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post #14971 of 40764
I know, seems like I have read 450 of them and 150 of them were about ARC

Will not install 1.2.4 until I have the DSP installed and ready for ARC. Very exciting.

John
post #14972 of 40764
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

I know, seems like I have read 450 of them and 150 of them were about ARC

Will not install 1.2.4 until I have the DSP installed and ready for ARC. Very exciting.

John

There will definitely be another version out, as 1.2.4 is a test or beta version. I'd advise waiting until you have the upgrade and the Arc-1 in hand. You will get a CD and the program on that will be more up-to-date than 1.24.
post #14973 of 40764
Hoping to have the DSP installed next week and I will definitely wait for whatever cd I get with it. I have read just about everything on ARC and will be very careful about the install and of course the measurements. Will report when it is done.
John
post #14974 of 40764
In the meantime I have done some experimenting with my AVM50 which has the buzzing in the left channels. I changed each source from autodig=no to YES. Now the buzzing has a shorter duration and when I go into the setup menu I don't get the buzzing. The cable box seems to sync faster. Also noticed the buzzing stops as soon as a video signal is established. All using HDMI except for SD DVD player.

John
post #14975 of 40764
"Twas the night before August, when all thro' the house,
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse;
The speakers were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that the ARC Kit soon would be there!
The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of Blu-Ray discs danc'd in their heads,
And Mama in her 'kerchief, and I in my cap,
Had just settled our brains for a long summer's nap-
When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters, and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the newly mown heath,
Gave the lustre of mid-day to objects beneath;
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a minature truck of Canadian beer,
With a little old driver, so lively and quick,
I knew in a moment it must be St. Nick!
A wink of his eye and a twist of his head
Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread.
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
And install'd the upgrade; then turn'd with a jerk,
And laying his finger aside of his nose
And giving a nod, up'd the volume and rose.
He sprung to his truck, grabbed a beer, gave a whistle,
And away he sped off, like the down of a thistle:
But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight-
Happy ARCing to all, and to all a good night!"

--Bob (can't teach an old doggerel new tricks) P.
post #14976 of 40764
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

In the meantime I have done some experimenting with my AVM50 which has the buzzing in the left channels. I changed each source from autodig=no to YES. Now the buzzing has a shorter duration and when I go into the setup menu I don't get the buzzing. The cable box seems to sync faster. Also noticed the buzzing stops as soon as a video signal is established. All using HDMI except for SD DVD player.

John

Changing autodig to YES means the audio switches to the analog input whenever the digital input goes silent -- as during the change when you switch inputs. That's why the duration is shorter. There is definitely a problem on your digital audio input, and probably on the HDMI portion of that.
--Bob
post #14977 of 40764
I've emailed St. Nick about this thinking more info about the behaviour might help.

Things must be slow here on the Anthem thread, poetry?

John
post #14978 of 40764
Don't know if this is a new issue with ARC so am hoping that someone out there could confirm one way or another.

I have a Denon SACD player hooked up to my D2 6-ch input.
D2 settings as follows-
Audio In = Analog-DSP
Bass Manager = Movie
Room EQ= On
ARC measurements are made thus -
Movie = 5.1 ch
Music = 2 ch (ie without the sub)

Problem was experienced only on one 1 disc so far -
The Sound of Glory
Mormon Tabernacle Choir
Telarc SACD-60579

While playing with Movie setting and EQ on, the bass was unusually loud and uncomfortably resonating. Switching EQ off was a blessed relief and everything sounded very normal. Switching to Music with EQ on was horrible - the sound was twice as loud from the front speakers and muffled. Everything sound very normal again when EQ was switched off.

Strangely, the few other SACD discs I have do not exhibit this problem, as are all my CDs. I don't think it is the disc's fault because switching EQ off with either Music or Movie setting did not exhibit the problem - it only happens when EQ is on.

