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post #5221 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

How does Anthem go about distributing new test software? Do you have to request it via email?

They send it out by email to folks who have been in touch with them (phone or email) regarding problems, and also to folks who they've built a relationship with for field testing.

Anthem, quite correctly, wants to keep track of who is getting which software so that they can draw conclusions from that as to whether a given version is causing more or less problems.
--Bob
post #5222 of 42717
I tried the HDMI output first and decided to then try the component output. Neither will output anything unless the deck is set to output 480i. The other settings for the deck output are 720to1080 and no conv. I'll check with Nick Monday. I think it must be a copy protection handshake issue.

How do I get to the D2 internally generated video? Thanks
post #5223 of 42717
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by rudolpht View Post

6 No's, 1 Yes on XA2 HDMI Audio & 11g. Levesque continues to live a physics defying charmed life There is a rev h recently out so I'll have to try it.

I don't know why 1.11g was working for me with the XA2, but 1.11h was terrible yesterday evening with my Pioneer BDP-HD1. I didn't get 1080p60 in the Pio menu anymore, and my D2 is reporting a DVI connection! So no sound and a "DVI" picture with the Pio and 1.11h, with alot of green and pink screens.

So I'm back to 1.11e for a couple of days... No more living in a physics defying charmed life for me.
post #5224 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Randall Morton View Post

How do I get to the D2 internally generated video? Thanks

Check out the video calibration for non-ISF techs link in the first post of this thread for more details.

Simply put, if you select a D2 input that has no incoming video the D2 will generate an all blue screen. If you go to the Setup menu, the D2 will generate that. If you go to the Video Source Adjust menu, and in particular its test Patterns, the D2 will generate those. All of that generated video is independent of any source device.

Get all that working first over your HDMI connection to the display and then deal with any source issues.

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I hadn't noticed that you were talking about a *D*VHS deck. If the deck is putting Macrovision on its 720p/1080i Component outputs you may not be able to use those with the D2, or if so, you may only be able to do it as "pass through" -- out the Zone 2 Component output for example where Zone 2 is set to be the UNprocessed version of the Main path Component input.

This is an unusual enough situation that you probably should discuss it with Nick. He may know of a better workaround for you.
--Bob
post #5225 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Check out the video calibration for non-ISF techs link in the first post of this thread for more details.

Simply put, if you select a D2 input that has no incoming video the D2 will generate an all blue screen. If you go to the Setup menu, the D2 will generate that. If you go to the Video Source Adjust menu, and in particular its test Patterns, the D2 will generate those. All of that generated video is independent of any source device.

Get all that working first over your HDMI connection to the display and then deal with any source issues.

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I hadn't noticed that you were talking about a *D*VHS deck. If the deck is putting Macrovision on its 720p/1080i Component outputs you may not be able to use those with the D2, or if so, you may only be able to do it as "pass through" -- out the Zone 2 Component output for example where Zone 2 is set to be the UNprocessed version of the Main path Component input.

This is an unusual enough situation that you probably should discuss it with Nick. He may know of a better workaround for you.
--Bob

I've already tested all the screens you mention. I think you are right and I will end up having to do the pass through or go directly to one of the projector inputs. I may try my 30K JVC deck and see if it does the same thing.
post #5226 of 42717
Hi all,

This afternoon, I auditioned the AVM-50 and the D1 back-to-back at my local dealer, and I thought that anyone reading this who might be trying to decide between these two components might benefit from my experience.

This was the setup:
- Simaudio Moon Orbiter DVD player
- Simaudio Moon Aurora Power Amp
- A set of Dynaudio Focus speakers
(cables were Cardas and Canare)

The AVM-50 was really very good, but the D1 was clearly superior in the above setup, with the ability to resolve more detail, provide better dynamics, and generate a bigger soundstage. At the beginning of "The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring," Galadriel's prologue was absolutely captivating through the D1. :-) It was helpful to me to be able to audition the equipment with similar components to those in my home setup.

I have a few questions that someone here might be able to answer:

One thing that I did notice about both of the processors is that they got quite warm during operation, which surprised me because they were not enclosed in a cabinet (they were very warm to the touch on the top right - power supply perhaps?). Is this normal?

I have the opportunity to purchase the D1 demo at a very good price and I was wondering if anyone has been able to get their hands on a silver faceplate for the D1/D2 (the demo is black and I would prefer silver). If so, where did you find it?

Thanks in advance,

Flash
post #5227 of 42717
Flash,
It is normal for the D1 and D2 to get quite warm over the power supply -- the side of the chassis where the power cord plugs in. The thermal engineering of the D1 and D2 take this into account, and as long as there is adequate space around them they will dissipate the heat.

