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post #33751 of 40740
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Originally Posted by MACCA350 View Post

Just had this same problem again yesterday and again it didn't fix with power cycles or changing sources but slowly disappeared after about 30min.

It simply makes no sense at all.

Cheers

In my experience with the Anthems ( AVM30 and D2 for me) when things are making no sense its probably a corrupted firmware.
Either it wasn't downloaded and uploaded properly, or it got corrupted by a power surge type incident.

Best to go back to step one.

Download a new copy of whatever firmware you are using from the Anthem website.
Turn off your firewall.
Carefully following the Anthem instructions step by step, reload the firmware.
Turn your firewall back on.

If your problems persist then you can first curse me for the extra work, then call Anthem tech tommorow.

Tom
post #33752 of 40740
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

MACCA - What happens if you turn PLIIx off when it happens to these stereo sources? I assume you have a 7.1 system since you mentioned PLIIx specifically. Only other thought I have would be a thermal issue... something needs to warm up?

Tried all the other modes, Neo6, etc and issue was still present. Not sure why but I couldn't switch to Stereo mode. Heat wasn't an issue, was the first time it was turned on all day and ambient temp was around 20 degrees celcius. I suppose it could be that something had to warm up, but since this has only happened twice I would expect if that were the problem then it would happen every time I turn it on, which it doesn't.

Cheers
post #33753 of 40740
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

In my experience with the Anthems ( AVM30 and D2 for me) when things are making no sense its probably a corrupted firmware.
Either it wasn't downloaded and uploaded properly, or it got corrupted by a power surge type incident.

Best to go back to step one.

Download a new copy of whatever firmware you are using from the Anthem website.
Turn off your firewall.
Carefully following the Anthem instructions step by step, reload the firmware.
Turn your firewall back on.

If your problems persist then you can first curse me for the extra work, then call Anthem tech tommorow.

Tom

Worth a try I guess but from memory I have already previously reloaded this firmware so this would be the third install of this firmware version. Previous reinstall went without a hitch. I was planning to wait till 2.11 was officially released though and update then.

Cheers
post #33754 of 40740
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Originally Posted by Texas steve View Post

Tried one sometime ago, did nothing but empty my wallett

Some Components do a better job of shielding the power supply than others.
This product seems to work better with my multi-channel amp then with the Anthem processor. Amp also has larger power supply than Anthem. Anyway it works on some components and not on others.
post #33755 of 40740
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Originally Posted by rovingtravler View Post

AVFile,

I do have everything set to 4:2:2 and nothing to auto

Did you have frame lock on in the video settings? When I changed that from no to yes the Anthem picked up the correct signal right away.

No, I don't (can't) use FRAME LOCK.
post #33756 of 40740
I have ordered an RF base station to use with my URC MX-900 remote.
I got it mainly to use with my Oppo 93, since it doesn't always work with IR commands unless it is pointed directly at the unit.
I would also like to use it with my D2. I know I can set it up with the little IR flasher attatchment that will come with the MRF-260, but if possible I would like to use the IR in connections on the back of the D2. I'm not sure how to hook it up, though.
The Oppo uses an 1/8'' mono male/male cable to connect to its IR in, but the D2 has that little green block on the back. It has 3 separate connections plus a ground. Is there a special tpye of connector for this type of connection, or can I cannibalize the same type of cable I bought for the Oppo, or one of the IR flasher cables that comes with the unit, and make it work with the D2?

Tom
post #33757 of 40740
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post
The Oppo uses an 1/8'' mono male/male cable to connect to its IR in, but the D2 has that little green block on the back. It has 3 separate connections plus a ground. Is there a special tpye of connector for this type of connection, or can I cannibalize the same type of cable I bought for the Oppo, or one of the IR flasher cables that comes with the unit, and make it work with the D2?
Tom
I have one of these I use on my D2V. Cannibalization works fine. Just cut off one of the emitters and connect the wires to positions 1 and ground on the green block. The block is removable making it an easy process.
post #33758 of 40740
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

I have one of these I use on my D2V. Cannibalization works fine. Just cut off one of the emitters and connect the wires to positions 1 and ground on the green block. The block is removable making it an easy process.

Excellent!

Thanks for the quick reply.

Tom
post #33759 of 40740
i have tried that on my bdp 83. maby i have connectet it up wrong. can i use the IR eye on my anthem to control my Oppo bdp 83. i have tryed witt a mini jack cable from Anthem emitter out, inn to oppos IR in. th e only thing there is happen, is that my Oppo turns off.
my oppo is out off reach from my remote
post #33760 of 40740
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Originally Posted by p.las View Post
i have tried that on my bdp 83. maby i have connectet it up wrong. can i use the IR eye on my anthem to control my Oppo bdp 83. i have tryed witt a mini jack cable from Anthem emitter out, inn to oppos IR in. th e only thing there is happen, is that my Oppo turns off.
my oppo is out off reach from my remote
According to the D2v manual (sections 2.5, 2.6) the D2v will only send out signals thru its IR emitters that have been received thru the IR receicer on the back of the D2v.
IR signals received thru the IR receiver in the front panel display from a remote or flasher will not be transmitted thru the rear panel IR emitter.

