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post #40261 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Shayne2 View Post

You must understand that when your nick is nick@anthem you represent the company on a professional level whether you do it on your own time or not.

I do but that doesn't mean I can automatically provide the support you're looking for so as requested please stay with the normal channels. Somewhere something must've fallen through the cracks so please contact your rep again. I've done everything I can here and nowhere did I ask for proof, just for a problem description to be forwarded, hopefully with an avoidance of jumping to conclusions. You're saying graphs and levels are low, someone else is saying only graphs not levels, and yet someone else mentioned he's having no problem. This means there's no good reason for anyone to assume that anyone else including us should instantly be able to reproduce your description.
post #40262 of 42681
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

Think 4K is going to go away. ?

My point was that as far as the prepro is concerned it's about 4K sources becoming mainstream and it's not happening overnight. 4K displays are fine with being fed 1080p when the source isn't 4K. That's also why a D3 still doesn't exist except on paper. Anyone into early adoption has to be prepared for anything that the transition may involve, and in your case for now that means finding an HDMI splitter that can handle 4K allowing video to go straight to the display and audio to the prepro. I don't know how much that may cost but I doubt it would approach the cost of a new prepro.
post #40263 of 42681
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

What circuitry (in general terms) does a signal go through when the D2v is in Analog-Direct mode? Any active parts in the path(buffers, filters etc) in addition to the volume control?

The reason i ask, is that i connected by Oppo BDP-105 stereo outs (XLR) directly to my power amplifier(Sunfire 7x400W) and the sound was just simply glorious. It was 'there', a presence i'd never known. But when sent through the D2v (XLR ins and outs), comparativel, it sounds 'muted' and somewhat veiled.

Knowing what's inside in basic block-diagram form isn't going to tell you much but since you asked it's an all-analog active path with the usual devices - opamps and volume controls (carefully selected, laid out, and working in synergy of course). Without buffers - that's opamps running at zero gain - the frequency response would vary according to volume setting and/or cable length and/or amp input impedance, which is why you hardly see passive preamps anywhere, in fact I get the impression that the only places they exist is among people too concerned with block diagrams and not enough about what comes out the output jack, open-mindedly.

As for what you're hearing I can only say that when the signal path is known to be audibly transparent and that first-time participants in properly set up blind tests often leave very surprised, maybe try a few more listening sessions. For an idea of how easily the eye beats the ear, given normal vision and hearing, the two videos below may be of interest. It's also why bad center channel speakers get away with it so easily.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ for about three minutes starting at 5:26

(posted at risk of sparking yet another blind vs non debate... if you must, I'm sure many people would appreciate it in a new thread)

Thanks everyone but sorry, keeping up with posts can turn into a full time job before you know it so I have to go now.
post #40264 of 42681
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Originally Posted by rmalm View Post

To Mike Lindsey,

I have a setup that uses the same video sources. My only sources are Directv and Oppo 93, using HDMI to a M50v-3d inputs, and I use M50v HDMI-1 output to Runco DHD4 and HDMI up to the V11d projector. I just added an HDMI2 output to RF extender to a Sony monitor. Source switching to Oppo always has a little noisy on sync (video and audio glitches), and sometimes fails to sync but a power cycle would clear. This lack of sync was either no video or video colors are screwed but at least a power cycle would finally clear and sync correctly.

My rack cables are 1meter (Ultraviolet $100 wireworld) in length and then a 9meter wireworld (HDMI starlight $500), "http://www.wireworldcable.com/categories/hdmi_series6.html" Anthem software upgrades did not solve the problem.
I did try using Runco DHD4 to do the HDMI switching and ran runco HDMI out to M50v for audio which worked better at switching than the M50v. This hookup never failed to sync. But I wanted the video overlay so I cabled my rack back to M50v for switching and the problems showed up again. Then I upgraded to the latest HDMI 1.4 - 3d board hoping this would help but it did not. The intermittent fail with Oppo got worse. The source switching from Sat to Oppo that would sometimes cause a sync fail whre a power cycle of the M50v now would not clear that fail. A switch back to the Sat (DVR) would also fail until I would power off the Oppo and then I could get Sat to sync some of the time.

