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post #16411 of 40739
10/7/08 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by AbMagFab View Post

A page or so back (or on the D3 thread), there was a post that the dealer said the AVMv2 was coming in November, and the D2v2 would be before that.

Ergo, October.

So if you're so confident it's not this month, you must have some sort of information. Care to share when you've heard it should be available (subject to change)?

Thanks,
Mark

I don't have any info on what the date could be. But, I have enough info to confirm that it will not be in October. Even November seem aggressive.

Will See.
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post #16412 of 40739
10/7/08 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by Tolstoi View Post

I don't have any info on what the date could be. But, I have enough info to confirm that it will not be in October. Even November seem aggressive.

Will See.

Where are all of the Beta testers when we need them?
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post #16413 of 40739
10/7/08 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

You don't mention whether you've got the Elite or non-Elite Kuro (the difference being the calibration options), but in either case the video processing in the Kuro is excellent. And if you don't intend to use anything but 720p, 1080i, and 1080p/60 or /24 sources with it, the capabilities of the video processing in the Anthem will be of marginal value to you.

There are still fun tricks of course. For example, in my area, some of the HD channels periodically broadcast letterboxed SD movies embedded in an HD signal. I.e., you've got a 4:3 frame embedded in the broadcast HD frame, and inside that 4:3 frame is a letterboxed movie. That means you've got black around all 4 sides. Keep in mind this is a 1080i signal (which means that zoom modes are likely unavailable in the display). With the Anthem it is easy to set up a Custom Crop that will extract that movie and let you use the full size of your 16:9 display to see it.

But the real advantage of a video processor like the Anthem comes from dealing with a range of video sources of different qualities. Then you can calibrate the Kuro for one, unchanging video signal (from the Anthem) and the Anthem will take care of the rest.
--Bob

Thank you so much for the reply Bob, much appreciated.

My fault... I neglected to mention which Kuro (which I don't have yet, but will in a week or two) it will be the Elite.

Mark
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post #16414 of 40739
10/8/08 at 6:20am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Yes, that all works fine. You can input YCbCr in either the HDTV or SDTV color space and output as either Studio RGB (Black=16) or Extended RGB (Black=0).

There is also an HDMI Sync setting (normal/inverted) that can correct for issues in some DVI displays which result in either no video or in video which is shifted horizontally by about 1/3 of the screen.

The most common problem reported here is that folks with DVI displays (DVI projectors seem to be the worst offenders) report that the DVI display doesn't deal well with the Automatic data format handshake. The Anthem gets confused by what the DVI display is responding and sends YCbCr to the display. This results in video which is "shocking pink". The easy fix is to select that you want Studio or Extended RGB output instead of leaving it to the automatic handshake to decide.

My Fujitsu DVI display requires me to explicitly select Studio RGB output and to use the Inverted HDMI Sync setting for example. There is also a setting needed in the display itself to configure it to expect Studio RGB input on the DVI socket. It defaults to Extended RGB in the mistaken assumption that the DVI socket is being used to connect a computer to the display.
--Bob

Thanks, Bob.

FWIW, I've got a Panasonic TH65PF9UK panel. I'm not sure if I need to select anything explicit on my panel, but if I'm going to get a D2, I will double-check if I need to do anything.
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post #16415 of 40739
10/8/08 at 6:46am
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Originally Posted by gostan View Post

Where are all of the Beta testers when we need them?

I was Beta tester for the ARC only.
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post #16416 of 40739
10/8/08 at 8:17am
This thread is driving me crazy. I'm still looking for a dealer to install ARC since my local dealer 5 minutes away doesn't have ANY interest in Anthem anymore????

Now it sounds like there's a V2 coming out soon!!!

Any chance they'll install a simple USB port (preferably in front) for firmware updates?

Everytime I step away from this thread for a couple months, Anthem comes out with new stuff.
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post #16417 of 40739
10/8/08 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by ripclawsa View Post

Thanks, Bob.

FWIW, I've got a Panasonic TH65PF9UK panel. I'm not sure if I need to select anything explicit on my panel, but if I'm going to get a D2, I will double-check if I need to do anything.

I don't know if your panel is a 1080p or 768p panel, but we've had numerous reports that some of the Panasonic 768p panels require unusual video signal timings when you try to send them their "native" 768p resolution.

