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post #4051 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Nathan_R View Post


Am I SOL?

Thanks.

Does it work directly to the set?

Maybe, unfortunately, because I don't think anyone is doing 1080p over component into the Anthem. It's not an accepted standard.

You may want to try a place (check here at AVSforum) or digitalconnections com for a place that takes returns. You will probably do better (cheaper) going VGA-> DVI with a DVI-HDMI dongle. If it's like computers, what I do is use a high bandwidth DVI switch AFTER the Anthem.
post #4052 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Nathan_R View Post

Just curious, if you're thinking of getting an Anthem, what's stopping you from using the HDMI-2 solution? It's 1080p pure and simple You can even overcome the crippled Mits adjustments by adjusting the Anthem's input/output settings (in the OSD by holding the "7" key), if you're so inclined. I'm feeding 1080p to a WD-52628 and Optoma HD70, for what it's worth.


I wouldn't say that its stopping me...and I would certainly try to go that route, but I wanted to understand the limitations of my system under "normal" conditions.

I was a little confused in that in an earlier post, Bob P. layed out a detailed step by step on how to set up the VP and he started with adjusting the TV and working backwards in the chain toward the Anthem. That made sense to me. But, if using the HDMI-2 cripples the adjustments on the Mits, that won't work. I think what you're saying is that that can be overcome by using adjustments in the Anthem.

Thanks for chiming in!
post #4053 of 42686
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Originally Posted by rudolpht View Post

So much for that Idea...

If only a couple days you would be lucky, did direct work?

I haven't tried yet. I did change the setting from 4:4:4 to 4:2:2 within the Anthem Menu. I don't know if this will make a difference.

I'll try one change at a time as to hopefully be sure that the problem is not on my end.

Mark
post #4054 of 42686
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Originally Posted by yatchaks View Post

I haven't tried yet. I did change the setting from 4:4:4 to 4:2:2 within the Anthem Menu. I don't know if this will make a difference.

I'll try one change at a time as to hopefully be sure that the problem is not on my end.

Mark

The data format change is unlikely to alter things, but one thing that might be worth trying is to set Auto Dig = NO in the Setup / Source Setup page for that input. This keeps the Anthem from going through the logic to select digital audio (HDMI) vs. analog audio according to whether it sees a digital signal. This might be meaningful since I doubt the S3 has digital audio output, except possibly for sound efffects, when you are in its on screen displays.

This is a long shot, but as long as you are just trying things while waiting for the next software package from Anthem....
--Bob
post #4055 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The data format change is unlikely to alter things, but one thing that might be worth trying is to set Auto Dig = NO in the Setup / Source Setup page for that input. This keeps the Anthem from going through the logic to select digital audio (HDMI) vs. analog audio according to whether it sees a digital signal. This might be meaningful since I doubt the S3 has digital audio output, except possibly for sound efffects, when you are in its on screen displays.

This is a long shot, but as long as you are just trying things while waiting for the next software package from Anthem....
--Bob

I would say hook up the optical and leave it on that vs over the HDMI, but it appears your issues (unlike half of my old issues) are video based, so I don't know how much it would help (though one less variable).
post #4056 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Nathan_R View Post

Just curious, if you're thinking of getting an Anthem, what's stopping you from using the HDMI-2 solution? It's 1080p pure and simple You can even overcome the crippled Mits adjustments by adjusting the Anthem's input/output settings (in the OSD by holding the "7" key), if you're so inclined. I'm feeding 1080p to a WD-52628 and Optoma HD70, for what it's worth.

Nathan...do you still get a message on your display describing some sort of error when you are using this method of feeding 1080p to your display. Is it annoying?
post #4057 of 42686
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Originally Posted by ddimberio View Post

Nathan...do you still get a message on your display describing some sort of error when you are using this method of feeding 1080p to your display. Is it annoying?

I programmed a "TV OK" macro button on my Harmony that makes the message go away shortly after everything turns on. But yes, it's annoying.
post #4058 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Nathan_R View Post

I programmed a "TV OK" macro button on my Harmony that makes the message go away shortly after everything turns on. But yes, it's annoying.


