Anthem D2/D2v/AVM50/AVM50v/ARC1 tweaking guide - Page 71

Sent again. One .Zip and a second as a folder.

PM me if you still have a problem.

When will the release there Room EQ? I take it no chance they can add Audyssey to the D2 without a new seperate chip?

I dont understand why its not going through..

I hate to be a pain.. can you please try

seeegone@comcast.net

I keep getting the emails that a post has been made just nothing from you.

Thanks again... really!

Levesque,
Have you heard of a 'ringing' in the bulb of the ruby. It starts about five mins after a cold start then dissappears after about 20 mins with no audible sound whatsoever. during the 20 mins it is extremely audible with a sound like a high frequency whistle. I know its not part of this thread but I believe you may have heard of it?

Peter

Thanks yatchaks I have it..

1.07 and 1.06 go in with out any problem.. 1st time on both .. I bought a new cable today. That may be the reason they go in the first time now.

I am trying 1.10 right now for the 14th time.

If this does not work I have no idea why it takes 1.06 and 1.07 just not 1.10.


Thanks again!

Bob/Brian,

Getting closer.

The non-HDMI use didn't change things, although after setting Component preferred it also didn't work to the main projector. I rewired again and I can get component out of the Tivo to Zone 2 to Monitor. Processed or Unprocessed Component 2 out will not get the Component output of the S3 to "flow."

OK, so it works (that's good). I'll need to do some macros to shift the SSP 2 zone outputs, so that as I switch around inputs, the sound matches the Main zone.


Brian,

I assume since you are using Zones you are not mirroring out (processed or unprocessed) the S3 component, only using zones and manually syncing sources? I assume you are routing the fiber (or stero analog) for audio then too?

So progress gents,
Thanks,
Tim

I'm not being a wise guy or condascending, but you are using the D2 download for a D2 or the AVM50 for the AVM50, correct?

The baselines are different now, so what used to work in the past interchangeably isn't necessarily so now.

Tim

http://www.anthemav.com/NewSitev2.0/...Downloads.html

That is the link I am going to

AVM 50 - AUDIO/VIDEO PROCESSOR

http://www.anthemav.com/NewSitev2.0/....10install.zip

That is the link I am using.

It still does not work

I think There is something wrong with my machine

The links you provide are correct.
It may not make a diff, but for kicks, burn the file to a CD and download off the CD.

That is the way I have been doing it. 1.06 1.07d and 1.10 are all on cd.

According to section 3.5 of the updated manual, version 1.10 of the firmware provides support for additional source components (i.e. DVD2, DVD3, DVD4, TV2, TV3, TV4, SAT2).
The manual doesn't explain how to take advantage of these, given that the hardware itself hasn't changed. Is this useful primarily if you have source components that are analog only and source components that are digital only, so between them you can actually have more than 9 source components?

Anyway, has anyone tried the Anthem's support for additional source components? I'm wonderning if the following is possible:


1. Connect source A's S-Video output to SAT1. Connect source B via HDMI and use SAT2 for source B.

2. Connect source X's S-Video output and analog L/R output to TV1. Connect source Y's component output to the D2's component input #1 and source Y's optical output to the D2's optical #1 input. Assign this to TV2.

I assume that the only way to really have more than 7 sources (ignoring the 2-channel balanced in and the 6-channel in) is to have 7 analog sources and the other sources would use component, optical or coaxial inputs, component inputs, and HDMI inputs?

For universal DVD players that have 6 channel analog output for SACD/DVD-A, do folks use the DVD input for DVD movies and the 6-channel input when listening to SACD/DVD-A? Just wondering what other permutations/uses are possible with the various input assignments the D2 allows.

Thanks.

Just thought fellow Anthemers would like to know, PS3 worked flawlessly with my AVM-50. I have described my setup here

I was able to feed 1080p to the AVM-50 with no issues. Unfortunately my son has control of it now and is hooked to his gaming setup so I will need to get myself another one for the family room where I have the anthem.