The D2 can do this by creating a Custom video output using the Live Video Settings Editor (a Windows application provided free by Anthem) and uploading that to the D2. The Custom resolution you create then becomes a resolution choice in the Setup > Video Output configuration menu.

There's a link in the first post of this thread to a post documenting the Custom video output setup these folks have been using. Apparently this was derived from the custom timings folks found worked with other stand alone video processors.

I don't know if all the Panasonic 768p panels require this for "native" video, but we've had many reports here that the Custom setup described in that post works just fine for a variety of Panasonic panels. I don't believe any 1080p panels require a special setup like this.
--Bob
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post #16418 of 40739
10/8/08 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by aus View Post

This thread is driving me crazy. I'm still looking for a dealer to install ARC since my local dealer 5 minutes away doesn't have ANY interest in Anthem anymore????

Now it sounds like there's a V2 coming out soon!!!

Any chance they'll install a simple USB port (preferably in front) for firmware updates?

Everytime I step away from this thread for a couple months, Anthem comes out with new stuff.

There's definitely no USB port in the D2 v.2 or AVM-50 v.2.

Give Anthem a call and see if they can help you with finding a dealer. If they've no longer got a dealer for your area, maybe they can offer some other means to get ARC hardware installed in your AVM-50 (e.g., installing it yourself). Keep in mind, if you have a D2 instead of an AVM-50, there's no hardware to install anyway. The ARC software install is definitely something you can do yourself and you are better off learning how to do the ARC measurements yourself anyway, so you don't need a dealer for either of those.

But it is still probably a good idea to find and get to know your new Anthem dealer since that's your best bet for getting info on the v.2 products and deciding the best way to go from what you have now to a v.2.
--Bob
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post #16419 of 40739
10/8/08 at 9:54am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I don't know if your panel is a 1080p or 768p panel, but we've had numerous reports that some of the Panasonic 768p panels require unusual video signal timings when you try to send them their "native" 768p resolution.

This is a 1080P panel. I have a similar (consumer) version of this panel that has been professionally calibrated (by Kevin Miller) and it did not need any particularly special adjustments either at the panel or the D2.
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post #16420 of 40739
10/8/08 at 11:12am
From what I've observed in this thread, the main interest in the D2 has been its video capabilities. Now, the D2 is also a preamp and right now I am using it as an external DAC as well for my CD source.

From the few comments I've come across, I get the impression that it's D/A capabilities, despite its upsampling/oversampling features, is not quite as good as some of the better CD players. Reasonably priced DACs like the Benchmark and Aqvox are reported to be excellent, mainly on account of their precision reclocking features to achieve extremely low jitter, whatever the source. The undesirable factor with using such an external DAC with the D2 is that the analog output will have to pass thru another A/D-D/A process in the D2 in order to take advantage of the ARC

Perhaps I am wrong, but I would be really interested in hearing the opinion of my fellow users.

Also, does anyone know of any proposed improvement to the DAC section of the D2 v2?

Nowadays, media servers (PCs) seems quite common in use as a CD library. It would be nice if Anthem can provide a USB input for those who intend to use the D2 as an external DAC for such a source.

Ben
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post #16421 of 40739
10/8/08 at 11:16am
There has been nothing indicating the DACs will change in the D2 v.2.

Keep in mind that you can use ANALOG-DIRECT mode in the D2 if you are willing to forego any audio processing in the D2 (surround modes or ARC). Frankly I think the benefits of ARC far outweigh any tiny difference in DAC results.

I'll let others speak to the audio quality of the current DACs except to say that they've certainly exceeded my expectations.
--Bob
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post #16422 of 40739
10/8/08 at 11:25am
This post is NOT about the D2 per se, but a Japanese-only CD manufacturing process called Super Heavy Material or SHM.

Maybe I should ask if anyone in this forum has played these through the D2 and how they sound to be more on topic?

Here's a brief blurb about them:

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SHM stands for “Super High Material” – It was developed by JVC and Universal Music for the Japanese market and can only be found there at this point.

On an SHM CD, the polycarbonate plastic surface is super-clean for added transparency on the data side… which makes it easier for the laser to read, this causes superior listening punch and quality. It’s the same material used for LCD panel monitors.

