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post #331 of 9216
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Regarding the pre, I just reveived the Motiva DMC-1 yesterday and will be setting it up today. It will be connected to my Sunfire CG 400/5 and replaces a Denon AVR. I have GR60's, 20's and 10's and a CP Gold in-wall (as center channel).

Outlaw has a nice unit at a good price. I also considered Anthem and Sunfire TG IV.

Let me know how that Motiva works out.
post #332 of 9216
i checked out magnolia hifi today to listen to some monitor audios

specifically the RS6 and bronze B4

WOW!!!

i thought the KEF IQ7 sounded pretty nice, but the RS6 are DEFINITELY worth the $100 more, and the finish on them is amazing.

Seriously i listened to some paradigm studio 20s, and they were a joke compared to the RS6! i cant believe paradigm has so many followers when british companies are still making incredible speakers. I would get burned at the stake for this if i posted it in the paradigm thread, but you have to spend at least 30-40% more on a paradigm speaker to get near the same quality as a monitor audio.

also, the bronze series is on sale at magnolia (which is surprising considering they arent "supposed" to be lowered)

$400/pr for the B4, $250/pr for the B2, you can almost get a whole 5.1 for the price of RS6, which is making me lean towards the bronze. However the RS6 were still just incredible to me.
post #333 of 9216
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Originally Posted by gotchaforce View Post

i checked out magnolia hifi today to listen to some monitor audios

specifically the RS6 and bronze B4

WOW!!!

$400/pr for the B4, $250/pr for the B2, you can almost get a whole 5.1 for the price of RS6, which is making me lean towards the bronze. However the RS6 were still just incredible to me.

I was thinking of the same thing going for the 5.1 in Bronze, but when I heard the RS6s. There was no competition. I now have a pair of RS6's. My advice for what it's worth go for the RS6's. I can here small details in the music and movies I could not hear with the Bronze.
post #334 of 9216
Thread Starter 
Paradigm is a hype product. They have a strong "marketing" presence and is why they have a big following. Generally the companies that spend more on marketing, spend less on developing decent products. Definitive Marketing, I mean, Technology, is another prime example of this, as is B&W and Wilson Audio.

MA makes better drivers, better cabinets, better speakers period. I am glad that you gave them a shot. FYI the RS6 is actually a better speaker than the RS8. For a 1000/pair it is a no brainer!

The GS series gets even better.
post #335 of 9216
the thing is my budget is about $1200, the damn silver RS6 will suck that all up LOL

the $600 jump from the BS4 to the RS6 is SO huge! im contemplating it, but its incredibly difficult

still though, the very nice looking rosewood finish on the silvers is slowwwwly dragging me towards them

also, i dont have an amp, and a lot of you say the RS6 really open up with an amp. I heard the RS6 WITHOUT an amp at magnolia (a $1000 denon receiver with 110w per channel was powering them), and it still sounded great.

I really dont know what to do
post #336 of 9216
Thread Starter 
If you must go 5.1, then consider the RS1's and add a sub.

There is a huge performance jump from Bronze to Silver RS, and a small jump from Silver RS to GS. This is based on heavy listening as I have the whole line in our showroom.

A good set of stereo speakers will ALWAYS make your happier than a set of "mediocre" 5.1 speakers. I am using the word mediocre for comparative purposes of course.
post #337 of 9216
i dont need to go 5.1, but i would like 3.1 so i can have a center, and the center is like $500 or something right?? that would definitely blow my budget away.

and theres the whole thing if my onkyo tx-sr603 with 95w per channel is really enough to power the silver rs6.
post #338 of 9216
Thread Starter 
The RS6's have a relatively high voltage sensitivty so your onkyo will make them play loud enough for you. Theres really no need for a center channel. Toe-in the speakers towards your listening position as to create the strongest center image, and set your receiver with no center channel in the setup menu. The receiver will reroute all the center channel information to the front left and right channels. Or simply set your receiver to play stereo, even when receiving a 5.1 signal. Your receiver will take care of everything.

