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Originally Posted by oyvindmo View Post

That seems quite versatile and powerful. Thanks for the info!

Also thanks for trying to sell me on getting a sub I'll post some more questions about that in a more suitable sub-forum (no pun intended) and see where it takes me.

Oh, and for the record: Now that I have >3 posts, here's a sketch of my difficult room, which I hope ARC can help me with:

http://www.moll.no/kjellerstue/utkast2.jpg

Plenty of ROOM for a SUB.

I hope your Pinball Game Collection is GOOD
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Plenty of ROOM for a SUB.

Yeah, I'm almost starting to be swayed by those who say I should get _two_ subs. From zero to two in just a couple of postings -- this place is dangerous.

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I hope your Pinball Game Collection is GOOD

Pinball is just as "important" to me as the A/V system, so yeah, I like it. If you're into pinball games, they are WH2O, LOTR, AFM, Shadow, WCS94, CftBL and SC (in various states of playability vs. restoration).


To keep this post at least slightly on-topic: I'm currently also wondering if I should go for AVM50v + Oppo BDP-93, or if I should go the extra mile and get D2v and BDP-95. If anyone has experience with comparing these, I'd be happy to read some listening notes.
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Originally Posted by oyvindmo View Post

Yeah, I'm almost starting to be swayed by those who say I should get _two_ subs. From zero to two in just a couple of postings -- this place is dangerous.



Pinball is just as "important" to me as the A/V system, so yeah, I like it. If you're into pinball games, they are WH2O, LOTR, AFM, Shadow, WCS94, CftBL and SC (in various states of playability vs. restoration).


To keep this post at least slightly on-topic: I'm currently also wondering if I should go for AVM50v + Oppo BDP-93, or if I should go the extra mile and get D2v and BDP-95. If anyone has experience with comparing these, I'd be happy to read some listening notes.

Every movie has low Frequencies - you need at least one SUB
to enjoy the movie How would you play pinball WITHOUT the Balls.

Speaking of Pinball - I have attached a couple of pictures.
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post #33364 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by oyvindmo View Post

Yeah, I'm almost starting to be swayed by those who say I should get _two_ subs. From zero to two in just a couple of postings -- this place is dangerous.



Pinball is just as "important" to me as the A/V system, so yeah, I like it. If you're into pinball games, they are WH2O, LOTR, AFM, Shadow, WCS94, CftBL and SC (in various states of playability vs. restoration).


To keep this post at least slightly on-topic: I'm currently also wondering if I should go for AVM50v + Oppo BDP-93, or if I should go the extra mile and get D2v and BDP-95. If anyone has experience with comparing these, I'd be happy to read some listening notes.

I had a 50v for more than a year. Definately a great piece of gear but i then upgraded to a D2v four months ago as ai listen to alot of analog sources and need the best in A/D conversion possible. Please refer to this posts as to the differences between the 50v and D2v:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=19470

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=17883

I still have an Oppo 83SE and not a BDP93/95 but from what Oppo and others say, the 95 is better sounding than the 83SE, which was their top of the line player and was well reviewed by many publications.
Have fun ....
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Love my D2v. But 10 feet away is the Creature from the Black Lagoon pinball machine.
Also, with a vintage poster of it.
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Hi -

I am considering purchasing some Theta Digital Enterprise monoblocks to power my speakers. The only fly in the ointment seems to be that these amps don't support a continuous 12V trigger to come out of standby mode; they need a pulse instead. Converting them to respond to a continuous voltage would be a factory mod.

Is there any way to get the D2V to issue a pulse instead of a continuous output? If not does anyone know of a gizmo that would act as an adapter between these two voltage modes?
post #33367 of 40764
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I had a 50v for more than a year. Definately a great piece of gear but i then upgraded to a D2v four months ago as ai listen to alot of analog sources and need the best in A/D conversion possible. Please refer to this posts as to the differences between the 50v and D2v:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=19470

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=17883

I still have an Oppo 83SE and not a BDP93/95 but from what Oppo and others say, the 95 is better sounding than the 83SE, which was their top of the line player and was well reviewed by many publications.
Have fun ....

The thing that gives me pause regarding the 93/95 is that it seems the firmware is still in beta, and DVD upconversion is not up to par with the BDP-83 (yet?). Since I have a large DVD collection with many titles not available in BD, DVD upconversion is very important to me.
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

Hi -

I am considering purchasing some Theta Digital Enterprise monoblocks to power my speakers. The only fly in the ointment seems to be that these amps don't support a continuous 12V trigger to come out of standby mode; they need a pulse instead. Converting them to respond to a continuous voltage would be a factory mod.

