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post #8131 of 10041
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

Well its good To hear that some one is using a rx6 / nad combo . If i do upgrade , i will get a nad t748 .
What source component(cd player/blu rayp) are you using with this setup?

Actually my speakers are Monitor Audio 303 fronts (picked up late 90's) and the RX Centre across the front. The surrounds are Monitor Audio M3's (also late 90's speakers).

My source component is an Oppo BDP 95 which excels with everything I have put into it.

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Originally Posted by fullerms View Post

AVR / Speakers selection is very subjective. We need to listen to what our ears tell us.

Absolutely agree with you. When I first heard my Monitor Audio 303's I was somewhat stunned. I had gone to audition a pair of B & W speakers that I had read about, both the same price, and came home with the 303's. I definitely listened to what my ears told me at the time.

Maybe that particular model Denon paired with MA speakers just wasn't my taste.

Also I would recommend auditioning at home if possible.
post #8132 of 10041
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Originally Posted by fullerms View Post


Hook up your iPhone audio jack to the Denon stereo input. Your iPhone should be playing the music. Let us know if that makes any difference.

Did you check the Radio on the Denon? how does that sound?

Btw, is the Denon grounded properly?

Ok so

When its connected to the ps3 the hiss is evident at say about - 15 db and when
No source is selected i can hear the hiss only if i crank it up to + 5 db or more..

Now im getting paranoid that tweeters may be damaged , i can hear no difference when i decrease or increase the treble tone in manual settings , could the speaker crossover be damaged ?
How do you figure out if indeed the tweeter is blown , vocals dont distort at high volumes theres not much distortion but the high are becoming unbearable
post #8133 of 10041
Welp, after weeks of painstaking research and speaker auditions and going in with a budget of under $1000 for bookshelf speakers for a small apartment, I kept getting drawn to these B-Stock Monitor Audio BR1's! ($199 Sale) Even though they are an older discontinued model, the mid/high end clarity was only surpassed by one set of speakers, the Rega RS1. ($700) But the low end had distortion when you begin to crank it up. Even compared them with MA RX1's and I liked the BR1's better. (Although if I had a bigger place I might have gone with the RX1's.)

The BR1's low end is very clean and tight, not as full as most, but hey I don't want to make the neighbors angry and I don't listen to a lot of bass heavy music anyway. The speakers were so cheap I picked up a V-DAC II along with it! I'm so happy with them I can't stop listening!

Sorry, just needed to gloat a little bit!
post #8134 of 10041
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Originally Posted by DJHuuE View Post

Welp, after weeks of painstaking research and speaker auditions and going in with a budget of under $1000 for bookshelf speakers for a small apartment, I kept getting drawn to these B-Stock Monitor Audio BR1's! ($199 Sale) Even though they are an older discontinued model, the mid/high end clarity was only surpassed by one set of speakers, the Rega RS1. ($700) But the low end had distortion when you begin to crank it up. Even compared them with MA RX1's and I liked the BR1's better. (Although if I had a bigger place I might have gone with the RX1's.)

The BR1's low end is very clean and tight, not as full as most, but hey I don't want to make the neighbors angry and I don't listen to a lot of bass heavy music anyway. The speakers were so cheap I picked up a V-DAC II along with it! I'm so happy with them I can't stop listening!

Sorry, just needed to gloat a little bit!

Congrats!!!! It's funny you mentioned the V-DAC II, I was looking at that the other day, I'm just not sure if I need it or not.
post #8135 of 10041
Yeah I was skeptical too but it definitely makes a huge difference. Much warmer and crisper sound. And louder. At least if you're playing mp3's or flacs. I have yet to hook it up to a CD player to see if that makes a difference. But if I had to choose between putting money towards a good speaker or a DAC, i'd get the speaker.
post #8136 of 10041
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Originally Posted by DJHuuE View Post

Yeah I was skeptical too but it definitely makes a huge difference. Much warmer and crisper sound. And louder. At least if you're playing mp3's or flacs. I have yet to hook it up to a CD player to see if that makes a difference. But if I had to choose between putting money towards a good speaker or a DAC, i'd get the speaker.

I was looking at it because of something I have read and wanted to get one to test out things for myself. I have the RX line with a nice receiver, which is suppose to have a great DAC built in it. Just wanted to test some theories.
post #8137 of 10041
Congrats, welcome to the MA family!

