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post #421 of 42717
ManWithAPlan,

Thanks for the input. I agree that my dealer is giving me a lousy excuse on the delay of my D2. I really wonder if they just forgot to order it, or gave mine to somebody else? They now say I will have it in 2 weeks, and if not I am going elsewhere.

Your feedback on the performance of the D2 is helpful in restoring my confidence in following through with this purchase. This is more money than I have ever spent on a SSP before, so I want it to definitely be worth it. When I finally get one I will let you know my impressions, and how it is working for me.
post #422 of 42717
The pictures of the Anthem 50 in the Anthem web site show silver Anthem 50s. Just wanted to confirm - does the Anthem 50 also come in black?
post #423 of 42717
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Originally Posted by randman View Post

The pictures of the Anthem 50 in the Anthem web site show silver Anthem 50s. Just wanted to confirm - does the Anthem 50 also come in black?

If not, this just might just force me into the D2 :-)
post #424 of 42717
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Originally Posted by mlbrand View Post

ManWithAPlan,

Thanks for the input. I agree that my dealer is giving me a lousy excuse on the delay of my D2. I really wonder if they just forgot to order it, or gave mine to somebody else? They now say I will have it in 2 weeks, and if not I am going elsewhere.

Ask your dealer to give you a copy of the original order confirmation with order date. There have been more D2's delivered over the past month than drops of rain during the brief rain shower in Boston this morning. Seriously, an acquaintance in Florida ordered one around May 8th and it was delivered yesterday.

Remember that the D2 is a pricey unit and Anthem, like other dealers, has credit lines with its' dealers, so if your dealer had exceeded his credit line, then, he would be required to make a payment to Anthem before your D2 could be delivered.

I am not saying that this is what happened with your dealer, but it does not sound as if he is shooting straight with you. Unless the pricing is unbelievable, why would not go to another dealer, if there is anotherauthorized local Anthem outlet.

You will enjoy it when it arrives! Hopefully sooner rather than later.
post #425 of 42717
I have a black AVM-50 so YES!!! it does come in black
post #426 of 42717
Good to know it comes in black (but in a way, not, since it's one less reason to get a D2 :-) ).
post #427 of 42717
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Originally Posted by pciav View Post

It certainly is interesting and not all SA8300HD's are created equal. It is dependent on the cable system and software running. In my case it is Time Warner Cable with Passport Software. The main problem is with the HDMI implementation and software on my SA8300HD; howver, based upon the fact that I had zero issues when using the HDMI out connected to my Lumagen VisionPro HDP tells me that there is also something different, not necessarily wrong, just different with Anthem's HDMI and HDCP implementation. Hopefully they will figure it out and get it in an upcoming update

The following URL may shed some light on the problem with the SA 8300HD:

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=21194
post #428 of 42717
My quest to see a D2 or an AVM-50 live have proved to be rather futile. I'm to the point where I wish Anthem would just sell direct over the Internet. My local authorized dealer only special orders Anthem products but was more then happy to show me his Rotel gear. Then I plugged a bunch of different zip codes into Anthems site to find the next nearest dealer. This dealer actuallly said that they had a few AVM-50s in back but were all spoken for, they did say they would have a floor model in a few weeks. I asked about the D2 and they told me they are not a Statement dealer. OK back to the web site plug in more zip codes and find the closest Statement dealer over 80miles away. I' guess I'll call them next.

I think I've been spoiled by the instant gradification of the Internet. I'm really to the point where I despise walking into a B&M store and dealing with someone who knows less then I do about the product. I'm really interested in seeing one live as I have the SA 8300HD and would like to see one hooked up with my cable provider.

Well... sorry for the rant I just had to vent a little.

Is there a master list of Anthem dealers someplace? The web site only shows one dealer for any zipcode I enter.
post #429 of 42717
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Originally Posted by randman View Post

The following URL may shed some light on the problem with the SA 8300HD:

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=21194

Thanks Randman, but nothing new here. With the repeater function in the D2 off the SA8300HD works. The problem I am experiencing is not that HDMI doesn't work it is how it works. Just turning the D2 on to any input makes the SA8300HD power up and look for a signal to sync to. This starts a manic switching on/off of the cable box that is just not feasible to live with.

