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post #2041 of 42687
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I've finally completed the bass EQ with the Velodyne DD-15 in my setup. Between the DD-15 features and the Anthem D2 features there are many ways to solve problems in the bass arena, and it can literally take weeks working through the possibilities and doing critical listening.

--Bob

Bob,

Your work with the D2 Bass EQ and the Velodyne DD15 is, for all intents and purposes, Priceless. With my D2 and Ruby wrapped up, tucked away in a safe room while I complete my theater renovation, I felt like the A/V life in me had been drained away....Until a post like this comes along and I am re-energized to get-er-done.

Thanks!
post #2042 of 42687
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

Are you sure the component output isn't down rez'ed to 480P?

To be clear, the Zone 2 Component out is set to the Option that allows it to be a true, independent zone, which means the scaler/deinterlacer is not at work for this connection. Now, having said that, if I pass 1080i on protected material from my Tivo Series 3 to the D2, the Main Zone will display the 1080i of course, and the D2 will gladly pass along the 1080i for Zone 2 over Component to the bedroom. In other words, it will send along exactly what it is fed, no scaling, no deinterlacing for Zone 2. I just re-confirmed this this evening with some procted content from the Universal HD channel on Comcast.

I would test this with my Pioneer DV-79avi as well, but the only output from the Pio that allows for 1080i output is the HDMI, which is used by the D2 only for Zone 1. So, when I output 1080i via HDMI for Zone 1, the Component connections between Pio and D2 are sending 480p, simply because the Pio can only send 480i or 480p over Component, the other resolutions are reserved for HDMI. Of course, my normal mode of operation is just to send 480i over HDMI to the D2 and let it do the scaling/deinterlacing. By the way, an interesting feature of the Pio is that it can send 480i over HDMI at the same time it is sending 480p over Component. Since Zone 2 cannot be scaled/deinterlaced anyway if using Option 3 as I am, it is really nice to at least have a progressive output for the second zone. But again, the limitation in the case of this DVD player is a function of that player, not of any copy protection the D2 is doing.
post #2043 of 42687
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Originally Posted by rudolpht View Post

Bob,


How in the world :

OK, I'm watching in HiDef with cable connected direct to the Series 3 TIVO, and even though the Anthem says HDCP connection needed... it's working on Component.

I bow to you Master Bob,
Tim

Bingo gents! That's exactly the setting I've been using since day one with the Series 3, so I guess that's why it's always worked! Dumb luck on my part, but ya gotta love it when stuff just works sometimes.

-Brian
post #2044 of 42687
So, I just got the XBox 360 HD-DVD player add-on, short money and I thought I'd start there in terms of dipping my toes into the HD-DVD world. It came with a copy of King Kong. Just thought I'd share my initial impressions of HD-DVD via the XBox anyway.

There's no question that the Kong transfer is beautifully done. The movie looked absolutely stunning. The audio quality was great as well, with all of Kong's snorting sounding perfect with just enough LFE alongside it to make my eyes water.

Now here comes the but....

But...I have to say, I am able to get very close if not the same level of video quality out of a very good DVD, for instance, the SuperBit version of Fifth Element, when processed thru the D2/Gennum. It's early, and these are first impressions for sure, maybe more analysis will change my mind. But so far, though the Kong HD-DVD was flawless, I have seen just as good with various DVD's in my collection. Oh, another one that would equal it is Master and Commander, or Corpse Bride. Hopefully, I'll be able to A/B test soon with something I already own on DVD, perhaps Batman Returns, I hear there's an HD-DVD version of that.

Not sure what any of you would say about your HD-DVD experience thus far, but this experience has given me an even greater respect for what the Gennum is doing to my 480i DVD's to make them seriously rival the look of HD-DVD. I expected for some reason that I'd be more blown away by HD-DVD, and so far, it just isn't the case. So, I guess I'm really glad I didn't spend more than the $199 MSRP that the 360 drive costs, at least at this point.

