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post #40711 of 42717
^ Did you really mean to type DTS-HD MR? Or are you playing the more common DTS-HD MA 5.1?

What discs are you playing with DTS-HD MR 5.1?
--Bob
post #40712 of 42717
There is no such thing as DTS HDMR. There is HD MA (Master Audio, lossless) and HD HR (High Resolution, high bitrate lossy).
post #40713 of 42717
Sorry.

I ment DTS HD MA 5.1 .....
post #40714 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

There is no such thing as DTS HDMR. There is HD MA (Master Audio, lossless) and HD HR (High Resolution, high bitrate lossy).

Now that I've given them the idea, they'll probably come up with a cunning new half way format and call it MR .... biggrin.gif
--Bob
post #40715 of 42717
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Originally Posted by p.las View Post

Sorry.

I ment DTS HD MA 5.1 .....

No problem. So you are hearing this with HDMI Bitstream output from the OPPO 83 for ALL DTS-HD MA 5.1 discs? And the brief dropouts happen at a fairly regular once every 10 minutes?

I presume you are running the latest firmware in the 83 -- from March of last year -- the 0117 firmware, right?

I can check this with my 83, but if the problem is limited to just a few discs, I may not have those discs.
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 5/15/13 at 2:20pm
post #40716 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

No problem. So you are hearing this with HDMI Bitstream output from the OPPO 83 for ALL DTS-HD MA 5.1 discs? And the brief dropouts happen at a fairly regular once every 10 minutes?

I presume you are running the latest firmware in the 83 -- from March of last year -- the 0117 firmware, right?

I can check this with my 83, but if the problem is limited to just a few discs, I may not have those discs.
--Bob

I'm happy to test too via my 83 if you post the discs.
post #40717 of 42717


Latrly I keep getting this message every time I turn on the Anthem or it switches sources. What's up?
post #40718 of 42717
^ That's not coming from the Anthem. It looks like your display is complaining about the audio input it is receiving. Do you have an HDMI cable going from the Source direct to the display?
--Bob
post #40719 of 42717
Bob is correct. It's an error on the TV. occasionally I have gotten that on my TV and its been an issue at the source. In my case it's been Source-->ANTHEM-->TV as the only path and connectivity. So I have experienced it via a connection only with the Anthem in the middle.
post #40720 of 42717
Yes! I have an HDMI coming from the Anthem out into a Sharp Elite. I wonder if this is SHARP setting then ?
post #40721 of 42717
The HDMI output of the Anthem includes stereo LPCM audio -- suitable for use with built-in stereo speakers in a TV. Sounds like the TV is getting confused by the HDMI handshake and thinks something else is coming in that it can't handle.
--Bob
post #40722 of 42717
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Originally Posted by p.las View Post

Sorry.

I ment DTS HD MA 5.1 .....

Using D2v firmware V3.09j, I checked with HDMI Bitstream from the OPPO 83 into HDMI 8 input on the D2v/3D.

Tested with the DTS-HD MA 5.1 track from "Rango", Blu-ray.

I didn't notice any audio dropouts, brief or otherwise.
--Bob
post #40723 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The HDMI output of the Anthem includes stereo LPCM audio -- suitable for use with built-in stereo speakers in a TV. Sounds like the TV is getting confused by the HDMI handshake and thinks something else is coming in that it can't handle.
--Bob

In my particular case (if I recall correctly) it has been when there has been a pause or audio issue at the source. Specifically what I'll see is the Anthem sending a video signal but there will be no audio registering on the front panel of the anthem. Then ill need to reboot something to get it all working. I'll pay more attention to it the next time it happens. I think I've experienced it with my AppleTV and Oppo BDP-83. I can't recall if I've also experienced it when a mode will change. For example it will go from Dolby digital or PLII to Dolby HD.
post #40724 of 42717
^ The easy fix, presuming you don't actually want to use the TV's speakers, is to set up the TV to take its audio input from a stereo RCA jack pair as when connecting a DVI device to it. Thus it won't try to handshake for the HDMI audio input.
--Bob
post #40725 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

No problem. So you are hearing this with HDMI Bitstream output from the OPPO 83 for ALL DTS-HD MA 5.1 discs? And the brief dropouts happen at a fairly regular once every 10 minutes?

