Monitor Audio Owners Thread - Page 232

Originally Posted by holt7153

Greetings-new RS6 owner here (should arrive tomorrow). I plan to use these for 2-channel music ONLY in a small room connected to a Pio 1019. Do you recommend adding a sub or will the bass from the RS6s be adequate? Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by grey9hound

My room is only 11 x 15 and open on one side . For me, i go subless for two channel music ,and i think they are very good that way.

Originally Posted by grey9hound

My room is only 11 x 15 and open on one side . For me, i go subless for two channel music ,and i think they are very good that way.

Originally Posted by grey9hound

Sorry, i did forget to mention that i am bi-amping them with Emotiva
LPA-1 Amp and they are only about 12 inches or so away from the wall behind them , which re-inforces the bass , i do believe.

Originally Posted by holt7153

OK, thanks. Bi-amping is generally preferred over bi-wiring, correct?

Originally Posted by dc_pilgrim

I have a pair of the bronze in walls (CPW BR) that I picked up on e-bay. I intend to get a third for matched LCRs (and an AT screen). However, I just noticed a gold in wall (CPW is available for a reasonable price (same price as a single bronze cpw). Is it worth considering getting the CPW GS as a center, or should I stick with a matched set?

The brochure says they aren't timbred match, but I am not sure if a superior speaker for the center is worth the trade off. Any thoughts? Would be only used for HT/Movies.

Originally Posted by Snyper886

Hi Everyone,

So nice to see an active MA thread here and read about everyone's experiences with these products. I'm going to jump right in here and ask for some advice:

My current set up consits of GS10's as fronts, RSCLR for center and RS1 for rears. Recently ditched a Velodyne SPL-1200 II which was used for HT. Receiver is a Pioneer Elite SC-05 with front pre-out to a Prima Luna Prologue Two amp. Source is the usual PVR, HTPC and Oppo BDP-83 (analog out to external amp for CDs). This is all in a condo with decent insulation between floors and suites, but I sold the sub because it was put to very little use. The room is an open 17x23 but the listen area is in a corner which is about 9x13 with traditional rectangular HT arrangement.

Here's where I'm looking for input:

1. Sell the GS10 for RX6 to gain some bass?
2. Keep the GS10 and add a smaller/better subwoofer?

Music goes to 60% hiphop/r&b/pop, 30% jazz, 10% classical. Overall it's about 70% music and 30% TV/movies.

I went from B&W 602S3 to the MA GS10 and never looked back. The addition of the tube amp helped mellow the brightness (or maybe I just like distortion). Anyway, just wondering if anyone else has gone through a similar change, or has auditioned the GS10 next to RX6 for comparison, or just wants to share an opinion. Cheers!

Originally Posted by hifisponge

I've owned the GS60's and listened to the RX8 at the store. Even though the RX series is newer, IMO the GS series still sounds better so I would stick with the GS10 for the sound quality and get a good sub. A sub will give you true full range performance whereas a small tower speaker will not go that much deeper than your GS10. However, using a sub to the best effect often requires the use of EQ to address room boom, and achieving proper sub / GS10 integration (setting the crossover point, the phase, and level) is also going to be difficult if done by ear. In your set-up, introducing as sub is going to be tricky I would think since you are going straight from the CD player to the amp. If you were using the Pioneer for music, the onboard EQ would take care of the room problems and the auto-calibration would take care of the sub to main integration.

The Velodyne SPL-1200 is actually a very good sub, so I have to wonder if you were already faced with room problems and not being able to set it up properly. Many 2CH guys poo-poo subs because they sound disconnected from the rest of the system and boomy, which 9/10 is due to the room and trying to calibrate by ear. What didn't you like about the Velo?

Originally Posted by ClemsonChad

I found a very good deal on a set of slightly used RS6's and the matching RS LCR from Saturday Audio, so I finally made the plunge to a "true" speaker system!! Yes, I'm pumped.

So, now I need you guys to help me choose the appropriate AVR. I've seen where many prefer Denon or Marantz with Audyssey for calibration reasons. Is this true and, if so, which one do you suggest? Is the Denon 1911 or 2311 recommended? I've also heard good things about the new Pioneer 1120.

Also, I will be upgrading my surrounds and sub in the near future as well. My use will be 75% movies/TV/PS3 games and 25% music.

