Anthem D2/D2v/AVM50/AVM50v/ARC1 tweaking guide - Page 1318

Well something is not right here ... with Oppos 4.3Vrms XLR outputs saturating the Anthem's inputs?

This is what's been driving me crazy the past couple of days. Apparently, the Analog-DSP clips more easily than the Analog-DIR, I guess because it's engaging the digital DSP engine in the Anthem, hence the meter in the setup menu under the analog input trim?
Edited by boyce89976 - 1/5/13 at 8:37pm

Here is the tested response for the SVS PB10-ISD sub
Notice how your ARC follows the same response curve.You cannot change the subs designed in features

Odds are you are looking at the wrong line in the Input Levels menu. I.e., you are looking at a line for a Source with ANALOG-DIRECT set -- by mistake.
--bob

Not true. Guys you are getting yourself tangled up here. This is just cockpit error, nothing more.
--Bob

I have sending anthem a email regards my low volume when the input is multichannel pcm. But no respons After 5 days. Is there more that one email adress to reach them? Thanks

I have tried to reload 3.09 again. But the low pcm volme is still there. What i dó not understand is, it have not allways been a issue in this 3.09 software....Strange

Any scuttlebutt on the new audio formats being adopted by Anthem? DTS Neo X for example....I would imagine that would be a hardware upgrade, no?

Here's hoping we hear something from Anthem at CES. My D2 is getting long in the tooth and I keep running into limitations. I'd really like to see a new platform with IP control, USB (both data/audio) and at least 2 subwoofer channels. I suspect any new platform is still quite a ways out there but you never know.

Yes, I understand - interesting - but did you see my last post after changing it to "Flat" - it looks better to me, in fact. a lot closer to the tested response from TrueRTA at the low end - but I would think it would be flatter out to 200? Or is that drop-off by design (in ARC, I mean):


Thanks for that.

- Mark

I have experienced the same thing. Anthem tech support says D2v tells you what it sees. I gave up.

Just to confirm.....

I SAVED USER AND INSTALLER SETTINGS before reloading new ARC results, and then reloaded the user settings.

I think this is the right way to reload ARC results, correct? It reloads everything but the older ARC, correct. Please confirm.

Also, I removed "NO SPEAKER" for the center channel for my MUSIC configuration, but center speaker still shows up as "Advanced" under speaker configuration for MUSIC. Am I missing something here?

Thanks.

Does anyone know the difference between Analog-Direct mode and Analog-DSP with Room EQ=OFF?

 

With the former, i hear the sound from an uncorrected room and it varies from awful to good, depending on the source material. But i can't seem to hear the difference using Analog-DSP between Room EQ=ON and Room EQ=OFF. Does this sound right?

 

- David

 

Chileboy:

 

The Grounded plane subwoofer test done by TrueRTA was done outside or in an environment where no sound wave reflections would interact with each other and your subwoofer. But the ARC plots show the interaction of your sub with the room so you'll see anamalies including frequency response limits on both ends of the spectrum.

Edited by dmusoke - 1/7/13 at 11:30am

 

Sigh!

Not correct Bob. I'm looking at a source right now set for Analog-DSP and it clipping pink/red regardless of the analog input level setting.

 

While you may see this issue as trivial and possibly much to do about nothing, i'm greatly concerned about distorting my analog signal via clipping(RED?) or soft-limiting (PINK?) by the Anthem as analog is one of my primary listening modes of my D2v.

 

Anyways, i;ve sent mail to Anthem and hopeful someone is there to answer despite CES this week.

dmusoke:

I would like to know if you are able to fix this problem. As I said; I had at length discussions about this with Anthem, and they just said, D2v tells you what it sees, by the way, it happens with my other source Sony ES5400 SACD player as well. I gave up.

Let me know please.

Thanks.

Interesting as I do a lot of analog listening. I will not be at home for several more weeks so I cannot test what is happening on my D2v.
I am anxious to hear Anthem's reply so please give us a followup

OK, that makes sense.

I guess my only question is, am I correct that my results with the "Flat" setting are better than without?

Thanks,

- Mark

Have a question.

How generally one would setup a 5.1 DVD Audio, DVD of a music concert, or a SACD on D2v; with or without center channel (Movie configuration with Center Channel, Music configuration without Center Channel).

Thanks.

 

The 'solution' has been to reduce the volume output of the Oppo player. I do NOT consider this as a viable option as i run the risk of trading Oppo resolution instead. But the bigger question here is who is lying about their I/O analog specs, Oppo or Anthem. Both can't be correct as it currently stands.

 

Mark:

 

In your case and with your subs response, the answer is yes. Flat is better than Auto.

 

Maybe, i just didn't realize but ARC has otherfilter settings than flat or auto. Has anyone tried "1st order", "2nd order", "3rd order" .... "8th order"?

Apparently, you can specify the roll-off (high-end & low end) of your subwoofer via these filters. I wasn't aware they existed.

Have you actually tried it to see what the volume is?

Just set the XLR sourced input level to -6dB in the D2v's Input Level menu and compare to the (0dB adjusted) RCA sourced input level playing the same content (e.g., a calibration disc) and using an SPL meter.

I guarantee you there is not a 20dB (or greater) difference.
--Bob

 

You should be able to easily select/de-select the speakers you want or don't want turned on in the initial setup screen.

In my case I use my Movie configuration for playing multi-channel music. It is built in ARC with all speakers included.

I use the Music configuration for playing stereo music. It is built in ARC with all speakers included EXCEPT for the Center speaker. For my music Sources, I have the Mode Preset for 2.0 input set to Stereo mode. Thus I get output on LF/RF/Sub. However, if I want to incorporate the surround speakers for a given piece, I can use the Mode button and Up/Down Arrows to change that on the fly to, for example, PLIIx-Music. Since the Music configuration was built without Center, that results in audio on all the speakers EXCEPT Center (better stereo sound stage in the front).
--Bob

dmusoke;

Yes, I say No Speaker for Center for Music Configuration during ARC; my question is how you guys have it setup for 5.1 DVD-A, SACD, or a DVD of a Music Concert; with or without center channel?

Thanks.

^ You don't want to exclude Center while playing multi-channel music. The Center channel content designed in as part of the mix should be played in the Center speaker.
--Bob

Thank you Bob. You answered my question.

The analog level settings in the Anthem do no effect the analog input levels. Something else is over driving the Anthem analog input


The manual says the level indicators do not function for analog. So what do you have connected that is driving the inputs into distortion ?
Might I suggest you disconnect everything except one set of analog inputs, And then check

 

No its not Bob...

 

But what has been observed is that regardless of how much you reduce the input level gain, it has no effect on the observed clipping indicator.

 

Since we are supposed to trust the indicator implicitly, and its telling us we are clipping the analog inputs when using the Analog-DSP mode, we are at a loss to explain why that is the case, hence the apparent uproar over this issue. Obviously, no one wants to risk clipping their equipments analog stage only present a distorted signal to the processing DSPs which as we all know would produce distorted outputs to our amplifiers.

 

- David

Edited by dmusoke - 1/6/13 at 6:33pm