I presume you are running the latest firmware in the 83 -- from March of last year -- the 0117 firmware, right?

I can check this with my 83, but if the problem is limited to just a few discs, I may not have those discs.
--Bob

yes - for all DTS HDMA 5.1

a funny thing. I allways have this picture cadance problem. For every 10 minut or so , i looks like the picture jump in cadance. this issue is no longer there. But the audui issue have replaced this picture issue. I will try to check the firmware on my Oppo player
post #40726 of 42717
the firmware wasent up to date. so i connectet the LAN cable , and updated. I will late you know how thins is. Damn - this Oppo thing is smooth. it hardley took a minute to update smile.gif
post #40727 of 42717
The audio issue is still there. It happens so fast that it more Sound like a "glitch" m than a dropouts . I don't know. But i Got a feeling that is has something to dó with the former picture issue.......looks like a frame is out off sync, very shortly
post #40728 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ The easy fix, presuming you don't actually want to use the TV's speakers, is to set up the TV to take its audio input from a stereo RCA jack pair as when connecting a DVI device to it. Thus it won't try to handshake for the HDMI audio input.
--Bob
Thanks ill see if I can figure out the settings on that.
post #40729 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ The easy fix, presuming you don't actually want to use the TV's speakers, is to set up the TV to take its audio input from a stereo RCA jack pair as when connecting a DVI device to it. Thus it won't try to handshake for the HDMI audio input.
--Bob

Excellent suggestion as usual Bob!
post #40730 of 42717
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Originally Posted by p.las View Post

The audio issue is still there. It happens so fast that it more Sound like a "glitch" m than a dropouts . I don't know. But i Got a feeling that is has something to dó with the former picture issue.......looks like a frame is out off sync, very shortly

What is the OPPO 83 sending to the Anthem for video frame rate when this happens: /60, /50, or /24? Is the OPPO sending 1080p or 1080i?

And what is the Anthem sending to your display for output frame rate? Check both the input and output in the Video Source Adjust > Info panel display on the Anthem to confirm what's actually happening.

In addition, I suggest you do a complete reset of the OPPO. Remove any disc in the tray, go into Setup in the OPPO, and:

1) Jot down your OPPO settings.

2) In Device Setup, Erase Persistent Storage

3) In Device Setup, Reset Factory Defaults. When the Easy Setup Wizard finishes, power off the OPPO.

4) Pull the power plug of the OPPO for about 10 seconds. Do not skip this step.

5) Power up and re-enter your personal settings.

6) Power down one more time. Settings are saved during the power down cycle.


The above will eliminate any chance that something screwy is left over from the prior firmware.

Check for the glitch again. If it still happens, check whether or not it is repeatable if you rewind a bit and play through the same scene again. Does the glitch repeat at the same time codes, or does it happen at random time codes but spaced fairly uniformly apart at about once every 10 minutes?

What disc are you using to check this? You still haven't told us.
--Bob
post #40731 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

What is the OPPO 83 sending to the Anthem for video frame rate when this happens: /60, /50, or /24? Is the OPPO sending 1080p or 1080i?

And what is the Anthem sending to your display for output frame rate? Check both the input and output in the Video Source Adjust > Info panel display on the Anthem to confirm what's actually happening.

In addition, I suggest you do a complete reset of the OPPO. Remove any disc in the tray, go into Setup in the OPPO, and:

1) Jot down your OPPO settings.

2) In Device Setup, Erase Persistent Storage

3) In Device Setup, Reset Factory Defaults. When the Easy Setup Wizard finishes, power off the OPPO.

4) Pull the power plug of the OPPO for about 10 seconds. Do not skip this step.

5) Power up and re-enter your personal settings.