All SHMs are playable in a standard CD player.

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I am just wondering if there is a substantial and noticeable difference to the sound reproduction vs. regular CDs, SACDs, etc.

As far as I can tell there are currently around 200 CD titles available that were produced using the SHM process. But they are all Japanese in origin and therefore quite expensive!

Thanks,
Mark
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post #16423 of 40739
10/8/08 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

There has been nothing indicating the DACs will change in the D2 v.2.

Keep in mind that you can use ANALOG-DIRECT mode in the D2 if you are willing to forego any audio processing in the D2 (surround modes or ARC). Frankly I think the benefits of ARC far outweigh any tiny difference in DAC results.

I'll let others speak to the audio quality of the current DACs except to say that they've certainly exceeded my expectations.
--Bob

Thanks for responding, Bob.

Yes, I am fully aware of the use of the Analog-Direct mode, but like I mentioned, it means bypassing the ARC feature too, which is a no no for me, as I'm now fully addicted to it.

One thing I ought to mention is that in using the D2 as an external DAC, I find that the sound quality is tends to differ from transport to transport. I am told, rightly or wrongly, that it's a jitter factor. Seems quite probable, because with the Benchmark, I can detect little or no difference with different transports. So perhaps, the D2 could do with an upgrade in its DAC section as well. Pity, if there's no intention to do so. It would certainly make the unit truely outstanding in both video and audio, even if I have to pay a bit more for the pleasure of owning it.

Ben
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post #16424 of 40739
10/8/08 at 12:13pm
Ben,
Have you explored raising the sampling frequency in the D2 for the A/D conversion of the 2-channel analog inputs? The factory default is 44.1KHz digitizing but it can be raised up to 96KHz.

See Section 3.9 of the Manual.

We've had some positive reports here from folks doing that for 2-channel analog input, as from high-end CD players. The 6-channel analog input already uses 96KHz digitizing by default.

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Also double check the Analog Input levels you are using with different players. See Section 3.8 of the Manual.

Subtle differences in Analog output levels from the different players may be complicating what you are hearing when you have the D2 re-digitize that input.
--Bob
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post #16425 of 40739
10/8/08 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

I was googling oppo blu-ray this morning and came upon an AVS thread that had started at cedia this year.
Apparently they had a non-functioning box on display of their blu-ray prototype, BDP-83. Does anyone here have any info on this model and how it would work with the D2?
Does it output in 480i standard dvd via hdmi?
Does it internally decode Dolby and DTS HD audio and output pcm via hdmi?
Does it play SACD, DVD-A, standard DVD video?
Release date?
Price?
I realize that until Oppo officially announces it, all that's available is conjecture and rumor, but I'd appreciate any reliable information available.
Tom


What is the advantage of a player that outputs 480i? Aren't the vast majority of DVDs encoded at 480p? What am I missing?
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post #16426 of 40739
10/8/08 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by drdisc View Post

I am just wondering if there is a substantial and noticeable difference to the sound reproduction vs. regular CDs, SACDs, etc.

I call BS on that, sorry, but there's nothing you can do to the disc itself to improve the quality of the content on it. It's a digital file, it's either read right or not.

Now XRCD, I could see having some merit, but not because they did anything to the disc, from what I'd read about XRCD it was a process of mastering the CD, all the way from source to stamping. But even then, it's basically no different than "Superbit" DVDs.
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post #16427 of 40739
10/8/08 at 1:10pm
No. Standard DVDs are on disc as 480i.

For film based content, the two interlaced half frames making up each frame represent the same instant in time (i.e., the both come from a single frame of the film stock), so it is easy to put them back together for 480p. But the film frame rate has to be raised to the video frame rate for output and this is done by repeating pieces of the film at slightly varying rates. The pieces that are repeated are the interlaced half frames. Which means even though film stock is inherently "progressive", the video still has to get ripped apart and treated as interlaced.

For TV based content, the two interlaced half frames making up each frame represent slightly different points in time. They come together to make a slightly motion blurred double exposure. But the interlaced half frames don't need any repeat cadence.

Choose your poison.