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Originally Posted by DJHuuE View Post

Welp, after weeks of painstaking research and speaker auditions and going in with a budget of under $1000 for bookshelf speakers for a small apartment, I kept getting drawn to these B-Stock Monitor Audio BR1's! ($199 Sale) Even though they are an older discontinued model, the mid/high end clarity was only surpassed by one set of speakers, the Rega RS1. ($700) But the low end had distortion when you begin to crank it up. Even compared them with MA RX1's and I liked the BR1's better. (Although if I had a bigger place I might have gone with the RX1's.)

The BR1's low end is very clean and tight, not as full as most, but hey I don't want to make the neighbors angry and I don't listen to a lot of bass heavy music anyway. The speakers were so cheap I picked up a V-DAC II along with it! I'm so happy with them I can't stop listening!

Sorry, just needed to gloat a little bit!
post #8138 of 10041
Does anyone find the ma rx6 bright with a denon 791 ?
post #8139 of 10041
I have the RX8 and I'm using a Denon 4810 and I do not find them bright at all.
post #8140 of 10041
I have a quick question for the Monitor guys...how do the GX100 speakers attach to the Monitor stands? Are they screwd in or do they just sit on the stand? The reason I ask is I have a 12 year old and a 6 year old and if I go with a monitor I want to make sure they are stable. (I will fill the stands with sand or lead shot but the speaker needs to be attached)

I listened to the GX100 and was very impressed with the build quality and the sound over my RX8's. I like the RX8's a lot but I'm looking for a little better mid range and highs and I think a good two way with dual subs will give me a sound I'm looking for. The 8's have a tendency to be a little muddy on the low end. I have them running as small and crossed over at 80 and I'm still struggling with the low end in direct two channel without subs. Any help would be great.
post #8141 of 10041
^ Did you try bi-amping to see if it makes any difference? The bass on my rx8s was noticeably tighter after I bi-amped them.
post #8142 of 10041
RAKS,

What amps are you using for bi-amping? I have been tweaking my system over and over and I like the sound of the RX8's but I've been struggling with set up issues. I just spent a few hours today redoing Audyssey, moving my sub and rearranging my front right and left speakers. I sit about 9 ft. and spread the right and left to about 8 ft. apart and toed them in slightly toward the listening position. This has helped a lot.

My issues now I feel are with my subwoofer. I decided to sell my Definitive Tech Reference sub and I'm looking at picking up dual subs. The subs that have gotten my attention are the SVS SB12-NSD's. I think this will be a big improvement especially for two channel and give me plenty of low end for movies.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Ted
post #8143 of 10041
I also think prior to selling my speakers I am definitely going to go with dual subs and hook up my XPA-3 amp. My ultimate goal is to go with seperates.
post #8144 of 10041
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Originally Posted by VTGOLFER View Post

I have a quick question for the Monitor guys...how do the GX100 speakers attach to the Monitor stands? Are they screwd in or do they just sit on the stand? The reason I ask is I have a 12 year old and a 6 year old and if I go with a monitor I want to make sure they are stable. (I will fill the stands with sand or lead shot but the speaker needs to be attached)

I listened to the GX100 and was very impressed with the build quality and the sound over my RX8's. I like the RX8's a lot but I'm looking for a little better mid range and highs and I think a good two way with dual subs will give me a sound I'm looking for. The 8's have a tendency to be a little muddy on the low end. I have them running as small and crossed over at 80 and I'm still struggling with the low end in direct two channel without subs. Any help would be great.

What speaker cables are you using? I recently got a set of MA Silver 9i, and bi-wired them with a couple of different cables, and was getting what I consider poor bass out of them. This is not an ad at all, but I found an old set of Goertz MI-2 Veracity cables I had lying around. As an experiment, I re-inserted the speaker binding jumpers and single-wired the MI-2 cables to the speakers.

I'll be darned if I don't now have much more and better quality bass out of the 9i set. Might just want to play around a bit more with your cable selection and bi-wire vs. single wire, YRMV. I do plan someday to try bi-wiring with the MI-2 cables and see how that sounds.
post #8145 of 10041
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Originally Posted by VTGOLFER View Post

RAKS,

What amps are you using for bi-amping? I have been tweaking my system over and over and I like the sound of the RX8's but I've been struggling with set up issues. I just spent a few hours today redoing Audyssey, moving my sub and rearranging my front right and left speakers. I sit about 9 ft. and spread the right and left to about 8 ft. apart and toed them in slightly toward the listening position. This has helped a lot.