6) Power down one more time. Settings are saved during the power down cycle.


The above will eliminate any chance that something screwy is left over from the prior firmware.

Check for the glitch again. If it still happens, check whether or not it is repeatable if you rewind a bit and play through the same scene again. Does the glitch repeat at the same time codes, or does it happen at random time codes but spaced fairly uniformly apart at about once every 10 minutes?

What disc are you using to check this? You still haven't told us.
--Bob

Anthem display - in 1920x1080/24 and the same goes for the video output

Video output is set to 1080p in the oppo. 1080p24 is set to on in oppo menu

I have tried you advise , and vill se what happens. It dosent matter what movie it is. Just as long that us s bluray movie with DTS HDMA 5.1 audio.
Thanks for your help Bob 👍
post #40732 of 42717
I forgot
When there is at glitch, and i return to det samme place, the glitch dosent apear again
post #40733 of 42717
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Originally Posted by p.las View Post

I forgot
When there is at glitch, and i return to det samme place, the glitch dosent apear again

^ p.las

I wonder if you would be willing to change both the OPPO and the Anthem from 1080P/24 to 1080P/60 and see if you still have the problem.
post #40734 of 42717
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Originally Posted by p.las View Post

Anthem display - in 1920x1080/24 and the same goes for the video output

Video output is set to 1080p in the oppo. 1080p24 is set to on in oppo menu

I have tried you advise , and vill se what happens. It dosent matter what movie it is. Just as long that us s bluray movie with DTS HDMA 5.1 audio.
Only US Blu-rays you say? So it's not a 1080i50 European issue?

Another thing, you said nothing had changed in a while, and I have the same system as you with zero glitches. Could it be heat related? Maybe the fan is blocked with dust or something in your cabinet was physically moved? How is the weather in Denmark?
Edited by AVfile - 5/16/13 at 8:10pm
post #40735 of 42717
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Only US Blu-rays you say? So it's not a 1080i50 European issue?

Another thing, you said nothing had changed in a while, and I have the same system as you with zero glitches. Could it be heat related? Maybe the fan is blocked with dust or something in your cabinet was physically moved? How is the weather in Denmark?

All my bd movies is eu versions........1080/24

The weather in Denmark is rather cold :-) it is not a heat problem
post #40736 of 42717
Ok smile.gif
I would try Bob's last suggestion.

Do you use "source direct" video mode in the Oppo or explicit 1080p setting?
post #40737 of 42717
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Ok smile.gif
I would try Bob's last suggestion.

Do you use "source direct" video mode in the Oppo or explicit 1080p setting?

i am using 1080p out of the player . not source direct.
post #40738 of 42717
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

^ p.las

I wonder if you would be willing to change both the OPPO and the Anthem from 1080P/24 to 1080P/60 and see if you still have the problem.



p.las

This is definitely worth a try.
post #40739 of 42717
I had a chance to get a used D2v at a good price and took it. As a prior D2 owner I am familiar with most of the setup, but I do have a couple of questions.

1- I see where you can set a source to 'through'. Does that turn off the video processor??
2- If not, is there a way to turn off the video processor??
3- was the Keyspan adapter included with the D2v from the beginning?? This unit was bought in 2009, and if the Keyspan wasn't included back then, then I need to get one.

Thanks,
Tom
post #40740 of 42717
^ Through bypasses the video processor -- the video is negotiated between the Source and the Display -- except to the extent the video has to be processed to extract the audio.

Through mode only works if your D2v has the new D2v 3D upgrade, and even then only for HDMI Inputs 1-4 to HDMI output 1. Except for Through mode, there is no way to completely bypass the video processing, although, as with the D2, if the video resolution and format in and out match, and if defaults are used in the Video Source Adjust menu, the video processing is essentially transparent anyway.

Anthem only negotiated their deal to distribute the Keyspan adapter after the D2v started shipping. I forget exactly when. So you may indeed need to get one. Anthem sells them separately, in the unlikely event you are having trouble finding one.
--Bob
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