Once you have the money for the center and surrounds then finish her up.
post #339 of 9216
man now i know why i hate this forum, it ALWAYS ends up in making me spend more money!

also, what kind of sub would you pair up with these speakers??? i was planning on getting an H100 acoustec with the bronze 5.1 setup... but i dont think the h100 acoustec is in the same class as the silver RS6
post #340 of 9216
I am powering my RS6's with a Denon 2802 receiver 95 watts per channel and I have set it to stereo. They are well worth the extra money. I agree with Audio Architect quote" A good set of stereo speakers will ALWAYS make your happier than a set of "mediocre" 5.1 speakers."
post #341 of 9216
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Originally Posted by slybasil View Post

Let me know how that Motiva works out.


I hate to sound like one of the "I just got XYZ product and it is incredible!" folks but after just the weekend of listening, I am amazed at the difference in sound quality with the DMC-1 vs my Denon AVR. I suppose it is possible that any good pre would have given similar results but I was not expecting the SQ delta that I am experiencing.

If you like the look (and I do) of the DMC-1 and with the included HDMI switch, 30 day return policy and at it's current price, this is one nice piece of audio gear.
post #342 of 9216
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Originally Posted by gotchaforce View Post

the thing is my budget is about $1200, the damn silver RS6 will suck that all up LOL

the $600 jump from the BS4 to the RS6 is SO huge! im contemplating it, but its incredibly difficult

still though, the very nice looking rosewood finish on the silvers is slowwwwly dragging me towards them

also, i dont have an amp, and a lot of you say the RS6 really open up with an amp. I heard the RS6 WITHOUT an amp at magnolia (a $1000 denon receiver with 110w per channel was powering them), and it still sounded great.

I really dont know what to do

I used a 75 wpc reciever for RS-8's, which was more than enough , It wasn't until I added a pair of GR-20's that I felt I needed more.
E-Bay may be a good place to check as Saturday Audio Exchange does sell there. What they sell is discontinued MA lines, R series and GR series. They don't look as apealing as the new models.( They come with full factory warranty.)
As for build quality, the MA's are hard to beat . Some speaker manufacture put all there effort into the exsterior and skimp on the interiors. Once looking inside a Monitor Audio speaker you realize they put the same effort inside and out.
post #343 of 9216
i'm about to go audition the RS6, after all the rave reviews. about a year ago, i listened to the GR10 with high expectations, and i was put off by the mid-bass hump. this isn't a unique hump -- almost all speakers (especially monitors) in this price range seem to have it -- but it really drives me nuts.

looking at the Stereophile measurements (below), it looks like the ubiquitous and dreaded hump is there. i'd be putting them in a rather small room, 11.5 x 16.5 against the long wall, with an area rug and a big plush sectional... anyone think the hump will be a problem? would plugging the rear port mitigate it at all?

oh... another question about the FR graph... the nasty-looking spike up around 20khz. of course i won't be able to hear that, but my 4-year-old might... and i don't want to damage his hearing. should a 15dB peak like that concern me?

like i said, i'll be giving them a long listen myself, but i just wanted to get a little feedback here. am i obsessing too much over the measurements?

post #344 of 9216
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Originally Posted by gotchaforce View Post

the thing is my budget is about $1200, the damn silver RS6 will suck that all up LOL


I believe the MSRP for the RS6's is $999. But you should be able to get a pretty healthy discount ffrom even an authorized dealer. If you went with the now-closeout Silver S6's they could be had for 40% off. And 33% off the Siver center SLCR. And that's from an authorized dealer - Saturday Audio.
Mike
post #345 of 9216
AudioArchitect,

You say S6 is actually a better speaker than S8. Mind expanding on that a little?
post #346 of 9216
ifrt
The Gr/s20 are going to sell $1800-3000. Saturday Audio Exchange has last years' beech color S8 for $749 -50%
I can't spend your money so you need to make that discission. I'm old school, I find the speakers I like first, then add my components around them. I believe speakers are your most inportant item, because that is what you hear. So spending more on speakers is my priority.
I'm using a 1999 Denon AVR5700 @ 140w/ch. For an all in one, I like Denon receivers, good value/$$
I kind-of got a feel for your budget so I'll mention this, some people may freak out, but Sony's ES series was good too 5 yr warranty. Just make sure you get a high current amp!!! Wattage isn't for loudness, it's for flatter response curve during high and low differences in volume and frequency changes. That is why I say buy your speakers first, match amp/power to speaker characteristics (and your room)
post #347 of 9216
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Originally Posted by BuddF View Post

AudioArchitect,

You say S6 is actually a better speaker than S8. Mind expanding on that a little?

