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post #2071 of 42682
New software (V 1.10) is available for download for the AVM50 http://www.anthemav.com/NewSitev2.0/...Downloads.html

And for the D2 http://statement.anthemav.com/HTML/P...e/Upgrade.html

This update appears to fix many issues as well as add new features to the Scaler.

I'm anxious to install the update tonight.

Remember guys, make sure all HDMI devices are off, including the display.


Mark
post #2072 of 42682
thanks for the information !!
post #2073 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The D2 has only one HDMI output.
The Zone2 Component output can be set to 1 of 3 uses:

1) Duplicate the Main Component output (i.e., processed output of the Main path's selected video input).

2) Show an UNprocessed version of the Main path's selected video input -- this is just a pass through of the input to the output.

3) Show an UNprocessed version of a different video input selected for the Zone2 path while the Main output(s) continue to show the Main path's selected video input (processed).

OK guys (Bob & Brian), I'm still dead in the water.

I have tried all three methods and I'm still not getting video over component unless I bypass the Anthem completely.

I have tried the mirroring using component out 1 & 2
Component 2 in all it's states (Processed, Unprocessed, Zone 2).

Now I get Cable (moto box) on component 2 input out on either Component out 1 &2 and it works fine.

My monitor does 1920x1080/60, the same as my projection so I know it's not the monitor side (it can take processed or unprocessed from the cable input (I like to leave it unprocessed).

At wits end (this should be simple).
post #2074 of 42682
CHANGE LIST

v1.10:

For changes to operating instructions, see pdf file. Note that as of this version, video source adjustments cannot be made if the selected source has no video input.

1. Added gamma correction (through Live Video Settings Editor).

2. Added custom output resolution and timing (through Live Video Settings Editor).

3. Added frame lock.

4. Added multiple input memory.

5. Reduced number of color space conversions. Note that because of this, if input is RGB and output is RGB, Brightness / Contrast / Color / Tint adjustments can no longer be made - simply set your source to YCbCr output instead of RGB if adjustment is necessary.

6. Added colon ( to character set for renaming sources.

7. Increased HDMI compatibility yet again. Known problems are very few at this time. If you are experiencing problems, ensure that all connected equipment has latest drivers installed before contacting tech support (you might need to contact your cable/sat company).

If you need to contact Anthem tech support regarding connectivity from a computer's video output, please provide details including operating system, build of operating system, microprocessor, video card model, software, version of software, and settings. If your computer provides EDID status, that would greatly help as well.
post #2075 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by yatchaks View Post

New software (V 1.10) is available for download for the AVM50 http://www.anthemav.com/NewSitev2.0/...Downloads.html

And for the D2 http://statement.anthemav.com/HTML/P...e/Upgrade.html

This update appears to fix many issues as well as add new features to the Scaler.

I'm anxious to install the update tonight.

Remember guys, make sure all HDMI devices are off, including the display.


Mark


Mark,

Great, & thanks for including the links. Very helpful (easy).

My upgrade took first try.
post #2076 of 42682
In terms of features, the top of my list is output multiples of 24hz for film sources and 30 for video. Manually changing the output resolution for HD-DVD is a little kludgy.

If you have HD-DVD and send 1080i from a Toshiba A1 to the D2, will it deinterlace it properly to 1080p24sf? Would outputting 720p/78 then remove judder? Just making sure i understand it all correctly...
post #2077 of 42682
Same thing, I just cant get it to update..

I get errors
gf9350 osd

error
0x33394647
post #2078 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by budeone View Post

Same thing, I just cant get it to update..

I get errors
gf9350 osd

error
0x33394647

Just a reminder... turn off all devices that it is connected to or connects to (TV, DVD, Sat...) while updating...
post #2079 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

Just a reminder... turn off all devices that it is connected to or connects to (TV, DVD, Sat...) while updating...

And stay away from USB <> Serial converters.
post #2080 of 42682
After hours, I just reinstalled the 1.07 beta back in.
post #2081 of 42682
I do think you have a problem with the serial cable your using. I had the same errors (a few months back) before replacing it with a DB9 cable I bought from radioshack http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search They do carry the cable in store as well.


I no longer have issues, always takes first try.

EDIT: I'm not at home now to make sure it is M/F. I hate to have someone buy what I link and a M/M or F/F cable is needed instead. Can someone verify?
post #2082 of 42682
I need a USB to Serial cable.. I bought a trendnet from amazon.

Why would it work with the 1.07 and not the 1.10?
post #2083 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by budeone View Post

I need a USB to Serial cable.. I bought a trendnet from amazon.

Why would it work with the 1.07 and not the 1.10?


USB/Serial adapters can be flakey. If I recall, you were having a problem with a past software update? I could be wrong. If so, are you using the same adapter?

Is the cable Windows certified? Anthem says this is a requirement. You may want to buy another brand but return it if gives you the same problem.

Another thing to try...make sure your cable has the latest drivers installed.

For what it's worth, I no longer have the green screen issues with v1.10.