So the question - Is there something unusual with this particular disc which does not go down well with ARC?
-Ben
post #14979 of 40764
The only thing I can think of is that this specific disc has a ridiculous amount of subsonic bass that ARC is exposing, but which is concealed by the subsonic filter when ARC is turned off -- perhaps leading to your bass drivers bottoming out. You might want to do a search in the content (software) forums here and see if there are any comments about this disc.

But your best bet is probably to give Anthem tech support a call. They will likely want you to email them your ARC Measurements&Calculations file.
--Bob
post #14980 of 40764
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The only thing I can think of is that this specific disc has a ridiculous amount of subsonic bass that ARC is exposing, but which is concealed by the subsonic filter when ARC is turned off -- perhaps leading to your bass drivers bottoming out. You might want to do a search in the content (software) forums here and see if there are any comments about this disc.

But your best bet is probably to give Anthem tech support a call. They will likely want you to email them your ARC Measurements&Calculations file.
--Bob


I too have a similar problem using ARC 1.2.4, Bass is being diverted to the center channel and you can see the abnormal cone motions with the woofers of my center speaker. sound is distorted.

I also noticed that when when I switched between movie and music, there's a loud LF "THUG" sound. I have not noticed that with previous ARC versions.
post #14981 of 40764
I am considering getting the ARC kit for my AVM50. The cost is $709 plus installation.
1. For those who have it, is it worth the cost?
2. Have you found it to make a considerable difference?
3. Does anyone who has ARC have Velodynes DD series subs? How does ARC interact with Velodynes EQ software? Any issue between the two?
post #14982 of 40764
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

At the risk of posting something you all already know, I found something very interesting.
I purchased a ps-3 ir-pro from schmartstuff (I think) a few months back so that I could control my PS-3 with my universal remote. Last night I upgraded the PS-3 to the latest software. In the process of the upgrade I was asked to push the "PS" button. Since I didn't have a button marked "PS" on my universal, I hooked up my playstation hand control via the usb and completed the upgrade.
Today while trying to figure out how to program the "PS" command into my universal remote (its the 'power/reset' BTW) I took out the original ps-3 hand control to look at it to see if the the "PS" was labeled as something else so that I could find it on my universal remote's database, I inadvetently pushed the "PS" button on the hand control and the ps-3 powered on. Without the usb cord connected.
So I tried other commands from the ps-3 remote without it being hard wire connected to the ps-3 and it worked. I seems that the blue-tooth/ir converters have the added benefit of making the 'wired' ps-3 hand-control that comes with the ps-3 into a wireless hand control.
This isn't too great of a benefit if you don't use your to play games, but if you do you have a 'free' wireless hand control. Not a big deal, but a nice, unexpected bonus.
Just thought I'd pass it on,
Tom

Are you sure about this? This doesn't seem possible. I'm thinking you may have a wireless controller and don't realize it. From what I have read, the PS3 Wired Controller does NOT have a PS button. Check out this link; http://www.censuspc.com/PS3-Wired-Co...0-pr-5728.html
post #14983 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

At the risk of posting something you all already know, I found something very interesting.
I purchased a ps-3 ir-pro from schmartstuff (I think) a few months back so that I could control my PS-3 with my universal remote. Last night I upgraded the PS-3 to the latest software. In the process of the upgrade I was asked to push the "PS" button. Since I didn't have a button marked "PS" on my universal, I hooked up my playstation hand control via the usb and completed the upgrade.
Today while trying to figure out how to program the "PS" command into my universal remote (its the 'power/reset' BTW) I took out the original ps-3 hand control to look at it to see if the the "PS" was labeled as something else so that I could find it on my universal remote's database, I inadvetently pushed the "PS" button on the hand control and the ps-3 powered on. Without the usb cord connected.
So I tried other commands from the ps-3 remote without it being hard wire connected to the ps-3 and it worked. I seems that the blue-tooth/ir converters have the added benefit of making the 'wired' ps-3 hand-control that comes with the ps-3 into a wireless hand control.
This isn't too great of a benefit if you don't use your to play games, but if you do you have a 'free' wireless hand control. Not a big deal, but a nice, unexpected bonus.
Just thought I'd pass it on,
Tom

Urh, you do realize the Sony PS3 "Sixaxis" and "Dual Shock" game controllers are both BlueTooth wireless controllers don't you?