Originally Posted by Snyper886

Thank you for the feedback guys. I was leaning towards another sub and keeping the GS10s. Indeed, there were some problems with set up and I gave up on that sub, even though it's well received. I couldn't get it to mesh well; it was too boomy even after running MCACC on the Pioneer. In the end I'm just looking for some more extension, but don't want to rock the place and have the neighbors at the door constantly. CDs would normally play 2ch amp-direct, but sometimes I've gone 2.1 thru the receiver.

I'll take a look at the Epik sub, but have also considered the BK XLS200. Any other recommendations?

Originally Posted by grey9hound

I own the Rs6 setup with rs1 in the rear . I am using a Marantz Sr5003 avr and i am very happy with it. I am bi-amping the Left and Right fronts . I am using an Emotiva LPA-1 amp for all 5 speakers. I run my outdoor speakers (at the pool) off of the AVR itself.

Originally Posted by Snyper886

Budget is around $1000 to $1500, but another issue is size; don't really want to go bigger than the 15" cube of the Velo, infact smaller the better. In hindsight, wonder what the use of an EQ like the Antimode 8033 would have done... The F110 is worth a look, maybe can find a used one around here. There's a F112 for sale locally but $2000 asking is steep.

I was able to take a listen to RX8 next to GS60 in the same room, and RX6 in another room, but this was a walk-in listen without familiar material. I'll have to go back next week for a proper audition.

Originally Posted by ClemsonChad

Well, I just got the Pio 1120 for $500, including shipping and the warranty...couldn't pass on that deal.

I'm clueless and trying to learn when it comes to home audio, so please tell me what amps I should be looking at, if any? I didn't see the Emotiva LPA-1 anywhere for sale.

Originally Posted by hifisponge

You might want to look into a JL F110. The JL subs are very tight and articulate, and they also have gobs of output for their size.

Originally Posted by WestCoastD

I've been very impressed with my JL F110. Although have'nt had much time to optimize set-up. One thing I've noticed is it's ON all the time (at least the led is constantly ON). I notice the amp heat-sink is always warm as well, is this normal? I thought I followed set-up procedure properly. Sometimes switching a random lightswitch (on the same circuit) will enable loud transient (boom). Also, when I turn-OFF main system power on my Furman conditioner.

Originally Posted by hifisponge

Hmm, well, the JL does have an auto-on function, but I never use it because I've found these types of functions to be inconsistent as to when they trigger on, and because they do things like cause thumps when then power up. I don't know how energy inefficient it is to leave the sub on all the time, but that's how I roll

Originally Posted by hifisponge

Hmm, well, the JL does have an auto-on function, but I never use it because I've found these types of functions to be inconsistent as to when they trigger on, and because they do things like cause thumps when then power up. I don't know how energy inefficient it is to leave the sub on all the time, but that's how I roll.

Originally Posted by holt7153

I've also heard that it's best to always keep them ON as opposed to AUTO as occasionally when they go into "sleep mode" it's hard "wake them up." Any truth to this?

Originally Posted by ClemsonChad

Well, I just got the Pio 1120 for $500, including shipping and the warranty...couldn't pass on that deal.

I'm clueless and trying to learn when it comes to home audio, so please tell me what amps I should be looking at, if any? I didn't see the Emotiva LPA-1 anywhere for sale.

Originally Posted by hifisponge

I can't say with the JL because I've never tried the auto function, but yes, with the Velodyne I used to own, the auto-on would often not work when watching TV at low volumes. Not enough signal strength to wake it up.

Originally Posted by hifisponge

Here ya go, a JL F110 for $1400.
http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....lack-gloss-wit

I think he has a little padding in his price, so you could talk him down a bit, or offer full asking price with shipping included.

Or, I have a contact that could probably get you a new one for just about the top of your budget.

JL F110 dimensions: 15.64H in x 12.92W in. x 17.27D in.

The JL has a built-in single band EQ to take out the most severe room mode, which does the trick for many rooms.

I'm interested in hearing your impressions of the GS vs. the RX.

Originally Posted by Snyper886

From the brief listen, the GS were more clear in detail and highs were more pronounced than RX. Didn't get to hear anything with more depth so can't comment about bass response. Not sure when I'll have time next week for an audition, but I'll provide some feedback when I get around to it. There's also a pair of PL200 in the same room and will try to hear them too.

As for the sub, I might be able to get a used F112 for around max budget, so will wait and see how things play out.