There is the IR-ES1 External IR sensor For BDP-83 available on the Oppo website for $20 that could work for you.

Tom
post #33761 of 40740
The Oppo 83 also uses an unusual cable with mono on one end and stereo on the other end. You can buy it from Oppo for $3 I believe.
post #33762 of 40740
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Originally Posted by BillW View Post

The Oppo 83 also uses an unusual cable with mono on one end and stereo on the other end. You can buy it from Oppo for $3 I believe.

You can plug the BDP-83 cable directly into the RF base station. The stereo end goes into the BDP-83.
post #33763 of 40740
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Originally Posted by MACCA350 View Post

Just had this same problem again yesterday and again it didn't fix with power cycles or changing sources but slowly disappeared after about 30min.

It simply makes no sense at all.

Cheers

This just happened for the third time now. Was able to narrow it down to the center channel, though at first it seemed to affect the others also. Setting to Stereo at first(had to change in the Modes menu) seemed to affect the L/R channels but not to the same degree. After a little while only the center channel was affected, ie stereo sounded fine Mono, or PLIIx or other mode that used the center channel caused this issue to show up.

After a little while, or maybe from the start(cant be certain), any sound out of the center channel was very low in volume and turning volume up caused distortion which sounded like signal clipping or similar to a radio station that's not tuned in right or a loose connection.

I was using the PVR so I switched to the BD player and put in a CD. Same thing, stereo was fine, Mono or PLIIx or other mode(all channel stereo etc) that used the center channel caused this issue to show up. I tried wiggling the XLR connections and cables from D2v to the speakers and that didn't help

So I ruled out the source device, source content, source connections and XLR output cables as the culprit. So I power cycled the center speaker(Seaton Catalyst) a couple of times, problem still present. I leave the Catalysts powered on all the time so there is no possible 'warm up' issue that could be attributed to them.

Next thing I did, with the D2v still running and source playing, was to power off the front Catalysts and put the input cable from the center speaker to the right speaker. Powered them on again and the problem did not follow the cable to the right speaker. Here I thought maybe the problem was the center speaker, that was until I put the cable back to the center speaker......the problem was gone. It would seem my time to diagnose was up(about 30min had passed).

So, anyone else had this kind of an issue. I'm about 95% certain the D2v is causing this problem. There's probably a 5% chance the center Catalyst is to blame. Until this happens again, and it only occures when the D2v has been cold powered on(it's winter here) so won't show up for a while.

I need to be certain before I send it back.

Cheers
post #33764 of 40740
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Originally Posted by MACCA350 View Post


Next thing I did, with the D2v still running and source playing, was to power off the front Catalysts and put the input cable from the center speaker to the right speaker. Powered them on again and the problem did not follow the cable to the right speaker. Here I thought maybe the problem was the center speaker, that was until I put the cable back to the center speaker......the problem was gone. It would seem my time to diagnose was up(about 30min had passed).

So, anyone else had this kind of an issue. I'm about 95% certain the D2v is causing this problem. There's probably a 5% chance the center Catalyst is to blame. Until this happens again, and it only occures when the D2v has been cold powered on(it's winter here) so won't show up for a while.

I need to be certain before I send it back.

Cheers

It seems like it could be an intermittent connection to or within the center speaker and moving the cable made it work again. If I were you I'd find another speaker to put in place of the center for a while.

Maybe you could also try RCA vs XLR outputs from the D2V.

Also instead of swapping with a different speaker just disconnect and reconnect the center.
post #33765 of 40740
I'd physically swap the center with either right or left and see if it moves. That would rule out the Catalysts for sure. Have you asked Mark about this? Maybe it is something he has seen before.
post #33766 of 40740
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

It seems like it could be an intermittent connection to or within the center speaker and moving the cable made it work again. If I were you I'd find another speaker to put in place of the center for a while.

Maybe you could also try RCA vs XLR outputs from the D2V.

Also instead of swapping with a different speaker just disconnect and reconnect the center.

Already wiggled the connections while issue was present and that didn't fix it or change the sound of the issue. Usually you'll hear a change as you wiggle a loose cable or connection.

If/when it happens again I'll disconnect/reconnect the center speaker. If that does nothing I'll connect the center cable to the right speaker. That will eliminate/confirm the possibility of this being caused by the speaker. I'm not swapping out the center speaker unless absolutely nessisary as they weigh a ton.

I highly doubt this is a cable or speaker issue. It only seems to occur when the D2v is cold powered on.

Cheers
post #33767 of 40740
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

I'd physically swap the center with either right or left and see if it moves. That would rule out the Catalysts for sure. Have you asked Mark about this? Maybe it is something he has seen before.

The problem only lasts for about 30min after the D2v is cold powered on, so my time to diagnose is limited. I tried what you suggested by connecting the center channel XLR cable to the right speaker, problem was gone. But when I moved the cable back to the center speaker to confirm the issue was still present the issue was gone. So I cannot confirm whether the issue was fixed during changing the cable to the right speaker or back to the center speaker. In other words I haven't ruled in or out the speaker as my 30min window was up.