Again, just to be clear, I used the SA8300HD with my Lumagen via HDMI > DVI for a year and half without a single HDCP issue and certainly nothing like the above. Yes the SA8300HD has problems, but there is a definite work around and it seems to be based upon the implementation in the VP. I am hopeful Anthem will figure it out.
post #430 of 42717
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Originally Posted by randman View Post

The following URL may shed some light on the problem with the SA 8300HD:

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=21194

Thanks for the link, I am experiencing cable box problems and the above link provided some good information. I started looking into HDMI switchers and realized that if I do this, then I am bypassing the 1080i deinterlacing of the Gennum VP in the AVM50.

I've had all kinds of headaches and the work arounds seem to be to move to analog connections (for my cable box and multi-channel audio from DVD-audio).

I did speak to Nick at Anthem and he sent me a beta firmware update that might fix my problems, though he said a newer firmware is expected in days (don't know if he meant a release, or another beta version). My only hesitation in updating the firmware is the verbage in the manual that says firmware updates by the end user are not covered by warranty if something happens during upgrade. That's certainly incentive to try to upgrade your $5500 SSP yourself
post #431 of 42717
I ordered my D2 on 4/22 and took delivery on 5/18 (which includes ground shipment to California and my dealer not actually placing the order until 4/25). That's a little over 3 weeks.

In spite of the fact that I am awaiting a replacement D2, I still like the beast. I'm still trying to figure out how it works. There just isn't enough time to explore all the nooks and crannies. As I've said before the improvement is sound is dramatic!

larry
post #432 of 42717
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FerretHunter View Post

My only hesitation in updating the firmware is the verbage in the manual that says firmware updates by the end user are not covered by warranty if something happens during upgrade. That's certainly incentive to try to upgrade your $5500 SSP yourself

Don't hesitate. I'm was changing my firmware almost every 2 weeks before getting v1.00 (pre-production... going back and forth with each new iteration). It's really easy to do, and you also have Nick's benediction to do it. So don't worry about doing it.

It takes 10 minutes to install a new firmware. You just have to do it properly. Save your settings in the last menu of the D2 first. Then reload "Default settings". Then install the new firmware. Then re-load the settings you did save on the 1st step.

If it's not working the 1st time, then just press "Install" again. Sometimes (rarely) it takes 2 times before working. The software will tell you if something went wrong. Don't worry.
post #433 of 42717
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Originally Posted by lchurch View Post

I ordered my D2 on 4/22 and took delivery on 5/18 (which includes ground shipment to California and my dealer not actually placing the order until 4/25). That's a little over 3 weeks.

larry

Sounds like a 3-week turn-around isn't strange for new orders. I placed an order for an AVM-50 a week ago, and my dealer told me to anticipate receiving it in three weeks. I have an MCA-50 sitting on the floor and the wait is killing me!
post #434 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Nathan_R View Post

I have an MCA-50 sitting on the floor and the wait is killing me!

Yea, the wait was tough. Luckily, I had so much going on in my life durring those three weeks, that the time just *flew* by. It will certainly be worth the wait.

larry
post #435 of 42717
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Originally Posted by LEVESQUE View Post

Don't hesitate. I'm was changing my firmware almost every 2 weeks before getting v1.00 (pre-production... going back and forth with each new iteration). It's really easy to do, and you also have Nick's benediction to do it. So don't worry about doing it.

It takes 10 minutes to install a new firmware. You just have to do it properly. Save your settings in the last menu of the D2 first. Then reload "Default settings". Then install the new firmware. Then re-load the settings you did save on the 1st step.

If it's not working the 1st time, then just press "Install" again. Sometimes (rarely) it takes 2 times before working. The software will tell you if something went wrong. Don't worry.

Ok, I'll give it a try this weekend. If it doesn't work, I will probably pick up one of these HDMI switchers. Damn HDMI!

Oh and I have some ideas about what might be the problem with the 79avi playing the Foreigner DVD-Audio over HDMI. I'm going to try it and if it doesn't work, I'll post my 79avi settings. I haven't forgotten that you asked me for the settings. If all else fails, I did buy some analog cables for plan B.
post #436 of 42717
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Originally Posted by yatchaks View Post

When I press the select button, the unit reads AVM 30-HD. Shouldn't it say AVM 50? Anyone else have the same display reading?

On my unit it says "AVM 50 v1.01"
post #437 of 42717
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Originally Posted by FerretHunter View Post

Thanks for the link, I am experiencing cable box problems and the above link provided some good information. I started looking into HDMI switchers and realized that if I do this, then I am bypassing the 1080i deinterlacing of the Gennum VP in the AVM50.

I've had all kinds of headaches and the work arounds seem to be to move to analog connections (for my cable box and multi-channel audio from DVD-audio).

