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post #35551 of 40764
Now, that football is over for today, the wife decided that she wanted to listen to some music for a little while. So, I turned on some tones for her, and she sits in my spot. After the first couple of songs, she says to me "Honey, why is sound only coming from the speaker in the middle and not from the two tall speakers"? I look at her with a smile on my face and said, the middle speaker is not on. She says "Yes it is. That's the only one that I hear sound coming from". I said no, really, it's not on, and I told her to walk up to it and put her ear to it, and she did. Her jaw almost hits the floor in disbelief, and she say "Oh My God, it's not on. How did you do that". I told her it's that little black box that's on the rack that has "Anthem" on it and it's using something that's called "ARC" to make that happen. Her response really, that little thing is making that happen? I said yes, and she said, well in that case, make sure you keep it. Now, I can't get her out of my spot.
post #35552 of 40764
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I had this problem with a few dim characters just after I performed a firmware upgrade. I was panicking because I thought my laptop went into standby during the video portion of it, which can't be interrupted! So I immediately redid the upgrade and all was well. I'm still not sure what happened.

I just installed firmware 2.11 (had 2.10) and the display issue is still there. I'm a little nervous installing 2.11x so will hold off. Knowing my luck it will brick the unit.

Thanks for the reply.
post #35553 of 40764
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Originally Posted by MStanic View Post

I have a question regarding the audio that I should be receiving via my Sonos ZP90 and Apple TV. For example, I have both connected digitally with the ZP90 using Coaxial in the CD input and set to "Dig Coax CD" for the "Audio In" setting while the Apple TV is connected via HDMI using the DVD input and set to "Dig HDMI" for the "Audio In:" setting of the "Source Setup" section of the D2V.

When I stream music, from Sonos (subscribe to RDIO for example) or my iTunes library I am only getting 2ch coming out so I can only engage 2ch PLIIx for example. I cannot change the mode to anything but 2ch modes. Is it correct for it to read as 2ch? If it is, then I guess I use the various sound modes to enchance 2ch (ie. Neo6, PLIIx, etc).

What about when you airplay. For example, I have an Airport Express connected purely for Airplaying. I can send it to ALL ZONES in my house but it is connected to the mini RCA of the Airport Express and then to the mini RCA of a C4 HC300 receiver which is connected to the D2V. Thanks.

Most music is stereo (2 Channel) unless you are talking about SACD or DVD-A and those generally aren't streamed. So yes you have to apply PLIIx or NEO-6 to get additional channels. Give Anthem-Music a shot too it does a good job with 2 channel music.

As far as video/audio it really depends on the provider.
post #35554 of 40764
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post


Thanks, we'll try it in-house likely with 1080p for Custom, or VGA variants for JVC-based projectors.

The other side-effect I noticed is the VXP menu does not report what is being output in the INFO section. It says "unknown". Also it does not respond to Frame Lock selection.

Thanks
post #35555 of 40764
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

Now, that football is over for today, the wife decided that she wanted to listen to some music for a little while. So, I turned on some tones for her, and she sits in my spot. After the first couple of songs, she says to me "Honey, why is sound only coming from the speaker in the middle and not from the two tall speakers"? I look at her with a smile on my face and said, the middle speaker is not on. She says "Yes it is. That's the only one that I hear sound coming from". I said no, really, it's not on, and I told her to walk up to it and put her ear to it, and she did. Her jaw almost hits the floor in disbelief, and she say "Oh My God, it's not on. How did you do that". I told her it's that little black box that's on the rack that has "Anthem" on it and it's using something that's called "ARC" to make that happen. Her response really, that little thing is making that happen? I said yes, and she said, well in that case, make sure you keep it. Now, I can't get her out of my spot.

Isn't correct imaging a wonderful thing? I have trouble listening to systems that can't get that right.
John
post #35556 of 40764
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Isn't correct imaging a wonderful thing? I have trouble listening to systems that can't get that right.
John

Yes it is. And, it's even better when the wife likes it which makes upgrading a lot easier.
post #35557 of 40764
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post


Yes it is. And, it's even better when the wife likes it which makes upgrading a lot easier.

