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post #91 of 4023
plasmahouse com is showing the new 47" Westinghouse in stock at a whopping $4k? That is not the MSRP right? Its like a grand higher I believe...
post #92 of 4023
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Originally Posted by kdvditters View Post

plasmahouse com is showing the new 47" Westinghouse in stock at a whopping $4k? That is not the MSRP right? Its like a grand higher I believe...

I called plasmahouse to check this since i am thinking about getting the 42 to verify this. Sales guy said they had them in stock, asked him to double check, after 20 seconds on hold, he said they had them in stock and it would for sure ship withing 48 hours, 14 days deliver if free shipping, 3-5 days if I paid for shipping. Did not believe that so, called PC mall they had no date when they would have the 47" in stock.

Called westinghouse spoke with a nice lady who said she worked in tech support and she told me the 47 was in testing, she double checked with some one else and no idea when this tv will ship.

Off topic the nice lady said she never heard of banding or lockups in the 42" or could not confirm firm ware, etc. Statiscally speaking those issues were not a problem to them. Seems to be here though.

First connect with westy was a good experience despite no answer to when the 47 will arrive.
post #93 of 4023
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Originally Posted by Yoda1 View Post

Not sure why a better response time would be needed. I watched the 42" at Best Buy for like a half hour today and couldn't detect a hint of motion blur. One of the most stable and artifact-free HD images I've ever laid eyes on.

I haven't had a chance to put it through my patented ultimate motion blur test yet. Take (1) Super NES and (1) Super Mario World game cartridge, connect to tv in question, and play a level. I have yet to find an LCD tv that controls blurring enough to make this old game playable. I put the Bravia V40XBR1 through this torture test recently. The side scrolling action really shows off motion blur, even to people who may not have noticed it before. It blurred so bad on the 8ms rated Bravia that it made my vision lose focus. I couldn't even track the movement on the screen it was so bad.

I fully intend to put these chi mei panels to this test too just to see if they can do a little better. I think it's a prety good ultimate torture test for motion blur myself.
post #94 of 4023
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Originally Posted by Xcalibur_255 View Post

I haven't had a chance to put it through my patented ultimate motion blur test yet. Take (1) Super NES and (1) Super Mario World game cartridge, connect to tv in question, and play a level. I have yet to find an LCD tv that controls blurring enough to make this old game playable. I put the Bravia V40XBR1 through this torture test recently. The side scrolling action really shows off motion blur, even to people who may not have noticed it before. It blurred so bad on the 8ms rated Bravia that it made my vision lose focus. I couldn't even track the movement on the screen it was so bad.

I fully intend to put these chi mei panels to this test too just to see if they can do a little better. I think it's a prety good ultimate torture test for motion blur myself.

Well .... that's not something I - or most people - will ever be concerned about. Besides, I'd rather just play those games via Virtual Console on the Wii - 480p too.
post #95 of 4023
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Originally Posted by Yoda1 View Post

Well .... that's not something I - or most people - will ever be concerned about. Besides, I'd rather just play those games via Virtual Console on the Wii - 480p too.

You misunderstand me here. Rather completely I might add. I couldn't care less how playable the game is, the purpose is to provide what I feel is a worst case scenario for how badly an LCD panel will ghost. Of all the material I've seen on LCDs I've never seen anything show ghosting like an old side-scrolling vidoegame, therefore they're a great way to get an idea of how bad ghosting might be in a worst-case scenario on any given tv.

When I try this on the Westy all I want to know is if it's response time can control blurring more or less than the tv I'm comparing it to. They're both 8ms rated, but I suspect the Westy will do better.
post #96 of 4023
LOL that is the most interesting way yet I've heard to test for ghosting and blur, but kudos to for finding an almost sure fire way to see if the panel is up to the task. Let us know if the westinghouse is able to stand up to the mario world test of DOOM.
post #97 of 4023
Does anyone KNOW if the 47" will also have the Faroudja chip in it? has it been confirmed by westinghouse yet?
post #98 of 4023
I was seriously thinking about the 42" model but now that I've found this thread I'm going to wait for the 47". Still using a Sony Wega 36" SDTV for now, which I've been very bhappy with for 4 years.
post #99 of 4023
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Originally Posted by garibay_2004 View Post

Does anyone KNOW if the 47" will also have the Faroudja chip in it? has it been confirmed by westinghouse yet?

