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post #38941 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Thxtheater View Post

Bob, that's interesting. Is what you're describing specific to BRAVE or Blurays in general and how they have been authored. I've had the dropouts on a wide-variety of blurays. From Thor to the Muppets movie to rental disks too (if I recall). Never happens at the same time stamp and always well into the movie... 45 min to 1 hour plus.

What I was describing was specific to the newly released Blu-ray for "Brave".

The point is, problems like this can also be disc problems or player problems. For rental discs, the problems can simply be due to damaged or dirty discs.

As usual, if you are experiencing frequent dropouts, you should investigate whether HDMI cabling is the cause. Start by trying a reduced bandwidth signal -- e.g., 1080i. If that works but 1080p does not then that's a pretty good sign marginal cabling is involved.
--Bob
post #38942 of 42717
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Originally Posted by airboyd View Post

The manuals online are very unclear and my forum searches have been even more vague. I'd be happy to start the official discussion that SACD works over older HDMI though smile.gif

Then again the search on this forum has gotten so hard to do, because the thread is so long.

I'm thinking about holding out for the new Oppo and would love it if my SACDs are fine and it decodes 7.1 so that my D2 has a life.

SACD will work fine into the D2 when the player is set to send out LPCM for that. It will come in as 88.2KHz LPCM (2.0 or 5.1 depending on what you play from the SACD).

However, the D2 does not accept 7.1 audio input at all. The player will send out LPCM 5.1 if you play a 7.1 track. To get HDMI 7.1 audio input (LPCM or Bitstream) you will need an AVM 50v or D2v.

Similarly, the D2 can not accept 192KHz digital audio input. You'd need the new processor for that.
--Bob
post #38943 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

SACD will work fine into the D2 when the player is set to send out LPCM for that. It will come in as 88.2KHz LPCM (2.0 or 5.1 depending on what you play from the SACD).
However, the D2 does not accept 7.1 audio input at all. The player will send out LPCM 5.1 if you play a 7.1 track. To get HDMI 7.1 audio input (LPCM or Bitstream) you will need an AVM 50v or D2v.
Similarly, the D2 can not accept 192KHz digital audio input. You'd need the new processor for that.
--Bob

Yep, got it about 7.1.

Glad to hear the SACD will work. I spent well over an hour trying to work it out and 5 minutes here and it's done.

Thanks.
post #38944 of 42717
Also keep in mind 7.1 only comes into play on blu-ray (you can bitstream 7.1 DVDs). You can apply DPIIx to the 7.1 BDs and I doubt you would hear much if any difference.

Lots of Oppo owners in this thread. I personally have a BDP 83, 93 and a new 103 and their DVD players before that...it's habit forming. biggrin.gif
Edited by obie_fl - 11/19/12 at 3:09pm
post #38945 of 42717
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Originally Posted by airboyd View Post

The manuals online are very unclear and my forum searches have been even more vague. I'd be happy to start the official discussion that SACD works over older HDMI though smile.gif
Then again the search on this forum has gotten so hard to do, because the thread is so long.
I'm thinking about holding out for the new Oppo and would love it if my SACDs are fine and it decodes 7.1 so that my D2 has a life.

I'm the same as Tom. I have the DVD player read the SACD and convert to LPCM output over HDMI to the D2. The Oppo does this just fine.
Edited by Shrike645 - 11/20/12 at 12:14pm
post #38946 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Thxtheater View Post

I've also experienced that "drop out" with Blurays with my AVM50v. What happens with me is it's as though the HDMI handshake is resynchronizing. If you look at the display on the Anthem, it will lose all input parameters and then everything like 1080p, and audio signal will come back. I've purchased brand new Tributaries HDMI cables from my dealer (they recommended these), BlueJeans cables, and used Monoprice cables as additional test beds because they are cheaper. I've had the issue with all of them. I have a pretty large inventory of HDMI cables as a result of all my attempts.
My unit was sent back to Anthem and came back clear; however, I've had anomalies with signal from my Oppo BDP-83 (only BluRays) and going from there to my display as you saw. Just can't figure it out. My sense is the dealer had issues too as they told me, "The Anthem is very sensitive to HDMI cables [vs other brands]". Not sure I believe that specific statement; however, I've always been a proponent of getting certified and good quality cables.
I'm curious: if you change the display settings as I indicated, do you also lose video?

