to Canadian Walmart?

thx

Does the recall mean the price is going to go up to cover the costs of the re-packaging?

I have printed off the page from Wal-Mart's web site with the current price. If they try to raise it, I will complain to the store manager about "Always Lower Prices, Always" ;>)

I saw several today at Walmart. Some keys for this unit IMHO is; does it have divide and flex record function and will it do chase play? Also when I examined underneath the box ,where it had all the specs I did not see that it records to DVD-R or DVD-RW, just DVD+R and DVD+RW. I could be wrong, I was in a hurry. I did note that someone says the user manual above says it does do all four.

Thank you for the welcome end tip.

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Roberto

And you didn't buy it? Somebody buy it and report back.

On Page 46 of the user manual (Specifications): Supported recordable disc functions: DVD+R/RW , DVD-R/RW

Man, with the component in, this is tempting. I wish my Walmart had one for purchase. I may have to look again. I wish the Pioneers would hurry up and be released (good luck).....

Is this the Pioneer?

http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/produ...nomy_id=42-125

It's on a european site but that's all I could find.

If I'm not mistaken NA version will have 80Gb drive in it, there is already thread about it:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=646240

I found on the web one guy saying about Polaroid PQ to be very good, however the fun was lound...hehee..... I'm thinking about buying one too . I wonder if 80gb drive can be replaced with the bigger one.

Ok- I have some new info on this Polaroid from a very trustworthy and reliable friend here in Houston who picked one up today. It does have divide function(called split) on HDD recordings but confirmed NO flex record. And he said it definitely has component input. He also said it reminded him of past Philips HDD models - someone else on this board said this as well. Philips does license a lot of their technology to others. He said it is absolutey THE loudest DVDR he has ever experienced. He said it makes the noise from the 2005 Pioneers(which had a lot of complaints about EPG noise) seem like a mouse. He said the noise was continuous and constant even when you were doing zilch with the unit. He also said that when he bought it at Walmart it rang up "No sale allowed"(This was due to the recall). The clerk ran off with the unit ,came back and then manually overrode the register and sale complete ! I thought this was rather humorous.

PS- something that I forgot- he said he still is perplexed trying to find the right button on remote to ERASE a DVD-RW or DVD+RW(The unit did play both from other DVDRS he had.) The Manual is very confusing and arcane on this, could be the recall, Anyway more later this week. Oh also he said that on the actual unit LED screen that lights up for "S-Video Line" line was spelled Liue. I am not kidding.

I wish they would have done that for me here when I called the one store that hadn't sent back the 2 they had. I have a hdtv card, a panny e80h unit and several svhs machines but capping shows on the hd of the panny then editing later has been the easiest route for me so it's be great to get another one that doesn't cost almost 400 bucks, even if it is loud, and I bet it'll take a bigger drive, my panny wont

It may not have FR mode, but it has 2.5h and 3hr recording modes, which can be a reasonable compromise compared to Panasonic's implementation of FR, since Panasonic's FR always fills up the DVD unless you manually stop it. Of course we have to wait and see how good the recordings are at those modes.

The low price makes it very intriguing... But we have to wait for reviews and such first...

Well it sounds like some people are getting these things. Other than the obvious price difference and component in, are there any other features that this machine has that puts it above a comprable Pioneer or Panasonic unit ?

couldn't really tell from the manual, but I'd like to know if you could edit it/remove commercials from a recording on the HDD before burning it to disc

I just bought one for $140.00 from Craigslist. It absolutely has component in and out as shown on the users manual link posted on this thread and I am using both.

http://www.polaroid.com/media/com/te...2001g_fa37.pdf

I like the recorder a lot and have made great copies using SP on both HDD an on DVD-R Sony 16X disks. Works like charm and is an incredible value. Read the manual.

Tony

Tell us more! Tell us more! I think this is a unit that has a lot of interest, mainly because of the low low price.

Is it as loud as HoustonGuy's friend says it is?
Thanks

how are the editing capabilities, ie can you remove commercials from a recording on the HDD ?

On page 12 of the manual, it talks about fine tuning channel frequency. In the picture, it shows the current frequency of channel 034 as 607.30MHz. Does this "Fine Tuning" ability give an indication that this unit has a digital tuner?

So Tony, are you going to give us a review? It appears that a lot of people are waiting to hear about this model. Let's have it!

I have not used it as much as I have wanted to. Old herniated back is acting up ( injured while moving Runco 980 CRT ) I bought the pre recal Polaroid recorder, one of eight, new and in unopened box from a frustrated seller, who could not make them work and sold them all. Very unfriendly instruction manual.. It is not intuitive, The instructions manual and navigation commands menu's are worse than Joe Kane's menu's for locating anything on his discs.

The frustration reward however, is in the fabulous picture. Component in and component out in the SQ and SP mode are fantastic. The 6. 75 AVIA resolution circle and multiburst paterns have no aliasing, ringing or softness. Superior results by far, if compared to my Panny RP-91, Sony 9000ES, Yamaha 5750, Yamaha 2300, Pioneer DVD-09, Ppioneer DVD D-7400 industrial studio player, Panny E95, Panny E-80, Sony Sp S7000, Cyberhome and Yamakawa. My old interlace champ was the Panny RP-91, but has now been dethroned by the Polaroid.
The colors are also the best, with no visible hue or saturation differences using the blue filter and flashing patterns.