FWIW, the XBox interface for the drive is really nifty, works like a charm, very intuitive, and very stable performance, no weirdness a la the reports from the early firmware of the Toshiba player, etc. This from a guy who gets great satisfaction normally in seeing Microsoft come up short :-)

Thought I'd just share this in case anyone is curious.

Cheers,
Brian
post #2045 of 42687
As good as some standard DVDs look I have to say my worse HD DVD looks better then any of my best standard DVDs. Maybe it is due to using the analog video on the Xbox? To be pefectly honest I think my DVD video experience with the D2 may a tad less then what I was getting with my HDLeeza and SDI mod'ed player. What are you using for a display Brian?
post #2046 of 42687
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

As good as some standard DVDs look I have to say my worse HD DVD looks better then any of my best standard DVDs. Maybe it is due to using the analog video on the Xbox? To be pefectly honest I think my DVD video experience with the D2 may a tad less then what I was getting with my HDLeeza and SDI mod'ed player. What are you using for a display Brian?

I've got a 70 inch Sony Qualia 006. I had Jeff Maier calibrate it to within an inch of its life earlier this year. I've been VERY happy with the results. He calibrated the HDMI inputs of course, as those were most important, and he also calibrated the Component inputs as well. Of course, the 360 is using the Component in, as you mention. In other words, the video from the XBox is not connected through the D2, it is the only source component that is not. Only the digital and analog audio are connected to the D2. I did this for reasons of wanting to use PIP on the Qualia during certain lengthy baseball games, e.g. I play certain XBox games with less moving action using PIP, like Texas Hold Em online (it's a serious addiction!).

Perhaps it's a combination of the XBox being limited to Component for now, not HDMI, and the fact that the HD-DVD video is not being routed thru the D2. I also need to evaluate more content, and really do A/B testing to see the differences.

Good thing winter is coming! Plenty of excuses to hang out on the couch drinking egg nog, enjoying the "Plan".

Thanks for the input, definitely interesting to hear other people's experiences.

-Brian
post #2047 of 42687
Brian,
The XBOX add on is new, and may very well have come with some factory installed problems as was the case with the early Toshiba player and the first Blue Ray players.

Keep an eye on the HD-DVD player forum here for reports from folks who really know how to test this stuff.

The D2 is good, but PROPER HD should look better than D2 scaled DVD. [EXCEPTION: Some broadcast HD movies are actually just scaled up from DVD masters since they don't actually have an HD master.]

The sort of thing I'm talking about is a player mistakenly lowering the HD content to 540p (discarding resolution) on the way to outputing your selected high def resolution. This is what the early Toshiba did, for example, if you told it to output 720p.
--Bob
post #2048 of 42687
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Originally Posted by ManWithAPlan View Post

Bingo gents! That's exactly the setting I've been using since day one with the Series 3, so I guess that's why it's always worked! Dumb luck on my part, but ya gotta love it when stuff just works sometimes.

-Brian

Brian,

My bad in using the defaults. I was having trouble going direct but it sounds like you can do it routed through the D2, so that's my next try.

Tim
post #2049 of 42687
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Originally Posted by rudolpht View Post

Brian,

My bad in using the defaults. I was having trouble going direct but it sounds like you can do it routed through the D2, so that's my next try.

Tim

Brian,

Ok, still issues, are you routing the HD Tivo into the D2 via Component vs HDMI?

Tim
post #2050 of 42687
Tim,
I haven't actually tried this, but this is how it should work.

Run HDMI from the Tivo S3 to, say, HDMI1 input on the D2.

Run Component from the Tivo S3 to, say, COMPONENT1 input on the D2.

Choose a D2 SSP (Source Signal Path) for viewing Tivo, say "TV"

Go into the D2 Setup / Source Selection screen and go to TV.

Set HDMI1 as the Scaler input for that SSP

Set HDMI Repeater = NO

*ALSO* set COMPONENT1 as the Component input for that SSP.

Finally set the Zone2 output to use a separately selectable input from the Main input.

Back out of the Setup screens.

Your main screen should be connected to the D2 HDMI output and the D2's Video Output settings should be set as best for viewing on your main screen.