This is further complicated by the fact that the color data on the disc has only half the vertical and horizontal color resolution of the gray scale data, which makes it tricky to decide which color to apply to each pixel as you are de-interlacing things -- particularly when you discover the best answer to this is different depending on whether the scene is film rate or video rate.

So either way, de-interlacing is a challenge.

It is even more of a challenge when you realize that many commercial discs actually have a mix of scenes done at film rate and video rate -- often with bad flags identifying all this stuff. This is due to using computer editing suites that massage the original film but at video rates. Which means modern de-interlacing relies on analyzing the stream of interlaced half-frames to try to figure out, after the fact, what is really going on so as to apply the best de-interlacing method. And "bad edits" often screw up the repeat cadence used to raise the film frame rate to video frame rate, and they too need to be detected and recovered from.

DVDs like the Joe Kane stuff that say they are 480p actually mean they are using video equipment like it was film equipment. Adjacent fields are from the same point in time.

The idea of using 480i output from the player is so that you can do the de-interlacing in an external processor that hopefully has more intelligence and does it better. Like the D2.
--Bob
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post #16428 of 40739
10/8/08 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

No. Standard DVDs are on disc as 480i.

For film based content, the two interlaced half frames making up each frame represent the same instant in time (i.e., the both come from a single frame of the film stock), so it is easy to put them back together for 480p. But the film frame rate has to be raised to the video frame rate for output and this is done by repeating pieces of the film at slightly varying rates. The pieces that are repeated are the interlaced half frames. Which means even though film stock is inherently "progressive", the video still has to get ripped apart and treated as interlaced.

For TV based content, the two interlaced half frames making up each frame represent slightly different points in time. They come together to make a slightly motion blurred double exposure. But the interlaced half frames don't need any repeat cadence.

Choose your poison.

This is further complicated by the fact that the color data on the disc has only half the vertical and horizontal color resolution of the gray scale data, which makes it tricky to decide which color to apply to each pixel as you are de-interlacing things -- particularly when you discover the best answer to this is different depending on whether the scene is film rate or video rate.

So either way, de-interlacing is a challenge.

It is even more of a challenge when you realize that many commercial discs actually have a mix of scenes done at film rate and video rate -- often with bad flags identifying all this stuff. This is due to using computer editing suites that massage the original film but at video rates. Which means modern de-interlacing relies on analyzing the stream of interlaced half-frames to try to figure out, after the fact, what is really going on so as to apply the best de-interlacing method. And "bad edits" often screw up the repeat cadence used to raise the film frame rate to video frame rate, and they too need to be detected and recovered from.

DVDs like the Joe Kane stuff that say they are 480p actually mean they are using video equipment like it was film equipment. Adjacent fields are from the same point in time.

The idea of using 480i output from the player is so that you can do the de-interlacing in an external processor that hopefully has more intelligence and does it better. Like the D2.
--Bob

Thats very interesting. I had always read that DVD's were 480p.
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post #16429 of 40739
10/8/08 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by jlwine View Post

Thats very interesting. I had always read that DVD's were 480p.

Nope.

You need to think back. The DVD spec was created before any 480p TVs existed for the home market. Composite video and S-video are only 480i, as are the RF-modulated outputs (e.g., Channel 3).

The first "progressive" DVD players were godawful at de-interlacing the content off disc. So bad that most buyers ended up turning off the "progressive" feature since the results looked better on their CRT TVs with it turned off -- particularly when they used 480i S-video from the player to a TV that had that input but no Component inputs.

[However, those "progressive" players came with COMPONENT video outputs which made them look even better -- even when only used as older, traditional, non-progressive, 480i players when connected to the newest consumer TVs with Component video inputs.]

DVDs include flags which are supposed to make it EASY for "progressive" DVD players to de-interlace the content -- particularly for film content. The idea was that the "progressive" players could do a better job because they could depend on the flags -- flags which the TV never got to see. This was back before it was anywhere near practical to put the kind of processing power into a marketably priced DVD player to actually analyze the video stream and do de-interlacing based on the real content.

The problem was, and is, that bogus flags and bad edits mean that flag based de-interlacing was virtually guaranteed to produce very visible glitches. That's why it was better to turn that off and let de-interlacing "just happen" in the CRT TVs without regard to whether the original content was film or video based. And even if the flags and edits didn't get you, the poor implementation in the "progressive" players -- CUE problems being the most notable -- invariably did.

