Anthem D2/D2v/AVM50/AVM50v/ARC1 tweaking guide - Page 995

My new meaurement today came out at 75 dB and there are no dips on the speakers which I got when the calc file was not there with the diff mic. So all is where it should be now. Not sure why others are getting these results. I'm using 2.4.17
John

John, so how does it sound? Are you still sticking with the 5K?

Steve,
I'm still using 5K and sound for music is smoother. Still testing movies. Will report very soon.
John

Here is the response I received from Piero when I queried him on the low volume issue, the upper end sub garbage, and the upper end roll-off.


Here was my response:

What did you have to set your test volume level to in order to get 75db? Also, what are your speaker trims looking like? With my test volume level set to +6.5, my speaker trims are -2.0 to +2.0, and that includes the sub.

I re-ran ARC today with .17 trying to get more punchy bass as I have moved my subs just a little. I think they look a little better in the 60 to 100 hz range but I still need to improve, any ideas on what I should do next, maybe continue moving the subs by a few inches each time? Note the volume levels with .17 as all my volume trims are between 0 and plus 3.

John

Also, if anyone remembers my gripe with the HDMI Handshake problems with my video not coming in all the time and sometimes the audio, I have replaced my Canadian Dish receiver and that must have been the culprit as I am no longer having any issues..........so far.

Excellent

John

I have spent quite some time testing my 5k freq. correction and have decided to keep it there. I would recommend people try it and then decide what
sounds best, but to not try it, ie. the default of what ARC decided, would be to deny the fact it is based on hundreds of diff room measurements and that is why I believe it is head and shoulders above other correction systems. Just my two cents
John

+1. Like I said in one of my earlier post, I'm going to trust what ARC came up with and not change anything. I have been listening to the ARC Solution for a while now, and I must admit that I am really enjoying what I am hearing. The overall sound is fuller. So far, I'm a happy camper. So, I add my two cents to jayray two cents, and now we have four cents.

Greetings,

John, I am now using 5k. I haven't noticed a appreciable difference in the quality going from 12k to 5k. Each sounds quite good. I will more than likely stay with 5k.


Regards,

According to Anthem, anything above 5KHz is not 100% guaranteed. That's why they strongly recommend not going above 5KHz.

This a little off topic, but I do not see an Anthem genral issue forum, id there One?.

Somtimes (about 5% of the time) when my system (Anthem 50v) starts up the volume is very muted. The volume shows -15 DB which is correct and the volume is not muted. The volume knob has no effect. If I just power off the unit (not unplug it, just put it in standby) and then turn it on again everything is then fine!

Any one have any thoughts??

I have had this happen only a couple of times, very intermittent. Email Anthem tech. I get this low volume with test tones intermittently as well. This thread serves the same purpose, just not named as such.
John

No tweaking of the cutoffs or any suggestions?

Barry this is the correct thread. What inputs are you using when this happens? I have issues when I try to watch my satellite and then switch to my home theater pc. I get very garble or muted sound. Now this only happens in my zone 2 scenario and I simply power on main and the sound returns for zone 2. It's a glitch I have lived with until tech support can come up with a solution.

Are you starting up with a source that requires an HDMI handshake? If yes, try to power on with an analog source like FM to check for a consistent volume level at start-up.

Thanks for the replies. My theater always powers up with the source being a DVR (Samsung). The DVR is always on. The output of the DVR is Component video and s/PDIF optical audio. I could have the theater startup with the FM tuner, and then switch it I guess. When I start the AVP I immediatley mute it and then un mute it as soon as all components are ready, the big delay being the Projector. While it is very intermittant and simple to correct for the price that Anthem gets it just should not be happening. Oh well I guess that is the state of the High End world.

I do not know your setup or components but have you thought about using the adjustable delay on the triggers and having your power amp power up after everything else.

re powering up the power amp. Why should it matter? it is triggered by the Anthem, but why should it need a delay. It is a one way path and the anthem has no idea if the power amp is on or off.

Do you think the anthem is crowbarring its output as the amp powers up and is not in a steady state condition? If that is your though wouldn't you want to power up the power amp first?

I am pretty sure it is an anthem issue but am always willing to learn. Hopefully the Anthem team will be at Cedia

having 2 young children - dolby volume is very useful for me as i find I am always having to listen to music or play movies at reduced levels. Typically I listen at about the -25dB to -30dB level.

For movies, I really like the sound after dolby volume processing, it feels much more cinematic and I get to hear a lot more of the soundtrack than i would with it switched off. I find the best result for me is dolby volume on (not cinema) with leveling at 5.

I am still struggling with music though. I have set DV to On, and have tried leveling from off to max. I am using stereo having never been a fan of the surround music formats. I find the best result is with leveling off where the music is excellent. However, male vocals always seem a little muffled whatever leveling I set. It is quite a distraction and is the only issue I face when listening to music. Female vocals are fine. I am far from an expert here but this sounds like there is some anomaly in my room at a very narrow frequency? or is this just an artefact of the DV processing? Last piiece of info, I have setup ARC using the latest beta version.

This may sound like an exercise instead of an answer, but the next time the volume is low, try to disconnect each HDMI source. If the volume does not change, start to reconnect each source to determine if a new handshake, as a result of the reconnect, returns the volume. If yes, you have, at least, isolated the source of the volume problem. I have had a similar problem with the D2v when switching from one HDMI source to my TIVO. The audio disappears and a new forced handshake, or sometimes a power off/on, is required to restore it.

Just completed my theater and performed first ARC with version 2.4. Looking at my results, are there any suggestions prior to remeasuring with the latest beta version? Thanks again for all the help everyone has provided!

+1 make in a nickel!!

I could make a lot of money if this takes off
John

Hello Everyone, Here are my most recent, remeasured, ARC Graphs using v2.4.17. The previous high volume results from 2.4.15 are now eliminated. I too am using 5K as max freq. as it sounds pretty darned good. The higher frequencies sound more relaxed and natural and the bass is very nice and tight. For some reason ARC chose a 80Hz. cutoff for my sub which I raised to 100 as well as a room correction value if 1.1...for movies and 1.0...for music, which I also raised to 2.3 for movies and 2.0 for music. All other parameters have been left as is. Will you please critique my results and offer your valued input? Graphs are attached. Thank you for your time and consideration , John Fricano.

 

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By the way, Is Bob on vacation?? Haven't heard a peep out of him recently?? Maybe testing the new receivers??

Your curves look very good and if it sounds good you are there, audio nervana. Have you tried the default for the sub crossover? If not try it and compare. I used to use the 120 even though ARC set it to 105. Now I use 105 and it sounds terrific. Just a suggestion.
John

I second jayray, and add to just leave everything to what ARC decided and give that a listen to for a while. I did that, and I am glad that I did. It really sounds good. After listening to what ARC decided for you for a while and you decide that you don't like what you hear, then start modifying things from there.

Maybe he's on a well deserved vacation.