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post #2791 of 4023
1/26/07 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by ISO Perfect HDTV View Post

I did a little testing it seems like Local channels and some network will fill up setting your box to output the opposite resolution that they broadcast in. 1080i channels such as CBS, NBC, WB, TNT, Discovery, HBO and Universal will fill up if you output 720p . 720p channels like ABC, Fox, ESPN and ESPN2 will fill up if you output 1080i.
HDNet & HDNet movies will fill up no matter what you output. Starz, Food Network & HGHD depends on the program regardeless of what you output. And finally Voom channels will fill up at 1080i.

mines won't fill up regardless of the settings, HDnet is fine as are a couple of others, including local HD broadcasts, they sent a "tech" same dude who installed my dish, who knows very little about video, he didn't know what 1080p was, anyway he called dishnetwork from my house and they're sending me another receiver, same model. if it doesn't work, I'm cancelling my service abd going back to my Time Warner Cable, programming sucks but there are no issues with their HD channels and the SD channels fill my whole screen in stretched mode with my TV set to normal (not fill) and cheap internet included, hmmmm...I'll see when I get the new receiver
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post #2792 of 4023
1/26/07 at 1:24pm
Does this (47) unit have fan for cooling!?
I know that 37 does not!
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post #2793 of 4023
1/26/07 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by vanart View Post

Does this (47) unit have fan for cooling!?
I know that 37 does not!

No heat. No fan.

Dana
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post #2794 of 4023
1/26/07 at 2:09pm
Too good to be true...
I just got a 37" from Bestbuy Canada.....
it has a slimmest bevel...
Cheers,
Dana you are the BEST!
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post #2795 of 4023
1/27/07 at 5:19am
NO HEAT, Leave it on for awhile and stand in front of it.
That backlight does produce heat... You can feel it nearly 2' away
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No heat. No fan.

Dana
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post #2796 of 4023
1/27/07 at 10:39am
Did anyone in canada have issues getting the firmware update for the ps3?

Will Best BUy do it for me?

THANKS!
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post #2797 of 4023
1/28/07 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by twbogus View Post

Hello Everyone,

I set up my new Westy 47" last week. I can say that for the money I am more than happy with it. I have only 1 stuck pixel on the display and have yet to attempt any of the suggested fixes. Additionally, the banding very slight. I don't see it at all when viewing video and its only slightly apparent when using the test images posted to this group. The off axis black level is not quite as good as dead center (as some have mentioned in this group)...however it is more than adequate for my tastes.

This TV/Monitor really shines when connected to my MAC...absolutely beautiful when using it as HTPC monitor or surfing the web, viewing pictures etc... I have one slight issue when driving it on DVI 2 @ 1080P with the MAC, the top 3 pixels are under the bezel and the bottom screen is shifted up 3 pixels. Has anyone else seen this? I did a quick search of the thread and didn't see any similar issues...is there a way to adjust the image position in the service menu?

More than happy with my purchase and thanks to those that contribute to the thread.

T

I've had the screen since November 15th 2006 i've been on and off the phone with Westinghouse regarding this issue and still no results i had the lvm-42w2 and never had these problems, the 42inch had other issues of its own, i decided to keep this 47inch even though it has querks purely because if has zero dead pixels which is something i wasn't able to acomplish even after 5 exchanged on the 42inch model hehe.

DVI-1 Screen is scrambled until you turn off the monitor and turn it back on

DVI-2 & HDMI Image is shifted up 3-4 pixels at pretty much any resolution (this can be noticed at mobo bios level of resolution all the way upto 1920x1080

i ran tests with numerous brands ATI to nVidia graphics cards with only the sames results

if others are having the same problems i need more cases to present to westinghouse in order to get results.
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post #2798 of 4023
1/28/07 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by Diode1 View Post

NO HEAT, Leave it on for awhile and stand in front of it.
That backlight does produce heat... You can feel it nearly 2' away

Power consumption and heat depend on backlight settings:

0% = 90 watts
50% = 180 watts
75% = 220 watts
100% = 290 watts
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post #2799 of 4023
1/28/07 at 5:54pm
Guys, I just picked up one of these last night at Best Buy while they were on sale. Talked another 10% off also. Had the salesperson hook up a HD-DVD player so I could see the HD picture. Looked nice to me so I got it.

I will be hooking up a PS3 and Toshiba A2 for high definition. Been reading the thread and hoping I dont have any problems. I ordered my HDMI for the PS3 from monoprice last week in anticipation but I see an hdmi-dvi is the only thing that works. I may have to do the PopularMechanics pull it out, then back in till a firmware upgrade.