I am speaking in terms of the RS6 of course. From my personal listening the RS6 is much more coherent than the RS8. The RS8 has somewhat disjointed bass that sounds a little boomy compared to the RS6. This obscures the imaging capability of the RS8.

Unless you are willing to jump into the GS line, the RS6 is the best value. In fact its about the best 1000 you can spend on a pair of speakers. I would only recommend the RS8 if you have a larger room.
post #348 of 9216
Hi All,

Recently purchased some Monitor Audio B2's, B1's and B-center for my bonus room. I have a Denon 1906 powering them. For stereo, sound really nice, but for dvd's, I really have to turn up the volume vs the old speakers I had. They sound tight and detailed, but seem like they need more power to really bring out their personality??

I was curious what a/v receiver's you use and why you chose that particular brand/model for use with your Bronze's?

Thanks
post #349 of 9216
just got word that the eta for GSW-12 sub will be pushed backed until "1st quarter of 2007". I guess that means they might come out between January and April. Do not think I am going to wait. Does any one have suggestion for good sub. Verlodyne DD-12 was an option but not to sure I am looking to spend 3k. Not to mention the set up procedure. I will be using Gs 60 speakers and matching surronds. Anyone using MA's FB212? Might be able to get a deal on one but would rather go for better sound then to save now regret later.
post #350 of 9216
Definitve Super cube works great with my GR10s..
post #351 of 9216
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Originally Posted by Mike N Ike View Post

I believe the MSRP for the RS6's is $999. But you should be able to get a pretty healthy discount ffrom even an authorized dealer. If you went with the now-closeout Silver S6's they could be had for 40% off. And 33% off the Siver center SLCR. And that's from an authorized dealer - Saturday Audio.
Mike

hopefully magnolia can give me $150-$200 off the RS6, and then $100 off of the RSLCR

hey guys should i get an ADCOM 5400 amp to drive the two RS6 in the front??? i can get one for around $250 locally, it has 200 watts per channel, so it should make the RS6 sound way better right? I can also get a PA5800 w/ 5x80w@8ohms for the same price, which is pretty good since harman kardon "understates" their wattage, correct?


(i am 100% clueless when it comes to amps.. pre amps.. everything with amps!)
post #352 of 9216
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Originally Posted by slybasil View Post

just got word that the eta for GSW-12 sub will be pushed backed until "1st quarter of 2007". I guess that means they might come out between January and April. Do not think I am going to wait. Does any one have suggestion for good sub. Verlodyne DD-12 was an option but not to sure I am looking to spend 3k. Not to mention the set up procedure. I will be using Gs 60 speakers and matching surronds. Anyone using MA's FB212? Might be able to get a deal on one but would rather go for better sound then to save now regret later.

The DD12 retails for 2500, if you find someone selling it for 3K then slap them
The DD10 retails for 2000. This will work MORE than fine in all but the very largest rooms.

The GSW will be a great subwoofer, but the DD still has the room correction and eq feature, as well as a servo-control. Its a world class subwoofer and difficult to beat especially for the price.
post #353 of 9216
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Originally Posted by AudioArchitect View Post

The DD12 retails for 2500, if you find someone selling it for 3K then slap them
The DD10 retails for 2000. This will work MORE than fine in all but the very largest rooms.

The GSW will be a great subwoofer, but the DD still has the room correction and eq feature, as well as a servo-control. Its a world class subwoofer and difficult to beat especially for the price.