I wish I could afford another of these puppies for my theater room in the basement. May have to settle for an AVM-40 if they ever release one. A lot of people are having issues with HDMI and PS3 and am afraid of trusting any other manuf. to fix the issues like Anthem does.

BTW, I used v1.06 to test. I have upgraded to v1.10 now but have not retested with the PS3.

Perhaps v1.10 is a bad burn? Try burning another if you didn't already do so.

Spizz,
Rumor is that the D2 will get room EQ early next year. The D2 already has the spare DSP processing power to handle this. The AVM-50 does not, and will not get room EQ.

So far there are no other details, but the word is that Anthem has been working on this for some time and thinks they've got a winner on their hands.
--Bob

Has anyone yet tried V1.10 with an RGB source (e.g., Pioneer 59avi DVD via HDMI) and an RGB display? Can you verify that Brightness and Contrast on the D2 input settings will no longer work for such a source and display?
--Bob

I did that and I also put on hard drive.. 1.10 just does not work

When I put on 1.06 last night it was real fast.. works great.. 1.07 takes a bit longer but works..

The additional inputs options (ie DVD1, DVD2, DVD3, DVD4, etc..) is just what I was looking for.
With 4 HDMI inputs (HD-DVD, 3930, OPPO 970 & HD-VCR) assigned to 4 different inputs, say DVD, VCR, AUX & TAPE, on the D2, I was scrambling to figure out what inputs on the D2 I was going to use for our,
SAT receiver (Directv)
MOXI box (cable)
Turntable
Transporter (SlimDevices music server of sorts)
SMS-1
Blu-Ray computer and/or PS3
etc.....

Now NO worries, thanks to the additional input options.
Way to go Anthem

dc

It definitely helps as I already had to add in an external HDMI switcher (now unused while I do gymnastics with the S3 (Brian appreciate the additional info on your setup asked above). Spent a couple hours last night programming remotes to deal with Zone 2 (and making sure to shut it off so the unit doesn't stay on constantly even with Main zone and amp triggered off), but can't complain as at least I have flexibility.

Now I just need to figure out how to use the extra devices and how to switch the combinations remotely.

Just got the AVM50 and it has me baffled. Can someone explain to me how the "Mode Presets" work within the Source Setup/Presets screen?

If I go to a DVD encoded in 5.1, I notice my center channel is not working. On the AVM, it is saying AL-Music. I assume that this stands for AnthemLogic Music, but why is the AVM not sensing the disk as 5.1? I have tried playing around with the mode presets, but I have no idea what I am changing when I change things there. Can anyone give me a bit of a lesson on how these presets work or am I in the wrong menu to do this? The manual is not very detailed in explaning this. Thanks,

Bluemark81
The mode presets in the Setup / Source screen are simply the defaults the AVM-50 uses each time the AVM-50 detects a new style of incoming audio format from some particular source device when you are listening to that source.

You can manual change to a different form of surround sound processing while listening by pressing the Mode button on the remote and then using the up and down arrows to cycle through the available options. The options available will vary depending on:

1) The type of incoming audio signal the AVM-50 currently detects.

2) Whether or not you have rear speakers configured in addition to surround speakers.

3) Whether or not you have turned on THX post processing -- by using the THX button on the remote and then the up or down arrows to toggle the setting, or by selecting THX on "by default" in the appropriate Setup / Source line.

If you would prefer that the AVM-50 *NOT* have a default surround proccessing mode for any given source device or for any specific type of incoming audio format from a source, simply select "Last Used" in the appropriate Setup / Source lines and it will use whatever you last used for that type of incoming audio.

Here's an example:

I prefer THX post processing turned on while watching movies and off while watching TV. This is true whether or not the movie or TV content is 2 channel or 5.1 I also don't like THX added to DTS content. These, by the way, are all personal preferences and your preferences may be different.

So for my DVD player input in my D2 I have 2 channel defaulted (in Setup / Source for DVD) to PLII-x with THX, and 5.1 Dolby defaulted to DD with THX, and 5.1 DTS defaulted to DTS without THX.

