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Originally Posted by turk 182 View Post

Thank you man! That`s just what I was looking for. I know I need to read the manual more, I am not the techiest of guys and the manual talks over my head some. According to Bob`s attachment the actual disc is pretty important for serial number syncing. I have had problems with PBK (not recognizing sub and mic) I have gotten a new computer and instead of loading the PBK disc I just downloaded newer version of PBK from Paradigm and wondered why it didn`t work. Thanks to Bob and yourself it sounds like I need to use disc first then download newer version of PBK. Thanks a lot to both of you.

You can install the newer program and then just copy over the cal files to make it run correctly. You do not need to install your original disk but you do need your calibration files that came on it (back these files up).

Regards
post #40382 of 42694
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Originally Posted by Shayne2 View Post

You can install the newer program and then just copy over the cal files to make it run correctly. You do not need to install your original disk but you do need your calibration files that came on it (back these files up).

Regards
Thank you I have a Mac now and I don`t really want to go bootcamp route. It is a real pain to try and find someones laptop to do all this PBK and ARC, however I did it all yesterday with a pals old laptop and paradigm sight was down along with anthem. So I had to use 3.02 ARC software and 2010 PBK software. Everything sounds really good, I would have liked to use the newer software though.
post #40383 of 42694

Does any know if the D2v HDMI inputs are still active if they are NOT selected? If i select input HDMI1, are HDMI inputs 2 through 8 still active or powered down/de-selected?


Edited by dmusoke - 3/31/13 at 9:03pm
post #40384 of 42694
Easy way for phantom center mode?

Guys, I was listening to Les Miserables on Bluray and I wanted to switch into phantom center mode. Two questions:

1) I'm assuming that the simplest way is setting the center to "none" in the Bass Management menu and that this can be done post ARC? My goal is to listen to the musical in phantom center mode.

2) If I wanted to do an "A" "B" between the two, is there an easy mechanism to switch between phantom center on or off?

Thanks
Theo
post #40385 of 42694
^^^ have you tried the al-music setting? I believe it runs everything but the center.
post #40386 of 42694
Hello everybody! An owner of Anthem D2v and P5 since more than a year ago, unfortunately due to different reasons just got my stuff unpacked and hooked up! The shear of the looks of the gear screams quality smile.gif

Now I would appreciate if someone could help me out with a little problem here...
I own a Pioneer Kuro KRP-600M monitor. Subsequently the monitor has no tv-tuner at all. And we all know that Anthem D2v does not have a tv-tuner either.
I get cable-tv from a simple RF-socket coming out off the living room wall. These are all analog signals I get for free. For the moment I do not want to pay for any extras or a digital box or anything.

I was thinking how to connect the analog tv signal to my Pioneer tv set via my D2v.
I do own a good old VCR player which does have an analog tv-tuner (receiver). I was thinking of hooking up my RF antenna cable with the analog signal to my VCR which has a Scart connection at its back, I got myself a Scart -> composite adapter, routed the composite cable to the D2v composite VCR input connection with the separate sound cables to the corresponding analog audio inputs of the D2v. I then connected the audio out from D2v to my P5.

So far I should be good, right?
Now comes the tricky part... I'm kinda 'novice stupid' when it comes to signal conversions I'm afraid... my question is, can I now get the video signal fed to my D2v via a video composte cable out from D2v via an HDMI cable to my tv-monitor? Or is that impossible since the composite video-in from my VCR feeds D2v with an analog signal so therefore I'd need to get the signal out from D2v via another composite cable to my monitor?
Does D2v also have ADCs or only DACs? I'm not sure what happens to an analog video signal which is being fed into D2v pre-amp... setting up the gear via HDMI simply does not give me any signal at all on my Pioneer monitor.
That's why I'm suspecting that an anaolg signal needs to be taken from D2v by a composite analog connection...

Another way of solving the problem might be to get an active Scart -> HDMI convertor, but such a converter costs a lot more than a simple composite video cable and also I won't be gaining any signal improvements anyway since the analog RF signal that is being fed from the wall antenna socket is already the worse signal source possible!

So would some kind soul please explain to a home-theatre novice what signal conversions actually happen in a D2v?!
I would highly appreciate any kinda help and advice smile.gif

Sincerely,
/Bittornado
Edited by Bittornado - 4/2/13 at 3:34am
post #40387 of 42694
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57576681-221/how-to-save-the-av-receiver/?tag=nl.e404&s_cid=e404&ttag=e404

This would be funny... if there weren't so many truths within.
I guess this is the way a non-audiophile views our pass-time/hobby/obsession.