I've had a similar experience when I got ARC for my AVM50. Wife approval is like a great review from Secrets of Home Theater
John
post #35558 of 40764
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Yes but no OSD.

Side question. The second HDMI output on the D2v does not have the OSD as well? I just hooked up a projector to the second output (with my plasma hooked up to the first HDMI output) and noticed no OSD on the projector. I'm thinking of using an HDMI splitter to keep the OSD on both display devices.
post #35559 of 40764
there is only OSD on the first HDMI that is normal it is not on the second

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Originally Posted by seang86s View Post

Side question. The second HDMI output on the D2v does not have the OSD as well? I just hooked up a projector to the second output (with my plasma hooked up to the first HDMI output) and noticed no OSD on the projector. I'm thinking of using an HDMI splitter to keep the OSD on both display devices.
post #35560 of 40764
You have just been blessed my son!!! wow go buy someother good AV stuff while the "mood" is right!! run Forrest run!!


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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

Now, that football is over for today, the wife decided that she wanted to listen to some music for a little while. So, I turned on some tones for her, and she sits in my spot. After the first couple of songs, she says to me "Honey, why is sound only coming from the speaker in the middle and not from the two tall speakers"? I look at her with a smile on my face and said, the middle speaker is not on. She says "Yes it is. That's the only one that I hear sound coming from". I said no, really, it's not on, and I told her to walk up to it and put her ear to it, and she did. Her jaw almost hits the floor in disbelief, and she say "Oh My God, it's not on. How did you do that". I told her it's that little black box that's on the rack that has "Anthem" on it and it's using something that's called "ARC" to make that happen. Her response really, that little thing is making that happen? I said yes, and she said, well in that case, make sure you keep it. Now, I can't get her out of my spot.
post #35561 of 40764
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

Now, that football is over for today, the wife decided that she wanted to listen to some music for a little while. So, I turned on some tones for her, and she sits in my spot. After the first couple of songs, she says to me "Honey, why is sound only coming from the speaker in the middle and not from the two tall speakers"? I look at her with a smile on my face and said, the middle speaker is not on. She says "Yes it is. That's the only one that I hear sound coming from". I said no, really, it's not on, and I told her to walk up to it and put her ear to it, and she did. Her jaw almost hits the floor in disbelief, and she say "Oh My God, it's not on. How did you do that". I told her it's that little black box that's on the rack that has "Anthem" on it and it's using something that's called "ARC" to make that happen. Her response really, that little thing is making that happen? I said yes, and she said, well in that case, make sure you keep it. Now, I can't get her out of my spot.

The next time your wife is out of the house re-run ARC, using your new seat as the #1 mic position.
Don't tell your wife. Let her keep thinking that she's in the 'sweet spot' seat.

Its a win-win.

Tom
post #35562 of 40764
I am having an issue running ARC on my D2V whereby the test tone/application goes into a continous loop on any random speaker in any of the five random positions and it will not stop emitting the test tone. It simply does not go onto the next speaker and just remains locked on the specified speaker with the test tone continously emitting. No error occurs and the only way to stop the test tone from emitting is to power off the D2V. I then end the ARC program on the laptop. This happens on two laptops so I don't believe it's the laptop or software. At this point, I am lucky if I can get through a complete sweep of ARC without this issue occurring regularly.

Attached, is the latest results from running ARC on my D2V. This one, was on position 2 or 3 when suddenly no sound emitted after moving onto the next speaker in sequence. When it finished the L,C,R test tones, it continued to the right surround but no sound/beep for about 10 seconds. After that ARC returned a problem message and allowed me to say to continue. It all completed okay after that. Attached are the charts from this result. Let me what you think of the results.

The usual problem is with the sound just locking on one speaker and not moving onto the next one. I am running the latest D2V firmware, ARC latest software and using the Keyspan USB Serial Adapter from Anthem. I have reported the issue to Anthem but they are not sure what's up yet.
LL
LL
post #35563 of 40764
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Originally Posted by Texas steve View Post

You have just been blessed my son!!! wow go buy someother good AV stuff while the "mood" is right!! run Forrest run!!

