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post #8551 of 10043
I am looking at going from a stereo to HT configuration. I have the GS20's and so am thinking of making them into rears and getting the newer GX300's and matching GXC350. I have 2 questions for those that know these speakers.
1. Will my GS20's be OK as rears or are they too dissimilar to the new GX series speakers?
2. I have several stereo power amps that are bridgable (Musical Fidelity A370), but when bridged, will this be too much for the centre channel? It is a 200 w amp before being bridged so will be circa 400 w rms 8oms when bridged. Fronts and rears will also use MF A370 amps to keep the tonal balance. I dont want to "waste" the centre channel amp by only using half of it.

I dont know if it is possible to do a Bi-Amp configuration for the centre channel using my DSP. It is possible for the fronts, as my ONKYO pr-sc5507 has a special setup for bi-amped fronts.

TIA
post #8552 of 10043
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Originally Posted by thehornedone View Post

Question for the GX owners... ...What have you found a suitable break in time for these?

I have had a set of GX50' for a couple of months now and find they are still getting better week by week. The mid-range is filling out more and less and less tracks have that slightly too 'tinny sound'. I find myself listening to music longer in my AVR's 'pure direct' mode without the subs or anything else apart from the GX50's now. Sometimes I wonder why I have brought all these subs and other speakers I have in my room and feel I would be happy enough with a minimalist 2ch GX50 system. But it has taken a couple of months to get to this point.
post #8553 of 10043
Stereophile's June issue (just came out) reviews the RX6s.

Measurements look good except for a resonance at 200Hz coming from the front port.

Mid-treble peaks found on the RS6 are mostly gone, but small peak still evident at 10kHz. Tweeter "oil-can" resonance pushed up to about 25kHz on new tweeter (was around 20kHz on RS6).

Sensitivity slightly down (to 88 from 89.5 if my memory is correct). Impedance curve shows RX6 a little tougher load than RS6.

Some off-axis flaring in low-treble.
post #8554 of 10043
hello guys.... i just got a Naim Nait 3r but is not a good match with my MA gr20s .. way toooooo bright!, now I am thinking on getting me a Rega Mira? ... what do you guys think? anybody here using any rega IAmps??
post #8555 of 10043
Still trying to work out the surrounds for my GX upgrade.

Monitor Audio's technical services dept suggested that if I use GSFX on the sides in Dipole mode they will be out of phase with the GX50's at the back and recommended I go for the RXFX instead...

So now I'm totally confused hence all the questions. If they're going to be out of phase with the rear surrounds wouldnt they be out of phase with the fronts too? Doesnt make sense & seems bizarre that MA would produce such incompatible high-end speakers.

Anyone had these set up like this by any chance?
post #8556 of 10043
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Originally Posted by damienbuckley View Post

Still trying to work out the surrounds for my GX upgrade.

Monitor Audio's technical services dept suggested that if I use GSFX on the sides in Dipole mode they will be out of phase with the GX50's at the back and recommended I go for the RXFX instead...

So now I'm totally confused hence all the questions. If they're going to be out of phase with the rear surrounds wouldnt they be out of phase with the fronts too? Doesnt make sense & seems bizarre that MA would produce such incompatible high-end speakers.

Anyone had these set up like this by any chance?

The GSFX's are di-pole/mono-pole selectable, while the RXFX's are di/bi-pole selectable. Do you think they were trying to tell you to use the RXFX's in Bi-pole mode because of the tweeters being out of phase?
post #8557 of 10043
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Originally Posted by HAMP568 View Post


The GSFX's are di-pole/mono-pole selectable, while the RXFX's are di/bi-pole selectable. Do you think they were trying to tell you to use the RXFX's in Bi-pole mode because of the tweeters being out of phase?

Yep, thats exactly what they were saying. What do you think?
post #8558 of 10043
Hi All:

Just had a GX 5.1 system delivered to be set up next weekend (it's going to be a long week!): GX300 fronts, GXC150 center, GXW-15 sub, and GX50 rear surrounds.

Would any owners have any tips/suggestions on the set-up of the speakers?

I know the sub has a mic and some set-up software (LEO?), which I guess I would run before running the room correction stuff (MCACC) on my AVR?

How many hours of break-in do you think it will take before everthing is sounding at their best?

Thanks,
JD
post #8559 of 10043
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Originally Posted by damienbuckley View Post

Yep, thats exactly what they were saying. What do you think?

I honestly believe, since you have the GS's, the RXFX's will be fine inside your setup. I have two sets of the RXFX's and I LOVE them.
post #8560 of 10043
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Originally Posted by HAMP568 View Post


I honestly believe, since you have the GS's, the RXFX's will be fine inside your setup. I have two sets of the RXFX's and I LOVE them.

I have RS currently. I was planning on buying the GX5.1 set plus GX50's for the rear. Its not that I doubt the RSFX (I've been VERY happy with my RSFX etc), I'm just apprehensive about the GX surrounds given that usage seems unclear. If I didnt have floor-ceiling bookshelves at the rear I'd buy two sets of GXFX...
post #8561 of 10043
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Originally Posted by beaveav View Post

Stereophile's June issue (just came out) reviews the RX6s.