A switch to Sat/DVR always synced faster and cleaner than a switch to Oppo (whose data volume was set higher). Directv is 1080i and Oppo is set to Source Direct. M50v out configs are at 1080p. Anthem suggested using M50v setting for the sources a Studio RGB vs YCBCR 4.2.2, and only using 8bit for color space (YCbCr 4.2.2.) with Deep Color OFF, setting in Oppo. Fails would get worse where more data is transmitted from Oppo.

The current workaround from Anthem was to switch to the source settings to use THROUGH. This was a little more stable but of course one does not get the nice video screen overlay for status, mode, menu etc. So I switched back and do not use THROUGH, to trying to get M50v to switch and get the video processing. I also did yet another software upgrade to version 3.09 which showed no improvement in sync but it did solve an intermittent case where volume would be too low on power up.

The wireworld cables are very stiff and this could results in a torque on them that could result in less than optimum contact resistance. I decided to try contact cleaner after about 2 years of the above problems. About 1 week ago I used DeoxIT and DeoxIT Gold and focused on all connections in the rack but did not get up in the huxhbox and do the 1 Runco connection. No complete fails in the last week. Switching still has some noise bursts (video and audio) that I have learned to live with. Switching times are about 6-7 seconds which is down from slower times at day 1 when I got the M50v and was using max data volumes.

So set your devices to output the least amount of data volume that your willing to live with especially Oppo output setting. Second, make sure the cables are very good, short, and are making good connection. Third, I also added a small fan to blow across the top of the M50v since the area seemed pretty warm one time when it locked up and would not sync even with a power cycle. I only have 1" of space above the M50v for air flow.

I am the queue for another software upgrade that I hope helps HDMI sync. Maybe someday a Anthem RS232 based HDMI trace function to help debug what and when there is an Anthem HDMI problem.

Rmalm,

I appreciate the reply. I think the main difference is I get no sound or video thru the HDMI inputs of the D2. When this issue first started happening it would require multiple power ups and down of the D2 before I would get sound and picture. After a while I couldn't get it to work at all using the HDMI inputs. I have searched this thread to find anything remotely similar to my issue and came up empty there as well.

Mike
post #40265 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post

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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

What circuitry (in general terms) does a signal go through when the D2v is in Analog-Direct mode? Any active parts in the path(buffers, filters etc) in addition to the volume control?

The reason i ask, is that i connected by Oppo BDP-105 stereo outs (XLR) directly to my power amplifier(Sunfire 7x400W) and the sound was just simply glorious. It was 'there', a presence i'd never known. But when sent through the D2v (XLR ins and outs), comparativel, it sounds 'muted' and somewhat veiled.

Thanks everyone but sorry, keeping up with posts can turn into a full time job before you know it so I have to go now.

 

Nick:

 

Thank you very much for your participation in this thread. I always enjoy your calm take on things, even in the midst of some wild accusations about you and your company. Hopefully, you come back soon and regail us with some of your sage wisdom againsmile.gif!

 

- David

 

 

PS ... nice links that let us know that what you see isn't necessarily what you hear.


Edited by dmusoke - 3/16/13 at 12:49pm
post #40266 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Mike Lindsey View Post

Rmalm,

I appreciate the reply. I think the main difference is I get no sound or video thru the HDMI inputs of the D2. When this issue first started happening it would require multiple power ups and down of the D2 before I would get sound and picture. After a while I couldn't get it to work at all using the HDMI inputs. I have searched this thread to find anything remotely similar to my issue and came up empty there as well.

Mike

Mike,

Will I did have almost the same results at one time when I 1st got the M50v. NO source or video with a switch to Oppo, no sync. I only got this solved when I started changing the device setting and Runco settings to transmit a smaller amount of data (1080i was better vs p, and 4:2:2 was better vs 4:4:4 or like you said did several power cycles to get sync. When I started (max data) sync would happen 30% of the time
with a max time of about 20sec before I gave up vs your 0% sync.

Now I sync 99% of the time in 7 sec, with some noisy bursts which I hate when guests are viewing but I have learned to deal with it. I have had 3 lockups that would not clear with power cycle during the last 6 months.