Your secondary screen should be connected to the D2 Zone2 Component output.

To view Tivo on the main screen, select the D2 Main Path (the buttons near the top of the remote) and then select the TV SSP (the buttons near the bottom of the remote).

HDMI from the Tivo will be scaled and sent out the D2's HDMI output to your main screen.

To view Tivo on the secondary screen, select the Zone2 Path on the D2 and then, once again, select the TV SSP.

Since there is no HDMI on the Zone2 output, and since HDMI repeater has been set to "NO", the D2 should generate a good HDCP handshake to the Tivo whether or not your main screen happens to be turned on. The Tivo, now having a good HDMI handshake, will send out data on both HDMI and Component, and the D2 will pass through the Component (unprocessed) to the Zone2 Component output and thus to your secondary screen.

At least I *THINK* this is how it should work.

The alternative would be to use 2 different D2 SSPs and have the HDMI setup on one of them and the non-scaled Component setup on the other for use by Zone2.
--Bob
post #2051 of 42687
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Tim,
I haven't actually tried this, but this is how it should work.

Run HDMI from the Tivo S3 to, say, HDMI1 input on the D2.

Run Component from the Tivo S3 to, say, COMPONENT1 input on the D2.

Choose a D2 SSP (Source Signal Path) for viewing Tivo, say "TV"

Go into the D2 Setup / Source Selection screen and go to TV.

Set HDMI1 as the Scaler input for that SSP

Set HDMI Repeater = NO

*ALSO* set COMPONENT1 as the Component input for that SSP.

Finally set the Zone2 output to use a separately selectable input from the Main input.

Back out of the Setup screens.

Your main screen should be connected to the D2 HDMI output and the D2's Video Output settings should be set as best for viewing on your main screen.

Your secondary screen should be connected to the D2 Zone2 Component output.

To view Tivo on the main screen, select the D2 Main Path (the buttons near the top of the remote) and then select the TV SSP (the buttons near the bottom of the remote).

HDMI from the Tivo will be scaled and sent out the D2's HDMI output to your main screen.

To view Tivo on the secondary screen, select the Zone2 Path on the D2 and then, once again, select the TV SSP.

Since there is no HDMI on the Zone2 output, and since HDMI repeater has been set to "NO", the D2 should generate a good HDCP handshake to the Tivo whether or not your main screen happens to be turned on. The Tivo, now having a good HDMI handshake, will send out data on both HDMI and Component, and the D2 will pass through the Component (unprocessed) to the Zone2 Component output and thus to your secondary screen.

At least I *THINK* this is how it should work.

The alternative would be to use 2 different D2 SSPs and have the HDMI setup on one of them and the non-scaled Component setup on the other for use by Zone2.
--Bob

This recipe is exactly correct and has been working flawlessly for me since the day I got the Series 3. The way all my sources are set up in fact. I am a cable salesman's best friend, as I literally have to run every video output, and both analog and digital audio from every source to the D2, in order to have truly independent switching of sources in Zones 2 and 3 and Record. The cabling of this was a ton of fun for sure, but I am reaping the rewards each day.

Let me know how you make out Tim.

-Brian
post #2052 of 42687
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Tim,
I haven't actually tried this, but this is how it should work.

Run HDMI from the Tivo S3 to, say, HDMI1 input on the D2.

Run Component from the Tivo S3 to, say, COMPONENT1 input on the D2.

Choose a D2 SSP (Source Signal Path) for viewing Tivo, say "TV"

Go into the D2 Setup / Source Selection screen and go to TV.

Set HDMI1 as the Scaler input for that SSP

Set HDMI Repeater = NO

*ALSO* set COMPONENT1 as the Component input for that SSP.

Finally set the Zone2 output to use a separately selectable input from the Main input.

Back out of the Setup screens.

Your main screen should be connected to the D2 HDMI output and the D2's Video Output settings should be set as best for viewing on your main screen.

Your secondary screen should be connected to the D2 Zone2 Component output.

To view Tivo on the main screen, select the D2 Main Path (the buttons near the top of the remote) and then select the TV SSP (the buttons near the bottom of the remote).