Is there any way to get the D2V to issue a pulse instead of a continuous output? If not does anyone know of a gizmo that would act as an adapter between these two voltage modes?

As a Man from NJ - Support your local Companies.
Get a CRESTRON Control system and control your life
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

As a Man from NJ - Support your local Companies.
Get a CRESTRON Control system and control your life

It's much more likely that I'd do something with iRule.
post #33370 of 40764
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

The thing that gives me pause regarding the 93/95 is that it seems the firmware is still in beta, and DVD upconversion is not up to par with the BDP-83 (yet?). Since I have a large DVD collection with many titles not available in BD, DVD upconversion is very important to me.

To be fair, they have an official version that was released late march-early april. Its this new beta that solves many issues of the official one(including better upscaling of DVDs, faster access for external drives, etc) but also introduces new issues for some. And the posters this affects are very vocal about it!

As for the DVD upscaling comparison with the 83, i believe the camp is split on this one. As mentioned above, this new beta noticeably improves on this feature alot and quite a few posters have mentioned it as well.

Oppo is new to the Qdeo chipset and so growing pains are to be expected though theirs have been suprisingly few and far between. Future upscaling enhancements are coming via software for sure as the beta-testers always remind us.
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I am looking at purchasing a used Anthem AVM 50 in the near future. Consequently, I have a couple of questions about the unit.

Can ARC-1 be added to the original Anthem AVM 50? If so, are there any restrictions?

Would I be able to obtain Dolby True/DTS Master using the AVM50 with the blu-ray player doing the processing and sending the signal to the AVM 50 using HDMI? I thought I read that somewhere on the forum, but the dealer informed me that I would only be able to obtain these surround formats by using five or seven analog cables.

Thanks In Advance For Any & All Information Provided...
post #33372 of 40764
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Originally Posted by k elone View Post

I am looking at purchasing a used Anthem AVM 50 in the near future. Consequently, I have a couple of questions about the unit.

Can ARC-1 be added to the original Anthem AVM 50? If so, are there any restrictions?

Yes for ARC, No for restrictions

Would I be able to obtain Dolby True/DTS Master using the AVM50 with the blu-ray player doing the processing and sending the signal to the AVM 50 using HDMI? I thought I read that somewhere on the forum, but the dealer informed me that I would only be able to obtain these surround formats by using five or seven analog cables.

No intrinsic decoding of hidef codecs. Just set your source player to decode them internally by setting its audio output format to LPCM. No difference in audio quality whether the decoding it at the source or not.

Thanks In Advance For Any & All Information Provided...

See my answers above...
post #33373 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by k elone View Post

I am looking at purchasing a used Anthem AVM 50 in the near future. Consequently, I have a couple of questions about the unit.

Can ARC-1 be added to the original Anthem AVM 50? If so, are there any restrictions?

Would I be able to obtain Dolby True/DTS Master using the AVM50 with the blu-ray player doing the processing and sending the signal to the AVM 50 using HDMI? I thought I read that somewhere on the forum, but the dealer informed me that I would only be able to obtain these surround formats by using five or seven analog cables.

Thanks In Advance For Any & All Information Provided...

For ARC there is a hardware upgrade involved also so it's a little more expensive. I think it was about $800. I think some have installed it themselves but it was a recommended dealer install so they may change a bit also.
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

........... and DVD upconversion is not up to par with the BDP-83 (yet?). Since I have a large DVD collection with many titles not available in BD, DVD upconversion is very important to me.

Seems the Gen 2 Qdeo/Marvell processor used in the 93 is not doing as good as the HQV chip used in the 83, especially in the compression artifacts area.

Doug Blackburn's review of the 93 in the WSR Issue 156 is quite informative with regard to DVD upconversion.

Ben
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Originally Posted by benleeys View Post

Seems the Gen 2 Qdeo/Marvell processor used in the 93 is not doing as good as the HQV chip used in the 83, especially in the compression artifacts area.

Doug Blackburn's review of the 93 in the WSR Issue 156 is quite informative with regard to DVD upconversion.

Ben

83/83SE use the ABS201x series of chips from Anchor Bay Technologies and not HQV Realta chipset.
post #33377 of 40764
No problem using HDMI for sending decoded hi-res codecs from your player. I have a AVM50 with the ARC upgrade. If you're into doing it yourself, you have to replace the DSP board. It's a bit of a pain, but doable.
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Originally Posted by greyflag View Post

No problem using HDMI for sending decoded hi-res codecs from your player. I have a AVM50 with the ARC upgrade. If you're into doing it yourself, you have to replace the DSP board. It's a bit of a pain, but doable.