I use Studio RGB instead of YCBCr 4.2.2 Anthen says its easier to sync Studio RBG
For Oppo in Source Direct and config out 1920x1080p24 of M50v and Runco color space 8 bit
For Directv 1080i and M50v out 1920x1080i60 and Runco color space 8 bit
post #40267 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post


Thanks everyone but sorry, keeping up with posts can turn into a full time job before you know it so I have to go now.

Thanks for all your info.
post #40268 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post

I do but that doesn't mean I can automatically provide the support you're looking for so as requested please stay with the normal channels. Somewhere something must've fallen through the cracks so please contact your rep again. I've done everything I can here and nowhere did I ask for proof, just for a problem description to be forwarded, hopefully with an avoidance of jumping to conclusions. You're saying graphs and levels are low, someone else is saying only graphs not levels, and yet someone else mentioned he's having no problem. This means there's no good reason for anyone to assume that anyone else including us should instantly be able to reproduce your description.

Us trying to prove to anthem something is a exercise in futility and they need to try this for themselves. Jumping to conclusion really does not enter into the picture with the charts I have provided you. I will stay in contact with my rep since he is a gr8 guy and we have other things to discuss. It has been flagged and the only way it can be proven or not is for anthem to conduct their own tests. Someone that says they have no problems does not change that fact or prove anything, it is just background noise. Someone that does not have a meter, does not know what they should be getting from past runs, have not compared their 7 and 8 results, should not enter into this equation. You would definitely need further input for the ones that have no problems to assume anything or let it enter this conversation. I respectfully need anthem to test and show me charts of the same volume levels on the 2 OS. This is because my windows 8 charts do not represent the true level of the test tone received by the mic. That is my case, and obviously than something is not right with my solution and it can not possibly be as it should be. I state this only under the assumption that the true test tone volume comes into play with the overall solution and it is not just some floating random volume levels that are up loaded (or a consistent incorrect value). I would think it must be based on what the SPL meter says and what windows 7 provides which is not what I produce when run in windows 8. If that is the case you now have 2 people that have told you their results are low.

I understand that pushy people such as us can be trying at times and that most of the time we only visit forums because of problems. I truly respect anthem for having this avenue available also to vent and do appreciate what you do for this community. I would like to take this conversation off table and all I ever requested was an acknowledgement of receipt with the normal political response.

Best Regards
post #40269 of 42681
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Nick:

Thank you very much for your participation in this thread. I always enjoy your calm take on things, even in the midst of some wild accusations about you and your company. Hopefully, you come back soon and regail us with some of your sage wisdom again:) !

- David


PS ... nice links that let us know that what you see isn't necessarily what you hear.

Would this be pointed at me and if so can you please explain what you mean by "wild accusations" and how you would like me to express myself. If not just take this as a useless post and me increasing my post count.

Regards
post #40270 of 42681
The subject of 4k (UltraHD) resolution has been raised in the context of "will Anthem support this", and some comments have implied that there's likely to be few Displays available and the market could go the same way as 3D... so the information below is just, well, information:

DIGITIMES Displays daily news
Monday 18 March 2013
News website: www.digitimes.com

Ultra LCD TV panel shipments expected to reach 2.6 million in 2013, says DisplaySearch
TFT LCD panel suppliers are forecast to ship 2.6 million Ultra HD (3840 by 2160) LCD TV panels worldwide in 2013, up more than 40-fold from 63,000 in 2012, according to research firm DisplaySearch.

Here is a link to the full story: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130318PR206.html?mod=2


Regards

Russ
post #40271 of 42681
I've been doing quite a bit of testing of the OPPO players with V3.09H on the D2v/3D, and so far I've got only one item to report.

I typically keep Muting set to MIN for the HDMI Inputs. I've seen some indications that Muting MED may be cleaner when using Bitstream input at points where the Bitstream input format changes. It's not clear whether this is due to a change in the Muting algorithm in V3.09h, or just something changing in the OPPO firmware I'm testing, so treat this as just a heads up. This is for HDMI Bitstream audio input.

I've found no gotchas in V3.09h, so it wouldn't surprise me if this gets promoted to "official" release status soon.
--Bob
post #40272 of 42681

so what does the HDMI MUting do Bob?

post #40273 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Texas steve View Post

so what does the HDMI MUting do Bob?

