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post #41401 of 42698
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Originally Posted by SimonNo10 View Post

I think I've made a break through with the buzzing issue. I connected some wire to the grounding screw on the D2v and touched the positive speaker banana plug of the front right speaker on the Krell and the buzzing stopped straightaway. What does this mean? Is there an issue with that input on the power amp?

This was after touching the Oppo and nothing but as soon as I touched the speaker cable banana plug end of the front right speaker positive end (red) connected into the Krell it went away instantly.

When checking for ground problems you should only try joining the case of each item to a common point, or screening of cables - but never the actual signal lines. I would assume that you may have simply caused the Krell to trip out - and hope that you haven't actually blown one side of its output stage.
Have you checked that all channels are still working?
Hum in one channels could indicate a faulty channel, normally any particular device with a ground issue will cause noise on all of the channels it is connected to.
Regards Mike.
post #41402 of 42698
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Originally Posted by AV_mike View Post

When checking for ground problems you should only try joining the case of each item to a common point, or screening of cables - but never the actual signal lines. I would assume that you may have simply caused the Krell to trip out - and hope that you haven't actually blown one side of its output stage.
Have you checked that all channels are still working?
Hum in one channels could indicate a faulty channel, normally any particular device with a ground issue will cause noise on all of the channels it is connected to.
Regards Mike.

Yes I guess that could have happened but I tested all channels and there all working. If the buzzing occurs again I won't touch the wire to the input. I will have to assume the channel is faulty and organise a repair. Thanks for the reply and advice.
post #41403 of 42698
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Originally Posted by MACCA350 View Post

Um, that's not a good idea......assuming the XLR's are still connected its likely the anthem chassis is grounding through the XLR's to the Krell's(and others) ground. So basically you just short circuited the Krell's right front speaker output......ie speaker output positive to ground(the negative speaker output is usually connected to ground internally).

Please don't go touching that grounded wire to any live positive terminals. The point of the exercise was to touch the chassis of other equipment.

Cheers

+1
post #41404 of 42698
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Originally Posted by SimonNo10 View Post

Yes I guess that could have happened but I tested all channels and there all working. If the buzzing occurs again I won't touch the wire to the input. I will have to assume the channel is faulty and organise a repair. Thanks for the reply and advice.

SimonNo10

If and when the buzzing reoccurs simply switch the output wires on the Krell amp. Left to Right and Right to Left and note if the buzzing moves to the other channel.
If there is no change then switch the input cables to the Krell amp and look for a change in channels.
post #41405 of 42698
For your edification and comments.
(Would be nice if the graph posting FAQ could be separated and titled for the forgetful among us.)
Never tried this before but loaded ARC measurements from a MRX 700 to a AVM 40 w/ARC. (Needed to do a quick demo) AVM asked if we wanted to convert file. We said OK.

Equipment: Anthem MRX 700 and AVM 40
Paradigm S 100s, CC590, ADP 590, Sub 15

Here you go:
TJG and Kevin

post #41406 of 42698
Sorry,
This was meant for the MRX forum.
TJG
post #41407 of 42698
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Originally Posted by TJG55 View Post

Sorry,
This was meant for the MRX forum.
TJG

Nobody will be able to READ Your Graphs over there either.

WAY TOO SMALL
post #41408 of 42698
Try these graphs.

AMV 40





MRX 700




Edited by ReelBandit - 8/21/13 at 12:45pm
post #41409 of 42698
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Nobody will be able to READ Your Graphs over there either.

WAY TOO SMALL

No they are OK. Right click on the photo and select open in a New Window and they are perfect size to read.

One thing I see is the increase in horsepower the AVM40 has over the MRX700
post #41410 of 42698
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

No they are OK. Right click on the photo and select open in a New Window and they are perfect size to read.

One thing I see is the increase in horsepower the AVM40 has over the MRX700

Aimed at the Wrong Person and in the WRONG FORUM
post #41411 of 42698
I believe I just stated that.
TJG
post #41412 of 42698
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Originally Posted by TJG55 View Post

I believe I just stated that.
TJG

3 hours ago does not count as JUST STATED
post #41413 of 42698
I stated the error within 19 minutes.....did not realize I had exceeded the time limit.
I grovel in mortification.
TJG
post #41414 of 42698
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Originally Posted by TJG55 View Post

I stated the error within 19 minutes.....did not realize I had exceeded the time limit.
I grovel in mortification.
TJG

That was three HOURS ago.

My quote to thestewman was that he was quoting the WRONG PERSON.
post #41415 of 42698
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Aimed at the Wrong Person and in the WRONG FORUM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TJG55 View Post

I believe I just stated that.
TJG

They were also posting about the AVM40 which may logically fall into this forum.
And anyway. If looking for information about ARC where else would be the best place for information ?
This forum has the most experienced users of ARC on the planet.