Should I get the extended warranty. Cant beat the TV for what I paid.

What are the popular setttings?
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post #2800 of 4023
1/28/07 at 6:10pm
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Originally Posted by colleycol View Post

Guys, I just picked up one of these last night at Best Buy while they were on sale. Talked another 10% off also. Had the salesperson hook up a HD-DVD player so I could see the HD picture. Looked nice to me so I got it.

I will be hooking up a PS3 and Toshiba A2 for high definition. Been reading the thread and hoping I dont have any problems. I ordered my HDMI for the PS3 from monoprice last week in anticipation but I see an hdmi-dvi is the only thing that works. I may have to do the PopularMechanics pull it out, then back in till a firmware upgrade.

Should I get the extended warranty. Cant beat the TV for what I paid.

What are the popular setttings?

The Warranty at BB for this screen is only 249.99 and it's covered for 4yrs...i now own two of these screens and hell ya i got the warranty on them both. BB just lemoned out my 3.5yr old panasonic screen and i used the credit for it towards the second 47inch Westy so the warranty can certainly be a plus .
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post #2801 of 4023
1/28/07 at 6:23pm
Just get the right HDMI to DVI cable or an HDMI to DVI adaptor .
Use DVI 2 and your set with the PS3.

Trying to use the PS3 on the HDMI input is a nightmare, you should be able to find a HDMI to DVI adaptor locally.

Backlight 30 or less.
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post #2802 of 4023
1/28/07 at 6:38pm
i think i've been talked out of getting this set - after 94 pages, it seems like even the positive posts talk about problems.
(that and the fact that i can't find one anywhere except BB online)

what do you think of this set vs. the Philips 47" 1080p LCD 47PF9441D?
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post #2803 of 4023
1/28/07 at 7:07pm
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Originally Posted by gui3 View Post

i think i've been talked out of getting this set - after 94 pages, it seems like even the positive posts talk about problems.
(that and the fact that i can't find one anywhere except BB online)

what do you think of this set vs. the Philips 47" 1080p LCD 47PF9441D?

I don't know anything about the Philips but I can say, based on a month of use, that my Westy 47" LCD rocks! Don't forget that most posters on this or threads elsewhere are posting because there's a problem so you get a skewed sample. And my sense is that many of the problems reported here relate to using the PS 3, HDMI issues with particular devices, etc., and not about the Westy itself. Mine is hooked up to a Scientific Atlanta 3250HD (1080i) STB with DVI, a Panny BD10 Blu-ray disc (1080p) player with HDMI and an Oppo 981 SD (1080p) DVD player with HDMI, the players running through a Panny XR700 AVR with a HDMI 2:1 switch. All work flawlessly with the Westy. No handshake or other issues of any kind. No flaws with the display. One to one pixel mapping. What's not to like?

Dana
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post #2804 of 4023
1/28/07 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

I don't know anything about the Philips but I can say, based on a month of use, that my Westy 47" LCD rocks! Don't forget that most posters on this or threads elsewhere are posting because there's a problem so you get a skewed sample. And my sense is that many of the problems reported here relate to using the PS 3, HDMI issues with particular devices, etc., and not about the Westy itself. Mine is hooked up to a Scientific Atlanta 3250HD (1080i) STB with DVI, a Panny BD10 Blu-ray disc (1080p) player with HDMI and an Oppo 981 SD (1080p) DVD player with HDMI, the players running through a Panny XR700 AVR with a HDMI 2:1 switch. All work flawlessly with the Westy. No handshake or other issues of any kind. No flaws with the display. One to one pixel mapping. What's not to like?

Dana


well it's a tech forum so of course many posts will be for problems. but on the other hand, this is a LOT of banding, dead pixel, and stuck pixel issues in a thread that's otherwise very positive.

also it seems like the philips might have a better contrast...but no DVI. native 1920x1080 for pc input is VERY important to me
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post #2805 of 4023
1/29/07 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by gui3 View Post

i think i've been talked out of getting this set - after 94 pages, it seems like even the positive posts talk about problems.
(that and the fact that i can't find one anywhere except BB online)

what do you think of this set vs. the Philips 47" 1080p LCD 47PF9441D?