My issues now I feel are with my subwoofer. I decided to sell my Definitive Tech Reference sub and I'm looking at picking up dual subs. The subs that have gotten my attention are the SVS SB12-NSD's. I think this will be a big improvement especially for two channel and give me plenty of low end for movies.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Ted

My AVR is directly connected to the speakers and set to bi-amp mode. I have Pioneer VSX-33. I can't comment on that sub. I have REL T9 and am quite happy with it. But some people may find it lacking below ~20Hz. Otherwise the bass is pretty tight.
post #8146 of 10041
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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post

What speaker cables are you using? I recently got a set of MA Silver 9i, and bi-wired them with a couple of different cables, and was getting what I consider poor bass out of them. This is not an ad at all, but I found an old set of Goertz MI-2 Veracity cables I had lying around. As an experiment, I re-inserted the speaker binding jumpers and single-wired the MI-2 cables to the speakers.

I'll be darned if I don't now have much more and better quality bass out of the 9i set. Might just want to play around a bit more with your cable selection and bi-wire vs. single wire, YRMV. I do plan someday to try bi-wiring with the MI-2 cables and see how that sounds.

Right now I am using some 12 gauge Monster cable that I picked up from Best Buy on the roll. I have some decent Audioquest cables that I will try.

I still think it is the sub that is creating the muddy bass. To me it is just not quite quick enough.
post #8147 of 10041
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Originally Posted by VTGOLFER View Post

Right now I am using some 12 gauge Monster cable that I picked up from Best Buy on the roll. I have some decent Audioquest cables that I will try.

I still think it is the sub that is creating the muddy bass. To me it is just not quite quick enough.

I have the RX2's and (2)SVS PB12-pluses, and I know for sure they do compliment each other well. They seem to bring each other out and I feel I have a more expensive system because of that combo. I think Monitor Audio and SVS is a great combo. I love'em!!!
post #8148 of 10041
I have 3x BR2 and 2xBR1 with Svs 20-39 pci. My onkyo 609 blew up and destroyed tweeters and crossovers from my main BR2 speakers. So i bought used pair of BX2. Now i also want upgrade also the rest of my set to bx series. So im gonna get pair of BX1 but should i get third BX2 or BX LCR? I have been using BR2 as a center and it is horizontally inside my tv stand(it is closed space). So i wonder if the sealed BX LCR would be better? Also do you think its a good idea to site BR/BX2 horizontally? I dont hear anyhing bad when i watch movies, but the test sound from onkyo audussey sounds bit different.

One BX2 is 185€ and BX LCR is 230€. So i think i will just get another BX2 just like i did with with BR series. What do you guys think?

PS. My friend repairs those old BR2's and im going to sell that series to him.
post #8149 of 10041
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Originally Posted by millej View Post

Hey all,

I currently have am building my HT system. Currently I am running two monitfor 60s for my L and R. Polk 10" sub, CS2 center channel. Looking at the monitor 40's for surround.

I am very happy with the monitor series so far, but I was wondering how the CS2's would work as surround speakers? Anyone ever tried this? I ws just thinking about it, and currently looking at monitor 40's...thanks!

I think you are in the wrong thread. This is the Monitor Audio Speakers thread and not the Polk Audio Thread. Just a heads up.
post #8150 of 10041
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Originally Posted by Jtm79 View Post

I have 3x BR2 and 2xBR1 with Svs 20-39 pci. My onkyo 609 blew up and destroyed tweeters and crossovers from my main BR2 speakers. So i bought used pair of BX2. Now i also want upgrade also the rest of my set to bx series. So im gonna get pair of BX1 but should i get third BX2 or BX LCR? I have been using BR2 as a center and it is horizontally inside my tv stand(it is closed space). So i wonder if the sealed BX LCR would be better? Also do you think its a good idea to site BR/BX2 horizontally? I dont hear anyhing bad when i watch movies, but the test sound from onkyo audussey sounds bit different.

One BX2 is 185€ and BX LCR is 230€. So i think i will just get another BX2 just like i did with with BR series. What do you guys think?

PS. My friend repairs those old BR2's and im going to sell that series to him.