Is it only when you turn the TV on?..or does it occur every time you change the channel?
post #4059 of 42686
It happens when I first fire up the Anthem (or TV) and if I change the output resolution of the Anthem.
post #4060 of 42686
Quick question re: the analog inputs to the D1/D2...(sorry if this has already been discussed)...the Panasonic HD player has seven analog outputs; the D1 (which I have) has 5 analog inputs. However, the manual section relating to "2-ch Balanced and 6-ch Single-Ended Analog Audio Inputs" says, in part, that "if unused for (the heading) purpose, the Front-Left and Front-Right connections can be used as an additional 2-channel input."

Does this mean that the D1 will accept the two additional inputs increasing the total inputs from the Panasonic from 5 to the 7 channels?
post #4061 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Ed Weinman View Post


Does this mean that the D1 will accept the two additional inputs increasing the total inputs from the Panasonic from 5 to the 7 channels?

I believe you might be right - but lets let MR. Anthem -
Bob Pariseau chime in here.

I stopped using Analog In when I sold my MC-12b.

Of course - I would highly recommend the D1 to D2 Upgrade [GRIN]!
post #4062 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Ed Weinman View Post

Quick question re: the analog inputs to the D1/D2...(sorry if this has already been discussed)...the Panasonic HD player has seven analog outputs; the D1 (which I have) has 5 analog inputs. However, the manual section relating to "2-ch Balanced and 6-ch Single-Ended Analog Audio Inputs" says, in part, that "if unused for (the heading) purpose, the Front-Left and Front-Right connections can be used as an additional 2-channel input."

Does this mean that the D1 will accept the two additional inputs increasing the total inputs from the Panasonic from 5 to the 7 channels?

That is certainly not the case on the D2 and I'd be very surprised if it was the case on the D1. You can only get 6 channels of analog audio (5 mains and the subwoofer channel) as input to the Main path at one time.

What they are saying is that if you have no need to use the 6-channel analog audio input to connect a 6-channel analog audio output device then you can use just the Front-L and Front-R pair out of those 6 sockets as another *STEREO* analog input. This would be identical to what would happen if you play (unprocessed) stereo content from a 6-channel analog audio output device -- i.e., the other 4 input cables are unused during that.
--Bob
post #4063 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

That is certainly not the case on the D2 and I'd be very surprised if it was the case on the D1.
--Bob

AS ALWAYS - Bob is CORRECT.

But I did go back to the manual to see what it said.

I did not check the manual because I thought there
was the SLIGHTEST possibility Bob was wrong. I wanted
to see what it said that led me to the WRONG answer.

I honestly had to read it three times - to get it correct.
The manual is correct and Bob is correct. Maybe some
better words would have made it a wee bit more clear.

NOW I GET IT!
post #4064 of 42686
I just received a email from Nick at Anthem regarding my satellite 1080i problem and the slow speed of switching inputs. Last friday he had me send him my settings editor and live video settings. To day he informed me that my frame lock was set to auto and had me change it to "off". All problems are now solved aand I can watch everything at 1080i. D2 is a great product and Anthem support is even greater.

Dick
post #4065 of 42686
dmorse4765,
Cool! But it DOES make me wonder what your satellite box was sending to the Anthem that confused auto frame lock so much....
--Bob
post #4066 of 42686
The above reminded me on the S3. Nick recommended Frame lock to off given the multiple scan rates. I always had it to off, but one more thing to check. ...
post #4067 of 42686
I am trying to get my connections straight for my "theater" setup in my basement and want to use the AVM50 as the hub. The question I have is if I hook up a Dish HD receiver via HDMI into the AVM 50 and then hook the HDMI out to a Gefen 2x2 HDMI splitter/switcher which in turn connects to 2 TVs, does the AVM50 have to be turned on for the tvs to function (my guess is yes)? My reason for asking is I am trying to set this up so my wife can just turn on the tv and watch without having to run the entire system.

Thanks
post #4068 of 42686
Yes the AVM-50 has to be on and the source (the Dish box in your case) has to be selected to get an HDMI signal through the AVM-50.

