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1/14/13 at 12:25pm
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Is it possible to turn on my TV using the D2v? I'd like to have an event such that when i turn on my D2v, it triggers the TV to turn on. Is that possible and if so how?

Thanks,
David

The D2v does not support remote control of other devices via HDMI CEC. Nor does it accept control from other devices over HDMI.

Your best bet is to use a programmable remote (such as Logitech Harmony) which can be set to turn on/off multiple devices according to what you tell it you want to do at the moment.

Programming the Harmony stuff is not complicated. If you can figure out the Setup menu in the D2v you can figure out how to configure a Harmony.
--Bob

I bought the Harmony One over a year ago(eek.gif) on a whim and have been staring at it ever sincetongue.gif. It looks complicated to program? The dated D2v setup menu is a piece of cake to mesmile.gif...


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1/14/13 at 12:44pm
For a programmable remote, the Harmony is trivial to set up. Other units require something like actual programming.

There's a whole forum here dedicated to programmable remotes where you will find people willing to talk you down from the ledge.
--Bob
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post #39693 of 40782
1/14/13 at 12:50pm
Hello. Looking for some help on an issue I am having with my setup. Over the past several weeks, the TV image has begun to develop red pixels on the screen. Sometimes it would progress to a complete pink/red tint of the entire screen. I would gently move the HDMI I out connection at the D2V and that would fix the problem. I thought maybe I had a bad HDMI cable, so I replaced that without any improvement. The HDMI output connector looks OK, but the HDMI cable seems to fit a bit looser than in the HDMI 2 output. I switched the cable to the HDMI 2 output and the red/pink problem seemed to resolve. However, then the TV picture began to completely go dark for a few seconds, then come back on again. The audio would continue thru this screen blackout. Otherwise, the picture is perfect. I have not changed my D2V settings for quite a while, and it is currently set at 10 bit color as it would never work correctly at 12 bit. Changing to 8 bit had no effect on this problem I am having. I did update to V 2.10 severl months ago, but I don't think that is related to this issue. In addition, the issue is noted on multiple source inputs thru HDMI 1-5.
At first, I thought maybe the HDMI 1 output connector was going bad and might need replacement. But now, wondering if something else in the unit.
Any ideas or where I should start to look?
Thanks!
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post #39694 of 40782
1/14/13 at 1:17pm
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Hello. Looking for some help on an issue I am having with my setup. Over the past several weeks, the TV image has begun to develop red pixels on the screen. Sometimes it would progress to a complete pink/red tint of the entire screen. I would gently move the HDMI I out connection at the D2V and that would fix the problem. I thought maybe I had a bad HDMI cable, so I replaced that without any improvement. The HDMI output connector looks OK, but the HDMI cable seems to fit a bit looser than in the HDMI 2 output. I switched the cable to the HDMI 2 output and the red/pink problem seemed to resolve. However, then the TV picture began to completely go dark for a few seconds, then come back on again. The audio would continue thru this screen blackout. Otherwise, the picture is perfect. I have not changed my D2V settings for quite a while, and it is currently set at 10 bit color as it would never work correctly at 12 bit. Changing to 8 bit had no effect on this problem I am having. I did update to V 2.10 severl months ago, but I don't think that is related to this issue. In addition, the issue is noted on multiple source inputs thru HDMI 1-5.
At first, I thought maybe the HDMI 1 output connector was going bad and might need replacement. But now, wondering if something else in the unit.
Any ideas or where I should start to look?
Thanks!

Give Anthem Tech Support a call. It may be as simple as that the Main HDMI Output (HDMI 1 out) simply needs to be reseated in its connection to the Video Processor board.