It's only relatively recently that the kind of processing power necessary to do de-interlacing by actually analyzing the real video stream has been available cheaply enough to include in players. More powerful processing systems like that are still the realm of advanced video processors like the D2.
--Bob
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post #16430 of 40739
10/8/08 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Nope.

You need to think back. The DVD spec was created before any 480p TVs existed for the home market. Composite video and S-video are only 480i, as are the RF-modulated outputs (e.g., Channel 3).
--Bob

Yeah, it certainly makes sense when you think about it. Are you sure about S-Video? I thought you could send progressive scan over it.

In the addition to the OPPO some are talking about, do you know if most other Blu-Ray players offer 480i over HDMI?
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post #16431 of 40739
10/8/08 at 1:53pm
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I call BS on that, sorry, but there's nothing you can do to the disc itself to improve the quality of the content on it. It's a digital file, it's either read right or not.

Yes, it is digital data, however, CD audio is read differently (during real time playback) under the Red Book spec than a computer would read a data disc: In the case of a data CD-ROM, error correction ensures perfect data transfer. CD audio players do not have to employ any error correction (most don't), and dropouts ranging from imperceptible to total, can result. A computer or media server would eliminate this variable, which might actually be a non-issue in practice.

That said, I don't think this special plastic would make much of a difference.
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post #16432 of 40739
10/8/08 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by jlwine View Post

Yeah, it certainly makes sense when you think about it. Are you sure about S-Video? I thought you could send progressive scan over it.

In the addition to the OPPO some are talking about, do you know if most other Blu-Ray players offer 480i over HDMI?

Nope. S-video is only 480i (or 576i in PAL markets). See the first paragraph of this Wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-video

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HDMI 480i is an odd beastie. The audio signal for HDMI is embedded in the blanking intervals of the video signal which means the available audio bandwidth is a function of the video bandwidth (resolution) currently being used.

And what you need for common audio is the bandwidth of a 480p signal.

So for this reason, and other technical reasons, HDMI 480i is implemented by doubling the pixels on each line for output (and stripping them away at the other end) to fake the higher bandwidth.

In addition there's a lack of standardization of how black levels are supposed to be handled for HDMI 480i. This all dates back to the DVI spec for computer monitors that later became HDMI with the addition of audio and copy protection, etc.

The upshot is that some manufacturers of HDMI chips punt the whole issue and just refuse to handle HDMI 480i.

So no, not all HDMI players will output HDMI 480i. For example the PS3 doesn't output HDMI 480i. Better players *SHOULD* output it, though, particularly for folks who want to use external video processors during SD-DVD playback.
--Bob
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post #16433 of 40739
10/8/08 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

There's definitely no USB port in the D2 v.2 or AVM-50 v.2.

Give Anthem a call and see if they can help you with finding a dealer. If they've no longer got a dealer for your area, maybe they can offer some other means to get ARC hardware installed in your AVM-50 (e.g., installing it yourself).
But it is still probably a good idea to find and get to know your new Anthem dealer since that's your best bet for getting info on the v.2 products and deciding the best way to go from what you have now to a v.2.
--Bob

My local dealer is still an Anthem dealer... on paper. When I went in asking about ARC, he said, "I haven't done anything with Anthem in a long time." Then when I asked about any plans in the future, he showed no interest at all.
They do carry a lot of high end gear, and they love Paradigm speakers. Oh well. I'll find something.
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post #16434 of 40739
10/8/08 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

As Tolstoi says, to re-install the ARC application, first uninstall it using Windows' Add/Remove Programs feature. Uninstalling it should still leave your pair of licensing and calibration files in place, so you should not need to manually copy them to the installation folder after you do the new install of ARC v1.2.5.

That said, I doubt your problem is in the ARC application itself, but either in the AVM-50 or in your serial connection to the AVM-50.

Since this setup has worked before for you for ARC, I think it would be a good idea for you to give Anthem tech support a call and let them work the problem with you. The Upload of ARC stuff should not just hang like that even if you are having serial connection problems. It would require the serial connection to slow way down without actually failing, which is unusual.