I am using a BDP-83 too but what you describe sounds more like a BLACKOUT as opposed to the momentary dropout that I experienced. As Bob said that was most likely just a disc issue (Brave BD) and that's what it felt like. It might be time to get a new player finally.

What I'm more concerned about is why the new 3D board doesn't work with my old color depth setting of 8-bit. I now have to use AUTO for it to work which goes against the troubleshooting advice we keep writing here. So to answer your question, no I never completely lose video but I cannot truly perform your test because I get an ugly menu as soon as I select anything other than AUTO for color depth.
post #38947 of 42717
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Originally Posted by airboyd View Post

Glad to hear the SACD will work. I spent well over an hour trying to work it out and 5 minutes here and it's done.
Thanks.

Make sure you don't get a Sony player, although they are nice to use, they output SACD at 176k/16-bit which your D2 will not be happy with.
The Oppos are safe, as Bob said they output 88k/24-bit which will be awesome. You'll be glad your old analog output player died biggrin.gif
post #38948 of 42717
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

I am using a BDP-83 too but what you describe sounds more like a BLACKOUT as opposed to the momentary dropout that I experienced. As Bob said that was most likely just a disc issue (Brave BD) and that's what it felt like. It might be time to get a new player finally.

What I'm more concerned about is why the new 3D board doesn't work with my old color depth setting of 8-bit. I now have to use AUTO for it to work which goes against the troubleshooting advice we keep writing here. So to answer your question, no I never completely lose video but I cannot truly perform your test because I get an ugly menu as soon as I select anything other than AUTO for color depth.

I use 8-bit all the time. No problem here.
--Bob
post #38949 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

Are you sure that the sub crawl method is compatible with multiple subs? I would think that if one were applying Welti placement practices for 2 subs, either one alone may not respond as the best location, but both taken together would yield superior results due to the cross modal cancellations.

 

You are correct but the OP has tried a version of the Welti placement and has so far produced so-so results in his room. My suggestion of finding the optimal placement of both individual speakers using the sub-crawl technique is another alternative. I'm assuming the resulting placements are fairly acceptable within the HT space. The phase knob of SUB1 would be set to zero and phase knob of SUB2 would be adjusted for the most even and extended frequency response.

post #38950 of 42717
Apologies for taking an off-topic (ish) diversion here......

So with all this talk of mastering issues and Oppo players, it set me off thinking about what I was missing by not having the Oppo, or indeed any other player.

I rip all my movies (bit-for-bit copies) to a server, and access them - stream them - to my D2V via a Dune Player. It works brilliantly.

So am I in any way compromising quality by doing this? I assume not as I am effectively passing bit-perfect data to the D2V.

What would having a player like the Oppo add to my system. Am I missing anything?
post #38951 of 42717
Does somene have a quick link to the ARC setup cheet sheet Bob has posted ( many many times)

Thanks
post #38952 of 42717
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Originally Posted by spiderv6 View Post

Apologies for taking an off-topic (ish) diversion here......
So with all this talk of mastering issues and Oppo players, it set me off thinking about what I was missing by not having the Oppo, or indeed any other player.
I rip all my movies (bit-for-bit copies) to a server, and access them - stream them - to my D2V via a Dune Player. It works brilliantly.
So am I in any way compromising quality by doing this? I assume not as I am effectively passing bit-perfect data to the D2V.
What would having a player like the Oppo add to my system. Am I missing anything?