Running HDMI output through a splitter to 2 TVs may not be straightforward due to HDMI copy protection and signal setup issues. We have at least one poster here who apparently has managed to make it work, but you should be aware that this is something of a feat.
--Bob
post #4069 of 42686
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Originally Posted by bool View Post

I am trying to get my connections straight for my "theater" setup in my basement and want to use the AVM50 as the hub. The question I have is if I hook up a Dish HD receiver via HDMI into the AVM 50 and then hook the HDMI out to a Gefen 2x2 HDMI splitter/switcher which in turn connects to 2 TVs, does the AVM50 have to be turned on for the tvs to function (my guess is yes)? My reason for asking is I am trying to set this up so my wife can just turn on the tv and watch without having to run the entire system.

Thanks

You would need the splitter to split before the AVM (which removes the Hub type idea) & you would need someway to remotely control the dish box. However, I have had at best mixed results with Gefen splitters, so you may want to get from a company you can return it to. Unless you have a dish model that can put out two different sources you may also be fighting for control of the box (:O) It would be easier if the output to the second TV was component, but still require remotely setting zone on AVM and controlling device remotely. Ultimately have a second box at the TV is probably the easiest, based on my experience trying to do what you are trying to do. Hopefully the D3/AVM-60 will have 2nd HDMI out (no breath holding), but you would still need remote turn on of the AVM & Sat box & channel control.
post #4070 of 42686
Has anyone gotten the D2 to sucessfully send out and have accepted 1366x768 to a Pany using the DVI board. It works well at 1280x720 but no matter what I fiddle with settings wise I get no signal when at it's native rate. The HDMI cable is from Blue jeans cable as is the HDMI-DVI adapter. I noticed it also works under "custom resolution" but then under the 7 info key it states the output signal is unknown. Why is that?

Thanks,
Bill
post #4071 of 42686
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Originally Posted by BillW View Post

Has anyone gotten the D2 to sucessfully send out and have accepted 1366x768 to a Pany using the DVI board. It works well at 1280x720 but no matter what I fiddle with settings wise I get no signal when at it's native rate. The HDMI cable is from Blue jeans cable as is the HDMI-DVI adapter. I noticed it also works under "custom resolution" but then under the 7 info key it states the output signal is unknown. Why is that?

Thanks,
Bill

Not all 1366x768 signal timings are the same. Anthem chose to put one particular set of signal timings into the version accessible from the Video Output menu. Unfortunately for Panny owners, the Panny requires a different set of signal timings. These can be set up as a "Custom" video output using the Live Video Settings editor program from a PC (Anthem software V1.10 or later).

It would probably be better if the Anthem reported it was using a Custom output instead of an Unknown output in that case, but if your Custom settings are working that's pretty minor, right?
--Bob
post #4072 of 42686
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Originally Posted by dmorse4765 View Post

I just received a email from Nick at Anthem regarding my satellite 1080i problem and the slow speed of switching inputs. Last friday he had me send him my settings editor and live video settings. To day he informed me that my frame lock was set to auto and had me change it to "off". All problems are now solved aand I can watch everything at 1080i. D2 is a great product and Anthem support is even greater.

Dick

Which menu is frame lock in? I want to check my settings
Thanks
post #4073 of 42686
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Originally Posted by rlockshin View Post

Which menu is frame lock in? I want to check my settings
Thanks

For each overlayed input: Video Source Adjust menu / Output panel. Frame Lock = OFF is the default setting.
--Bob
post #4074 of 42686
Thanks for the info. I think I am going to try and split the HDMI signal out of the satellite box and hope for the best. If that doesn't work, try to split it out of the AVM50 and setup my Pronto to automatically turn everthing on so my wife can easily operate it. Finally if all else fails, run components out and try to split that signal and have to run seperate audio lines to the second tv (won't have to deal with HDMI at all then, but I would need more cables!) . I really do not want to have a seperate box since either tv 1 or tv 2 will be run and not both simultaneously.
post #4075 of 42686
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Originally Posted by bool View Post

Thanks for the info. I think I am going to try and split the HDMI signal out of the satellite box and hope for the best. If that doesn't work, try to split it out of the AVM50 and setup my Pronto to automatically turn everthing on so my wife can easily operate it. Finally if all else fails, run components out and try to split that signal and have to run seperate audio lines to the second tv (won't have to deal with HDMI at all then, but I would need more cables!) . I really do not want to have a seperate box since either tv 1 or tv 2 will be run and not both simultaneously.