Mark
post #2084 of 42682
There are two on that page

http://www.radioshack.com/search/ind...igkw=db9%20usb

They look the same just $10.00 diff..

Yes, I was having a problem before then 1.07 goes in fine after just 2 tries.

I will get a new cable today...

Did you unscrew the little headers off the Anthem so the cable will go in?

Or did you take them off the cable?
post #2085 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by budeone View Post

There are two on that page

http://www.radioshack.com/search/ind...igkw=db9%20usb

They look the same just $10.00 diff..

Yes, I was having a problem before then 1.07 goes in fine after just 2 tries.

I will get a new cable today...

Did you unscrew the little headers off the Anthem so the cable will go in?

Or did you take them off the cable?

Appears to be two diff manufactures. Either one should work.

I don't recall unscrewing anything from the RS232 port.
post #2086 of 42682
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Expletive View Post

In terms of features, the top of my list is output multiples of 24hz for film sources and 30 for video. Manually changing the output resolution for HD-DVD is a little kludgy.

If you have HD-DVD and send 1080i from a Toshiba A1 to the D2, will it deinterlace it properly to 1080p24? Would outputting 720p/72 then remove judder? Just making sure i understand it all correctly...

Yes, with 1.10, you can do this now. There is a new "frame lock" feature that will be REALLY useful for Sony Pearl/Ruby users and those with projectors that can accept 1080p24/48/72. Smoother, w/o judder.

With Live Video Settings Editor, you can choose any refresh rates you want now, or any custom resolution that your display can support.

A really useful and rare feature. The D2 scaler is now up there features wise with the best high-end scalers out there.

-Custom resolutions
-Multiple per-input memory banks (DVD1,2,3,4 TV1,2,3,4 Sat1,2)
-Custom gamma curves
-Frame lock
-New test patterns

This on top of true multi-ch LPCM over HDMI. Everything we need for Blu-ray and HD-DVD.
post #2087 of 42682
For Mac users:

I upgraded to firmware 1.10 without a hitch using a MacBook, Boot Camp with Windows XP Home, and a Keyspan USB - serial adapter. I made sure that I had the latest versions of OS X and Boot Camp and installed the latest Keyspan driver from their Web site.

Although I received a message that the Keyspan was not Windows-certified, I went ahead and had no problems. I have used the same adapter twice previously with a Windows laptop without any problems.

C.
post #2088 of 42682
I'm travelling so it's going to be a while before I can test V1.10, but one thing already alarms me.

The Pioneer Elite DV-59avi DVD player only sends RGB via HDMI. There is no option for YCbCr.

My Fujitsu plasma is a DVI device so it only accepts RGB via the HDMI to DVI cable.

If I understand the change list correctly, this means I can no longer do Brightness and Contrast adjustments on the D2 input menu for the 59avi.

The V1.06 upgrade lost me the ability to do Color and Tint adjustments on that input, but that was not a problem for me.

Losing the ability to do Brightness and Contrast as well is a *BIG* problem. I need those settings to get that delicate balance of settings to eliminate the nasty noise problem in the low grays.

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Other than that the described changes appear positive. I'll want to check to make sure the extra memory banks for DVD and such do not get in the way if they aren't being used -- i.e., if you accidentally press the DVD SSP button on the remote more than once.

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rudolpht,
For your Tivo S3 problem: Be sure Repeater = No is set in the Setup menu for that SSP. If it still doesn't work, then temporarily disconnect just the HDMI cable from the Tivo S3 end. Now see if you can get Component to your second screen when Zone2 Component is set to be the Unprocessed version of Main. Again you will need both the HDMI and Component plug to be entered in the SSP Setup. If you can get Component that way (with the HDMI cable temporarily disconnected) then your setup is likely correct and the only thing I can think of is that your S3 is different from Brian's.
--Bob
post #2089 of 42682
post #2090 of 42682
I succussfully upgraded my D2 to 1.10 and its working fine at the moment.
Now can any one help me dial in the custom resolution for my Panasonic TH-50PHD8UK with the live video settings?
post #2091 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by yatchaks View Post


For what it's worth, I no longer have the green screen issues with v1.10.

Mark

Same here.
post #2092 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post


rudolpht,
For your Tivo S3 problem: Be sure Repeater = No is set in the Setup menu for that SSP. If it still doesn't work, then temporarily disconnect just the HDMI cable from the Tivo S3 end. Now see if you can get Component to your second screen when Zone2 Component is set to be the Unprocessed version of Main. Again you will need both the HDMI and Component plug to be entered in the SSP Setup. If you can get Component that way (with the HDMI cable temporarily disconnected) then your setup is likely correct and the only thing I can think of is that your S3 is different from Brian's.
--Bob

I do have a 750GB version but I doubt that has anything to do with the compatibility. I should have though of trying w/o the HDMI (I'll get no sound) but should see if pic works.
post #2093 of 42682
rudolpht,
I'm hampered by the fact that I don't have an S3 to try this stuff out on, but I had another thought (presuming you are getting Component working with the HDMI cable disconnected as in my previous post):

See if you can set the S3 to "pass through" the incoming channel resolution rather than scaling all channels to a single output resolution. It's possible that the S3 disables scaling on the Component output when its HDMI output is active, but will nevertheless "pass through" unscaled video to Component even if HDMI is active.