I've only had mine about two weeks after getting it from BB. True, thats the only place to get it it seems but the price they have on it is great. No dead pixels or any problems, love it.
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post #2806 of 4023
1/29/07 at 12:14pm
has anybody seen this review:

http://www.denguru.com/2006/10/19/th...lvm/page2.html

it compares images from the westy against reference images. it notes that the reference images will always look better than any display.

can anyone confirm these observations?
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post #2807 of 4023
1/29/07 at 12:51pm
I'm moving to a 52" model, don't what brand yet, if anyone is interested in my westy, had it 2 months, no dead pixels, no issues and a 4 year in-home warranty from BB, must be local to So Cali, message me if interested
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post #2808 of 4023
1/29/07 at 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by garibay_2004 View Post

I'm moving to a 52" model, don't what brand yet, if anyone is interested in my westy, had it 2 months, no dead pixels, no issues and a 4 year in-home warranty from BB, must be local to So Cali, message me if interested


Same here got one ready to go.

I'm moving to a projector only setup for the room, will list it on AVS shortly within Canada only.

You should join AVS and list yours there as well if your not already a member.
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post #2809 of 4023
1/29/07 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by gui3 View Post

has anybody seen this review:

http://www.denguru.com/2006/10/19/th...lvm/page2.html

it compares images from the westy against reference images. it notes that the reference images will always look better than any display.

can anyone confirm these observations?

Yes, I've seen this review - and about a half dozen others. I'm not sure what you want confirmed. To me, the so-called reference images (Whose are they? On what device are they displayed? What authority cites them as "reference quality?") look flat while the Westy images look over-saturated. But, then, I'm looking at them on my computer monitor which may not be exactly the same as yours. And the reviewer goes on to say that simple adjustments improved the Westy PQ performance. (Were the Westy pictures taken before or after adjustments?)

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...I immediately noticed a reddish push to most flesh tones, which required an adjustment to the tint control. I also found the color to be slightly "over-cooked", but a couple of clicks down on the 'saturation' adjustment took care of it. Other than that, not much adjustment was needed, and the result was a razor sharp, robust image. Color accuracy was good after the slight tweaks were made, and the color was relatively even-handed throughout the spectrum.

Too many variables, including the opinions of these reviewers. I posted many pages ago some conflicting opinions by various so-called "experts" looking at the same TVs. There's even a web site that reviews TV reviewers!

My Westy performs marvelously in the real world - in my house. That's all I can tell you.

Dana
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post #2810 of 4023
1/29/07 at 1:07pm
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Originally Posted by gui3 View Post

has anybody seen this review:

http://www.denguru.com/2006/10/19/th...lvm/page2.html

it compares images from the westy against reference images. it notes that the reference images will always look better than any display.

can anyone confirm these observations?

From the article it seems like the "reference" images were captured from a computer using a screen capture program while the Westinghouse images were a camera pointed at the screen. If this is the case of course the reference images would not be a fair comparison. Any screencapped image is going to look tons better than a camera pointing at the screen.
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post #2811 of 4023
1/29/07 at 1:18pm
The Westy I have looks much better than in that review where the brightness and contrast seem incorrectly set.
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post #2812 of 4023
1/29/07 at 2:15pm
I set my 47" Westy up in it's temporary place this weekend. I have one stuck pixel but it's impossible to see from viewing distance. I am using the HDMI connection (thanks Dana) to a series 3 Tivo HD (1080i fixed is the setting I chose) and the results are very good. I'm not going to worry about calibration until I get it mounted on the wall.

I am seeing some occasional artifacts, but I'm 90% sure that replacing the coax into the house this week will help eliminate them.

I am also using the vga connection for an xbox 360 with HD-DVD player addon and let me say that Gears of War in 1080p is really impressive.
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post #2813 of 4023
1/29/07 at 3:39pm
replaced mine with a samsung HP-S4253, the westinghouse honestly was half as good... for the $1299 i'm WAY happier... i invite you guys to give one a try and then the westinghouse praise will stop
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post #2814 of 4023
1/29/07 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

Yes, I've seen this review ......
My Westy performs marvelously in the real world - in my house. That's all I can tell you.