Whats up with MA? How come the delays in getting the GSW out? I mean we are talking 5-8months. Then it "might" be available. Have you heard it play? If so how does it compare to other subs? I would like to get the system set up so I am open to other brands other then MA or velodyne that would go with my system.
post #354 of 9216
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Originally Posted by egilschmidt View Post

I am now the proud owner of a pair Walnut RS6's. They are connected to a Denon 2802 amp using IXOS Ixos XHS403 cabling. I used to have the BOSE Accoustimass 15 set (which have now been sold :>). The hifi stored loaned me a pair of Mission M33i until the AM where delivered. I felt the Bose were better then the Missions and now finally I am in Heaven with the Monitor Audio RS6's. Next step is to buy the remaining speakers and sub for the full HT sound. I am looking forward to many fine hours of listening to music and watching movies.
This is a great thread keep up the good work.

Any chance you'd be able to post a couple of pics of your walnut RS6s? I've been seriously thinking about those, but I've never seen the finish in person. There are a few pics on the mafocus website, but seeing them in a real life surrounding would be great.
post #355 of 9216
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Originally Posted by datbeme View Post

Any chance you'd be able to post a couple of pics of your walnut RS6s? I've been seriously thinking about those, but I've never seen the finish in person. There are a few pics on the mafocus website, but seeing them in a real life surrounding would be great.

i just bought some bronze B4s and RS6s for comparitive listening ( ) ill have pics for you tonight most likely

edit: oops i just realized i have rosenut haha

o well ill take pics anyways
post #356 of 9216
So, I've been listening my new RS8s for about five days now and have noticed what some people call "listener fatigue". After about 30-45 minutes of listening, I want to go do something else because I seem to start getting a headache.

I really don't know anything about the science of the audio industry, but I think it might have something to do with the 15dB peak just below 20kHz shown in the Stereophile graph of nearfield response. (shown in one post above)

Is there something to be done about this? I was thinking about trying to use a good receiver and flatten that peak with the equalizer. Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

I really the sound of the speakers and would like to keep them....... but if they continue to cause this listener fatigue, I will most likely return them.
post #357 of 9216
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by slybasil View Post

Whats up with MA? How come the delays in getting the GSW out? I mean we are talking 5-8months. Then it "might" be available. Have you heard it play? If so how does it compare to other subs? I would like to get the system set up so I am open to other brands other then MA or velodyne that would go with my system.

The GSW is taking time because of specs that are subject to change in the design. I dont know the exact specifics but I believe it had something to do with the production of the amplifiers in the subs. Some companies rush their products to market, and then deal with repairs and defects. Other companies, like Monitor Audio, get it right the first time. This is better for brand reputation in the end.

It was running at CES in the kevro suite, and it looked and sounded great. Price will be very competitive.

You might consider JL Audio's new subwoofer line. Features an room EQ like the Velodyne, but the motor structure of the subwoofer driver is superior to anything else out there. Based on the JL car audio W7 driver. Dealers are few and far between as its a brand new line.
post #358 of 9216
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Originally Posted by ifrt431 View Post

So, I've been listening my new RS8s for about five days now and have noticed what some people call "listener fatigue". After about 30-45 minutes of listening, I want to go do something else because I seem to start getting a headache.

I really don't know anything about the science of the audio industry, but I think it might have something to do with the 15dB peak just below 20kHz shown in the Stereophile graph of nearfield response. (shown in one post above)

Do you have hard flooring or carpet?
post #359 of 9216
Thread Starter 
Also you might consider the GS10 bookshelfs. The GS tweeter, which has been redesigned, is smoother and less fatiguing than the rest.
post #360 of 9216
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Originally Posted by ifrt431 View Post

So, I've been listening my new RS8s for about five days now and have noticed what some people call "listener fatigue". After about 30-45 minutes of listening, I want to go do something else because I seem to start getting a headache.

I really don't know anything about the science of the audio industry, but I think it might have something to do with the 15dB peak just below 20kHz shown in the Stereophile graph of nearfield response. (shown in one post above)

Is there something to be done about this? I was thinking about trying to use a good receiver and flatten that peak with the equalizer. Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

I really the sound of the speakers and would like to keep them....... but if they continue to cause this listener fatigue, I will most likely return them.

What reciever/prossesor are you running.
I use a HK 635 and a parasound 1205 A amp with no adverse effects.
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