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post #421 of 432
OK - thanks for the tip.

I just went through the passages in question again, and tried all the available deinterlacing options, and the moire didn't go away no matter which one I chose.

So I guess it's in the source then.

Isn't that a little... unprofessional though? Or is it hard to avoid sometimes?
post #422 of 432
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Originally Posted by John P. View Post

OK, I've just watched Mission Impossible III, PAL R2 (Norwegian).

Info screen on VP30 says input is 576i, and output is 1280x720p (1:1 native rate of my TV).

ABT102 card is set to Film Bias.

Several places on this DVD, there is moiré. First I noticed was the first shot from Rome; a brick wall on the left. Then at 45:01, there's a flight of stairs. Then a little later there's moiré on the airvents on the Lamborghini. Then later on there's moiré on the railings of a bridge.

There seems to be a strange encoding problem with all video copies of MI3. The NTSC DVD has the same issue. The HD DVD and Blu-ray do as well, though to a much lesser extent (the jitter is really only noticeable on the Vatican staircase).
post #423 of 432
Hello all

I just finished watching MI3 on my DLP front projection system and this has to be the worst DVD I have ever seen. I have seen TV on DVD that looks better than this. There is moire throughout the movie and I have also noticed jitter and even some jaggies. I am actually considering returning it or giving it away.

I have played with the settings on the VP30 (ABT102) and no improvement. I find it hard to believe that they would let something like this make it to DVD.
I found it difficult to watch this movie without looking for all the flaws in the transfer and I don't consider myself to be a videophile.

If you are thinking of buying it.....DON'T......just rent it.

There, now that I got that off of my chest I feel a whole lot better.
post #424 of 432
Hi all,

I'm curious if anyone has compared the performance of the VP30/ABT102 to the Silicon Optix ReonVX.

I'm considering an upgrade to Onkyo's TX-SR905 receiver when it's released later this year, if the ReonVX offers similar performance to my VP30/ABT102 (assuming the Reon implemented correctly), I could eliminate the DVDO solution to simplify my setup.
post #425 of 432
The ReonVX can only handle 2:2 and 3:2 cadence detection.
The ABT102 can handle any cadence.
post #426 of 432
Thanks for chiming in Josh, that's definitely helpful.
post #427 of 432
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Originally Posted by bobloblaw View Post

Hi all,

I'm curious if anyone has compared the performance of the VP30/ABT102 to the Silicon Optix ReonVX.

I'm considering an upgrade to Onkyo's TX-SR905 receiver when it's released later this year, if the ReonVX offers similar performance to my VP30/ABT102 (assuming the Reon implemented correctly), I could eliminate the DVDO solution to simplify my setup.

Maybe a bit off topic, but I have evaluated the Onkyo TX-SR875 (which has the same ReonVX software as the NR905) to the Denon 3930 which carry the Silicon Optix Realta.

The Denon has slightly fewer scaling artifacts than the Onkyo. It also keep focus during object moving and pannÃ*ng scenes little better than the Onkyo. So if ABT102 is on par or better than the Silicon Optix Realta, don't expect the ReonVX based Onkyo to perform alike.
post #428 of 432
I'm pretty sure the SO products are significantly better than the 102.

I've seen the output of an upscaled DVD being played on the Toshiba HD-AX2 (Reon VX) and it looks much better than what I have coming out of my VP30/102 combo.
post #429 of 432
My VP30 with ABT102 has firmware 1.14, and when it receives an interlaced source, I can choose only between Auto, Film bias and video modes in the deinterlacing menu, whereas 2:2 Even, 2:2 Odd, Game Mode 1 and 2 are greyed.
Does it mean that the card is defective, or not properly installed? Or is this a firmware issue?
post #430 of 432
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Originally Posted by jpnn80 View Post

My VP30 with ABT102 has firmware 1.14, and when it receives an interlaced source, I can choose only between Auto, Film bias and video modes in the deinterlacing menu, whereas 2:2 Even, 2:2 Odd, Game Mode 1 and 2 are greyed.
Does it mean that the card is defective, or not properly installed? Or is this a firmware issue?

It sounds like the card is not properly seated on the header on the main video board.
post #431 of 432

Does anyone know if the DVDO VP50 series has all the de-interlacing features of the ABT102 add on card built into the unit?  I'm assuming it does, as it does

contain game modes 1 & 2.

 

Thanks,

post #432 of 432
yes, it does.
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