Dana


thanks for the response.

i was surprised by the pics in that review....the colors on the westy (vs. the reference images) looked horrible - oversaturated, blurry and off-color.

if it really is a camera pointed at the screen - that can't be fair for any set. what if the camera's exposure is set too high? too low? too sensitive? bad angle? bad focus?

can i ask, though - how much like those "reference" images does you westy look? do you get that same detail?

my current monitor is a dell 2405FPW, 1920x1200 resolution, 1000:1 contrast. I think it's a beautiful display and it looks great 90% of the time. my only gripe is the black levels (even with the brightness at 0) when the lights are off. if you know, how would the westy compare?
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post #2815 of 4023
1/29/07 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by gui3 View Post

thanks for the response.

i was surprised by the pics in that review....the colors on the westy (vs. the reference images) looked horrible - oversaturated, blurry and off-color.

if it really is a camera pointed at the screen - that can't be fair for any set. what if the camera's exposure is set too high? too low? too sensitive? bad angle? bad focus?

can i ask, though - how much like those "reference" images does you westy look? do you get that same detail?

my current monitor is a dell 2405FPW, 1920x1200 resolution, 1000:1 contrast. I think it's a beautiful display and it looks great 90% of the time. my only gripe is the black levels (even with the brightness at 0) when the lights are off. if you know, how would the westy compare?

I thought of you as I am watching PBS HD "Legends of Jazz" just now. It's available on Blu-ray in 1080p but on Comcast it's in 1080i and the Westy is upconverting it. Rich, deep colors, blacks are really black, so sharp a picture that individual strands of hair on Jane Monheit's head easily show. Absolutely stunning.

What this tells me is that anything less than perfect PQ on the Westy is the fault of the source.

Dana
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post #2816 of 4023
1/29/07 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by boostfrenzy View Post

replaced mine with a samsung HP-S4253, the westinghouse honestly was half as good... for the $1299 i'm WAY happier... i invite you guys to give one a try and then the westinghouse praise will stop


LOL!! I just replaced my Sammy 4695D 1080p with this Westy and the Westy has a better picture in my opinion. I hated the shiny black border on the Samsung and the picture was good once I dialed in the menu but the Westy is simply better and was 1K less than the Sammy. The Westy picture reminds me of the Sony XBR lcd screens. I'm thrilled with this set. It's 1 inch larger, cost less, has a better picture than my Sammy, Has a nice flat black and flat silver finish, has a much better HDTV picture when running through my Cox HDTV box( not near as much motion artifacting) and no clouding issues in dark scenes. I'm one happy camper now that I've returned my Sammy. Much easier and quicker to get a great picture out of the Westy too. Don't fall for the "you get what you pay for" crap that the Best Buy employees shoot off about.
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post #2817 of 4023
1/29/07 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

I thought of you as I am watching PBS HD "Legends of Jazz" just now. It's available on Blu-ray in 1080p but on Comcast it's in 1080i and the Westy is upconverting it. Rich, deep colors, blacks are really black, so sharp a picture that individual strands of hair on Jane Monheit's head easily show. Absolutely stunning.

What this tells me is that anything less than perfect PQ on the Westy is the fault of the source.

Dana

(a) thanks for thinking of me. i'm touched
(b) okay. i have some restored faith in the set now. i was getting a little bogged down by the banding / contrast / dead pixel reports in this thread
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1/29/07 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by lilstinky View Post

LOL!! I just replaced my Sammy 4695D 1080p with this Westy and the Westy has a better picture in my opinion. I hated the shiny black border on the Samsung and the picture was good once I dialed in the menu but the Westy is simply better and was 1K less than the Sammy. The Westy picture reminds me of the Sony XBR lcd screens. I'm thrilled with this set. It's 1 inch larger, cost less, has a better picture than my Sammy, Has a nice flat black and flat silver finish, has a much better HDTV picture when running through my Cox HDTV box( not near as much motion artifacting) and no clouding issues in dark scenes. I'm one happy camper now that I've returned my Sammy. Much easier and quicker to get a great picture out of the Westy too. Don't fall for the "you get what you pay for" crap that the Best Buy employees shoot off about.

I bought a samsung plasma, not a lcd... go look at one, you'll feel like a douche

my lvm-47w1 was soft at best
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1/29/07 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by boostfrenzy View Post

I bought a samsung plasma, not a lcd... go look at one, you'll feel like a douche

my lvm-47w1 was soft at best

Been there, done that... won't do plasma again unless something changes drastically with the technology(I knew what tv by your model number). I just got a kick out of the fact that we both did pretty much the opposite thing and are both happy about our decision. To each his own.
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post #2820 of 4023
1/29/07 at 5:32pm
Are these sets in low stock? I was going to an exchange for one, but every store on the bestbuy.com website lists it as unavailable. I saw one on display at a store last week..I was just wondering if maybe the site just isn't listing it correctly.
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