It is less common to hear that the AVM-50 gets warm.

By the way, were you listening to a D1 (no HDMI and no video processing) or to a D2 (includes HDMI for audio and video and extensive video processing)? The audio is the same for both, but just curious.

I've no info on face plate swap-outs.
--Bob
post #5228 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Randall Morton View Post

I've already tested all the screens you mention. I think you are right and I will end up having to do the pass through or go directly to one of the projector inputs. I may try my 30K JVC deck and see if it does the same thing.

I believe you can also bypass the scaler using the Video Source Adjust / Scale Out menu. But I don't really know how that works with respect to the Macrovision restriction.
--Bob
post #5229 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Flash,
It is normal for the D1 and D2 to get quite warm over the power supply -- the side of the chassis where the power cord plugs in. The thermal engineering of the D1 and D2 take this into account, and as long as there is adequate space around them they will dissipate the heat.

It is less common to hear that the AVM-50 gets warm.

By the way, were you listening to a D1 (no HDMI and no video processing) or to a D2 (includes HDMI for audio and video and extensive video processing)? The audio is the same for both, but just curious.

I've no info on face plate swap-outs.
--Bob

Thanks for the info on heat dissipation with these units. I was listening to a D1 connected to the Orbiter via S/PDIF connection. I was really surprised at just how big the difference was in sound quality between the AVM-50 and the D1. Don't get me wrong -- the AVM-50 sounded wonderful, but the D1 was notably better. I guess I know which one I am going to buy. I'm quite comfortable buying a D1 as I don't need D2 video processing right now and I can always upgrade to a D1-HD later on.

Flash
post #5230 of 42717
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Originally Posted by lazarus28 View Post

I don't suppose that anybody's found a workaround for the newly introduced HDMI sound bug yet, have they? After my update yesterday, my ability to sync the XA2 and D2 has gone kaputski. Sometimes the video will sync, but never the audio. The D2 acts like it is getting no sound. Auto Dig is set 'no' and the input is set for HDMI as well.

Let's make that 7:1
post #5231 of 42717
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Originally Posted by chas View Post

I can't get the Apple TV to sync via HDMI--I see a momentary flash of video, followed by a black screen. I've tried with and without the HDMI repeater setting in the set-up menu. It works fine via component and optical. I'm using software version 1.11d. No problems with other components (SA 8300HD, Tosh HD DVD, PS3, Marantz 7600) Any suggestions? Thanks.

C.

Not saying this is a good way, but have you tried component. I hooped up Apple TV on my non-Anthem family room via components & I'm pretty amazed by this little box.
post #5232 of 42717
Drove 1.5 hours each way to the nearest dealer (out of state! ) to see a D2. Of course I had to have it. I knew I'd buy it if I went, lol. The B&M dealer called and was told about 3 week wait for shipping. Man, I can't wait!
post #5233 of 42717
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Originally Posted by drsimnal View Post

Drove 1.5 hours each way to the nearest dealer (out of state! ) to see a D2. Of course I had to have it. I knew I'd buy it if I went, lol. The B&M dealer called and was told about 3 week wait for shipping. Man, I can't wait!

It's traditional to have to suffer for your art.

(grin!)

And welcome to the club!
--Bob
post #5234 of 42717
I think e is the magic code here. Both PS3 blu-ray and XA2 are running HDMI uncompressed 5.1 with no issue. Pure bliss!!! Even the HD cable is running fine in 1080i.
post #5235 of 42717
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Originally Posted by drsimnal View Post

Drove 1.5 hours each way to the nearest dealer (out of state! ) to see a D2. Of course I had to have it. I knew I'd buy it if I went, lol. The B&M dealer called and was told about 3 week wait for shipping. Man, I can't wait!

I almost wish my dealer was that far away. I can't stay out of the damn place. When I got the D2 about 2 weeks now, I swore my Rotel 1095 would be fine and I could wait until I started looking for a new amp. Well of course yesterday on the way home from work I stooped by to pick up the receipt for my XA2 (5 free HD-DVD's). I left with the receipt I went to pick up and a lot less money as I ordered a P5. Only another month or so before the new Paradigm Signatures are out so I've got very little time to build up some more cash. Beryllium will never sound better.
post #5236 of 42717
I drove 2 hrs to Montreal from the US to get it!!!!It is worth it.
post #5237 of 42717
What's the price in Canada? Was it cheaper there?
post #5238 of 42717
What music mode do you all listen to CD's on with the Anthem D2/AVM? I currently listened to 2-channel, but I have recently rounded out my system with quality side speakers, and LCR's. My rears are still in-walls (lesser quality) and would prefer to use them "less", or not at all, when it comes to music. Just curious. Thanks!
post #5239 of 42717
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Originally Posted by aus View Post

What's the price in Canada? Was it cheaper there?