If you are using a longer HDMI cable for output you may need to upgrade your cable, but what you describe sounds more like a problem with the HDMI daughter board.
--Bob
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post #39695 of 40782
1/14/13 at 2:13pm
Hello
After i have uploaded firmware 3.09f there seams to bee som problems with my Subs.
In quiet scenes where there is only dialog, and the MV is on -10db or so, i Can hear my subs generate low fz Sound . As soon as i pause the movie , it dissappere. Any comments on that?
At first it Sounds like a High noise floor. But when you get closer to the Subs , it's easy to hear the "noise" ....like a low pink noise
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post #39696 of 40782
1/14/13 at 2:29pm
Anyone have a link to the post about setting up dual subwoofers with ARC?

Thanks,
--Chuck
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post #39697 of 40782
1/14/13 at 5:57pm
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Anyone have a link to the post about setting up dual subwoofers with ARC?

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--Chuck

Check the MRX thread FAQ, first page second post.
John
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post #39698 of 40782
1/14/13 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The D2v does not support remote control of other devices via HDMI CEC. Nor does it accept control from other devices over HDMI.

Your best bet is to use a programmable remote (such as Logitech Harmony) which can be set to turn on/off multiple devices according to what you tell it you want to do at the moment.

Programming the Harmony stuff is not complicated. If you can figure out the Setup menu in the D2v you can figure out how to configure a Harmony.
--Bob
Although the D2v does not do HDMI CEC, It has power trigger (12v) that let you power on/off amps. And also use I a smartstrip that when the my D2 power on it enable the other power port on the strip. But some tv and cable box like to be powered on all the time so they can download the tv guide.

Otherwise like Bob said the Harmony is not complicated (not more than ARC) and there threads in the remote-control topic where you can get help if needed.
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post #39699 of 40782
1/14/13 at 9:11pm
I'm a big fan of the Roomie app for iOS, and I created a "RoomieCodes.plist" XML file for the serial codes if anyone is interested...

RoomieCodes.plist.xml 4k .xml file

I couldn't upload a ".plist" file, so I added ".xml" to the end. You'll have to remove the ".xml" from the end of the file before use and understand how to get the file into Roomie.

I would recommend modifying the attached file and giving your inputs "real" names and removing those that you are not using. That way, your input selections will make sense and there won't be any unnecessary clutter. I also sent this file to the folks at Roomie and recorded some diagnostics with it. I'm hoping they'll use the diagnostics to incorporate feedback as well so you'll be able to see the volume, input and mode settings directly in Roomie.
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post #39700 of 40782
1/14/13 at 11:13pm
Thanks Bob that's clearer
Neale
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post #39701 of 40782
1/15/13 at 12:38am
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Originally Posted by p.las View Post

Hello
After i have uploaded firmware 3.09f there seams to bee som problems with my Subs.
In quiet scenes where there is only dialog, and the MV is on -10db or so, i Can hear my subs generate low fz Sound . As soon as i pause the movie , it dissappere. Any comments on that?
At first it Sounds like a High noise floor. But when you get closer to the Subs , it's easy to hear the "noise" ....like a low pink noise

Have now uploaded the official 3.09 and the issue is gone. I now Will try to upload 3.09c

The Best Way to put it - it Sound like a truck i outside my house........High noisefloor
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post #39702 of 40782
1/15/13 at 2:00am
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Have now uploaded the official 3.09 and the issue is gone. I now Will try to upload 3.09c

The Best Way to put it - it Sound like a truck i outside my house........High noisefloor

Hmm I've installed 3.09f and didn't notice any noise from my 2 Submersives but I wasn't pressing my ear near them so will try something tonight and see if the problem your describing is there.

I did another ARC calibration last night as i always do after installing new firmware (just me) and I've tested some DTS-HD MA 7.1 discs and now the system seems to lack dynamics especially the bass. I tested Thor and Underworld-Awakening and both sounded weak. So putting back 3.09c.

Also no issues with low noise floor with subs using 3.09f.
Edited by SimonNo10 - 1/15/13 at 3:07am
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post #39703 of 40782
1/15/13 at 3:52am
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Hmm I've installed 3.09f and didn't notice any noise from my 2 Submersives but I wasn't pressing my ear near them so will try something tonight and see if the problem your describing is there.