HDMI from the Tivo will be scaled and sent out the D2's HDMI output to your main screen.

To view Tivo on the secondary screen, select the Zone2 Path on the D2 and then, once again, select the TV SSP.

Since there is no HDMI on the Zone2 output, and since HDMI repeater has been set to "NO", the D2 should generate a good HDCP handshake to the Tivo whether or not your main screen happens to be turned on. The Tivo, now having a good HDMI handshake, will send out data on both HDMI and Component, and the D2 will pass through the Component (unprocessed) to the Zone2 Component output and thus to your secondary screen.

At least I *THINK* this is how it should work.

The alternative would be to use 2 different D2 SSPs and have the HDMI setup on one of them and the non-scaled Component setup on the other for use by Zone2.
--Bob


OK, getting closer, my mistake is thinking I was just mirroring the HDMI via component.

If I have to set up a second zone (a feature I have never used on a bunch of pre-amps, do I get the same speakers to work as the HDMI out? This would be a show stopper if I need another set of speakers for the LCD (Zone 2), and I definitely don't want to go from a 7.1 system to a 5.1 +2 (for Zone 2). in other words, can I set the Zone 2 speakers = Zone 1 speakers?

Here's what I do have working, always hot component outs on the TIVO with the HDMI Repeater = NO, but it is the only source I get on my LCD, which is probably OK, unless as I typically only watch news or the occasional sitcom, and I watch DVDs, HD DVDs, Blu-Ray, D-VHS, on Projector anyways.

It's humbling to go back to school

Thanks Brian too.
post #2053 of 42687
Tim,
Try this:

Cable and configure as described above.

But now set Zone2 output to be UNPROCESSED pass through of Main input.

Now control everything via the Main path (just as if you only had one screen).

I believe that will do what you want -- e.g. viewing on either the main or secondary screen, but audio always processed out to the main speakers setup.

EDITED TO ADD: You should be able to extend this to any source that is Component input into the scaler for Main, or that (like the Tivo S3) is willing to output both on HDMI and Component at the same time.
--Bob
post #2054 of 42687
Hi,

I am interested in demoing a D2. I live in New Jersey near NYC. Can anyone recommend a good dealer in the NYC metro area who also preferably carries Sony product? I am looking to demo the D2 with a Sony 46V2500 LCD panel. I tried the anthemav website, and they only list three dealers near me. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks for the help.
post #2055 of 42687
gsysak,
There were complaints in the D2 related threads earlier this year that the Anthem dealer setup around NYC was pretty weak (not many, and not very good). That may have changed by now and I suppose others will post if they know of any good ones.

But you might need to go further afield.

For example, there's a full service dealer in Cherry Hill, NJ, that seems pretty reasonable. You can look them up on the Anthem site.

And before you say it, yes it is pretty lame that Anthem has any trouble at all getting top quality dealer support in and near NYC.
--Bob
post #2056 of 42687
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Originally Posted by gsysak View Post

Hi,

I am interested in demoing a D2. I live in New Jersey near NYC. Can anyone recommend a good dealer in the NYC metro area who also preferably carries Sony product? I am looking to demo the D2 with a Sony 46V2500 LCD panel. I tried the anthemav website, and they only list three dealers near me. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks for the help.

6th Avenue Electronics has a number of stores in the NJ area and one in Long Island, NY. I was just in the Paramus, NJ store a couple of weeks ago, and they have the D2 on display (connected to Paradigm Signature speakers and a Sony Ruby!). 6th Avenue is an Anthem dealer.
post #2057 of 42687
For those looking to double check the video calibration of your cable or satellite set top box, and particularly for those with an HD DVR of one sort or another:

1) HDNET broadcasts 15 minutes of test patterns periodically -- usually very early on Tuesday mornings.

2) INHD broadcasts test patterns about every couple weeks. Look for "Tune Up" or "INHD Tune Up".

3) There is also a program called "Bars and Tones" which is supposed to broadcast SMTPE test charts. So far I've only found this on SDTV.