If you connect them to the PS3 by USB cable, the will communicate that way, but if not connected, and if they have any battery charge remaining, they will communicate via BlueTooth (radio) wireless. Any command sent to the PS3 by any, previously paired, BlueTooth wireless controller will have the effect of powering it up.
--Bob
post #14984 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluemark81 View Post

I am considering getting the ARC kit for my AVM50. The cost is $709 plus installation.
1. For those who have it, is it worth the cost?
2. Have you found it to make a considerable difference?
3. Does anyone who has ARC have Velodynes DD series subs? How does ARC interact with Velodynes EQ software? Any issue between the two?

It is DEFINITELY worth the cost. A bargain!

It makes a considerable difference.

I have a Velodyne DD-15 sub. I now use Preset 6 (disable the Velodyne's internal EQ system) and let ARC do the work. No issues.
--Bob
post #14985 of 40764
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Originally Posted by abc999 View Post

I too have a similar problem using ARC 1.2.4, Bass is being diverted to the center channel and you can see the abnormal cone motions with the woofers of my center speaker. sound is distorted.

I also noticed that when when I switched between movie and music, there's a loud LF "THUG" sound. I have not noticed that with previous ARC versions.

Give Anthem tech support a call. This is not supposed to be happening. If it is peculiar to the V1.2.4 version of ARC we need to confirm this ASAP, since that version is likely to be part of the AVM ARC upgrade about to ship.

Are you seeing this on specific discs or with all discs?

In addition, double check that the ARC Upload has left the proper values in your Setup menu (proper speakers included in the configuration, cross overs, and speaker levels).
--Bob
post #14986 of 40764
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Originally Posted by mlbrand View Post

Are you sure about this? This doesn't seem possible. I'm thinking you may have a wireless controller and don't realize it. From what I have read, the PS3 Wired Controller does NOT have a PS button. Check out this link; http://www.censuspc.com/PS3-Wired-Co...0-pr-5728.html

Boy do I feel dumb!
I just looked at the back of the controller and it says 'wireless'. I assumed since it came with a cable that it was wired. The usb cable must be for charging. Duh!
Nevermind.
Mea culpa.
Sorry.
Tom
post #14987 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

It is DEFINITELY worth the cost. A bargain!

It makes a considerable difference.

I have a Velodyne DD-15 sub. I now use Preset 6 (disable the Velodyne's internal EQ system) and let ARC do the work. No issues.
--Bob

Bob, how long was your machine gone for the upgrade? This sounds like something I need.
post #14988 of 40764
I have a D2. The D1 and D2 need no hardware upgrade to use ARC. You just have to install the latest firmware and purchase the ARC application kit itself (Windows PC software and a specially calibrated microphone).

The AVM hardware upgrade for ARC for the AVM40 and AVM50 adds a second DSP to those units that ARC needs to do its job. This hardware change is dealer installable. This is supposed to start shipping any day now.
--Bob
post #14989 of 40764
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Originally Posted by abc999 View Post

I too have a similar problem using ARC 1.2.4, Bass is being diverted to the center channel and you can see the abnormal cone motions with the woofers of my center speaker. sound is distorted.

I also noticed that when when I switched between movie and music, there's a loud LF "THUG" sound. I have not noticed that with previous ARC versions.

abc999,

You are right about the loud "POP". It happens when switching on from 2-ch to multi-ch.

What D2 version are your running with ARC v1.2.4? I am using v1.31c. Am wondering if there's a partnership mismatch.
-Ben
post #14990 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The only thing I can think of is that this specific disc has a ridiculous amount of subsonic bass that ARC is exposing, but which is concealed by the subsonic filter when ARC is turned off -- perhaps leading to your bass drivers bottoming out. You might want to do a search in the content (software) forums here and see if there are any comments about this disc.