I did another ARC calibration last night as i always do after installing new firmware (just me) and I've tested some DTS-HD MA 7.1 discs and now the system seems to lack dynamics especially the bass. I tested Thor and Underworld-Awakening and both sounded weak. So putting back 3.09c.

Also no issues with low noise floor with subs using 3.09f.

You don't have to put your ears against the Subs. I silent scenes i Sound like a aircon or something . It is not pronounced . Back again to 3.09 no problem
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post #39704 of 40782
1/15/13 at 4:16am
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You don't have to put your ears against the Subs. I silent scenes i Sound like a aircon or something . It is not pronounced . Back again to 3.09 no problem

Very strange. One thing that happened tonight with 3.09f was I couldn't bring up the main menu on the screen while I had a movie paused. I have gone back to 3.09c as that was very stable. With 3.09 does that still have the volume issue with DTS-HD MA or was that fixed? Can't remember which firmware addressed the front and centre speaker volume issue.
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post #39705 of 40782
1/15/13 at 6:36am
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Check the MRX thread FAQ, first page second post.
John

Thanks. That explains why I couldn't find it in this thread. smile.gif
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post #39706 of 40782
1/15/13 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by SimonNo10 View Post

Very strange. One thing that happened tonight with 3.09f was I couldn't bring up the main menu on the screen while I had a movie paused. I have gone back to 3.09c as that was very stable. With 3.09 does that still have the volume issue with DTS-HD MA or was that fixed? Can't remember which firmware addressed the front and centre speaker volume issue.

The issue is fixed in 3.09

But the MV when it is DTS hd MR is 3db hot in bitstream vs lpcm . But i dó not see this as a problem .
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post #39707 of 40782
1/15/13 at 8:32am
Hello,

I have always used RGB on my D2v, my sources and my projector because when I tried the preferable YCbCr i always had some problems, and I didn't bother to investigate.
But lately I have inserted a Darbee between my D2v and my projector therefore I had to set all my video devices to YCbCr.
But I do have 2 problems:

- If i set my Video output config on the D2v to YcbCr 4:2:2 the picture is invariably pink-magenta, eben on the setup menu
- So I set the Video output config to YCbCr 4:4:4, which works but at every source change, track change within a blue-ray (for example between trailers), I get a full screen pink magenta flicker.

I could live with that but I would appreciate if someone had a solution.
My D2v is using the 3.09f FW.

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post #39708 of 40782
1/15/13 at 2:19pm
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I'm a big fan of the Roomie app for iOS, and I created a "RoomieCodes.plist" XML file for the serial codes if anyone is interested...

RoomieCodes.plist.xml 4k .xml file

I couldn't upload a ".plist" file, so I added ".xml" to the end. You'll have to remove the ".xml" from the end of the file before use and understand how to get the file into Roomie.

I would recommend modifying the attached file and giving your inputs "real" names and removing those that you are not using. That way, your input selections will make sense and there won't be any unnecessary clutter. I also sent this file to the folks at Roomie and recorded some diagnostics with it. I'm hoping they'll use the diagnostics to incorporate feedback as well so you'll be able to see the volume, input and mode settings directly in Roomie.

I've been using Roomie now for 6 weeks with my 50v. Flawless! Responsiveness is immediate and not sluggish like my Harmony 900 RF remote could be. I've started programming the IR macros to take advantage of some direct access to soft inputs and the like. Anyone who is looking for a really great remote solution on iOS devices, look at the Roomie. It's been a stellar experience for me thus far.

Theo
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post #39709 of 40782
1/15/13 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by p.las View Post

The issue is fixed in 3.09

But the MV when it is DTS hd MR is 3db hot in bitstream vs lpcm . But i dó not see this as a problem .

Remember that 3.09c fixed this:

"Previous release where surround remapping was disabled for all speaker configurations did not meet all requirements"
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post #39710 of 40782
1/15/13 at 5:30pm
Can someone tell me how to post ARC result here. I used to post Word files with screen captures.