---------------------------------------------------------------

If anyone knows of any other broadcast calibration charts, I'd appreciate hearing about them.
--Bob
post #2058 of 42687
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Tim,
Try this:

Cable and configure as described above.

But now set Zone2 output to be UNPROCESSED pass through of Main input.

Now control everything via the Main path (just as if you only had one screen).

I believe that will do what you want -- e.g. viewing on either the main or secondary screen, but audio always processed out to the main speakers setup.

EDITED TO ADD: You should be able to extend this to any source that is Component input into the scaler for Main, or that (like the Tivo S3) is willing to output both on HDMI and Component at the same time.
--Bob

Bob,

Thanks again. I'll give it a go. This is probably what Brian said for his setup originally & I was too thick to understand.

If there is a quick button press to change the SSP video source input from HDMI 3 to Component 3, I can get away without setting up a redundant device. (I'm out of devices)?

Tim

If the Series 3 had a firewire output it would be just about the perfect HD device.
post #2059 of 42687
Tim,
You don't have to change from HDMI3 to Component3 on the fly.

When you set Zone2 to be the unprocessed version of the Main input it will automatically pass through Component3 to the Zone2 Component output whenever you select that SSP.

Meanwhile HDMI3 will be passed to the scaler and the result will go out the Main output.

Again, this is why you set up the SSP with HDMI3 as the Scaler input AND ALSO specify Component3 as the Component input.
--Bob
post #2060 of 42687
Well the new 1.17 update is being released in the next two to three days, with custom resolutions. I was complaining about the new Pioneer and NEC 1365x768 resolution not being available and was told it's no longer an issue with this new upgrade.
post #2061 of 42687
Is there a fix with 1.17 for your set turning green when going from hd to non-hd?
post #2062 of 42687
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher View Post

What plate cooler did you add?

dc


IMG http://www.smarthome.com/images/8734ci2side.jpg

I love it

http://www.smarthome.com/8734c.html
post #2063 of 42687
After reading through the manual I have a question about the bass management in the D2.

7channel setup
Front speakers set to large
Center spkr set to small- 80 hz crossover
Rear and Surround speakers set to small- 80hz crossover
Sub-Yes and set to "1 sub".. not super
Bypass LFE Crossover set to yes

Please confirm what the manual seems to indicate:
Front speakers receive full bandwidth-no redirected bass, no LFE bass
Center, Surrounds, Rear speakers receive above the 80hz high pass
Subwoofer receives redirected bass from Center, Surrounds, Rears below the 80HZ low pass and all fo the full bandwidth LFE bass.

With 2 channel sound what cues does anthem's proprietary audio modes (Anthem Music and Anthem Cinema) use to create the additional 2 channels in a 7 channel configuration?
post #2064 of 42687

So your D2 sits on top of the cooler, correct?

dc
post #2065 of 42687
Its the avm-50 but yes it sits right on top.. You cant hear anyting and it works great
post #2066 of 42687
Has anyone heard when the next firmware upgrade for the D2 is happening? Do we think it will read/display properly the 2 new HD tracks (DD True HD/DTS-HD)?
/\\/\\
post #2067 of 42687
Rumor is firmware imminently...

D2 won't ever display the True HD/DTS HD/DTS MA decodes.. it doesn't decode them, just accepts them as LPCM.
post #2068 of 42687
If you mean decode the new HD Codecs (DD True HD/DTS-HD) then no as that will take a hardware upgrade to HDMI 1.3. The real question is why do you feel you would want to decode them in the D2 when all the players are dong the decoding and transmitting it just fine to the D2 today?
post #2069 of 42687
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

If you mean decode the new HD Codecs (DD True HD/DTS-HD) then no as that will take a hardware upgrade to HDMI 1.3. The real question is why do you feel you would want to decode them in the D2 when all the players are dong the decoding and transmitting it just fine to the D2 today?


It is difficult to tell what signal is coming through - I see the high bit rates so I guess I just have to assume...
post #2070 of 42687
Assuming you are talking about the Toshba you can hit the players display button and it will tell you what it is using.
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