Do you know the price of the upgrade?
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$799 in 2009 through a Anthem dealer. I don't know if that has changed. It includes swapping out the DSP board, software, microphone and stand.
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any news about the update? - regarding the DTS HD decoding issue?
post #33381 of 40764
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

83/83SE use the ABS201x series of chips from Anchor Bay Technologies and not HQV Realta chipset.

Sorry, should have been more explicit. The 83 uses the Reon HQV chip, not the Realta chipset.

Ben

Edit: On browsing further, I can see that Adrian Wittenberg (Secrets) stated it's the ABT 2010 precessor that is used on the 83. Well, looks like either he or Doug Blackburn (WSR) is incorrect. Me? I just quote them. Perhaps someone else can shed any light on the discrepancies.
post #33382 of 40764
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Originally Posted by benleeys View Post

Sorry, should have been more explicit. The 83 uses the Reon HQV chip, not the Realta chipset.

Ben

Edit: On browsing further, I can see that Adrian Wittenberg (Secrets) stated it's the ABT 2010 precessor that is used on the 83. Well, looks like either he or Doug Blackburn (WSR) is incorrect. Me? I just quote them. Perhaps someone else can shed any light on the discrepancies.

According to the Oppo website the BDP-83/83SE uses the "VRS by Anchor Bay Video Processing". I'm pretty sure its the ABT 2010.

The BDP-93/95 uses "Qdeo by Marvell- Kyoto-G2 video processor"

I don't know if any of their older dvd players used the Reon or Realta chips, but neither of the Oppo Blurays do.

Tom
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

According to the Oppo website the BDP-83/83SE uses the "VRS by Anchor Bay Video Processing". I'm pretty sure its the ABT 2010.

The BDP-93/95 uses "Qdeo by Marvell- Kyoto-G2 video processor"

I don't know if any of their older dvd players used the Reon or Realta chips, but neither of the Oppo Blurays do.

Tom

Yea, Tom, you and dmusoke are absolutely correct. I just had this reply from the WSR reviewer (whom I had the misfortune to [mis]quote earlier) in response to my query -

Oops, yes, indeed, the Oppo BDP-83 uses the Anchor Bay ABT2010 processor, not the Reon HQV processor.

Best regards,
Doug Blackburn


Ben
post #33384 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Every movie has low Frequencies - you need at least one SUB
to enjoy the movie How would you play pinball WITHOUT the Balls.

Speaking of Pinball - I have attached a couple of pictures.

Nice collection.
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Originally Posted by studlygoorite View Post

Nice collection.

All Multi-Ball games to keep things FAST
post #33386 of 40764
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

Hi -

I am considering purchasing some Theta Digital Enterprise monoblocks to power my speakers. The only fly in the ointment seems to be that these amps don't support a continuous 12V trigger to come out of standby mode; they need a pulse instead. Converting them to respond to a continuous voltage would be a factory mod.

Is there any way to get the D2V to issue a pulse instead of a continuous output? If not does anyone know of a gizmo that would act as an adapter between these two voltage modes?


I built my own little device to switch my theta dreadnaught on and off. I daisy chained two relays together. The anthem goes to one relay allows power to run from a wall wart to the amp. It also gives power to another relay which turns off the power from the amp to the wall wart. The relays have a delay between power and switch. So the amp sees power delay off. So it looks like a pulse.

Parts: 12v wall wart, 2 replys with 100 to 250 ms. Look in manual how long the pulse needs to be.
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Originally Posted by steven2583 View Post

I built my own little device to switch my theta dreadnaught on and off. I daisy chained two relays together. The anthem goes to one relay allows power to run from a wall wart to the amp. It also gives power to another relay which turns off the power from the amp to the wall wart. The relays have a delay between power and switch. So the amp sees power delay off. So it looks like a pulse.

Parts: 12v wall wart, 2 replys with 100 to 250 ms. Look in manual how long the pulse needs to be.

That turns it on. I have another relay in my power code that actually hard switches off my amp so I don't worry about a pulse to turn off.
post #33388 of 40764
if you are using a blueray source what is the best audio input into the D2v
HDMI audio
Coaxial
or Toslink
sorry if this has already been asked
Neale
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Neale,

HDMI is preferred.

Coaxial and Toslink don't have the bandwidth of HDMI.
post #33390 of 40764
HDMI is the only way to go. It is capable of up to 7.1 channels of CD or better quality digital. After that would have to be analogue if you don't want digital transfer...

Coax and Optical would be bottom of the list for BR, but the best for connecting to a DVD player that does not use HDMI.
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