I have read that it is more ideal to place the center vertical rather than the traditional horizontal for the best sound. I believe it was in a review of a RX system in Home Theater magazine. Here it is a couple paragraphs above the conclusion:
http://www.hometheater.com/content/m...-system-page-2

As for using a BX2 as your center, I'd say definitely try it out. Are you able to audition both? Ideally at home if possible?
post #8151 of 10041
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Originally Posted by DrkWhtGuy View Post

I have read that it is more ideal to place the center vertical rather than the traditional horizontal for the best sound. I believe it was in a review of a RX system in Home Theater magazine. Here it is a couple paragraphs above the conclusion:
http://www.hometheater.com/content/m...-system-page-2

As for using a BX2 as your center, I'd say definitely try it out. Are you able to audition both? Ideally at home if possible?

I'm not sure I like how he set up the crossover with those speakers. He has the sub at 80Hz and he said the fronts are at 120hz. He has a audio hole, and he is claiming that is fixing the mid-bass emphasis with the help of having the center on it's side.
post #8152 of 10041
Hi Guys,

First of all thanks for all the expertise here - I read the forum for hours and learned a lot leading to me bugging my audio dealer and changing my order three times ....

Now I would need some last feedback from you to sleep well .

I am a novice to stereo and HT systems and the best stereo system I ever had was like 500 USD (including the built in CD-player).

I will use the system to 80% for watching movies and HD TV and streaming movies and the rest to listen to digital music (think itunes and spotify and not high quality CDs).

My room is medium to large sized with a bit more than 600 square feet (56 m2) and it is 13 feet (4 m) high and quite square.

Here is the current setup that I ordered:

- RX 8 front
- RX 1 back
- RX Center
- Velodyne SPL 1000 Ultra
- Pioneer LX75 AV
- Pioneer LX55 Blue Ray Player

And here are the for me most pressing/bothering questions:

1. Would the RX6 be a better choice than the RX8? I read that the RX8 might have some "bass problems/deficiencies" compared to the RX6 and that with a good sub woofer the RX6 would be better. I am worried that this strong bass thing kinda negatively influences the RX8 without any advantages in return. Is that justified or (as the higher version and price suggests) the RX8 should be at least as fine as the RX6? Or might I never really hear the difference and if I have the money and space the RX8 cant be worse than the RX6 in my setup.

2. As I mostly watch movies with the system and as I read here that the center takes almost 60% of the work for movies I thought about changing the RX Center to the Gold GXC 350 Center. Does that make sense at all? And does that even harmonically work together with the rest of the setup?

I am not on the high side of cash and also my ears are not good enough going one level above (eg. the whole gold series) but I do not mind spending a bit more to improve the center or having the RX8 instead of the RX6.

Thanks a lot !! - your feedback is more than highly appreciated to get my first "real" cool system.
post #8153 of 10041
Since this is going to be a setup mainly for movie watching, I wouldn't get the RX 6 or 8's. Since you are buying a sub for the bass, don't waste your money paying for the low-end that's in towers.

Look into the RX2's for your front left and right speakers and using the RX center.

The bookshelf will be your highs and mid-range, while the sub provide the bass.

Your second question is defiantly a no-no. You never want to mix your left and right speakers with a center that does not go with them, and then mixing tweeters with ribbons wouldn't sound right. The RX center is an amazing speaker and it can and will handle it's own very well.
post #8154 of 10041
Thanks for the quick answer.

I thought about that a little but if the RX8 or RX6 are not negatively influencing anything but are just bigger and a bit more expensive then that would not be a decision criteria for me. It might be crazy but I would just like to know I can also throw in a good audio CD and have a better sound than by going with the RX1/2 alone.

Would you think that the RX8 or RX6 have another drawback besides money and size that should make them not desirable?

And could the RX8 be worse than the RX6 for what I am doing or just too good for what I need .
post #8155 of 10041
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Originally Posted by numpsi View Post

Thanks for the quick answer.

I thought about that a little but if the RX8 or RX6 are not negatively influencing anything but are just bigger and a bit more expensive then that would not be a decision criteria for me. It might be crazy but I would just like to know I can also throw in a good audio CD and have a better sound than by going with the RX1/2 alone.

Would you think that the RX8 or RX6 have another drawback besides money and size that should make them not desirable?

And could the RX8 be worse than the RX6 for what I am doing or just too good for what I need .

With the RX2's you will still have great music with or without the sub, it's a great speaker.

Since you said mostly home theater, having the separate sub will go much lower then what a tower can do.

If you sounded like an enthusiast for just 2 channel music, then by all means just get the towers. Most music does not go as low as some movies will.