Yes, I have been blessed above and beyond!!!! As for the good AV stuff, I am good with what I have for a long long long time; but, when it's time for me to upgrade, I think I have built myself a good case.
post #35564 of 40764
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

The next time your wife is out of the house re-run ARC, using your new seat as the #1 mic position.
Don't tell your wife. Let her keep thinking that she's in the 'sweet spot' seat.

Its a win-win.

Tom

She is being nice to me tonight since the BCS National Championship is on. I'm back in the sweet seat; but, your idea is a good one. I will have to remember that.
post #35565 of 40764
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Originally Posted by MStanic View Post

I am having an issue running ARC on my D2V whereby the test tone/application goes into a continous loop on any random speaker in any of the five random positions and it will not stop emitting the test tone. It simply does not go onto the next speaker and just remains locked on the specified speaker with the test tone continously emitting. No error occurs and the only way to stop the test tone from emitting is to power off the D2V. I then end the ARC program on the laptop. This happens on two laptops so I don't believe it's the laptop or software. At this point, I am lucky if I can get through a complete sweep of ARC without this issue occurring regularly.

Attached, is the latest results from running ARC on my D2V. This one, was on position 2 or 3 when suddenly no sound emitted after moving onto the next speaker in sequence. When it finished the L,C,R test tones, it continued to the right surround but no sound/beep for about 10 seconds. After that ARC returned a problem message and allowed me to say to continue. It all completed okay after that. Attached are the charts from this result. Let me what you think of the results.

The usual problem is with the sound just locking on one speaker and not moving onto the next one. I am running the latest D2V firmware, ARC latest software and using the Keyspan USB Serial Adapter from Anthem. I have reported the issue to Anthem but they are not sure what's up yet.

Your charts look good. The only small problem I see is with your Right Front (RF). It's having problems between 100 Hz and 400 Hz. Is it close to a wall or a corner? If so, you can try moving it away from the corner and/or wall to see if that fixes your problem. If you do decide to do move your RF, you can use Quick Measure (QM) to see if it fixes the problem. If it does, then you will have to re-run ARC. However, what you have right now should sound pretty good. So, I suggest you listen to what you have for a while and then decide if you would like to tweak.

Also, please post your Targets' View.

What kind of sub do you have? It looks really really really good. It looks so good that it gets my vote for the Sub Hall of Fame. It looks like it qualifies for the Flat Setting as long as it has LF protection. If you have it set to Auto, you can change it to Flat by bringing up your Targets' View, click on the Advance push button, change Auto to Flat, click Ok, click Calculate, save your ARC file, upload it to your D2V, and save User and/or Installer Settings.

As for the continuous test sweeps, that did happen to me once. I stopped the measurements and rebooted my PC and the problem did not occur anymore. It seems your problem is different from mine because you said that you used a different PC, and the problem still occurred. Hopefully, Anthem or someone on this forum will be able to figure it out for you.
post #35566 of 40764
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post


Your charts look good. The only small problem I see is with your Right Front (RF). It's having problems between 100 Hz and 400 Hz. Is it close to a wall or a corner? If so, you can try moving it away from the corner and/or wall to see if that fixes your problem. If you do decide to do move your RF, you can use Quick Measure (QM) to see if it fixes the problem. If it does, then you will have to re-run ARC. However, what you have right now should sound pretty good. So, I suggest you listen to what you have for a while and then decide if you would like to tweak.

Also, please post your Targets' View.

What kind of sub do you have? It looks really really really good. It looks so good that it gets my vote for the Sub Hall of Fame. It looks like it qualifies for the Flat Setting as long as it has LF protection. If you have it set to Auto, you can change it to Flat by bringing up your Targets' View, click on the Advance push button, change Auto to Flat, click Ok, click Calculate, save your ARC file, upload it to your D2V, and save User and/or Installer Settings.