I did speak to Nick at Anthem and he sent me a beta firmware update that might fix my problems, though he said a newer firmware is expected in days (don't know if he meant a release, or another beta version). My only hesitation in updating the firmware is the verbage in the manual that says firmware updates by the end user are not covered by warranty if something happens during upgrade. That's certainly incentive to try to upgrade your $5500 SSP yourself

Can you elaborate on what cable box you are using and what the problems are? Wondering if they're the same symptoms that Phil (pciav) mentioned earlier.

Keep us up to date on how the firmware update works.

Thanks.
post #438 of 42717
First off, let me clarify that I have an AVM50, not a D2. Both should work similarly and since there is more activity in this thread, I thought I'd post in here.

I applied the firmware update (1.01b). The update process was very easy. I won't say painless because I was worried if I might screw up my AVM50. But everything went smoothly, took roughly 5 minutes. Sorry to say, but my problems are still there.

I'll keep using the component outputs from the STB, and I will momentarily be hooking up analog outs from my 79avi for the multichannel audio.
post #439 of 42717
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Originally Posted by randman View Post

Can you elaborate on what cable box you are using and what the problems are? Wondering if they're the same symptoms that Phil (pciav) mentioned earlier.

Keep us up to date on how the firmware update works.

Thanks.

I have a Rogers Cable HDTV box (Scientific Atlanta 3250). When I connected it via HDMI (with an HDMI/DVI adaptor at the HDTV box), I get one of four possible outcomes, with no predictable pattern of which outcome to expect:

1) No picture, no sound, just a green screen.
2) No picture, no sound, flashing green screen.
3) Picture and sound, but a horrible green tint to the picture
4) Picture and sound, but a horrible green tint to the message box saying my display is not HDCP compliant.

I've tried all kinds of combinations and permutations. Nothing worked. If I disconnected the HDMI input to the AVM50 in outcomes 1 and 2 above, I suddenly got sound and a blank blue screen. Seems HDMI is interfering with coaxial digital audio in????
post #440 of 42717
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Originally Posted by LEVESQUE View Post

My satellite STB is using DVI and I also have the green screen if I power it on AFTER the D2. If I power on the STB before the D2, then everything is working fine, and I can switch inputs all I want.

FerretHunter.

What settings are you using for the 79AVi and D2. Could you give us more details?

Levesque, a big BIG THANK YOU!!! I tried starting the Rogers box first, then the AVM50. I couldn't believe it when the damn thing worked. Picture looks the same as component, but I feel better. When I switch inputs, I lose the picture. But if I turn the AVM50 off and then back on, it works again. Since I don't switch inputs all that much, I'm going to keep the STB on DVI for now.

Regarding the 79AVi, here are my settings:

Under Setup Navigator, my Audio Out Settings were:
AV Reciever - Connected
5.1ch Audio Out - Not Connected
Digital Audio Out - Connected
Dolby Digital - Compatible
DTS - Compatible
96kHz Linear PCM - Compatible
MPEG - Compatible

Then under Initial Settings, Digital Audio Out
Digital Out -> On
Dolby Digital Out -> Dolby Digital
DTS Out -> DTS
Linear PCM Out -> Down Sample Off
MPEG Out -> MPEG

Inital Settings, Options
HDMI Settings: Resolution -> 720x480i
Aspect Ratio -> 16:9 Wide
Colour -> Component (12-bit)
Video Memory -> Direct
Audio -> Auto

Under Audio Settings:
Audio DRC - Off
Legat PRO - Off
Hi-Bit - Off
Virtual Surround - Off
The rest I think only applies to the analog outs.

I can't get the AVM50 to reckognize the 96/24 multi channel track from the Foreigner 4 DVD Audio disc with the above settings. It is picking it up as 2.0 channel audio, even though the 79avi shows 96/24 track coming out (though it says converted). The disc must be incorrectly authored, or it won't allow this high resolution track out through digital ports.

THe same settings do play the 48/24 track from the REM DVD-A.

I'm just going to connect analogs and be done with it. I'd have to do this for SACD anyways.

Sorry for bogging down the D2 thread with a post mostly about the 79avi.
post #441 of 42717
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FerretHunter View Post

Levesque, a big BIG THANK YOU!!! I tried starting the Rogers box first, then the AVM50. I couldn't believe it when the damn thing worked.

Good for you!

Could you post all your settings in the D2 nenu item "5. Source setup/Presets" for the 79AVi?

You should use:
-Audio In: Dig HDMI
-Auto dig: No
-HDMI 6ch map: did you try it?