The RX8's will only go as low as 32Hz and that's fine for certain music, but you want a really good sub that can dig deep into the 18hz range.

The RX2's go as low as 40hz and that's fine for music also, if you used them alone and I have. I go back and forth with using my left and right with a sub and sometimes without a sub.

If you want the towers then get them, I'm just letting you know, you would be wasting money.

In one post you are saying you really don't have the money, then in another post you say it as if money is not a problem.

Whatever you do, do not think that bookshelf speakers are some poor mans budget speaker.
post #8156 of 10041
Thanks.

I meant I am not on the high side of cash going to the next level as something like Gold Series.
But when its a decision between RX6 and RX8 its ok.

One other main parameter is that my room is quite big and 4 meter high. So the bookshelf speakers might not be strong enough.
post #8157 of 10041
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Originally Posted by numpsi View Post

Thanks.

I meant I am not on the high side of cash going to the next level as something like Gold Series.
But when its a decision between RX6 and RX8 its ok.

One other main parameter is that my room is quite big and 4 meter high. So the bookshelf speakers might not be strong enough.

lol...
Then get the RX8's
post #8158 of 10041
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Originally Posted by numpsi View Post

Hi Guys,

First of all thanks for all the expertise here - I read the forum for hours and learned a lot leading to me bugging my audio dealer and changing my order three times ....

Now I would need some last feedback from you to sleep well .

I am a novice to stereo and HT systems and the best stereo system I ever had was like 500 USD (including the built in CD-player).

I will use the system to 80% for watching movies and HD TV and streaming movies and the rest to listen to digital music (think itunes and spotify and not high quality CDs).

My room is medium to large sized with a bit more than 600 square feet (56 m2) and it is 13 feet (4 m) high and quite square.

Here is the current setup that I ordered:

- RX 8 front
- RX 1 back
- RX Center
- Velodyne SPL 1000 Ultra
- Pioneer LX75 AV
- Pioneer LX55 Blue Ray Player

And here are the for me most pressing/bothering questions:

1. Would the RX6 be a better choice than the RX8? I read that the RX8 might have some "bass problems/deficiencies" compared to the RX6 and that with a good sub woofer the RX6 would be better. I am worried that this strong bass thing kinda negatively influences the RX8 without any advantages in return. Is that justified or (as the higher version and price suggests) the RX8 should be at least as fine as the RX6? Or might I never really hear the difference and if I have the money and space the RX8 cant be worse than the RX6 in my setup.

2. As I mostly watch movies with the system and as I read here that the center takes almost 60% of the work for movies I thought about changing the RX Center to the Gold GXC 350 Center. Does that make sense at all? And does that even harmonically work together with the rest of the setup?

I am not on the high side of cash and also my ears are not good enough going one level above (eg. the whole gold series) but I do not mind spending a bit more to improve the center or having the RX8 instead of the RX6.

Thanks a lot !! - your feedback is more than highly appreciated to get my first "real" cool system.

I think most owners of the RX6's would agree that the RX8's would be unnecessary with a dedicated sub. I have the RX6's with a sub & it sounds great. Also, the GX series is somewhat sonically matched with the RX's. The ribbon tweeter on the GX center would probably not be an issue. I have successfully mixed the RX & GX line in my system. Adding the GX's did create an overall improvement to my system.

I know these kinds of decisions can be somewhat concerning to a new buyer so I hope this helps.
post #8159 of 10041
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Originally Posted by kaa1954 View Post

I think most owners of the RX6's would agree that the RX8's would be unnecessary with a dedicated sub. I have the RX6's with a sub & it sounds great. Also, the GX series is somewhat sonically matched with the RX's. The ribbon tweeter on the GX center would probably not be an issue. I have successfully mixed the RX & GX line in my system. Adding the GX's did create an overall improvement to my system.

I know these kinds of decisions can be somewhat concerning to a new buyer so I hope this helps.

WoW!!! Talk about terrible advice.
post #8160 of 10041
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Originally Posted by numpsi View Post

Thanks.

I meant I am not on the high side of cash going to the next level as something like Gold Series.
But when its a decision between RX6 and RX8 its ok.

One other main parameter is that my room is quite big and 4 meter high. So the bookshelf speakers might not be strong enough.

The best thing to do it go and listen to them back-to-back and be the judge yourself. When I auditioned them (multiple times at different location), I felt RX8s were more open than RX6s. That made me choose them over the 6s.
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