It's described in the Manual. It's just a brief delay before audio un-mutes whenever the format changes, to give the signal a chance to settle down. Choose MIN, MED, or MAX. Found in Setup > Source Setup for each Source. Default is MED.

The D2v won't un-mute after a format change until it is happy that the input stream is a valid digital audio stream. The Muting setting provides some user control of that.
--Bob
post #40274 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post


It's described in the Manual. It's just a brief delay before audio un-mutes whenever the format changes, to give the signal a chance to settle down. Choose MIN, MED, or MAX. Found in Setup > Source Setup for each Source. Default is MED.

The D2v won't un-mute after a format change until it is happy that the input stream is a valid digital audio stream. The Muting setting provides some user control of that.
--Bob

thanks, min has been a "min" all along guess that's default.  I switched to Med just for the hell of it since I do have "h" beta.

post #40275 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I've been doing quite a bit of testing of the OPPO players with V3.09H on the D2v/3D, and so far I've got only one item to report.

I typically keep Muting set to MIN for the HDMI Inputs. I've seen some indications that Muting MED may be cleaner when using Bitstream input at points where the Bitstream input format changes. It's not clear whether this is due to a change in the Muting algorithm in V3.09h, or just something changing in the OPPO firmware I'm testing, so treat this as just a heads up. This is for HDMI Bitstream audio input.

I've found no gotchas in V3.09h, so it wouldn't surprise me if this gets promoted to "official" release status soon.
--Bob
Bob, I'm keen to hear how you rate the OPPO players on the D2v/3D, as I have been looking at them as well ?
post #40276 of 42681
^ I'm part of the group OPPO has organized for Beta Testing their hardware and firmware. (NOTE: I can only talk about stuff OPPO has already released publicly at any point.) For example, I'm currently testing the new BDP-105 and the older BDP-93 players, and I think they both work very well indeed with the D2v. I don't have a 3D display, so I don't test 3D functionality.

I think the newest OPPO players -- the BDP-103 and BDP-105 are bargains given what they offer. Both still have some issues, but OPPO's track record with firmware fixes is excellent. And their Customer Service is stellar.

I'm a big fan of what ARC does on the D2v, and so even though I test Analog audio from the 105, I think the best match for use with the D2v is the 103 -- with HDMI for audio -- since Analog audio has to be re-digitized anyway, on input into the D2v, if you are going to apply ARC to it. The 105 adds a Headphone output, and several types of digital audio INPUT beyond the HDMI Inputs found on both players, and so some might want to pair the 105 with the D2v anyway, But the MAIN reason to pay the extra for the 105 is because you want to use its more exotic, Analog audio output stage. And again, if you already have a D2v, odds are you want to use ARC on it, so you might as well save the money and get the 103, for HDMI audio, instead. The video portion is the same in both players.
--Bob
post #40277 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I'm a big fan of what ARC does on the D2v, and so even though I test Analog audio from the 105, I think the best match for use with the D2v is the 103 -- with HDMI for audio -- since Analog audio has to be re-digitized anyway, on input into the D2v, if you are going to apply ARC to it. The 105 adds a Headphone output, and several types of digital audio INPUT beyond the HDMI Inputs found on both players, and so some might want to pair the 105 with the D2v anyway, But the MAIN reason to pay the extra for the 105 is because you want to use its more exotic, Analog audio output stage. And again, if you already have a D2v, odds are you want to use ARC on it, so you might as well save the money and get the 103, for HDMI audio, instead. The video portion is the same in both players.
--Bob

Bit OT here maybe, but what you say makes a lot of sense - I've been trying to figure out how to swing the 105, but maybe the 103 will be fine for me, since there's no doubt I'll be using ARC.

One question though, do the OPPOs output SACD and DVD-A over HDMI? That's been the issue with my current universal player, I had to use the 5.1 analog out.

Thanks,

- Mark
post #40278 of 42681
^ Yes. As HDMI LPCM. Sounds great.
--Bob
post #40279 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Yes. As HDMI LPCM. Sounds great.
--Bob

Bob, on the 83 did I read where you suggested Bitstream vs LPCM

post #40280 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ I'm part of the group OPPO has organized for Beta Testing their hardware and firmware. (NOTE: I can only talk about stuff OPPO has already released publicly at any point.) For example, I'm currently testing the new BDP-105 and the older BDP-93 players, and I think they both work very well indeed with the D2v. I don't have a 3D display, so I don't test 3D functionality.