But your best bet is probably to give Anthem tech support a call. They will likely want you to email them your ARC Measurements&Calculations file.
--Bob

Bob,

You may be correct about the excessive subsonic bass on this particular SACD disc. I have noticed since using ARC that the bass on SACD discs are generally a bit more generous than normal. But my sub hasn't heard to bottom so far, even with this particular disc. Just makes me woozy. It goes down to 18Hz at 3dB and is driven by 750W of power (peak 2,100W), so there's plenty of room.

Just to be sure, I'll do a bit more research before calling for help.

What I can do meantime is use the SMS-1 after ARC to tame the subsonic output.
-Ben
post #14991 of 40764
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Originally Posted by budeone View Post

Bob, how long was your machine gone for the upgrade? This sounds like something I need.

My dealer is telling me it is about a 45 minute to an hour job to change the board and to the software upgrade. They do it right at the dealer, from what they tell me. They are taking orders now.
post #14992 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Give Anthem tech support a call. This is not supposed to be happening. If it is peculiar to the V1.2.4 version of ARC we need to confirm this ASAP, since that version is likely to be part of the AVM ARC upgrade about to ship.

Are you seeing this on specific discs or with all discs?

In addition, double check that the ARC Upload has left the proper values in your Setup menu (proper speakers included in the configuration, cross overs, and speaker levels).
--Bob

I did another run with ARC1.2.4 with 1.33 firmware. It was running fine until I checked the speaker levels, when i highlighted the movie sub level , there was a LOUD uncontrolled LF (I I don't know which speaker(s)) output. I turned the unit off fearing damage.

I then reverted back to 1.2.2 and remeasured then did the same thing, a slight thug is heard but not annoying. I will send files to Nick ASAP.

1.2.4 files are not compatible with 1.2.2 therefore i had to do the measurements again
post #14993 of 40764
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Originally Posted by benleeys View Post

abc999,

You are right about the loud "POP". It happens when switching on from 2-ch to multi-ch.

What D2 version are your running with ARC v1.2.4? I am using v1.31c. Am wondering if there's a partnership mismatch.
-Ben

1.33
post #14994 of 40764
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

Boy do I feel dumb!

The USB Cable is for CHARGING the batteries in the wireless remote
post #14995 of 40764
Tues. afternoon for my AVM 50 upgrade for ARC. Will be done at dealer but may be done by St.Nick himself. I get to watch
John

When done I would like some bouncing mascots please
post #14996 of 40764
Does anyone know if Anthem has made any progress on the new HDMI driver?
post #14997 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by abc999 View Post

I did another run with ARC1.2.4 with 1.33 firmware. It was running fine until I checked the speaker levels, when i highlighted the movie sub level , there was a LOUD uncontrolled LF (I I don't know which speaker(s)) output. I turned the unit off fearing damage.

I then reverted back to 1.2.2 and remeasured then did the same thing, a slight thug is heard but not annoying. I will send files to Nick ASAP.

1.2.4 files are not compatible with 1.2.2 therefore i had to do the measurements again

Hmmmm, sounds like there is a problem with ARC V1.2.4.

Is anybody else here using ARC V1.2.4 and D2 V1.33 *WITHOUT* having bass issues? I know we had a number of folks who were told to go to ARC V1.2.4 to increase the range of subwoofer level trim that could be Uploaded. Is that working for you folks without problems?

So we know they changed SOMETHING related to bass for ARC V1.2.4.
--Bob
post #14998 of 40764
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Originally Posted by ASW View Post

Does anyone know if Anthem has made any progress on the new HDMI driver?

The latest version on the test software page dates back to June 26. It still has significant problems which mean it is not yet ready for prime time (i.e., DON'T USE IT). But the promise is there, as one thing it does do much better is the re-handshake when my Comcast HD/DVR changes output resolutions.
--Bob
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post #15000 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The latest version on the test software page dates back to June 26. It still has significant problems which mean it is not yet ready for prime time (i.e., DON'T USE IT). But the promise is there, as one thing it does do much better is the re-handshake when my Comcast HD/DVR changes output resolutions.
--Bob

I was wondering whether a new version might be on the horizon.
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