Regards

Russ
post #40388 of 42694
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Originally Posted by shah993 View Post

I am in the same boat.I had emailed roomie support but have not seen any changes anyway I have already posted this in the roomie thread so no point repeating it here.

You need to email roomie directly or post on the forum on their web site to get a response. You will get a response via email and not via the forum on their site. Their response time is somewhat sporadic, but it's been good overall in my experience.

I'm using IR but was thinking of using the new iTach flex to connect to the Anthem for serial connectivity. The new flex auto-senses baud rate and everything else so it should work without issue.
post #40389 of 42694
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Originally Posted by Bittornado View Post

Hello ... my question is, can I now get the video signal fed to my D2v via a video composte cable out from D2v via an HDMI cable to my tv-monitor? Or is that impossible since the composite video-in from my VCR feeds D2v with an analog signal so therefore I'd need to get the signal out from D2v via another composite cable to my monitor?
Does D2v also have ADCs or only DACs?

Hi Bittornado!

Is has ADCs which are used for Analog DSP mode. Analog Direct bypasses the ADCs and a lot of features of the processor.

To process or upconvert the video input it needs to be at least S-video. Composite is switched only, not processed.

Stefan
post #40390 of 42694
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Originally Posted by RussVC View Post

This would be funny... if there weren't so many truths within.

Yep. I suppose I should replace this mess with one cute little box:



wink.gif
post #40391 of 42694
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Originally Posted by Bittornado View Post

Hello everybody! An owner of Anthem D2v and P5 since more than a year ago, unfortunately due to different reasons just got my stuff unpacked and hooked up! The shear of the looks of the gear screams quality smile.gif

Now I would appreciate if someone could help me out with a little problem here...
I own a Pioneer Kuro KRP-600M monitor. Subsequently the monitor has no tv-tuner at all. And we all know that Anthem D2v does not have a tv-tuner either.
I get cable-tv from a simple RF-socket coming out off the living room wall. These are all analog signals I get for free. For the moment I do not want to pay for any extras or a digital box or anything.

I was thinking how to connect the analog tv signal to my Pioneer tv set via my D2v.
I do own a good old VCR player which does have an analog tv-tuner (receiver). I was thinking of hooking up my RF antenna cable with the analog signal to my VCR which has a Scart connection at its back, I got myself a Scart -> composite adapter, routed the composite cable to the D2v composite VCR input connection with the separate sound cables to the corresponding analog audio inputs of the D2v. I then connected the audio out from D2v to my P5.

So far I should be good, right?
Now comes the tricky part... I'm kinda 'novice stupid' when it comes to signal conversions I'm afraid... my question is, can I now get the video signal fed to my D2v via a video composte cable out from D2v via an HDMI cable to my tv-monitor? Or is that impossible since the composite video-in from my VCR feeds D2v with an analog signal so therefore I'd need to get the signal out from D2v via another composite cable to my monitor?
Does D2v also have ADCs or only DACs? I'm not sure what happens to an analog video signal which is being fed into D2v pre-amp... setting up the gear via HDMI simply does not give me any signal at all on my Pioneer monitor.
That's why I'm suspecting that an anaolg signal needs to be taken from D2v by a composite analog connection...

Another way of solving the problem might be to get an active Scart -> HDMI convertor, but such a converter costs a lot more than a simple composite video cable and also I won't be gaining any signal improvements anyway since the analog RF signal that is being fed from the wall antenna socket is already the worse signal source possible!

So would some kind soul please explain to a home-theatre novice what signal conversions actually happen in a D2v?!
I would highly appreciate any kinda help and advice smile.gif

Sincerely,
/Bittornado

If you're looking for a TV tuner solution that has an emphasis on video quality, then go with a Tivo--specifically the TiVo Premiere (the others in the series won't support what you are looking to do). You can then feed it to your D2v for additional processing, etc. This product will work with both over the air and cable. You don't need to pay for service past year 1. That's not explicit, but if you call TiVo, they will explain how all that works. So basically, the TiVo will act as the tuner to get the signal and decode it to HDMI and you can then go from there with your D2v. There are other products that will do it, but the TiVo is the overall best, but also more expensive, product.
post #40392 of 42694
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Originally Posted by RussVC View Post

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57576681-221/how-to-save-the-av-receiver/?tag=nl.e404&s_cid=e404&ttag=e404

This would be funny... if there weren't so many truths within.
I guess this is the way a non-audiophile views our pass-time/hobby/obsession.