But just post all your settings in that menu.
post #442 of 42717
One thing about forums in general is that they tend to have a greater number of discussions regarding negative aspects of a product as compared to positive aspects. This applies not just to this forum but other forums that discuss other products (such as cars, etc.). I suppose folks having trouble need to seek solutions to their issues, while those not having trouble are enjoying their products and don't feel a need to log their experiences in a forum.

Having said that, what I'd like to hear more from Anthem D2/50 owners regarding what positive things they have observed. Specifically, I'd like to hear about what HDMI source components (e.g. DVD players, cable boxes, PCs, etc.) that owners have that work flawlessly. So, folks with good experiences regarding HDMI source components, please speak up! Let's hear what brands of source components work well, and how much Anthem's video processing has helped. I need more encouragement to go out and get an Anthem!

Thanks!!
post #443 of 42717
FH,

I have an AVM-50 connected to a Hitachi 65SWX20b via a HDMI/DVI cable from www.BestDealCables.com . They had a special going for 50% last month. You can also buy them on Newegg

I have a Motorola 2 tuner HD DVR from Brighthouse Networks that has a DVI out that goes to the AVM-50 via a DVI/HDMI cable.

I leave my DVR on all the time (its leased so I don't care if it breaks).

I have set the Anthem video output to
a. HDMI
b. 1920x1080i/60
c. HDTV
d. Extended RGB
f. Normal

Software version is 1.01

My DVR is set to output 16:9, 1080i (this givs me the best picture quality to my eyes) and 4:3 overide is set to 480i (this eliminates black bars on SDTV)

My setup works for me with only one issue so far. If I turn the Anthem on to just listen to music and then turn the TV on to watch cable, the picture flickers.

The solution is to turn everything off and then turn the TV on,followed by the Anthem.

My normal sequence to watch cable is to power on the TV and then the Anthem. I am able to switch inputs without any flicker.
post #444 of 42717
Thread Starter 
With my D2 I'm using:

-Sony "Ruby" VPL-VW100 at 1080p over HDMI. Working like a champ with the D2. No glitches, no bugs, and just awesome PQ.

-Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD player. Working flawlessy for me. I have the "HDMI error" once and a while, but just pressing "play" 2 or 3 times on the remote easily get rid of it. HDMI to HDMI.

-Star Choice DSR530, HD PVR (satellite). DVI to HDMI. If I power it on before the D2, then everything works fine. Switching inputs, etc. If I power it on after the D2, then I have to power off and on the D2 to make it work.

-Pioneer 633 DVD recorder. Component to D2. Working like a champ.

-Pioneer 79AVi WAS working like a champ also. But I just sold it to get a Blu-Ray player soon.

I also tried with my D2:

-Oppo 971H. DVI to HDMI. Working perfectly.

-Denon 1910. DVI to HDMI. No problems.
post #445 of 42717
Levesque - thanks for the info. Since the Denon 1910 works, sounds like my Denon 3910 will probably work just fine.
post #446 of 42717
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

My quest to see a D2 or an AVM-50 live have proved to be rather futile. Well... sorry for the rant I just had to vent a little.

Obie
There aren't too many D2's at dealers yet to be seen. If you'd like to take the drive down here to West Palm area, you can view mine! I bought mine sight unseen based on the recommendations of Alain (levesque) and Stan (gostan). (I'm the friend in Florida that gostan speaks of that got my unit on Thursday). I'm having ALL of the Toshiba XA1 HDMI issues talked about here in this thread, but I believe they will all shake out soon with new firmware from Anthem and Toshiba. Meanwhile, there is plenty to see if you want to make the trip. OBTW, it needs to be in the evening since I have a pj in a non light controlled room.
post #447 of 42717
Jerry - Thanks for the very generous offer but I'm swapped for the next several weeks. I think I finally have a bead on a D2 so I may end up with one sight unseen like yourself. Hopefully I'll be posting once I have it installed in a month or so. Thanks again.
post #448 of 42717
When my source is DD, I can't get any modes other than None, or Movie THX. What am I doing wrong? I have tried to set the mode preset to vaious settings, but still have the same problem. I am waiting for the D2 upgrade to be announced , so this issue is with my D1.
Thanks for any suggestions.
post #449 of 42717
Nevermid....I found the poblem. Unexplicably, I had the rear speakers set to Off in my speaker configuration.With the setting restored to On, all the modes have re-emerged. Now I can relax. That woulda' drove me crazy all weekend!
post #450 of 42717
Does anyone know how much a D1->D2 upgrade will cost?
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