Sounds like a good plan.
post #4076 of 42686
and now for a novice's stupid question:

I've got the new D2 out of box and am going through setup.

I have had two episodes where there was a "lock-up/freeze" such that unit did not respond to remote or button commands and I have had to unplug to reset. Also have had the unit not respond at all to the remote such that I had to remove the batteries for a remote reset (which then worked properly).

Any ideas what's going on?

Thanks.
post #4077 of 42686
You may have a bad remote or a bad set of batteries. See if the D2 responds to its own front panel buttons.

Also be aware that the D2 remote can control multiple devices and that the D2 itself is like 3 different devices -- Main path, Zone 2, and Zone 3. The buttons along the top of the remote tell the remote which device you want it to control. Do not confuse them with the buttons along the bottom of the remote that tell the D2 which input device you want to select for listening/viewing.

If the D2 appears unresponsive to the remote, first press the "Main" button in the green outlined area at the top of the remote. This tells the remote you want to control the D2 itself. and sets things to control the D2's Main path. Alternatively, press the Main button on the D2 itself to tell it you want to control Main path functions using the front panel buttons.

If problems persist, disconnect all inputs and outputs from the D2 and try operating it for a while using the Setup menu as viewed through the D2's own front panel. If that seems to work, double check each input and output connection carefully to make sure there is no chance things are being shorted somewhere.
--Bob
post #4078 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

You may have a bad remote or a bad set of batteries. See if the D2 responds to its own front panel buttons.

Also be aware that the D2 remote can control multiple devices and that the D2 itself is like 3 different devices -- Main path, Zone 2, and Zone 3. The buttons along the top of the remote tell the remote which device you want it to control. Do not confuse them with the buttons along the bottom of the remote that tell the D2 which input device you want to select for listening/viewing.

If the D2 appears unresponsive to the remote, first press the "Main" button in the green outlined area at the top of the remote. This tells the remote you want to control the D2 itself. and sets things to control the D2's Main path. Alternatively, press the Main button on the D2 itself to tell it you want to control Main path functions using the front panel buttons.

If problems persist, disconnect all inputs and outputs from the D2 and try operating it for a while using the Setup menu as viewed through the D2's own front panel. If that seems to work, double check each input and output connection carefully to make sure there is no chance things are being shorted somewhere.
--Bob


With my D2, about 2 months ago, one of my 2 remotes for the D2 stopped working..

Few months before that, had a few situations where remote would not respond. After restarting the D2, all worked for a while..

Then one day, no amount of restarting, or playing with D2 and remote helped.. Remote died...

It was good that my D2 came with 2 remotes...
post #4079 of 42686
In the SACD over HDMI thread there's a comment that SACD playback over HDMI from the Sony PS3 sounds significantly better than from the Oppo 970. See this post and beyond:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post9782257

MDREW's receiver is a Marantz 8001.

Since I believe we have some folks here with both hooked up, I'd appreciate getting some comments. If confirmed, that would be the first significant chink I know of in the quality of playback from the Oppo.
--Bob
post #4080 of 42686
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Originally Posted by Nevr2Big View Post

and now for a novice's stupid question:

I've got the new D2 out of box and am going through setup.

I have had two episodes where there was a "lock-up/freeze" such that unit did not respond to remote or button commands and I have had to unplug to reset. Also have had the unit not respond at all to the remote such that I had to remove the batteries for a remote reset (which then worked properly).

Any ideas what's going on?

Thanks.

I had the same thing happen about a month after setting up. It turned out to be the batteries (I used the ones in the package). As soon as I replaced them, voila! the D2 responded again. (However, the D2 DID respond to front buttons.)

Now, I have also had the D2 freeze up. Every time it has been apparently related to HDMI oddities. Now that I'm not changing things around all the time, I'm not seeing lockups.
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