Maybe that's why I thought it was a pretty terrible article eek.gif
  1. Make them smaller - Good amps take volume/mass, though my parallel question is why are good "digital" amps (Anthem M1) priced astronomically, why is there nothing between the M1 and $25 Lepai LP2020a?
  2. Make them prettier - Am I the only one who doesn't like the tiny, odd-shaped CE devices? I like my #U shaped equipment, even if it is sometimes funny how much of that is empty space.
  3. Get rid of most features - OK, I'll give him this one, I'm one of those who just wants a good audio processor with room correction, you don't need streaming or whatever else.
  4. Embrace wireless - USB/IP would be nice wink.gif
  5. Include a true high-definition interface - Who cares? It's a setup menu, I never see the menu on my 50V, or my BD player unless I need to change something.
  6. Make a usable remote - There's a point here, but there's also the reality that good remotes are expensive and most people do (or should) replace all their remotes with a URC/RTI/Harmony.
  7. Include speaker cables in the box - OK, this is just a stupid idea, sorry but it is. Are they really going to send 50' 14AWG wires for each speaker for those of us with HT systems?
  8. Embrace stereo - I think the author is missing the point, soundbars are popular, not because people want stereo or low complexity, but they don't want two "giant" speakers and wires "cluttering" up their room. It's a form over function thing.

There's a few other gems in there:
"They also tend to have few inputs, but, as sound bars have proven, you really only need a single digital input if you use your TV to switch between devices. "
Um not really, most TVs don't route audio worth a darn, they only route stereo unless you're using the TV's tuner, and most TVs don't decode DTS so you're stuffed trying to route DTS sources through your TV.

I guess I just get the impression that the writer is somewhere between an enthusiast and a soundbar user, he seems "disturbed" that people are using soundbars when they don't want whole HT setups, yet too lazy to setup an AVR himself (or something). I say if a soundbar works for you go for it. Nothing wrong with using a soundbar, it gets you better sound without cluttering up your room. Most people these days don't want large speakers in their living room.
Edited by stanger89 - 4/2/13 at 1:39pm
post #40393 of 42694
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Originally Posted by Bittornado View Post

Hello everybody! An owner of Anthem D2v and P5 since more than a year ago, unfortunately due to different reasons just got my stuff unpacked and hooked up! The shear of the looks of the gear screams quality smile.gif

Now I would appreciate if someone could help me out with a little problem here...
I own a Pioneer Kuro KRP-600M monitor. Subsequently the monitor has no tv-tuner at all. And we all know that Anthem D2v does not have a tv-tuner either.
I get cable-tv from a simple RF-socket coming out off the living room wall. These are all analog signals I get for free. For the moment I do not want to pay for any extras or a digital box or anything.

The cable connection to the D2v you are talking about here needs a Quam TV tuner in order to receive and then be able to tune or change the channels.
Most cable companies have gone 100% digital in the last year or so so there may still be some analog signals and some digital or no analog signals at all available.
You still need an external tv tuner. Either buy a Quam external tuner or contact the cable company for an external digital adapter.
Most cable companies give out free digital tuner boxes to their customers for additional tvs they may have.
These are not the regular pay tv box they rent with a monthly charge.


I was thinking how to connect the analog tv signal to my Pioneer tv set via my D2v.
I do own a good old VCR player which does have an analog tv-tuner (receiver). I was thinking of hooking up my RF antenna cable with the analog signal to my VCR which has a Scart connection at its back, I got myself a Scart -> composite adapter, routed the composite cable to the D2v composite VCR input connection with the separate sound cables to the corresponding analog audio inputs of the D2v. I then connected the audio out from D2v to my P5.

Rather than invest in obsolete Scart technology get a Quam tuner or a digital adapter from the cable company.


So far I should be good, right?
Now comes the tricky part... I'm kinda 'novice stupid' when it comes to signal conversions I'm afraid... my question is, can I now get the video signal fed to my D2v via a video composte cable out from D2v via an HDMI cable to my tv-monitor? Or is that impossible since the composite video-in from my VCR feeds D2v with an analog signal so therefore I'd need to get the signal out from D2v via another composite cable to my monitor?
Does D2v also have ADCs or only DACs? I'm not sure what happens to an analog video signal which is being fed into D2v pre-amp... setting up the gear via HDMI simply does not give me any signal at all on my Pioneer monitor.
That's why I'm suspecting that an anaolg signal needs to be taken from D2v by a composite analog connection...

Another way of solving the problem might be to get an active Scart -> HDMI convertor, but such a converter costs a lot more than a simple composite video cable and also I won't be gaining any signal improvements anyway since the analog RF signal that is being fed from the wall antenna socket is already the worse signal source possible!