I too rip all my movies to a server for playback via my HTPC. I had the Oppo-93 for awhile, but have since sold it after ISO support disappeared. My HTPC/DV2 combo produces a picture just as nice as the Oppo did, to my eyes. The server/streamer combo provides easier access to content in my house. The Oppo is nice, but for my usage it wasn't the best. I also rip all my music to FLAC and play it with a SqueezeBox.
post #38953 of 42717
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Originally Posted by gerard1meehan View Post

Does somene have a quick link to the ARC setup cheet sheet Bob has posted ( many many times)
Thanks
Here's one from way back in the day: http://www.avsforum.com/t/678260/anthem-d2-d2v-avm50-avm50v-arc1-tweaking-guide/28920#post_18914184
post #38954 of 42717
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Originally Posted by facke02 View Post

I too rip all my movies to a server for playback via my HTPC. I had the Oppo-93 for awhile, but have since sold it after ISO support disappeared. My HTPC/DV2 combo produces a picture just as nice as the Oppo did, to my eyes. The server/streamer combo provides easier access to content in my house. The Oppo is nice, but for my usage it wasn't the best. I also rip all my music to FLAC and play it with a SqueezeBox.

The bluray video quality should be OK but are you really able to listen to DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD audio with your HTPC setup.
Usually if you can bitstream the audio from your HTPC and have the D2v decode the audio you will have no problems
post #38955 of 42717
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

The bluray video quality should be OK but are you really able to listen to DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD audio with your HTPC setup.
Usually if you can bitstream the audio from your HTPC and have the D2v decode the audio you will have no problems

Yes, my HTPC can Bitstream DTS HD Master and Dolby True HD with no problems and the D2v decodes it. Bitstreaming on the HTPC has been fairly easy to do now for several years with the latest chipsets.
post #38956 of 42717
using 3.09h on my D2v
i am hearing crunching/static on my main LF/RF speakers when i am not playing anything (2 different HDMI inputs) - fairly low, but quite noticeable when you get up close to them

mark
post #38957 of 42717
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

I am using a BDP-83 too but what you describe sounds more like a BLACKOUT as opposed to the momentary dropout that I experienced. As Bob said that was most likely just a disc issue (Brave BD) and that's what it felt like. It might be time to get a new player finally.
What I'm more concerned about is why the new 3D board doesn't work with my old color depth setting of 8-bit. I now have to use AUTO for it to work which goes against the troubleshooting advice we keep writing here. So to answer your question, no I never completely lose video but I cannot truly perform your test because I get an ugly menu as soon as I select anything other than AUTO for color depth.

Yes, mine is certainly a blackout.
post #38958 of 42717
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Originally Posted by mkaye View Post

using 3.09h on my D2v
i am hearing crunching/static on my main LF/RF speakers when i am not playing anything (2 different HDMI inputs) - fairly low, but quite noticeable when you get up close to them
mark

site only shows Beta "F" are you sure you got H?  I just checked

post #38959 of 42717
sorry, you are right 'F'
no problems with previous versions (beta or otherwise)

mark
post #38960 of 42717
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Originally Posted by mkaye View Post

using 3.09h on my D2v
i am hearing crunching/static on my main LF/RF speakers when i am not playing anything (2 different HDMI inputs) - fairly low, but quite noticeable when you get up close to them

mark

At the back of the D2v, swap, e.g., the LF output plug and the LS plug. If the problem stays in LF then the problem is in something external to the D2v (cables, amps, speakers leading to LF). If the problem moves to LS, then give Anthem tech support a call. There are additional diagnostic steps you can then take to isolate how that noise is getting to the D2v's outputs -- checking whether the noise changes with Volume setting, and disconnecting all other connections to make sure you are not hearing artifacts from a ground loop for example, but that sort of stuff is usually best done with someone on the phone walking you through the logical steps.
--Bob
post #38961 of 42717
I am unable to upgrade my software using windows 7 and usb serial converter through port 6
But doesn't recognise the amp
Any suggestions I have tried three serial cables (straight through)
post #38962 of 42717
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Originally Posted by nrwatson View Post

I am unable to upgrade my software using windows 7 and usb serial converter through port 6
But doesn't recognise the amp
Any suggestions I have tried three serial cables (straight through)

Did you Reset Factory Defaults prior to trying to do the install? Among other things, that will reset any changes you may have made to the RS-232 settings in the Anthem.

It is recommended that you use the Keyspan USA-19HS usb/serial adapter. Check in Windows Device Manager to see if it is reporting any problems with the Adapter or with Com Port 6. Check section 3.15 of the Manual for suggested Com Port settings.

If you have another computer you can try this with, do that.