Thanks.
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post #39711 of 40782
1/15/13 at 5:34pm
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Can someone tell me how to post ARC result here. I used to post Word files with screen captures.

Thanks.

Alt Print screen
Paste into paint
Save as Jpeg
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post #39712 of 40782
1/15/13 at 6:33pm
Thought I would post my latest ARC results here:

Results1.jpg 634k .jpg file

Results2.jpg 633k .jpg file

Targets.jpg 111k .jpg file

I changed the fronts from 85 to 90 and the rears from 90 to 95 (attempt to improve the calculated curve for Front Left and Rear Right speakers) and added 2.0 room gain as I don't get any due to treated room.
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post #39713 of 40782
1/15/13 at 6:37pm
Thanks.
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post #39714 of 40782
1/15/13 at 6:47pm
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Thought I would post my latest ARC results here:

Results1.jpg 634k .jpg file

Results2.jpg 633k .jpg file

Targets.jpg 111k .jpg file

I changed the fronts from 85 to 90 and the rears from 90 to 95 (attempt to improve the calculated curve for Front Left and Rear Right speakers) and added 2.0 room gain as I don't get any due to treated room.

This made me wonder. When someone raises the crossover for the set of speakers shouldn't the sub be raised also and how would this be done in ARC as it uses cutoffs which isn't the crossover for a sub?
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post #39715 of 40782
1/15/13 at 6:59pm
^ ARC automatically adjusts the Crossover for the Sub as part of building the solution. Letting the user set both would over-constrain the problem.

Of course it is still possible for the user to manually select Targets that can't result in a good solution -- e.g., making the Crossover for the mains higher than the Sub is actually able to go when handed that steered bass -- but ARC will do what it can.
--Bob
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1/15/13 at 7:14pm
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It is hard to describe sound; but I will try. I lack clarity and the feel of a large sound stage, or someone once said as if you have thrown a towel on the speakers. Lack of enough bass is another big thing. Lot of my friends and family have heard the system, and no one ever said that it sounds good, not that I care, but just to tell you that its not just me. It sounds little open when I use Analog Audio outs form Oppo and go AnlgDIR at D2v, but bass does gets boomy when I do that, and I forego all the benefit of ARC.

And about the sound form the dealer equipment; as you would know it is a very different system in an acoustically treated room, so it did sound good, but very hard to compare and hard to say why, and what I mean by that is that it may be because of other things not because of the higher grade cables, or is it because of higher grade cables. That is the question I guess.

Thanks for your help.
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Glad you came back here before you "Bit the Bullet " for those $$$ cables and McIntosh gear.
I heard it at RMAF last month and was not impressed
You do have good equipment that should give you excellent audio.
Did the dealers system sound $$$ than yours ?
Exactly what is it that bothers you about the sound of your system ? Describe what kind of sound are you chasing ?
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I need some advice, and I am sure it has been discussed here before.

I have my gripes about sound quality of my system, and everyone says that I have good components, and they are: Anthem: D2v and P5, Paradigm: S8's, S2's, C3 and Sub25, Oppo 95, and a Sony ES5400.

Anyway, I was at a AV system dealer in town to see if changing my D2v with a McIntosh MX151 may solve my situation. This dealer has McIntosh, and Meridian level of equipment.

After I told him what was going-on and what my problem was, he said that my weak link here was my cheap cables, and he strongly suggested replacing all my cables including power cables with Audio Quest cables. I am a big skeptic when it comes to expensive looking cables, and I do not believe that very expensive cables can necessarily improve sound quality.

I have gone through three cheaper cables myself; I started with monoprice, then someone said Mogami, and right now I am using all Blue Jeans interconnects, and power cords are what came with the equipment. I use 8 gage bi-wire for speakers and XLR, RCA's, and HDMI's for interconnects.http://www.avsforum.com/t/678260/anthem-d2-d2v-avm50-avm50v-arc1-tweaking-guide/39300#

I am sure there are lot of people here who have gone through this, so before I shell-out couple of thousand of dollars, I just want to ask the experts here; what their recommendation is, and what their experience is with the effect of cables is in a system like mine.