As is often the case with Windows, sometimes just rebooting the machine is a way to cure odd system issues.
--Bob

Bob:

Nick got my upload problem fixed up. It was a matter of removing the old software and loading on the new. The only thing I really had to be aware of is relocating the serial files.

Thanks
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post #16435 of 40739
10/8/08 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by Axatax View Post

Yes, it is digital data, however, CD audio is read differently (during real time playback) under the Red Book spec than a computer would read a data disc: In the case of a data CD-ROM, error correction ensures perfect data transfer. CD audio players do not have to employ any error correction (most don't), and dropouts ranging from imperceptible to total, can result. A computer or media server would eliminate this variable, which might actually be a non-issue in practice.

That said, I don't think this special plastic would make much of a difference.

Incorrect that CD-Audio discs don't use error correction - they do:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed%E2...ror_correction

For this reason, I'm skeptical of anything that 'improves' the readability of a disc having an audible effect unless the error correction is being overwhelmed constantly.
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post #16436 of 40739
10/8/08 at 3:45pm
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Originally Posted by aus View Post

My local dealer is still an Anthem dealer... on paper. When I went in asking about ARC, he said, "I haven't done anything with Anthem in a long time." Then when I asked about any plans in the future, he showed no interest at all.
They do carry a lot of high end gear, and they love Paradigm speakers. Oh well. I'll find something.

Email Anthem about this. The only dealer with a showroom in the Seattle area stopped being an Anthem dealer last year. Nearest dealer showed as being in the next state (Oregon) - a three hour drive each way.

But Anthem let me know about 3 local custom installation dealers. They don't maintain showrooms, but can handle warranty and upgrade issues just fine.
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post #16437 of 40739
10/8/08 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by bluemark81 View Post

Bob:

Nick got my upload problem fixed up. It was a matter of removing the old software and loading on the new. The only thing I really had to be aware of is relocating the serial files.

Thanks

Great! Now if I can just convince Anthem to move this stuff to Mac computers so we don't have to futz with Windows issues....


--Bob
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10/8/08 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Nope. S-video is only 480i (or 576i in PAL markets). See the first paragraph of this Wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-video

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HDMI 480i is an odd beastie. The audio signal for HDMI is embedded in the blanking intervals of the video signal which means the available audio bandwidth is a function of the video bandwidth (resolution) currently being used.

And what you need for common audio is the bandwidth of a 480p signal.

So for this reason, and other technical reasons, HDMI 480i is implemented by doubling the pixels on each line for output (and stripping them away at the other end) to fake the higher bandwidth.

In addition there's a lack of standardization of how black levels are supposed to be handled for HDMI 480i. This all dates back to the DVI spec for computer monitors that later became HDMI with the addition of audio and copy protection, etc.

The upshot is that some manufacturers of HDMI chips punt the whole issue and just refuse to handle HDMI 480i.

So no, not all HDMI players will output HDMI 480i. For example the PS3 doesn't output HDMI 480i. Better players *SHOULD* output it, though, particularly for folks who want to use external video processors during SD-DVD playback.
--Bob


Hey I have much more trust in you then wikipedia. Here is what they said about my first question that led me astray: "DVDs use 480i when high motion is desired, but for movies 24 progressive frames per second (480p) are used instead. The 480i resolution is used in most standard-definition TVs." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/480i.
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post #16439 of 40739
10/8/08 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by gdc View Post

Email Anthem about this. The only dealer with a showroom in the Seattle area stopped being an Anthem dealer last year. Nearest dealer showed as being in the next state (Oregon) - a three hour drive each way.

But Anthem let me know about 3 local custom installation dealers. They don't maintain showrooms, but can handle warranty and upgrade issues just fine.

Good suggestion! You can also lookup the custom installation dealers on-line at the Anthem site:

http://statement.anthemav.com/HTML/D...ealerHome.html

Just use the custom dealer part of the search page these buttons bring up.

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By the way, sometimes having your "local" dealer be across the state line is a good thing. If they ship the product to you, or meet you at the border to hand it to you, they often don't have to charge sales tax. If you don't actually need to go to the showroom to see the product, this can work out pretty well.
--Bob
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10/8/08 at 4:40pm
Thanks for the recommendations on the dealers!
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