If these suggestions don't lead to a solution, you should probably call Anthem on Monday and let them walk you through diagnosing this.
--Bob
post #38963 of 42717
Hi everybody, I don't know if this was covered previously but I couldn't find in this huge thread.

So here is my problem:
Couple months ago, my dealer got the long waited 3d upgrade kit. I've sent my D2v to their service but after a few days later I was told that my D2v was one of the earlier units and can't be upgraded with the current 3D kit available. They also told me that they've just found out about this issue and will look for ways to do a different upgrade. Well, it has been a few months now and my dealer still doesn't have any info whether the earlier D2v's will be upgraded or not.

Anybody know anything about this issue and when it will be solved? (if Anthem is working on such an upgrade)

Thank You
post #38964 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Murat View Post

Hi everybody, I don't know if this was covered previously but I couldn't find in this huge thread.

So here is my problem:
Couple months ago, my dealer got the long waited 3d upgrade kit. I've sent my D2v to their service but after a few days later I was told that my D2v was one of the earlier units and can't be upgraded with the current 3D kit available. They also told me that they've just found out about this issue and will look for ways to do a different upgrade. Well, it has been a few months now and my dealer still doesn't have any info whether the earlier D2v's will be upgraded or not.

Anybody know anything about this issue and when it will be solved? (if Anthem is working on such an upgrade)

Thank You

Yes, older D2v units need the video board swapped out as part of the upgrade. Anthem has been delivering the upgrades first to people who were promised them at time of purchase, then to folks who wanted to purchase the upgrade and could be upgraded without having to swap out the video board, with that latter upgrade being last. I don't know where they are in getting stock together to do that last type of upgrade.
--Bob
post #38965 of 42717
I got my arc to run finally.It was the USB cable.Perhaps others may find this helpful.
post #38966 of 42717
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Originally Posted by nrwatson View Post

I am unable to upgrade my software using windows 7 and usb serial converter through port 6
But doesn't recognise the amp
Any suggestions I have tried three serial cables (straight through)
A side from what Bob said above. If you have the Keyspan USB, they have new driver on the tripplite.com website, and also I seem to remember that some of the Anthem utility does not like to have the com port mapped to high, I usually keep it between 1 and 4.
post #38967 of 42717
This just recently started happening. As I turn the volume down, normal listening is around -29 db, the on screen display indicates that the volume is reducing, say to -50 db, but the volume is not reducing. Any idea what is going on? I had same issue last night on Z2 and also on Z1 where when I physically turned the volume down via the knob on the receiver, it did not reduce.
post #38968 of 42717
Hey guys, I have a couple quick questions and would love some advice please! My Meridian 561M has been acting up and has finally convinced my wife that it's okay to upgrade (she's the boss it seems.) The thing I loved about the 561 was the 2 channel performance. I was initially looking at one of the MRX recievers, but I she has given me the green light to spend a bit more.

Here is my question. The system will be about 50% music, 30% TV via DirecTV, and 20% blu-ray movies on a new Oppo player (would love advice on that too) and a new 60 inch ST series Panasonic plasma. The processor is going to be paired with 3 McIntosh amps and B&W N802's. I also don't have any interest in 3D.

My system is only 5.1 and I don't see going to 7.1 anytime soon since the room is our living room as well. With all that said, do y'all think the D2 with ARC would be a good processor for my setup? My preference is to either have the Oppo and DirecTV sources be plugged directly into the TV and the audio be sent through the processor. Will the D2 allow through HDMI pass through as well? The other processors I was looking at was the MRX-300, McIntosh MX-120, or doing the older Meridian 568.2MM paired with their HDMI switcher. Obviously, my older processor couldn't handle some of the newer codecs, so I would love to try DVD-A or SACD with the new equipment. I would love everyone's thoughts on this.
post #38969 of 42717
yes
Did reset at beginning thanks
post #38970 of 42717
My TV has an Audio Return Channel on one of the HDMI inputs. I connected that to one of the D2v HDMI input but did not get the TV sound through D2v. I sm trying to get the broadcast TV sound through D2v. Does D2v support Audio Return Channel?
Thanks.
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