I think the newest OPPO players -- the BDP-103 and BDP-105 are bargains given what they offer. Both still have some issues, but OPPO's track record with firmware fixes is excellent. And their Customer Service is stellar.

I'm a big fan of what ARC does on the D2v, and so even though I test Analog audio from the 105, I think the best match for use with the D2v is the 103 -- with HDMI for audio -- since Analog audio has to be re-digitized anyway, on input into the D2v, if you are going to apply ARC to it. The 105 adds a Headphone output, and several types of digital audio INPUT beyond the HDMI Inputs found on both players, and so some might want to pair the 105 with the D2v anyway, But the MAIN reason to pay the extra for the 105 is because you want to use its more exotic, Analog audio output stage. And again, if you already have a D2v, odds are you want to use ARC on it, so you might as well save the money and get the 103, for HDMI audio, instead. The video portion is the same in both players.
--Bob
Bob,
Given your comment regarding 3D, can I take it you haven't tested 4K on the OPPO 103 and 105 as yet ?
I realise the D2v (and AVM50v) doesn't support this as yet (given Nick's comments).
post #40281 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Audiolic View Post

Bob,
Given your comment regarding 3D, can I take it you haven't tested 4K on the OPPO 103 and 105 as yet ?
I realise the D2v (and AVM50v) doesn't support this as yet (given Nick's comments).
Correct. Different Beta Testers test different things.
--Bob
post #40282 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Texas steve View Post

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Yes. As HDMI LPCM. Sounds great.

--Bob
Bob, on the 83 did I read where you suggested Bitstream vs LPCM

The question was with respect to SACD And DVD-A playback over HDMI into the Anthems. For those, the output will be LPCM. I recommended Bitstream for use with the 83 because there are some less common Bitstream formats where the Anthems do a better job, but the SACD and DVD-A output will be LPCM anyway.
--Bob
post #40283 of 42681

Could someone PM me the username and password for the anthem beta site. I used to know them but since i re-installed windows 7, they were erased.

 

EDIT: Got it!


Edited by dmusoke - 3/19/13 at 7:17pm
post #40284 of 42681
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

I asked this question of Anthem CS as I was concerned about audio signal degregation in the D2v. especially the analog inputs.
ARC does great processing for home theater but stereo analog sounds better.

Anthem states and they advertise that there is no loss of SQ in their volume control using Analog Direct

Question: Please describe how the D2v accomplishes the ANALOG input level matching in the Analog input level setup section.

Answer: The level is being reduced in the pre-amp stage within an op-amp.

Think 4K is going to go away. ?
Jeff Meiier of AccuCal was here to calibrate my 4K Sony television and stated he has never before seen a tv with such an outstanding picture.
He said he was very excited to see something better than anything he has seen before.

Anthem owners need to be able to pass thru the 4K video or at least have the Anthem units send the correct EDID information over HDMI so the HDMI audio is usable.

Did the concern about audio transparency arise from use of the Input Levels menu or D2 preamp in general? Analog Direct or DSP?

4K may not go away but most people don't even sit close enough to the TV to see 2K. Glad you had it calibrated. Most people would rather buy more pixels than get the right color pixels smile.gif
Edited by AVfile - 3/19/13 at 11:01pm
post #40285 of 42681
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Originally Posted by RussVC View Post

The subject of 4k (UltraHD) resolution has been raised in the context of "will Anthem support this", and some comments have implied that there's likely to be few Displays available and the market could go the same way as 3D... so the information below is just, well, information:

DIGITIMES Displays daily news
Monday 18 March 2013
News website: www.digitimes.com

Ultra LCD TV panel shipments expected to reach 2.6 million in 2013, says DisplaySearch
TFT LCD panel suppliers are forecast to ship 2.6 million Ultra HD (3840 by 2160) LCD TV panels worldwide in 2013, up more than 40-fold from 63,000 in 2012, according to research firm DisplaySearch.