As for the continuous test sweeps, that did happen to me once. I stopped the measurements and rebooted my PC and the problem did not occur anymore. It seems your problem is different from mine because you said that you used a different PC, and the problem still occurred. Hopefully, Anthem or someone on this forum will be able to figure it out for you.

+1 on the sub.
John
post #35567 of 40764
Hi all,

I'm having a little issue with my system that I am hoping someone can help shed some light on.

The source is an Oppo BDP-95, and I am trying to use the dual HDMI outputs on it to send the video to my Lumagen Radiance XS, and the audio to my D2v, however when I play a blu-ray through this set-up I get severe stuttering and frame dropping on the video.

If I unplug the HDMI from the D2v and switch all components off/on the video plays smoothly.

My other alternative is to route both the video and audio through the Radiance and then use the second HDMI output on the Radiance to send the audio back to the D2v. If I do this the D2v reports the bitstream audio as 2 channel PCM. (Lumagen support have comfirmed that the Radiance has no physical ability to alter the bitstream).

Does anyone have any idea what might be going on here as I am at a bit of a loss?

My final possible option is to route everything through the D2v and then send the video out to the Lumagen, but I am concerned if this extra processing step may affect image quality?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Gareth
post #35568 of 40764
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Originally Posted by MStanic View Post

I am having an issue running ARC on my D2V whereby the test tone/application goes into a continous loop on any random speaker in any of the five random positions and it will not stop emitting the test tone. It simply does not go onto the next speaker and just remains locked on the specified speaker with the test tone continously emitting. No error occurs and the only way to stop the test tone from emitting is to power off the D2V. I then end the ARC program on the laptop. This happens on two laptops so I don't believe it's the laptop or software. At this point, I am lucky if I can get through a complete sweep of ARC without this issue occurring regularly.

Attached, is the latest results from running ARC on my D2V. This one, was on position 2 or 3 when suddenly no sound emitted after moving onto the next speaker in sequence. When it finished the L,C,R test tones, it continued to the right surround but no sound/beep for about 10 seconds. After that ARC returned a problem message and allowed me to say to continue. It all completed okay after that. Attached are the charts from this result. Let me what you think of the results.

The usual problem is with the sound just locking on one speaker and not moving onto the next one. I am running the latest D2V firmware, ARC latest software and using the Keyspan USB Serial Adapter from Anthem. I have reported the issue to Anthem but they are not sure what's up yet.

I had that same problem a while back and Bob suggested that I turn off my firewall during ARC runs.
It worked. I haven't had any problem since.

I also turn off my firewall during firmware upgrades with my D2 and it seems to go much faster without any error messages.
I stick a postit on my laptop to remind me to turn it back on when I'm done with ARC.

I assume this problem is specific to certain firewalls (I use the firewall in Bitdefender) and many people don't have this problem, but it might be worth a try the next time you run ARC.

Tom
post #35569 of 40764
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Originally Posted by gdavies09031977 View Post

Hi all,

I'm having a little issue with my system that I am hoping someone can help shed some light on.

The source is an Oppo BDP-95, and I am trying to use the dual HDMI outputs on it to send the video to my Lumagen Radiance XS, and the audio to my D2v, however when I play a blu-ray through this set-up I get severe stuttering and frame dropping on the video.

If I unplug the HDMI from the D2v and switch all components off/on the video plays smoothly.

My other alternative is to route both the video and audio through the Radiance and then use the second HDMI output on the Radiance to send the audio back to the D2v. If I do this the D2v reports the bitstream audio as 2 channel PCM. (Lumagen support have comfirmed that the Radiance has no physical ability to alter the bitstream).

Does anyone have any idea what might be going on here as I am at a bit of a loss?

My final possible option is to route everything through the D2v and then send the video out to the Lumagen, but I am concerned if this extra processing step may affect image quality?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Gareth

Use the Lumagen as a switcher. Feed the audio back to the Anthem. There are some settings in the Lumagen that allow for the audio to be passed back without issue but I don't recall them off the top of my head and I'm at work. I had this same issue for a bit and resolved it by calling Lumagen. They knew which settings to change. Sorry for being vague, I just don't have the stuff in front of me.
post #35570 of 40764
There is also a post in the OPPO threads indicating that the Lumagen is sensitive to the HDMI cables being TOO SHORT.