Do not get confused with the differences between Audio and Video. The ADC /DAC features in the D2v are for the audio signals only.
Rather than invest in obsolete Scart technology get a Quam tuner or a digital adapter from the cable company.


So would some kind soul please explain to a home-theatre novice what signal conversions actually happen in a D2v?!
I would highly appreciate any kinda help and advice smile.gif

Sincerely,
/Bittornado
post #40394 of 42694
I recently bought a second hand 50v and the remote doesn't seem to work. It lights up, but none of the buttons do anything. I have also tried using a harmony one remote, but that doesn't work either. Am I missing something?
post #40395 of 42694
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Originally Posted by Thxtheater View Post

This is with regards to my headphones, not my speakers. My speakers are dead quiet. My headphones are what produce tons of hiss. I've tried two different pairs/models of Sennheiser headphones and the hiss is really terrible.

I have terrible hiss on the headphones input too - have so from day one when I purchased in summer of 2009, hardly ever use headphones so never bothered to send note to Tech Support. Was just using the headphones the other night and it's still there loud and "not" clear. Seems like from a pretty small sample here, many of us have the same hiss issue, and I too have notticed that the hiss does start and stop with when the "digital connection" is made suggesting that something pretty fundamental may be at play here.

I am going to log this with tech support, and ask that anyone else who also gets hiss through their headphones do the same, that way hopefully we can nudge Anthem to see if there is a software fix and not force us all to send our pre pros in for service (mine is out or warranty too).

My gear in in my sig below and I use HDMI for all source interconnects (and hiss in all digital source regardless, have not checked if there with analog sources as I don't have any set up at the moment) and use Balanced to 5 of 7 channels plus 3 subs, and RCA to rear 2 channels - in both cases to Anthem amps.

Dave
post #40396 of 42694
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Originally Posted by Supertaint View Post

I recently bought a second hand 50v and the remote doesn't seem to work. It lights up, but none of the buttons do anything. I have also tried using a harmony one remote, but that doesn't work either. Am I missing something?
Have you checked this in the manual ? maybe the front sensor is not turned on.


Setting the Anthem IR

post #40397 of 42694
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Originally Posted by Supertaint View Post

I recently bought a second hand 50v and the remote doesn't seem to work. It lights up, but none of the buttons do anything. I have also tried using a harmony one remote, but that doesn't work either. Am I missing something?

Since you have a used unit, start by doing a Reset Factory Defaults on the AVM 50v. (It may be that the previous owner used RS-232 control and thus had the IR remote control sensors turned off.) You can do that using the Front Panel Display and the Front Panel buttons to access the Setup menu and navigate to the appropriate section. Note that you can download the Manual from the Anthem web site to help find your way into and through the Setup menu to do this.

Then also Reset the remote control itself. See Section 5.6 of the Manual.

The Anthem is like 4 devices inside one chassis (Main, Zone 2, Zone 3, Record) and the remote can be used to control any of them independently, just like it can be used to control other gear you might have like a DVD player.

The buttons at the TOP of the Anthem remote tell it which device you want the remote to control at the moment. So press the Main button at the top to tell the remote you want it to talk to the Main part of the AVM 50v. Also make sure you have fresh batteries in the remote AND that they are installed the right way around. (The similar looking buttons at the BOTTOM of the remote are for selecting which Source device you want to play at the moment -- don't confuse them with the buttons at the TOP of the remote, which control the function of the remote itself.)
--Bob
post #40398 of 42694
It was as simple as turning on the IR inputs. I completely overlooked it in the manual.

Thanks!
post #40399 of 42694
Nick has been posting frequently lately, so I am hoping he will post a reply to this question. I recently contacted my local Anthem dealer (who is different from the dealer that originally sold me the D2V) about the 3D upgrade. I have one of the older D2V's that will require the replacement of the additional video board, so I was expecting the cost to be higher. But they contacted Anthem and called me back to say that the unit needed to be shipped to Anthem for the upgrade. The last I had heard the upgrades were all done locally. Is this a new development?
post #40400 of 42694
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Originally Posted by DaveBoswell View Post

I have terrible hiss on the headphones input too - have so from day one when I purchased in summer of 2009, hardly ever use headphones so never bothered to send note to Tech Support. Was just using the headphones the other night and it's still there loud and "not" clear. Seems like from a pretty small sample here, many of us have the same hiss issue, and I too have notticed that the hiss does start and stop with when the "digital connection" is made suggesting that something pretty fundamental may be at play here.

I am going to log this with tech support, and ask that anyone else who also gets hiss through their headphones do the same, that way hopefully we can nudge Anthem to see if there is a software fix and not force us all to send our pre pros in for service (mine is out or warranty too).

