Monitor Audio Owners Thread - Page 183

I got creative and used some small flat panel TV mounts.



You don't need to drill into the speaker, but you do need to drill some new holes in the wall portion of the bracket that come with the speaker.







You might also be able to get these to work with some mods to the wall bracket.



http://www.axiomaudio.com/fullmetalbracket.html

Technically you shouldn't need to mount the surround/rear speakers at an angle as they according to the Dolby/DTS spec should be in ear level height.

Actually the Dolby spec is 2-3 feet above seated ear level to minimize speaker localization. Whether or not you want to angle them down to get better treble response is a matter of preference.

so i hooked up my rs6s and rslcr center to my onkyo 805 and they sound phenominal but i think they could sound better so my i am thinking about adding an amp ...i have looked at some 2 channels...would that be fine or should i amplify the whole entire front 3? thanks

Sorry I had to lol at this. Its a sickness, I know!

You could give them a few weeks to break in before you decide whether to upgrade the amp, I know my RS8s took a few weeks to break-in properly and when they did I was pretty happy with the sound ... I'd still like to get a better amp though!

Look at their interactive demo, it say "just above ear level", not to mention they are using speakers on stands in their sample setups.

The idea to hide the surround speakers near the ceiling must originate from the Dolby Surround era where you hardly had any surround sound to start with.

Hifi,

Were you perhaps thinking of the THX spec?

Mike

I think they are the same, but now that I look at the Dolby site, they don't specify the height, but do say in general terms that the surrounds should be above seated ear height.

But hey, if someone likes 'em at ear level, that's cool too. What ever sounds good is the way to go.

PS - I place mine high because I have to place them on the back wall and I'm only 3 feet from that wall. Any lower and they are distracting. And because they are somewhat high in my set-up a little tilt helps with the high treble / detail from the rears.

Why not invest in some room treatments? Those are the cheapest way to improve sound.

Hi all,

got a little question about mixing the various lines. I am currently planing to update my supermarket 5.1. system. I have heard a GS set up at a friends house and I love it.

Now my wife would not allow me GS10 or the GSFX in the rear because of their size. We found a compromise with the Radius HD 90 or 180.

For the centre i got another problem. We have bought a new cabinet only 6 month ago, and there is no way we will be replacing this. The only centre fitting in there is the Radius HD250.... but this one would fit as if it was made for it.

Now looking at the HD270s, I just find them too small and when I got an audition, I did not really like the Sound for Hifi too much. I would therefore rather go for the GS10, GS20 or even GS60. (approved by wife )

Would this be something which would work as a set up, or do you see problems with mixing these two different speaker lines ? any other suggestions ?

My room is about 3.5 m to 5m. I can add pictures if needed. Is this room too small for the GS60 ?

What amp would you recommend for this set up ? Currently I am looking at the Yamaha Z7, Arcam 350 and NAD785. I know that a lot of people here are using MF and MI, but I was not able to find them here in the UK.

thanks for the help

Matching the surrounds is not so important, but your center channel should be part of the same line. Otherwise you will notice a change in sound quality across the front of the sound stage. I expect there would be a HUGE difference in timbre between a Radius and GS center.

Hello Guys, my name is Fernando and I am from Brazil.

I am a Monitor Audio Owner and a very big fan of this brand. My current set-up contains a pair of RS6 and the center Silver speaker.

I think that the weak point comes from my subwoofers, a KEF 2500 model. It’s not a bad speaker, far from that, but I It doesn’t shake my room enough. So I am looking for a powerful subwoofer that also has a great bass quality.

As an MA owner, I am thinking about sticking to the brand and order a RSW-12 model. But the problem is that I never listened to this model, and the Brazilian dealer doesn’t have it in stock for a “test drive”.

I could buy it in total blindness, or order the SVS PB10. This particular model pleased me a lot, and a local dealer could deliver it in just 24 hours.

I would appreciate if anyone who has listened to both models could help with my decision.

Thanks!

Fernando.Get the SVS,It will smoke the MA sub.Not even close.My SVS was by far the best improvement I ever made to my sound.If you can get the biggest one you can afford'Or save a littel,I use rs6 in my 2 channel room now.Great speakers'But SVS does subs better than most.You get more for your money with them.