It will resolve blacker than black and the grey scale and gamma curve is very very good with uniform steps. There are no picture adjustments that I can find on the recorder and maybe that is the secret. Short electronic path. No Monster wires inside.

The fan is loud when on. It's off at standby. You can edit out commercials timed to 0.5 second accuracy, by viewing recorded program and segmenting it on HDD before dubbing to DVD. See Polaroid manual on their link. I am still learning about the unit and have not worked the frequency tuning.

I would be surprised if it would tune digital channels. Maybe it is for cable or multipath rejection? I will play around with the tuning and off air recording later, Primarily I record digital only off the air using a Sylvania HD tuner and feed 480i to my DVD recorder. I record 720p and 1080i using the LG HD tuner/ hard disc recorder

My Polaroid manual and remote button legend is slightly different than on the Polaroid link, although the functionality seems to be the same. My manual and instructions are so convoluted that I can see why Walmart returned the first shipments.

My home theater is configured to run all component interlaced video sources and digital audio into an Extron Matrix switcher and from there out via component to a Belkin wireless high bandwidth transmitter that sends digital high band width video with copyguard, macrovision and all that junk stripped off, with resultant higher quality to a Belkin receiver ( I think Belkin has changed all that after Sound And Vision did expose this fortunate piece of engineering ) and from there to a DVDO HD+ or Faroudja NR upconverted to 1080i and into my Runco 980 CRT projector. With 1080i I have absolutely no convergence drift, like I had with 720p and 960p.

The path is long, but the bandwidth is very high and any signal losses or distortions undetectable. with any of the evaluation discs.

Bottom line, to me it's a great value for the money and highly recommended if you can put up with some strange instructions and operating steps. Put it in a cabinet, if the fan is bothersome. Mine is a keeper and I will buy another when Walmart gets them back. If nothing else it is a great DVD player for the money. With it's hard drive recording you get icing on the fortune cookie.

Tony,

Thanks for the rundown on this unit. Many of us are waiting for them to be restocked. Do you have an indication of how well the Dolby 5.1 audio outputs work as compared to the usual 2 channel?

tonyjur, you said you have yours setup with component out. Does is upconvert to 720p/1080i over component ?

NorthJersey,

No, it does not upconvert. It outputs 480i and 480p on all its outputs, including component. I use component 480i out and upconvert to 1080i on my DVDO HD+, or 720p on my Faroudja NR. I prefer the output scalers, since I can do so much more with them, besides scaling.

It's a very good DVD player. It's a very good recorder and the component in feature and hard disc, makes it a rare combination at that price. These performance values can be measured, using AVIA.

It does have however, have a convoluted, difficult, user unfriendly operating structure and a poor remote with tiny buttons located in not the obvious places. If I have to change anything, I need a flashlight and the operating manual. I am so used to the Japanese recorders that this is very frustrating to me. But, then that may be just me. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

thanks for the info!

Tonyjur, thanks for all the feedback on this new Polaroid recorder! This sounds very promising given its price! Look forward to more of your comments!

I have one question: How do you find the other recording modes (2.5hour, 3hour, 4hour)?

I am getting spoiled by the dual-tuner Comcast DVR, so theoretically I could get two of these instead of one Pioneer/Panasonic for $400 so I can record in parallel.

I have not tried the other speeds or the 5.1 output. Will try to get to it later.

I am curious, is it just me or are the newer high tech products, with a few exeptions (i.e. Apple) getting more difficult to use with little regard to user needs? I ranted about the Polaroid recorder operating system and remote. Check out my sons new camera from Kodak, the CAMERA people. A pen based camera!!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/131590814/

Any comments?

Thanks Tony, I wonder if the fan can be replaced, also it would be kewl if we could upgrade the drive to something like 300gb . I wonder what filesystem does it uses, fat32, ntfs or some flavour of linux..... maybe it will be as simple as swaping drives...hmm... can't wait to get my hands on that puppy. One question, when you record a show off an input (i.e. composite, with dishnetwork receiver connected to it) to hdd, will it grab the tiltle of the show/movie automaticaly or will I have to edit the title manually?

TIA

Kodak, the japanese camera people, since all their digital camera design/etc is done in Japan

Kodak has been trying new things in digital cameras, so if nothing else, they deserve credit for thinking outside the (camera) box even if their initial implementations are not perfect.

The usability issue also depends on who is using the product., who is the target audience, who is the actual audience, etc, etc,.... For example DVD recorders are more confusing to the average consumer than VCRs, but for those with extensive experience in electronics they are fairly straightforward.

Is there a way to connect my sa8300hd to both my tv AND this polaroid recorder, both using component video cables ? If I run the cabling sa8300hd -> polaroid -> tv, the polaroid doesn't accept nor output HD resolutions ?

Any company make a set of component video cable(s) that splits off one on end, into a Y-cable, ie one end carries the source video, to two component video targets ?

If this existed, then I could connect the 8300hd to both tv and recorder at the same time; to send hd to the tv, use my current mode (passthrough of 720p/1080i); to send to the recorder, just set the 8300hd to output video at 480i. This way I wouldn't have to swap cables everytime I want to send something to the recorder.

My Sony directview had dvi, which has my Zenith dvd player connected to it; the 8300hd connected to one component input; the other component video input connected from a switch (xbox360 and ps2). I figure I'd send the component video output from the polaroid to this switch

If you are actually disconnecting component cables, Wal-Mart sells a "component connection box" which has component input and (3 or 4 - can't remember) component outputs for about $20. Don't know how well it works, but appears to be a video router of sorts.