No it is about the same as the US but that is the nearest big town where I could get them.Only problem every time it needs service I have to drag it thru customs fortunately it is only a small border with no wait.
post #5240 of 42717
More problems.

Friday everything was working well, small fan on the D2 kept even the PS3 input rock solid. Turned it on Saturday evening to watch Casino Royale on BD (didn't touch *anything* since Friday) and the HDMI1 input was dead. Really dead. Swapped cables to verify that all sources worked fine into the other 3 HDMI inputs and all sources would not work into the HDMI1 input (swapping cables as well). Power cycling didn't help. Status shows no video input, no audio input. Changed the PS3 to HDMI4 (unused until then) and watched the movie.

Fired it up again this morning, no change. Saved settings with the settings and livevideosettings editors, reinstalled 1.11g firmware, did a Reload Factory Defaults and HDMI1 came back. (I guess I should have done one of those at a time.)

Restored settings, still OK. Restored video settings and lost all video except the mini-OSD at the bottom of the screen. Reloaded factory defaults again, restored settings, manually input my video settings (just crop settings for the 2.35 overlays). Seems to be working well now.

One strange thing, though, since the restore: The display (both OSD and front panel) where it is supposed to show the audio input format now shows "Zzznn" where nn is a number in the high teens thru twenties. Zzz is literally 3 z's.

I'll play with it some more (maybe go thru the whole firmware/factory settings cycle again) to see if I can get rid of the Zzznn's.
post #5241 of 42717
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Originally Posted by ddimberio View Post

What music mode do you all listen to CD's on with the Anthem D2/AVM? I currently listened to 2-channel, but I have recently rounded out my system with quality side speakers, and LCR's. My rears are still in-walls (lesser quality) and would prefer to use them "less", or not at all, when it comes to music. Just curious. Thanks!

It's all personal preference. There's no "right" way.

I happen to prefer Anthem-Logic Music. It's a non-aggressive surround mode (not much sent to the surround speakers) which also doesn't use the center channel speaker to keep from disturbing the front sound stage.

If I'm moving around the room and don't want to be distracted when I'm too close to a surround speaker, I just use Stereo.

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Remember you can set up a MUSIC speaker configuration -- without your rear speakers for example -- and set any input to use that in preference to the normal CINEMA config.
--Bob
post #5242 of 42717
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Originally Posted by 3no View Post

More problems.

Friday everything was working well, small fan on the D2 kept even the PS3 input rock solid. Turned it on Saturday evening to watch Casino Royale on BD (didn't touch *anything* since Friday) and the HDMI1 input was dead. Really dead. Swapped cables to verify that all sources worked fine into the other 3 HDMI inputs and all sources would not work into the HDMI1 input (swapping cables as well). Power cycling didn't help. Status shows no video input, no audio input. Changed the PS3 to HDMI4 (unused until then) and watched the movie.

Fired it up again this morning, no change. Saved settings with the settings and livevideosettings editors, reinstalled 1.11g firmware, did a Reload Factory Defaults and HDMI1 came back. (I guess I should have done one of those at a time.)

Restored settings, still OK. Restored video settings and lost all video except the mini-OSD at the bottom of the screen. Reloaded factory defaults again, restored settings, manually input my video settings (just crop settings for the 2.35 overlays). Seems to be working well now.

One strange thing, though, since the restore: The display (both OSD and front panel) where it is supposed to show the audio input format now shows "Zzznn" where nn is a number in the high teens thru twenties. Zzz is literally 3 z's.

I'll play with it some more (maybe go thru the whole firmware/factory settings cycle again) to see if I can get rid of the Zzznn's.

The "Zzznn" display means the "Sleep Timer" is active. See section 4.12 of the owner's manual.

If you had accidentally set the Sleep Timer while watching on HDMI1, and the unit powered off because of that, it is possible that that's what screwed up HDMI1 for you -- although of course it is not supposed to do that.

I don't recall what reloading Factory Defaults is supposed to do with respect to the Timers.

I believe saving and restoring user settings is supposed to maintain the various on/off time of day timers, but I'd be surprised if it also maintained the sleep timer.
--Bob
post #5243 of 42717
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Originally Posted by 3no View Post

More problems.