Try 6 foot, high speed, HDMI cables for the Lumagen input and output to see if that cures the video issue.

Use HDMI 1 from the OPPO for the video -- the connector in the middle of the back panel. Set Primary Output to HDMI 1. Try 1080p/24 OFF. Try HDMI Deep Color OFF. Also try 1080i output. If 1080i works but 1080p does not, that suggests a cable problem. Since HDMI is an end to end protocol, the problem may be the cable to your display.
--Bob
post #35571 of 40764
Hi All,
I'm sure it is posted in this thread somewhere, however I've been looking for 45 min and can't find anything. I just ran ARC the latest version on my D2 and when I initially switch to a source I loose the center channel, at which point I have to change the input and then change it back for the sound to return. This never happened prior to ARC. Is there something I'm missing or is this a known issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Joe
post #35572 of 40764
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

I had that same problem a while back and Bob suggested that I turn off my firewall during ARC runs.
It worked. I haven't had any problem since.

I also turn off my firewall during firmware upgrades with my D2 and it seems to go much faster without any error messages.
I stick a postit on my laptop to remind me to turn it back on when I'm done with ARC.

I assume this problem is specific to certain firewalls (I use the firewall in Bitdefender) and many people don't have this problem, but it might be worth a try the next time you run ARC.

Tom

Thanks. What about devices as I have a very busy network with a full blown Control 4 System integrated with numerous Sonos devices. For example, the problem seems to have started after a C4 HC300 receiver, Sonos ZP90 and two network switches were installed in the same rack as my D2V. There are plenty more devices (Sonos and C4) throughout the whole household also on the same wired/wireless network. They are all ON when I run ARC so could they be interfering?
post #35573 of 40764
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

Your charts look good. The only small problem I see is with your Right Front (RF). It's having problems between 100 Hz and 400 Hz. Is it close to a wall or a corner? If so, you can try moving it away from the corner and/or wall to see if that fixes your problem. If you do decide to do move your RF, you can use Quick Measure (QM) to see if it fixes the problem. If it does, then you will have to re-run ARC. However, what you have right now should sound pretty good. So, I suggest you listen to what you have for a while and then decide if you would like to tweak.

Also, please post your Targets' View.

What kind of sub do you have? It looks really really really good. It looks so good that it gets my vote for the Sub Hall of Fame. It looks like it qualifies for the Flat Setting as long as it has LF protection. If you have it set to Auto, you can change it to Flat by bringing up your Targets' View, click on the Advance push button, change Auto to Flat, click Ok, click Calculate, save your ARC file, upload it to your D2V, and save User and/or Installer Settings.

As for the continuous test sweeps, that did happen to me once. I stopped the measurements and rebooted my PC and the problem did not occur anymore. It seems your problem is different from mine because you said that you used a different PC, and the problem still occurred. Hopefully, Anthem or someone on this forum will be able to figure it out for you.


Thanks for the input. Attached, is my targets view. As far as the RF speaker, I can't really move it left or right because of the screen and the fireplace and mantle next to it (very tight fit). If I move it out/forward a bit might it make a difference? See Left/Right speaker pics.

As for a sub, I have the Paradigm SUB 15. What does it mean if I change the sub to flat as you suggest? I'm glad my sub makes it into the Hall of Subs
LL
LL
LL
post #35574 of 40764
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Originally Posted by MStanic View Post

Thanks for the input. Attached, is my targets view. As far as the RF speaker, I can't really move it left or right because of the screen and the fireplace and mantle next to it (very tight fit). If I move it out/forward a bit might it make a difference? See Left/Right speaker pics.

As for a sub, I have the Paradigm SUB 15. What does it mean if I change the sub to flat as you suggest? I'm glad my sub makes it into the Hall of Subs

You should set your sub to Flat. The Flat setting causes ARC to not roll off the low frequencies and just send them to your sub. This allows you to feel a little more oomph from your sub. Since your sub has built-in protection, it will not try to play any low frequencies that is below its' limit. So, try it out and see if you like it. You *DO NOT* have to rerun ARC if you set it to Flat. Just Calculate and upload your ARC File.