Done.
post #40401 of 42694
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Yep. I suppose I should replace this mess with one cute little box:



wink.gif

Yeah, you should... wink.gif

I'm thinking of replacing my kit:



With this:


Won't even need the TV any more, much more tidy eek.gif

Regards

Russ
post #40402 of 42694
LOL, how dare you use vacuum tubes!
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OK when your listening to SACD through HDMI how does Bass Management Music come into play. My crossover for movies is set to 60hz and I want a fuller range for my Signature 6`s for music. I can set bass Manage for music at 40hz, but how does AVM50v differentiate music or movie. By the way, when researching OppoBDP 105 alot of people talked about this Diana Krall SACD, I picked it up and it sounds incredible!
post #40404 of 42694
And does anyones OSD, display in pink? Went from blue to pink for some reason
post #40405 of 42694
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Originally Posted by turk 182 View Post

....,,lBy the way, when researching OppoBDP 105 alot of people talked about this Diana Krall SACD, I picked it up and it sounds incredible!

Which Diana Krall SACD?
post #40406 of 42694
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Originally Posted by turk 182 View Post

OK when your listening to SACD through HDMI how does Bass Management Music come into play. My crossover for movies is set to 60hz and I want a fuller range for my Signature 6`s for music. I can set bass Manage for music at 40hz, but how does AVM50v differentiate music or movie. By the way, when researching OppoBDP 105 alot of people talked about this Diana Krall SACD, I picked it up and it sounds incredible!

Are you using ARC or are you setting things up manually yourself in Setup? If using ARC you should make changes in the ARC application, re-Calculate and re-Upload. If using ARC do NOT go into Setup afterwards and fiddle with the settings ARC has Uploaded for things like Crossover as the Room Correction parameters ARC Uploads are calculated assuming the matching settings in Setup that ARC Uploaded are also still in place.

Whether you use ARC or not, the Movie and Music configurations for Bass Management differ ONLY in the values you used. The "Movie" and "Music" names are just for convenience; they could have been called "Fred" and "Ethel". For example when using ARC there is no difference in how they are Calculated or they way the resulting solutions are applied during listening.

In Setup > Source Setup for each Source device you get to specify whether that definition should use the Move or Music Bass Management configuration. (There is also a little-used Auto-LFE choice which automatically selects the Movie configuration if the audio input includes an LFE channel -- whether or not there is actually any audio content present on that LFE channel.)

If you have set up your Movie solution for multi-channel audio content (as would be typical for movies) and your Music solution for stereo audio content, then you would typically use the MOVIE solution for playing multi-channel music content such as from SACD discs. Again, these are all choices you make yourself. The Anthem, even when using ARC, has no way of knowing that what you are playing is a movie or some music.

So for example, I have 3 Source setup definitions all of which use my OPPO BDP-105 as the Source device. Two of them use HDMI audio from it, and the third used 5.1 Analog audio from it. One of the HDMI definitions and the 5.1 Analog definition use my ARC solution for Movie. The other HDMI definition uses my ARC solution for Music. I play multi-channel music using either the 5.1 Analog setup or the HDMI setup set to Movie. I play stereo music using either the 5.1 Analog setup or the HDMI setup set to Music. I can use the 5.1 Analog setup for either type of music because the Anthem always sees it as 6 channel input. It has no way to know the silence in the Center and Surround input channels isn't "real". So it doesn't try to apply PLIIx to it or whatever to expand stereo music into the surrounds.

ALL of this stuff is personal preference. There is no patently "right" way to set this stuff up. Use the tools the Anthem provides to do what YOU want to do with the stuff you play.
--Bob
post #40407 of 42694
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Originally Posted by turk 182 View Post

And does anyones OSD, display in pink? Went from blue to pink for some reason

This is an HDMI handshake error. The display thinks it is getting RGB video when you are actually sending YCbCr video. In your Video Output Configuration in Setup, try setting an explicit output choice (YCbCr 4:4:4 would be typical) instead of using Auto. That simplifies the handshake and can help prevent such miscommunication.
--Bob
post #40408 of 42694
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

LOL, how dare you use vacuum tubes!

smile.gif I tried them (2 x Icon Audio MB90 MkII) driving the Mid/treble with Bryston 7B SSTs driving the bass... now gone back to just the Brystons and sold the tubes.

Regards

Russ
post #40409 of 42694
Interesting. I have the Bryston monoblocks too (not shown in my pic) and I'm just "down the road" from their facility. Can't imagine the coin it took to bring them across the pond!
post #40410 of 42694
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Originally Posted by hydrotex View Post

Which Diana Krall SACD?

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