Here is a link to the full story: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130318PR206.html?mod=2

I think the numbers are optimistic, but here is a chart every prospective 4K buyer should study before buying:

http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html

They might also want to consult an optometrist, as the chart assumes 20/20 vision, and their wives to see if they will be allowed to place an 80" TV six feet from the sofa!
post #40286 of 42681
^ The problem with analysis like that is that it only looks at one ASPECT of image quality -- perception of detail.

There are at least two other, very other important pieces to 4K. First extra resolution can be traded off against fineness of color steps. That is, by dithering the higher resolution image you can use a more limited, grainier, color palette to simulate a smoother color palette.

Second, higher resolution makes it easier to do different types of video processing without the resulting artifacts being so noticeable.

4K is coming. Believe it. Heck *8K* is coming. The major problem at this point is not cost, nor ability to perceive the difference. It is content delivery. Over the air, shiny disc and streaming are all insufficient at the moment. But that's just now. Just as with HDTV over the air (including cable) will come first, then pre-recorded media (to avoid long download times) -- that will require a new format, with streaming running a distant 3rd. On the way there, FAKE 4K will be the real problem -- i.e., stuff that has the crap compressed out of it, or has the frame rate cut down (or both), to meet the bare minimum quality within the resolution. I.e., can real 4K make it into customer's hands before fake 4K turns them off to it?
--Bob
post #40287 of 42681
Possibly 4 and 8 k are required as they move towards larger displays. This is so a pixel will not be a big blocky square on these larger displays. Is 4k required for a 42" lcd? It would be nice as a computer monitor (which you can drive at this res) but for video viewing I would say no. They will require interpolation between pixels on these huge displays because of the number of sources that will be of this high of resolution will be minimal. My HD tv signal is only 1080i as most are, that does not even do 1080p justice. If the tv signal went to 1080p we would all be happy, how soon it will go to 2160p maybe a while. Bandwidth size etc. as Bob suggest makes them compress even the 1080i to something that may not be what we should call HD. Large displays, in my opinion, is what the larger resolutions are for and if you buy one of these makes sure it has a good scaling chip. I would be more worried about the audio with this component and that should not be a problem for any as of yet.

Regards
post #40288 of 42681
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Did the concern about audio transparency arise from use of the Input Levels menu or D2 preamp in general? Analog Direct or DSP?

4K may not go away but most people don't even sit close enough to the TV to see 2K. Glad you had it calibrated. Most people would rather buy more pixels than get the right color pixels smile.gif

My concern was that a digital volume control loses bits as the volume is reduced which degrades the sound.
Only a really well designed analog volume control will not degrade the sound enough to cause problems.
I am still not sure the Anthem D2v has such an analog control.

You can not begin to imagine the difference in picture quality
We sit at the same distance as with our 2K set and the difference is unbelievable.
As Jeff points out in his review the 3D is the best he has seen
It is passive 3D and each eye gets to see a really bright 1080p display without any crosstalk, flickering or artifacts

Here is the Sony XBR 84X900 Review Jeff posted

W. Jeff Meier
AccuCal - Audio & Video Calibration and Consulting
www.accucalhd.com
www.homecinemaguru.com (blog)
573-480-9664
post #40289 of 42681
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ The problem with analysis like that is that it only looks at one ASPECT of image quality -- perception of detail.

There are at least two other, very other important pieces to 4K.

Indeed, and on the topic of data rates and storage:

http://nofilmschool.com/2012/05/nhk-finally-shrunk-8k-camera-data-rates/

In 2008 I saw an uncompressed 4K Hollywood production at a private showing and the source was a rack of noisy hard drives, like in a server room. Fantastic image but not a package most people would let into their home.

Some history for anyone interested - this experimental 1964 version of HD was "raw" at 800i or more on 2-inch video tape and "compressed" for the rest of the world by filming a TV monitor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronovision

The producer had big ideas 30 years ahead of his time, and lost everything. The TAMI show was officially released on DVD a couple of years ago (early rock'n'roll fans, you don't want to miss it) but one can still only imagine what the picture straight off the master looked like.
post #40290 of 42681
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

I am still not sure the Anthem D2v has such an analog control.

Volume control is analog. Same with input level control.

A digital control is the equivalent of a scaler.
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