You can try moving your front speakers forward a little and toeing them in towards your listening area. You don't have to toe them in too much. Just a little should be fine. You can use Quick Measure to see the results of moving them forward and toeing them in. If it doesn't show any improvement or make them worse, then you can move them back to their current location. So, make sure you mark the current location before you move them so that you can put them back. If you move them back to their current location, then you will have to upload your ARC File again because Quick Measure will zero out some of your previous ARC settings. If you see that moving your front speakers out and toeing them in still makes your LF look good and it fixes the problem area between 100 Hz and 400 Hz for your RF, then you will have to rerun ARC again.

I hope this was helpful and good luck to you.
post #35575 of 40764
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Originally Posted by MStanic View Post

Thanks. What about devices as I have a very busy network with a full blown Control 4 System integrated with numerous Sonos devices. For example, the problem seems to have started after a C4 HC300 receiver, Sonos ZP90 and two network switches were installed in the same rack as my D2V. There are plenty more devices (Sonos and C4) throughout the whole household also on the same wired/wireless network. They are all ON when I run ARC so could they be interfering?

I do not have nearly the network devices that you do, and am in no way a computer whiz.
All I can say is that when I was having problems with ARC like your's (stuck on one speaker running the sweeps over and over....) those problems disappeared after I disabled my firewall during ARC runs and uploads, and Anthem firmware upgrades went much quicker and smoother with the firewall off.

Can't garantee it will work for you, but its easy enough to try the next time you run ARC.
Hope it helps.
Just remember to turn your firewall back on after your done.

Tom

Also, what Ninja 12 said about repositioning your RF speaker with the help of Quick Measure is excellent advice.
Even a few inches could make a big difference, and if the difference is for the better then you can re-run ARC.
If you do re-run ARC, try turning off your firewall and see if that solves that problem.
post #35576 of 40764
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post


I do not have nearly the network devices that you do, and am in no way a computer whiz.
All I can say is that when I was having problems with ARC like your's (stuck on one speaker running the sweeps over and over....) those problems disappeared after I disabled my firewall during ARC runs and uploads, and Anthem firmware upgrades went much quicker and smoother with the firewall off.

Can't garantee it will work for you, but its easy enough to try the next time you run ARC.
Hope it helps.
Just remember to turn your firewall back on after your done.

Tom

I've found turning off my wireless connection helps too.
John
post #35577 of 40764
Scratch my last post. It's just happening with my oppo BDP-93. I'm sending audio to my D2 via HDMI LPCM and I loss the center channel every once and a while since I ran arc. I need to switch the input to another and back for it to start working again. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Joe
post #35578 of 40764
Update on the front display of my D2v. I've spoken to the place of purchase and they have arranged to have the display replaced at the nominated service provider. Should be done on the same day so wont be without it for long. Now to pack it up and arrange a courier.

Great service.
post #35579 of 40764
Quote:
Originally Posted by MStanic View Post

Thanks for the input. Attached, is my targets view. As far as the RF speaker, I can't really move it left or right because of the screen and the fireplace and mantle next to it (very tight fit). If I move it out/forward a bit might it make a difference? See Left/Right speaker pics.

As for a sub, I have the Paradigm SUB 15. What does it mean if I change the sub to flat as you suggest? I'm glad my sub makes it into the Hall of Subs

I second the recommendation to toe in your front speakers - they are awfully close to the walls.

Your sub must be placed well though - Where is it? Mine (Mirage BPS-400) is in front under the screen and it has a little 30 Hz hump. I have not set it to flat yet.

PS - nice Stewart screen, I have the same one
post #35580 of 40764
Why does firewall and wireless seem to affect the execution of ARC? This makes no sense to me. No offense and I know many have made this observation but it is bordering on superstition! Perhaps Anthem software engineers should investigate.
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