Measurements look good except for a resonance at 200Hz coming from the front port.

Mid-treble peaks found on the RS6 are mostly gone, but small peak still evident at 10kHz. Tweeter "oil-can" resonance pushed up to about 25kHz on new tweeter (was around 20kHz on RS6).

Sensitivity slightly down (to 88 from 89.5 if my memory is correct). Impedance curve shows RX6 a little tougher load than RS6.

Some off-axis flaring in low-treble.

very interesting ... so ... what's the final impression?, a real "upgrade" for the old RS? ...

talking exclusively about the sound ... impedance, sensitivity,... are more important factors for amplification or the room size
post #8562 of 10043
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Originally Posted by jd_alpha View Post

Hi All:

Just had a GX 5.1 system delivered to be set up next weekend (it's going to be a long week!): GX300 fronts, GXC150 center, GXW-15 sub, and GX50 rear surrounds.

Would any owners have any tips/suggestions on the set-up of the speakers?

I know the sub has a mic and some set-up software (LEO?), which I guess I would run before running the room correction stuff (MCACC) on my AVR?

How many hours of break-in do you think it will take before everthing is sounding at their best?

Thanks,
JD

The RX range takes 'forever' to break in - 3 months of 12-16 hours per day or 6 months in normal use.

The GX only took me about 3 weeks of 12-16 hours per day to sound very relaxed.....

The RX break in period should come with a warning sign!! For weeks I thought I made the wrong decision buying the RX8.... So much so I bought the Gx300...... A few months later the RX8 do sound very good... Albeit it's no competition to the Gx200/300....
post #8563 of 10043
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Originally Posted by jd_alpha View Post

Hi All:

Just had a GX 5.1 system delivered to be set up next weekend (it's going to be a long week!): GX300 fronts, GXC150 center, GXW-15 sub, and GX50 rear surrounds.

Would any owners have any tips/suggestions on the set-up of the speakers?

I know the sub has a mic and some set-up software (LEO?), which I guess I would run before running the room correction stuff (MCACC) on my AVR?

How many hours of break-in do you think it will take before everthing is sounding at their best?

Thanks,
JD

Congrats, I bet your thrilled. I'm interested in your decision to go with the GX50 rather than GXFX? You may have noted above I'm looking at the same package but am a bit stuck with the surrounds at the moment so keen to hear how you go. I also notice you mention MCACC so you're running a Pioneer receiver. Which do you have? I'm running the LX90.
post #8564 of 10043
It was mostly due to room limitations. I have to stick the rear surrounds in the back corners pretty tight to the walls, so I wouldn't be able to use the GXFXs in their dipole mode. I also wanted something I could put on floor stands rather than wall mounts. It's not a dedicated HT room, so I have to compromise with my better half on some stuff!

I'm using an SC-57. Some posters on AVS have suggested I'd benefit from more amp power with this GX 5.1 set-up, but it's far from clear-cut. I figure if I notice any deficiencies I'll look for a 3-channel power amp to add into the mix.

Incidentally, the feedback I received on the GX sub on AVS was far from flattering. I think it likely will lack the power below 30 Hz for HT compared to the recommended net seller brands as was suggested, but it is super-quick and a good match for the rest of the system for music. Plus it has that built-in LEO software for EQ/room correction. (And I got a great package deal on the pricing).

Good luck with your speaker decision!

- JD


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Originally Posted by damienbuckley View Post

Congrats, I bet your thrilled. I'm interested in your decision to go with the GX50 rather than GXFX? You may have noted above I'm looking at the same package but am a bit stuck with the surrounds at the moment so keen to hear how you go. I also notice you mention MCACC so you're running a Pioneer receiver. Which do you have? I'm running the LX90.
post #8565 of 10043
So, someone in my area is selling an MR Center, a pair of MR2, and a Bronze BRW10 subwoofer for $60. Is that an okay deal? I'm looking into getting this set for a friend.

I don't know anything about Monitor Audio so I thought I'd ask the Owners
post #8566 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

So, someone in my area is selling an MR Center, a pair of MR2, and a Bronze BRW10 subwoofer for $60. Is that an okay deal? I'm looking into getting this set for a friend.

I don't know anything about Monitor Audio so I thought I'd ask the Owners

3 speakers and a sub for $60??? If everything's working properly, I'm going to say that is indeed a deal!
post #8567 of 10043
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

So, someone in my area is selling an MR Center, a pair of MR2, and a Bronze BRW10 subwoofer for $60. Is that an okay deal? I'm looking into getting this set for a friend.

I don't know anything about Monitor Audio so I thought I'd ask the Owners

If the deal is real, run and grab it... but I suspect the chap missed a zero... $600 for the lot sounds fair...
post #8568 of 10043
Well, i read the stereophile review of the RX6 and it's an upgrade over the RS6 ... especially in the highs.
The Silver line continues as a terrific value for the money ... cheers :-)
post #8569 of 10043
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

If the deal is real, run and grab it... but I suspect the chap missed a zero... $600 for the lot sounds fair...