Next time I'll perform that check almost straight away so I should be able to confirm the cause component. Haven't spoken to Mark as I don't know if it's the speaker.

Cheers
post #33768 of 40740
Right now, I have a 5.1 ribbon speaker system but I don't feel my horizontally mounted center speaker(directly under the plasma TV) is a good fit(from an audio point of view) even though all speakers are from the same manufacturer. Its about 2.5 feet from the floor while the rest of the speakers are almost 4 feet off the floor.

My question is, what would happen if i go from a 5.1 speaker setup to a 4.1 system, thus eliminating the center speaker? Do i need to re-ARC or simply upload the new setup?


Thanks,
David
post #33769 of 40740
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Right now, I have a 5.1 ribbon speaker system but I don't feel my horizontally mounted center speaker(directly under the plasma TV) is a good fit(from an audio point of view) even though all speakers are from the same manufacturer. Its about 2.5 feet from the floor while the rest of the speakers are almost 4 feet off the floor.

My question is, what would happen if i go from a 5.1 speaker setup to a 4.1 system, thus eliminating the center speaker? Do i need to re-ARC or simply upload the new setup?


Thanks,
David

Depends on your system's ability to image correctly in your seating position(s) as to if you will be good to go with a 4.1 system.

If I am by myself, I frequently turn off the center channel and run a 6.1 system.

You should not need to re-ARC, but if you permanently turn off your center channel speaker, I would because there will be more resources dedicated to the other speakers by not having the center in the set-up.


Ed
post #33770 of 40740
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Right now, I have a 5.1 ribbon speaker system but I don't feel my horizontally mounted center speaker(directly under the plasma TV) is a good fit(from an audio point of view) even though all speakers are from the same manufacturer. Its about 2.5 feet from the floor while the rest of the speakers are almost 4 feet off the floor.

My question is, what would happen if i go from a 5.1 speaker setup to a 4.1 system, thus eliminating the center speaker? Do i need to re-ARC or simply upload the new setup?


Thanks,
David

You shouldn't have to do the measurement part. You could open up your last measurement and remove the center speaker, recalculate and upload.

I'm thinking of trying my system without the center also. I have a second system without the center and it seems to image better than the one with the center.
post #33771 of 40740
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Originally Posted by esander3 View Post

Depends on your system's ability to image correctly in your seating position(s) as to if you will be good to go with a 4.1 system.

If I am by myself, I frequently turn off the center channel and run a 6.1 system.

You should not need to re-ARC, but if you permanently turn off your center channel speaker, I would because there will be more resources dedicated to the other speakers by not having the center in the set-up.


Ed

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Originally Posted by Shrike645 View Post

You shouldn't have to do the measurement part. You could open up your last measurement and remove the center speaker, recalculate and upload.

I'm thinking of trying my system without the center also. I have a second system without the center and it seems to image better than the one with the center.

Thanks Ed and Shrike ...

Now what happens to all that bass and dialog that is directed into the center channel. Would that be panned into the left/right speakers with no overload issues?
post #33772 of 40740
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post
Thanks Ed and Shrike ...

Now what happens to all that bass and dialog that is directed into the center channel. Would that be panned into the left/right speakers with no overload issues?
Suggestion!

Have you tried listening to your music with a music source set as analog direct or DSP in 2 channel Stereo. Then you would get the correct imaging and still have the correct setup for your video sources.
post #33773 of 40740
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

Suggestion!

Have you tried listening to your music with a music source set as analog direct or DSP in 2 channel Stereo. Then you would get the correct imaging and still have the correct setup for your video sources.

Actually yes, i have done so. But music stereo sources are coded different than movie sources which have lots of info placed in the center channel. So my concern was if any bass redirection from the (absent) center speaker would go to the LT/RT speakers causing possible overload.
post #33774 of 40740
Has anyone else noticed this minor bug?

When feeding the Anthem with DTS-ES 6.1 Discrete the front panel sometimes displays "DTS 2.0 DISCRETE" text ... usually after pausing or skipping chapters on the DVD. It is purely a display glitch because pressing the INFO button shows that it is receiving and outputting the correct 7 or 8 channels. Pressing the INFO button or nudging the volume control causes the front panel display to refresh to the correct "DTS-ES 6.1 DISCRETE" text.

I have reported it to Tech Support...
post #33775 of 40740
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

the front panel sometimes displays "DTS 2.0 DISCRETE" text ... usually when pausing or skipping chapters on the DVD.

How do you expect it to handle audio when Pausing & Skipping
post #33776 of 40740
Sorry I meant:

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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

the front panel sometimes displays "DTS 2.0 DISCRETE" text ... usually after pausing or skipping chapters on the DVD.
post #33777 of 40740
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Sorry I meant:

That is way different.

Does it come back to normal AFTER the SKIP or PAUSE.
post #33778 of 40740
No, it will stay that way for the rest of the movie unless you do something that forces the display text to update.
post #33779 of 40740
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

No, it will stay that way for the rest of the movie unless you do something that forces the display text to update.

Then that does sound like a BUG.

Have you e-mail Anthem?
post #33780 of 40740
Yes but I was asking in case anyone else has seen this, if they could e-mail Anthem too.
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