Such a pass through setting is what you want anyway -- even for the HDMI path to your main screen -- since you want the D2 to do any and all scaling. Now the D2 won't be scaling the Zone2 Component output the way we are setting it up, but that's fine as well since now the scaler in your second screen will take it from there.
--Bob
post #2094 of 42682
Levesque,
I now have virtually all the same major components that you do in your main theater! Since you were the main influencer in my purchase decisions I want to thank you for making my enjoyment of this hobby the most satisfying experience to date. I have the D2, P5/P2,Tosh Xa1, oppo and the Ruby on to a 110" stewart screen. I am still running ver 1.00 on the D2 and I hope to upgrade to 1.10 this weekend. Since I am still running an uncalibrated system (350 hours) and I am totaly in awe of the experience can you tell me what settings you recommend for your equipment for frame lock and or any customized settings for the resolution.
And thank you for starting this thread and bringing a great group of people to help make this pastime even better for the rest of us!

Peter
post #2095 of 42682
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nine ball View Post

Levesque,
I now have virtually all the same major components that you do in your main theater! Since you were the main influencer in my purchase decisions I want to thank you for making my enjoyment of this hobby the most satisfying experience to date. I have the D2, P5/P2,Tosh Xa1, oppo and the Ruby on to a 110" stewart screen.

With practically all the same equipment, you're officially my "mini-me". Maybe you said it somewhere else, but I'm not able to find what kind of speakers you're using... I'm just curious...

Quote:
Originally Posted by nine ball View Post

I am still running ver 1.00 on the D2 and I hope to upgrade to 1.10 this weekend.

Good idea. Updating the firmware is really painless with the good cable, and takes around 10 minutes to do. Just be sure to save your settings before updating, then resetting to default settings after the firmware update, and finally reloading your settings. 1.10 is a big step up over 1.00. Major differences.

With 1.10, the scaler of the D2 is alot more powerful. You should try 1080p48 to the Ruby DVI connections (HDMI doesn't support it...) to see if you prefer it with less judder compared to 1080p60. If (like me) you're waiting for the Pio Elite Blu-ray player (able to do 1080p24), then 1080p48 to the Ruby will be really useful!

Quote:
Originally Posted by nine ball View Post

Since I am still running an uncalibrated system (350 hours) and I am totaly in awe of the experience can you tell me what settings you recommend for your equipment for frame lock and or any customized settings for the resolution.

First thing to do would be to call a good ISF calibrator with experience calibrating the Ruby, and to schedule a full calibration for your system. If you can, with both a HD-DVD and a Blu-ray player. So will be all set for a while. He will help you find the configurations "sweet spots" with your equipment for the best results.

Have fun!
post #2096 of 42682
M&K THX Ultra
Levesque

M&K thx ultra II

6 150
2 tri polar (set up bipolar)
3 350 sub
1 125 sub (helps to fill in the depth of field for LFE)



Peter
post #2097 of 42682
Does anybody have a copy of the 1.06 they can send to

budeone@gmail.com

Thanks
post #2098 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by budeone View Post

Does anybody have a copy of the 1.06 they can send to

budeone@gmail.com

Thanks


Check your e-mail. Sent as a .Zip file.

Also, the link you supplied for the D9 adapter "should" work. Depending on device connected, results will be different with different adapters. It's trial and error.
post #2099 of 42682
Thank you very much...

Nick said something that it may not be updating because of the beta in there now.

It did not come I did check the spam folder.

Can you please try renaming it .ccc

Thanks again!!!
post #2100 of 42682
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

rudolpht,
I'm hampered by the fact that I don't have an S3 to try this stuff out on, but I had another thought (presuming you are getting Component working with the HDMI cable disconnected as in my previous post):

See if you can set the S3 to "pass through" the incoming channel resolution rather than scaling all channels to a single output resolution. It's possible that the S3 disables scaling on the Component output when its HDMI output is active, but will nevertheless "pass through" unscaled video to Component even if HDMI is active.

Such a pass through setting is what you want anyway -- even for the HDMI path to your main screen -- since you want the D2 to do any and all scaling. Now the D2 won't be scaling the Zone2 Component output the way we are setting it up, but that's fine as well since now the scaler in your second screen will take it from there.
--Bob

Bob,

Yes, I have always run the S3 at native rate for the purposes you describe, letting the Anthem do the deinterlacing and/or scaling. This way the 720p or 1080i Locals are handled to their max res. Even though I'm unprocessed to my second monitor, it to is native rate so when the S3 switches to menus (720p) it will flicker and settle to the rative rate. I have black bars constantly (also fine) to blank the 120 extra pixel lines (1920x1200 -> 1920x1080). Regular SD broadcast shows are small on the screen, but that's fine two, as it looks bad scaled (being an HD snob ).

Tim
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