Genesis chip(s) with Faroudja technologies yes, their web site says: "Additionally, PC and notebooks users can enjoy the same fat pipe and the industry best Genesis Display Perfection® technology."
post #100 of 4023
I went to Best Buy during the infamous sale on the 42" Westinghouse, but despite the nice price drop, after seeing the size of the monitor, (from 9 - 11 ft. away), there was no way I could buy it, (even though I went there expecting to purchase it). My couch is 11 ft. away, and loveseat is about 9 ft. away. I looked at a few other 47" - 50" TV's / monitor's, and they seem like the minimum acceptable size for that viewing distance, (for me at least). I had to stand about 6 ft. away or so from the 42", for optimized viewing. I have heard other opinions on screen size, viewing distance, etc.. So, I guess I'm writing this to recommend that people actually go in store, look at the model they want to buy, and view it from a distance that reflects their home viewing configuration. If you just read reviews, and buy from a website, you may regret it, (as I would have if I had bought it). I'm waiting for the 47" Westinghouse, (and maybe another brand or two in the same price / size range), to become available, and I'm also hoping that Westinghouse will have the banding and power on/off issues resolved with the release of this latest model.
post #101 of 4023
well i went to bb and 42 is not that small actually. it seems a lot smaller when placed next to 50+ tvs but it is fine by itself. i already have a 42 panny in a huge room and i sit about 11 ft away and it's fine for movies, etc. i sit closer for gaming though. I mainly want the 47 because I get the feeling the 42 is being discontinued with all of its issues...

Also, plasmahouse has lied to me before and said the panny was in and ready to ship and 3 weeks later they tell me it's on backorder and they have no idea when it's coming in. I don't believe them when they say the 47 is ready to ship and westy itself says it's not ready haha. anyway if hte 47 is coming in the next couple weeks i'll get it, but I'm not waiting till July....
post #102 of 4023
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Originally Posted by kdvditters View Post

I went to Best Buy during the infamous sale on the 42" Westinghouse, but despite the nice price drop, after seeing the size of the monitor, (from 9 - 11 ft. away), there was no way I could buy it, (even though I went there expecting to purchase it). My couch is 11 ft. away, and loveseat is about 9 ft. away. I looked at a few other 47" - 50" TV's / monitor's, and they seem like the minimum acceptable size for that viewing distance, (for me at least). I had to stand about 6 ft. away or so from the 42", for optimized viewing. I have heard other opinions on screen size, viewing distance, etc.. So, I guess I'm writing this to recommend that people actually go in store, look at the model they want to buy, and view it from a distance that reflects their home viewing configuration. If you just read reviews, and buy from a website, you may regret it, (as I would have if I had bought it). I'm waiting for the 47" Westinghouse, (and maybe another brand or two in the same price / size range), to become available, and I'm also hoping that Westinghouse will have the banding and power on/off issues resolved with the release of this latest model.

I'm with you. I really, really had to resist the urge to purchase the 42" for the great price when I saw it. I know, however, that I truly want a larger screen than 42" and the 47" version should suffice. Never settle for less than what you truly want.
post #103 of 4023
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Originally Posted by MastaMind View Post

I'm with you. I really, really had to resist the urge to purchase the 42" for the great price when I saw it. I know, however, that I truly want a larger screen than 42" and the 47" version should suffice. Never settle for less than what you truly want.

That's exactly why I'm waiting. =)

I have an old Samsung HLM617W I got 4 years ago in the living room which is probably going to be overlooked once I get the nice new 47 1080p screen for the bedroom.

I just wish I knew when it will be available =/
post #104 of 4023
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Originally Posted by MastaMind View Post

I'm with you. I really, really had to resist the urge to purchase the 42" for the great price when I saw it. I know, however, that I truly want a larger screen than 42" and the 47" version should suffice. Never settle for less than what you truly want.

I'm with you. I had my eye on the 42" Westy since I first started looking for my 1st HDTV in Feb. I came close to getting it when I found it on sell in April for about $2100 but then I read about the 47". Since 47" was due in mid summer and 47" and really would be better fit for my living room and viewing distance I have waited. Hopefully with in next month BB will have this unit available.
post #105 of 4023
I couldn't resist the rock bottom price at bb last saturday's sale, I went ahead and bought the 42" but I find myself wishing it was a little bigger since I am using it as a computer monitor, I have to sit close cause it's hard to read at more than 6 feet away, 47" should be just perfect. but I would have to pay twice as much, hmmm I have a few days to decide, since I only got it a week ago, in case I decide to return it, and I found a dead pixel and that bugs me too. although no lock ups and no banding
post #106 of 4023
macmall has the 47" listed at 3,199 wonder if any sellers will sell it at the MSRP, anyways, I will probably wait and see how it looks once it comes out, and wait until it drops a lil before I decide to get it, by that time Samsung and other will have 1080p sets to compare to
post #107 of 4023
I stopped in my local BB today and asked about the 47". Their system showed it theoretically available as of June 12, but no Boston area locations had it in stock, and the system refused to accept a customer order. Price was in line with WD's expectation.
post #108 of 4023
I found at least one web site that says that they have it in stock:

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post #109 of 4023
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Originally Posted by Xcalibur_255 View Post

I haven't had a chance to put it through my patented ultimate motion blur test yet. Take (1) Super NES and (1) Super Mario World game cartridge, connect to tv in question, and play a level. I have yet to find an LCD tv that controls blurring enough to make this old game playable. I put the Bravia V40XBR1 through this torture test recently. The side scrolling action really shows off motion blur, even to people who may not have noticed it before. It blurred so bad on the 8ms rated Bravia that it made my vision lose focus. I couldn't even track the movement on the screen it was so bad.

I fully intend to put these chi mei panels to this test too just to see if they can do a little better. I think it's a prety good ultimate torture test for motion blur myself.


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Originally Posted by Yoda1 View Post

Well .... that's not something I - or most people - will ever be concerned about. Besides, I'd rather just play those games via Virtual Console on the Wii - 480p too.


Actually, this would be a pretty big deal to me since I think the new fangled video games suck, big time. I have played/beaten this game more then a few handfuls of time and still enjoy it more then most. It does not get boring to me. I really couldn't care any less about any of the new video games, even with HD and all.
post #110 of 4023
please don't edit out where it is in stock mods!!!

we want to know what sites have it!
post #111 of 4023
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Originally Posted by contaygious View Post

please don't edit out where it is in stock mods!!!

we want to know what sites have it!

I've found that if you want to get a good idea who says they carry it and stock it, just froogle the model number.

Not a perfect science, but it worked for me with the LVM-42w2.

ebob
post #112 of 4023
I believe the MSRP of hte 47" is $2999, but rumor has it that it will release at less than that.
So, with the 42" being $1999 at most stores, the extra $500 - $800 or so for the 47" doesn't look too bad.
My plan is to wait until end of Aug. to early Sept. as a number of manufacturers has their new lines being released around the end of summer, so we should see some price drops and good competition by then.
Also, it would be nice to have the new TV in time for the fall lineup, and for the cold weather here in MN, (don't watch much TV during the summer).
post #113 of 4023
Yeah, I'd like for this set to come out as soon as possible so that the price has had time to come down a bit by the Fall. I've definitely gotta pick up a new set before 2007
post #114 of 4023
I heard Westinghouse is making a 56" LCD, does anyone know when this t.v will be available????????
Thanks Tim sc430.
post #115 of 4023
Tim,

I have not heard of a release date for the 56", and the 47", while expected any day now, still does not have an official availability date. It will probably be a few more weeks to months before we have any idea when the 56" will hit the market.
Just my $.02.
post #116 of 4023
J&R has the MSRP at $3,499, (I originally heard $2,999, so I stand corrected from my previous statement), but from what I see of pre-order pricing, Buy daught com has it for $3,098.99.
If that is pre-order pricing, then my original guess of true street pricing of $2,500 to $2,800 shortly after its release shouldn't be far off.
The number retailers that have been listing this product has also been steadily increasing over the past couple of days too, (hopefully bodes well for those of us patiently, or not so patiently, waiting).
post #117 of 4023
The westinghouse 42 and 47 only has 1 HDMI input? Why would you only want one input? However, the 47 is suppose to have 6.5ms response time which is better than the usual 8ms.
post #118 of 4023
J791,
Well, I think everyone would prefer to have 2 or 3 HDMI connections, but... The 47" does have 4 HD connections that support up to 1080p, and 2 more that support up to 1080i:

1 HDMI(R)-HDCP + L/R Audio
480i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

2 DVI -HDCP + L/R Audio
480i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

1 VGA/D-Sub/
RGB + Audio mini jack 480i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

2 YPbPr Component Video
+ L/R Audio 480i/p, 720p, 1080i

Also, you can purchase a HDMI switcher / box that will accept multiple HDMI connections that plug into your one HDMI on the TV / Monitor. You then just switch between sources. (Switchers do cost a pretty penny though).

Hope this helps.
post #119 of 4023
Thanks for the help.
post #120 of 4023
The Olevia 47" 1080p LCD (747i) will have 2 HDMI inputs and 3 Component inputs. It also has HQV processing. It may be the one to beat.

Does anyone know if the W3 has descrete IR codes?
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