One strange thing, though, since the restore: The display (both OSD and front panel) where it is supposed to show the audio input format now shows "Zzznn" where nn is a number in the high teens thru twenties. Zzz is literally 3 z's.

I'll play with it some more (maybe go thru the whole firmware/factory settings cycle again) to see if I can get rid of the Zzznn's.

Zzznn is the sleep timer countdown where nn indicates the number of minutes remaining before the unit will turn off. Press the sleep button on your remote repeatedly until you see MAIN SLEEP MODE Disabled.

Jim
post #5244 of 42717
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The "Zzznn" display means the "Sleep Timer" is active. See section 4.12 of the owner's manual.

If you had accidentally set the Sleep Timer while watching on HDMI1, and the unit powered off because of that, it is possible that that's what screwed up HDMI1 for you -- although of course it is not supposed to do that.

I don't recall what reloading Factory Defaults is supposed to do with respect to the Timers.

I believe saving and restoring user settings is supposed to maintain the various on/off time of day timers, but I'd be surprised if it also maintained the sleep timer.
--Bob

Thanks, Bob. The Zzznn is gone. I did accidentally push the sleep button on the remote, while fumbling for the up arrow in the dark. I distinctly recall hitting it as I briefly thought at the time "I wonder what that button is/did". That occurred today, after the reload factory defaults. As the HDMI1 lockup occured last night, and the Zzznn display only showed up today after the reload factory defaults had restored HDMI1 functionality, the sleep timer was not the cause of the lockup.

I'm going to lay this one on the PS3 HDMI issue set, and trust that when Anthem (or Sony) fix the basic problem they will pick up this one with it.
post #5245 of 42717
Here's my initial 11h testing. BDP works fine (but I'm doing 1080p/60 not 24). Blue screen on XA-2. Bukpas. Nada. Ziltch.
post #5246 of 42717
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by rudolpht View Post

Here's my initial 11h testing. BDP works fine (but I'm doing 1080p/60 not 24).

Are you doing this intentionnally? With 1.11h, the BDP-HD1 didn't work at all for me, not even in 1080p60. The D2 is reporting: DVI connection, 1080p (no p24 or p60, just 1080p), no sound input. And the Pioneer BDP doesn't even have "1080p60" or "Direct" choices anymore when I press Output format on the remote... only "1080p".
post #5247 of 42717
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Originally Posted by LEVESQUE View Post

Are you doing this intentionnally? With 1.11h, the BDP-HD1 didn't work at all for me, not even in 1080p60. The D2 is reporting: DVI connection, 1080p (no p24 or p60, just 1080p), no sound input. And the Pioneer BDP doesn't even have "1080p60" or "Direct" choices anymore when I press Output format on the remote... only "1080p".

It sounds like your back and forth FW switching is LEAVING
CRAP behind and now cleaning everything up between FW
installs.
post #5248 of 42717
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

It sounds like your back and forth FW switching is LEAVING
CRAP behind and now cleaning everything up between FW
installs.

I know. I was just kidding, since Rudolpht is always saying I'm the only one with 1.11g and HD-XA2 working together.

I will try 1.11h later today again with a cleaner install.
post #5249 of 42717
What are the proper audio settings for a PS3 connected to the AVM-50? I went and setup the audio manually and checked all 2 channel and 5.1 channel outputs up to and including 192kHz ( I have a 5.1 setup). I also selected DTS and Dolby Digital.

When I played back a SACD disc - my Anthem said that it was receiving and outputting 6 channels at 48Khz - but the sound was all muffled. That didn't make me feel good considering the PS3 warns you that you can damage your speakers if you make the wrong selections. I then set the PS3 audio to Automatic and only sampling rates up to 96khz were available. When I played back the same disc it worked fine, but the sampling rate was now 88.2 KHz. I thought most SACDs were recorded at 96kHz or 48kHz.

I also thought that the AVM-50 was compatible with 192 KHz for Blu Ray and HD DVD.

Any help understanding the PS3 audio settings for the AVM-50 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
post #5250 of 42717
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Originally Posted by LEVESQUE View Post

Are you doing this intentionnally? With 1.11h, the BDP-HD1 didn't work at all for me, not even in 1080p60. The D2 is reporting: DVI connection, 1080p (no p24 or p60, just 1080p), no sound input. And the Pioneer BDP doesn't even have "1080p60" or "Direct" choices anymore when I press Output format on the remote... only "1080p".

I think we are in some bizzaro world alternate dimension. NOt only did it work fine but it looked like SD upscaling picture improved

Well I'm back to 11e so I can get the XA2 HDMI audio. (The alternate dimension from when you can get it in 11g )
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