Meanwhile for my cable TV input in my D2 I have 2 channel defaulted to Anthem Logic Cinema (no THX), 5.1 Dolby defaulted to DD (no THX), and 5.1 DTS -- which is unlikely to ever appear on a TV program, but it doesn't hurt to set it up -- defaulted to DTS (no THX).

Now if I happen to be watching a DVD recording of a TV series, the default will have THX on -- which I *DON'T* want -- but I can easily turn it off for that viewing using the THX button and then the up or down arrrow on the remote. The default I have set up stays remembered, and works for me for most DVDs I watch, since most of them happen to be movies.

And if I happen to be watching a TV broadcast of a movie, THX will be off by default -- but again I can easily turn it on for that viewing.

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The various processing modes you have available are described in the user manual. Anthem Logic Music (AL-Music), for example, is a non-aggressive surround sound mode for listening to music developed by Anthem. It is designed to give a little bit of AVM-50 generated surround (as compared to "Stereo" which is straight 2 channel without any generated surround, or "PLII-X" which produces a more aggressive form of generated surround sound), and it specifically DOES NOT USE the center speaker so as to keep from screwing up the "sound stage" for the main stereo speakers. [NOTE: Some surround modes have options you can adjust. For example you could, if you wish, adjust PLII-x to not use the center speaker as well and the AVM-50 will remember that setting for that specific mode on that specific input.]

So if you are listening to an incoming 2-channel audio signal, and AL-Music is your default setting -- or if you happen to have selected it manually -- then the center speaker will be silent. Just use the Mode button and the up and down arrow buttons to try different options. If you like one in particular, then go to the Setup / Source screen and set it as the default for that style of incoming audio signal from that particular source device.

The AVM-50 comes with factory preset values for these defaults which are pretty logical. For example the presets for the "CD" input are geared towards music listening and for the "DVD" input are geared towards movie listening. But you are free to change them around as best suits your particular set of sources and the way you use them.

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DVD players often default to 2 channel output until you tell them otherwise. You may have to do this in 2 different places.

First in the Setup inside your DVD player, you need to tell it that it is OK to send the undecoded Dolby Digital or DTS "Bitstream" as digital audio output if the DVD disc happens to offer it. The AVM-50 will decode the Bitstream and play it.

Next, when viewing a given DVD disc, you may have to go into that disc's own menus and tell it you want to listen to the multi-channel sound track instead of the stereo sound track that happens to also be on the disc. Many movie discs default to 5.1 sound already, but some require you to ask for it when playing the disc.
--Bob

Bob:

That is what I thought was supposed to happen, but it appears as though mine is not sensing the signal properly through HDMI. What I did to test it was run seperate digital cables. One from my DVD player and one from my SAT receiver and then assigned these as my audio inputs in the setup screen rather than HDMI. After doing so, it sensed the signal automatically and defaulted to the settings I selected the way it should. Do you think this is more likely to be a problem with the HDMI cables or with the AVM?

Also....I notice that my Video Processing menu is very small and hard to read on my 51" TV. I think is was Levesque that had a picture from his that looked large. Do you know what might be causing this?

Thanks,

Levesque:

Yes, the new memory inputs will be really useful. I maxed out in the number of source components that I could connect to the Anthem. But, with v1.10, I can add even more components. Also, as you alluded to earlier, this can be a good solution so that one input can be used for a DVD player for 1080p/24 and another for 1080p/60 (if and when a Blue Ray DVD player comes out that I like.... PS3 would have been a good stop gap solution for now.... although it only does 1080p/60, and I didn't stay up all night long to get one...).

Bluemark81,
Well it is possible that both your DVD player and SAT box need an additional setting regarding the type of audio to send out the HDMI cable. The regular digital audio output may be set correctly which is why it works.

Do you have another way to test whether 5.1 audio is coming down the HDMI cable from them? You could take the DVD player to the store and hook its HDMI up to another receiver or 5.1 capable TV just to double check you have the player set correctly and that the cable is working.

This is not likely to be a cable issue.