I consistently look for info on 4K video like REDRAY, ODEMAx etc and with so few flat screen 4K displays there is a wealth of information on the 4K Front Projector forum.
Never has anyone on that forum objected to my posting or questions



Stew
post #41416 of 42698
Stew,
Maybe you should be groveling with me.
TJG
post #41417 of 42698
Not exactly horrible measurements to begin with, perhaps only the main speakers needed moving away from the wall. I'm willing to bet that some people would actually prefer the sound of those speakers without ARC. Do you recall what the system sounded like with or without ARC?
post #41418 of 42698
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by TJG55 View Post

Sorry,
This was meant for the MRX forum.
TJG

Nobody will be able to READ Your Graphs over there either.

WAY TOO SMALL
AVS is getting too fancy for its own good.

Click on the "thumbnail" strip of photos in his post. That will open a similar looking thumbnail strip in "gallery view". Then click on any row of that and you'll see a readable sized version of just that pair of charts with the ability to move left or right through the rest of them.
--Bob
post #41419 of 42698
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

AVS is getting too fancy for its own good.

Click on the "thumbnail" strip of photos in his post. That will open a similar looking thumbnail strip in "gallery view". Then click on any row of that and you'll see a readable sized version of just that pair of charts with the ability to move left or right through the rest of them.
--Bob

Maybe TJG55 thinks the people on the MRX Forum have better magnifying glasses.
post #41420 of 42698
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

SimonNo10

If and when the buzzing reoccurs simply switch the output wires on the Krell amp. Left to Right and Right to Left and note if the buzzing moves to the other channel.
If there is no change then switch the input cables to the Krell amp and look for a change in channels.

Ok will do and thanks guys for the warnings. I checked this morning and there's no buzzing so will keep trying during the day and see if it comes back and will post when it does.

*Update* Still nothing and it's 4.52pm. I tuned on the D2v and listened to the radio for 5mins then off. Turned amp on only and no buzzing, so far so good.
Edited by SimonNo10 - 8/21/13 at 11:53pm
post #41421 of 42698
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Originally Posted by TJG55 View Post

Stew,
Maybe you should be groveling with me.
TJG

Thanks for posting, I for one was interested in seeing the increased correction filter resolution available in the up-market Anthem products. And seeing that this thread has ARC tweaking guide as part of its title, all is fine by me.
Stands back and waits for rockets to land..................
Regards, Mike.
post #41422 of 42698
Again, my apologies.
I could not remember how to post graphs (its been about 3 or 4 years). I was working with my tech who did the runs with me and then we decided to post for others since not many people would not have the chance to run this comparison. We bumbled around for a couple of hours between clients trying to get info posted. Sorry, we did the best we could. If anyone can give me the correct method I would certainly appreciate it.
Note my suggestion to separate and retitle the FAQ info on given subject. I know the steps have been stated many times but couldn't remember where.

As to sound differences, very difficult to be definitive... running A-5 with AVM 40, very little listening time (will likely reverse system back to MRX700 shortly.)
But, first impressions....slightly smoother sound overall, better bass definition and integration, better soundstage focus........just better overall.
How much better? Ear of the beholder, I guess.
TJG
post #41423 of 42698
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Originally Posted by TJG55 View Post

Again, my apologies.
I could not remember how to post graphs (its been about 3 or 4 years). I was working with my tech who did the runs with me and then we decided to post for others since not many people would not have the chance to run this comparison. We bumbled around for a couple of hours between clients trying to get info posted. Sorry, we did the best we could. If anyone can give me the correct method I would certainly appreciate it.
Note my suggestion to separate and retitle the FAQ info on given subject. I know the steps have been stated many times but couldn't remember where.

As to sound differences, very difficult to be definitive... running A-5 with AVM 40, very little listening time (will likely reverse system back to MRX700 shortly.)
But, first impressions....slightly smoother sound overall, better bass definition and integration, better soundstage focus........just better overall.
How much better? Ear of the beholder, I guess.
TJG

I will try to paste the instructions from the AVS faq for you.
The 'image' icon is the one at the top of the Reply page just to the left of the paperclip 'attachment' icon.
Their instructions say to click on 'browse' --- click on the 'upload image'. This will allow you to get into which ever library (photos/documents/etc) so you can then browse and double click on the file you want to upload.

Add Images To Posts And Articles

Upload and Embed an Image from Your Computer
1.
In a forum post or article, find the Image button which looks like this: b539f020_addimage-button.png - this button exists in both the rich text editor and the BB Code editor.

2.
Click the button to open the Image Tool.

3.
To upload and insert an image saved on your computer, click "Browse." This open is set as the default when you open the Image Tool.

4.
You will be able to browse your computer to find the image you would like to upload. Simply highlight your desired image and click "Open."

5.
After you select the image, you can adjust the file name as you like before hitting "OK."

6.
You can also add a Description for your image. This Description will appear on the Image Info page and it will appear in a lightbox popover when the image is accessed from a forum post.

7.
You will also see a check box to "Save a copy to my default album" - if you check this box, you will see the uploaded image in your default album. From there, you will be able to move it into another album or edit the title, description, etc.