I would say go for the SVS, MA aren't known for their Subwoofer performance. I will order the SVS PB13 myself next week.

1. Instead of using a Radius speaker as the center, I'd probably rather just run a phantom center (i.e. no center speaker at all).

2. Your room isn't too small for the GS60. You probably wouldn't have any problems running the GS10 + a subwoofer either. It just depends if the dedicated midrange / extra bass of the GS60 is worth it to you.

3. Any of the three receivers will work just fine. A lot of people love Arcam and they make some of the best receivers out there. I'd probably get the NAD because of the Audyssey MultEQ XT.

SVS! I thought about getting the MA sub at the time I got my RSlcr, RS6, RSfx ans RS1 but they were out of stock and would have to wait. So I ended up getting the SVS PB12/2 Ultra. I don't think I will ever need another sub.

Meagol -

Vatange is right on the money. Though I would like to see your TV console to see if you can find a way to get the GSLCR into the system. It's a great center speaker.

As others have already stated, the MA subs are not the best for producing the lowest bass, so my vote goes for the SVS as well.

Thank you Guys!!

I made my decision. It will be SVS!

Just check the price I got here: US$ 1299 for the SVS PB10 , can you believe it?

My next decision is to buy it locally or; fly to USA, make some party in Miami Beach and bring back with me a PB10 unit for US$ 449. Both options will cost me about US$ 1299.

Anyway, thanks again!

Would you then say I should rather go for the full Radius HD line ? Even if the GS Front speakers are better ?

Very interesting, I thought that the centre speaker was the most important speaker in a front set up.I never thought about not using one at all.

I actually made a picture, but I was not able to upload it... I will try further...

Putting the centre speaker right next to the tv and more the left speaker to the very left might be one solution.
or finding a very high stand and putting it behind the tv on the cabinet...

One option that works in many cases is to have a small shelf / riser made by a woodworker that you would sit the TV on. The center speaker would sit on top of your console under the raise TV. You could stain / paint the shelf to match the finish of the console. It's a small job that shouldnt cost much.

Something like this, but made all of wood and to a style that matches your console:

That is a very good idea... I should be able to get something like this done.

thanks a lot

Cheers,

I am looking at the GS10 and the Paradigm studio 20s. Which are better speakers in terms of clarity and overall?

Husker own the 10's,auditioned the 20's and IMO it's no contest but again you asking in this thread your gonna get biased opinions

The center channel is indeed a very important speaker.

1. When you run no center speaker, the receiver will split the sounds equally between the left and right channels. Therefore, as long as you are sitting in the center or close to the center of the two speakers, you will get a solid central image and the content that ordinarily would go to the center will appear to come from the center of the screen anyway.

2. If you have Gold series speakers, the left and right speakers producing the "phantom center" image will probably sound better than using the Golds for L and R, and a Radius for the Center. "Better" is a subjective term, but at the very least, you will have an objectively more coherent front sound stage.

3. Given the choice of 3 Radius speakers up front or two Gold speakers, I'd rather have two Golds and give up having a center. This is a personal decision though. To me, the added resolution of the Golds outweighs the disadvantage of not having a center. On that note....

4. Not having a center has its disadvantages. For one, those sitting way off center will not hear the dialog coming directly from the center of the screen if that is called for by the soundtrack.

5. I like hifisponge's idea for making more room, if you can manage it.

6. Not running a center speaker, to me, is better than putting the center speaker to the left or right of the television. This is because dialog (and other sounds) that should appear to be coming from the center of the screen will sound displaced.

Anyway, if you cannot tell, I do not run a center speaker in my living room due to space problems!

Thanks all, you guys have been a great help !!!!

hey Tim ,just curious, have you had the opportunity to play with Anthem gear (surround processors)? Was checking out one of these AVM-50V's, they look promising.......
http://www.anthemav.com/NewSitev2.0/.../AVM50v_DS.pdf

I currently am running GS10's with no centre channel, but a GSLCR is on its way. The GS10s do a decent job of phantoming a centre and even when you are off centre they work. I would definitely not use a Radius centre with the GS10s nor would I move down to the Radius line for a centre. Have you ever thought of mounting a centre above your TV? There's a mount out there that does that.

http://www.electronicsforless.ca/sta...-mount-85.html