Are you sure the stereo signal you were seeing was actually coming down the HDMI cable? If you also have regular analog stereo wires connected, and if Auto-Dig is set in the Setup/Source, then if there is *NO* digital audio coming down the HDMI cable the AVM-50 will automatically revert to the analog cabling.

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The video source adjustment menus (produced by holding down the "7" key) should fill about 50% of your screen. The test pattern bar charts available from those menus should fill your screen. If either of those is not correct then it is likely you have selected a video output resolution your display is not able to handle -- and it is just doing the best it can. There may be some setting you need to make in your display.

Also, in the AVM-50 Setup / Displays menu, be sure the on-screen display is set to generate both S-video and HD versions. The menu item gives you the choice or one, the other, or both of them.
--Bob

Bob:

With DVD's over HDMI, it will sometimes sense the 5.1 but mostly doesn't. If I turn the AVM off, then back on, it seems to always sense that it is 5.1. However, if I go into setup and then back out, it will go to 2-ch. Or, if I switch to another source, then go back to DVD, it will go to 2-ch. I haven't been able to really detect everytime it does it, but those are some of the cases when it is happening.

The video source adjustment is roughly 20% of my screen size. It is so small, that I have to be right at the screen to read the information. I have the output resolution set to the only one that will work and give a good picture. Any other thoughts?

Bluemark81,
Well if you are getting it at all then your player is probably set up properly.

It is unlikely to be an HDMI cable problem but it wouldn't hurt to get a high end HDMI cable from someplace where you can return it if it doesn't fix the problem (i.e., Best Buy) and give it a try. Use the shortest cable that will work for you.

Unfortunately you may have a bad AVM-50 HDMI input.

I presume you've got at least the V1.06 firmware in your AVM-50 right? If not, then the first thing you should do is download the new firmware (V1.10) from the Anthem site and install it. If you are running the original V1.00 firmware, the new firmware will fix many many HDMI related issues.

Another thing to try is to set HDMI Repeater = No in the Setup / Source for these two devices. This simplifies the HDMI copy protection handshake. It is just barely possible that your source devices are reverting to two channel because the handshake is getting screwed up and they think the AVM-50 is not capable of receiving 5.1 channel. Each time you exit setup or switch sources a new handshake happens -- another chance for it to get screwed up. The usual result of a bad handshake is that the HDMI turns off (no video and audio muted), but I can imagine ways in which it might still be live but just confused.
--Bob

Bluemark81,
Your video is definitely screwed up. If you are running HDMI to the display then that may be the cable causing the problems -- and yes that can screw up stuff on the input side as well.

What's your display, and what resolution are you sending to it? What goes wrong when you send other resolutions (i.e., why is this one the only one that works)?

If the output resolution you originally intended to use either produced no picture or produced a picture that was shifted horizontally by a bunch (say 1/3 of the screen) then you need to try again but use the alternate setting of Sync in the Setup / Video Output menu.

And again, if you have the original V1.00 firmware, now is the time to install the new firmware.
--Bob

Bob, Do you have any ideas for me about no being able to install 1.10?


yatchaks was great .. he sent me the 1.06 and I have 1.07 running again.

budeone,
Sorry, no. You've obviously got a good PC and cable setup if the other installs are going so smoothly. So it's a puzzle.

Try this:

1) Use Setup Editor to save any settings to your PC if you haven't already done so.

2) Install V1.06. As usual, anything connected to the Anthem should be powered off when you do this.

3) Leave everything else turned off and just power up the Anthem. Using the front panel display (and remote) only, go to Setup /Save Restore Settings and Restore Factory Defaults.

4) Power off the Anthem

5) Try to install V1.10.

6) If the install works, power on just the Anthem again and once again Restore Factory Defaults. Now you can restore your settings saved on the PC.

I'm thinking it is just possible you have a setting in the Anthem that differs from the factory default and is getting in the way of the V1.10 install.
--Bob

I printed that and I will try on Sunday.

To be real honest... Im tired of standing there trying over and over.

Last night just took it out of me.

This sounds like a format if we were talking about computers..

This just may work...

Thnanks again!