8.
Click "OK" to upload the image and insert it into your post or article.




If you are using the rich text editor, once your image is inserted, you can change its size or position. Right click the image and select "Image Properties." Once in the "Image Properties" tool, you can edit the width, height, and the alignment of the image.
Edited by tngiloy - 8/23/13 at 10:37am
post #41424 of 42698
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post #41425 of 42698
Hi,

I've just recently bought a D2v and have been playing with ARC. A quick question; has anybody managed to get it working with a Mac. I have tried it with my MacBook Air running Windows 7 under VMware Fusion 4. All seemed to go well until it tried to upload the correction file to the D2v. At that point it failed with an error saying that the 'Offset was not found' or something similar.

I know that the manual says to use Bootcamp, but I thought I'd give Fusion 4 a try first as I understand that others may have got it working under Fusion 2. I have actually got the configuration files loaded into the D2v now using an old Dell laptop running XP, kept specifically for upgrading the firmware in HiFi components that use serial ports. Just goes to show you should never throw old computing gear away smile.gif

Any suggestions welcome.

Many thanks smile.gif
post #41426 of 42698
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Originally Posted by UKRoman View Post

Hi,

I've just recently bought a D2v and have been playing with ARC. A quick question; has anybody managed to get it working with a Mac. I have tried it with my MacBook Air running Windows 7 under VMware Fusion 4. All seemed to go well until it tried to upload the correction file to the D2v. At that point it failed with an error saying that the 'Offset was not found' or something similar.

I know that the manual says to use Bootcamp, but I thought I'd give Fusion 4 a try first as I understand that others may have got it working under Fusion 2. I have actually got the configuration files loaded into the D2v now using an old Dell laptop running XP, kept specifically for upgrading the firmware in HiFi components that use serial ports. Just goes to show you should never throw old computing gear away smile.gif

Any suggestions welcome.

Many thanks smile.gif

Yep I have a old Dell for that exact purpose as well.

post #41427 of 42698
I use Windows 7 running on Bootcamp. At one point -- and this was quite a while back -- it was discovered that the Keyspan USB serial adapter didn't work well with the version of VMWare then available. A Belkin adapter worked better. If you search this thread for Belkin you may find the details. I've no idea if that still holds true.

Whichever adapter you are using -- and the Keyspan USA-19HS has proved far and away the most reliable for most people -- be sure to check on the adapter's web site to get the most up to date driver for you particular flavor of Windows.
--Bob
post #41428 of 42698
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Originally Posted by thestewman View Post

SimonNo10

If and when the buzzing reoccurs simply switch the output wires on the Krell amp. Left to Right and Right to Left and note if the buzzing moves to the other channel.
If there is no change then switch the input cables to the Krell amp and look for a change in channels.

After almost 2 days the buzzing returned. I did as you suggested and removed the Right Front speaker cables and swapped them with the Front Left and the buzzing didn't transfer. I then removed the Right Front XLR and swapped with the Front Left XLR and the buzzing wasn't there. Put things back to normal and the buzzing comes out of the Front Right Speaker. So with this now tested am I to believe the Front Right XLR/channel input stage is defective?
post #41429 of 42698
^ One other possibility is that you have faulty/intermittent interconnect cables on the failing side -- not the signal, just the shielding -- i.e., the cable shield is not making good contact end to end, but when you move the cables it makes contact. This could also explain why it takes time for the problem to return, as the cable slowly sags under its weight.

Try swapping in the cables from the good side, and also try shifting the cables on the bad side about a bit to see if you can detect something like that.

The odds are not great, but replacing cables is cheaper, so definitely worth a try. If the cables from the good side still exhibit the problem when used on the bad side, then yeah, it sounds like faulty electronics.
--Bob
post #41430 of 42698
Guys, I'll be having my dealer install the 3D upgrade card for my D2V next week, and wondering a couple things about my setup as I prepare for the surgery:

1. How long did it take you to have your D2V upgraded? Is it a 10 minute operation or are we talking several hours of work to simply add the 3D upgrade? [Incidentally, I do already have 3.09 already installed on my D2V].

2. I have the Oppo 95 BluRay player, and for the last 2 years, I've had it cabled in a "workaround" fashion, in order to handle 3D movie viewing - essentially, all this time, I've been using HDMI 1 port directly to my 3D capable TV, and HDMI 2 is cabled to the D2V for ONLY the audio side of things. I think I had to configure some different settings in the Oppo to make all of this play nice, but it's been working great for 2 years, so I haven't touched it. Now of course, this will all be changing. Following the 3D upgrade card being installed in my D2V, I assume I would just get rid of 1 of my 2 HDMI outputs from the Oppo, correct? I would just send HDMI 1 cable out directly to the D2V, and I guess not use HDMI 2 at all. Or is there still some advantage to separating HDMI 1 for video only and HDMI 2 for audio siginals only, both going to the D2V of course now?

Set me straight if you could, and any other hints of feedback are appreciated on this.

-Brian
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