Thanks.
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It is hard to describe sound; but I will try. I lack clarity and the feel of a large sound stage, or someone once said as if you have thrown a towel on the speakers. Lack of enough bass is another big thing. Lot of my friends and family have heard the system, and no one ever said that it sounds good, not that I care, but just to tell you that its not just me. It sounds little open when I use Analog Audio outs form Oppo and go AnlgDIR at D2v, but bass does gets boomy when I do that, and I forego all the benefit of ARC.

And about the sound form the dealer equipment; as you would know it is a very different system in an acoustically treated room, so it did sound good, but very hard to compare and hard to say why, and what I mean by that is that it may be because of other things not because of the higher grade cables, or is it because of higher grade cables. That is the question I guess.

Thanks for your help.

"thestewman", "boyce89967", "bob", "dmusoke", and others:

Here are my latest ARC results. I think my problem is in low frequency area, if you see my charts, the sub really drops off at about 50Hz. Moving the sub and/or room treatment are not the options.

"dmusoke": I think I have found one SVS AS-EQ1, but have not finalized with the seller, I might get it. Would that really help?

I appreciate all the input and advice. I am just too frustrated. With all this equipment such lousy sound. I need help.
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1/15/13 at 7:30pm
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"thestewman", "boyce89967", "bob", "dmusoke", and others:

Here are my latest ARC results. I think my problem is in low frequency area, if you see my charts, the sub really drops off at about 50Hz. Moving the sub and/or room treatment are not the options.

"dmusoke": I think I have found one SVS AS-EQ1, but have not finalized with the seller, I might get it. Would that really help?

I appreciate all the input and advice. I am just too frustrated. With all this equipment such lousy sound. I need help.

Please post your Targets
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post #39718 of 40782
1/15/13 at 8:07pm
What I find strange is looking at Paradigm25's graphs especially the one's for the Front Left and Front Right, look how well ARC brings that curve right in line with the Target curve, but with my Front Left and Surround Right it doesn't and my measured curve doesn't look as bad. I've tried to improve the Surround Right's position by angling it in more and moving it closer to the main listening position by a few feet but I continue to get the same dip which ARC can't fully fix/adjust close to the Target curve.

Sorry to detract from your graphs Paradigm25 and hope you sort out your issues soon. Great people on here to assist as they have me since purchasing the D2v.
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1/15/13 at 8:07pm
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"thestewman", "boyce89967", "bob", "dmusoke", and others:

Here are my latest ARC results. I think my problem is in low frequency area, if you see my charts, the sub really drops off at about 50Hz. Moving the sub and/or room treatment are not the options.

"dmusoke": I think I have found one SVS AS-EQ1, but have not finalized with the seller, I might get it. Would that really help?

I appreciate all the input and advice. I am just too frustrated. With all this equipment such lousy sound. I need help.

Your response charts look pretty good, though there is significant rolloff above 10khz (which should not be the case with the Sig's). Also, based on your charts, your low frequencies look to be benefiting from room gain and strong modes at around 50hz. This combination can lead to a muddy, less detailed sound, but that's not really what your complaint is. You should be HEARING the opposite of what you are hearing (will know more when you post your "targets" window).

Are you certain your measurements are done correctly? Mic pointing straight up, at the listening positions? How many positions are you measuring? Are you measuring from locations that AREN"T actual listening positions?

Hope we can help... would be a shame not to get the sound that is capable from your system.
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post #39720 of 40782
1/15/13 at 8:24pm
Those charts actually look pretty good to me. I would bet the rolloff above 10K is the mic since is so similar across the speakers, ARC shouldn't be touching that anyway. Some serious room gain on the mains but it looks like ARC handles it well. Lets see those targets.
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