Well I asked what the price would be on just the sub, in case that was true, and he said $35. If the lot is worth much more than $60, even if my friend doesn't want it, I'll buy them just for the deal myself. I have way too many speakers in my one-bedroom apt as is, but the more speakers the merrier for me I say

I could use another sub though so $35 for a sub, even if it's an intro sub is a deal no matter how good of a performer it is. I already have an Outlaw LFM-2 so having another sub that performs around the same would be nice to even out the bass in my system. Otherwise, my friend gets a great deal
post #8570 of 10043
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Originally Posted by The Upsetter View Post

3 speakers and a sub for $60??? If everything's working properly, I'm going to say that is indeed a deal!

Good, I just wasn't sure. Granted I know almost everything to know on Energy speakers, but since this was another make I didn't want to dive in and then find out it was an old, intro model and that I got ripped off or something. But you're right, functioning speakers and a sub for $60 is almost too good to pass up.
post #8571 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

Good, I just wasn't sure. Granted I know almost everything to know on Energy speakers, but since this was another make I didn't want to dive in and then find out it was an old, intro model and that I got ripped off or something. But you're right, functioning speakers and a sub for $60 is almost too good to pass up.

I will get them as long as they're in good shape and working. I bought a pair of used Monitor Gold 20 tower and Gold LCR not too long ago. They are great speakers. I even got a non working Velodyne MiniVee 8 sub as part of the deal. Price - I paid more for my iPod classic than the speakers.
post #8572 of 10043
I am upgrading to PL200s for my front speakers and am wondering if the GXC150 will work well as my center. My equipment cabinet will not hold any of the PL center speakers or the larger GXC center but will fit the GXC150.

It is either that or keep my Definitive Technology CLR2002.

What does the jury say?
post #8573 of 10043
I am currently running an Onkyo TX-NR5008 which is rated for 170W at 6ohms. When I demoed the speakers at the dealer of course they were running a juicy Simaudio Moon external amp so the speakers sounded fantastic.

Do you think the Onkyo will come close to providing enough good power to drive the PL200s or will I need to plan on an external amp to achieve the potential of the Platinum speakers?

If so what kind of recommendations do you have for an amp that won't break the bank?

Simon says:
post #8574 of 10043
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

I am upgrading to PL200s for my front speakers and am wondering if the GXC150 will work well as my center. My equipment cabinet will not hold any of the PL center speakers or the larger GXC center but will fit the GXC150.

It is either that or keep my Definitive Technology CLR2002.

What does the jury say?

I have the gxc150, and I'm not a huge fan.

IMHO the 4" midrange (and of course the tweeter) is a great componenent of these speakers, and that midrange is just missing from the 150, to keep size and cost down. I wish i could have 3 gx200 (or the larger gx centre). Just my opinion, as usual ymmv.
post #8575 of 10043
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

I am currently running an Onkyo TX-NR5008 which is rated for 170W at 6ohms. When I demoed the speakers at the dealer of course they were running a juicy Simaudio Moon external amp so the speakers sounded fantastic.

Do you think the Onkyo will come close to providing enough good power to drive the PL200s or will I need to plan on an external amp to achieve the potential of the Platinum speakers?

If so what kind of recommendations do you have for an amp that won't break the bank?

Simon says:

I'm using an Emotiva XPA-3 to power LCR channels. It gives me plenty of headroom. Volume on the receiver is around -25 at my usual listening level (~85 db). I dont know how efficient the PL's are compared to my gx's, I'd guess not very different. I'd probably start with just your receiver, it may have enough power.
post #8576 of 10043
If going to a PL200's I would go to a PL center. Then it will exactly match the PL200's. Drivers, etc are different enough on the PL versus Gold GX to warrant this in my opinion. I do think to take maximum advatage of the Platiums you would want the PL350. That might be more than you want to spend. I do think a GXC350 center with GX300 towers is a great combo you should check out as an alternative.
post #8577 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Gary Bechtold View Post

If going to a PL200's I would go to a PL center. Then it will exactly match the PL200's. Drivers, etc are different enough on the PL versus Gold GX to warrant this in my opinion. I do think to take maximum advatage of the Platiums you would want the PL350. That might be more than you want to spend. I do think a GXC350 center with GX300 towers is a great combo you should check out as an alternative.

Thanks for the input!

Unfortunately the GXC150 is the largest MA center that will fit in my entertainment center or I would definately be going with the larger speaker as you suggest.

So do you think I should go with the GXC150 or stick with the DefTec center I currently have?
post #8578 of 10043
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Originally Posted by BarracudaDelGato View Post

I have the gxc150, and I'm not a huge fan.

IMHO the 4" midrange (and of course the tweeter) is a great componenent of these speakers, and that midrange is just missing from the 150, to keep size and cost down. I wish i could have 3 gx200 (or the larger gx centre). Just my opinion, as usual ymmv.

I myself also prefer the RX centre to the GX150.... I think the RX also matches better with the Gx200.... I'm now doing a home audition to theGX350... In the store the Gx sounded hollow and the RX centre better... Hence I bought the RX...

Since a friend of mine is building his own HT, I have been auditioning centre speakers to match his GX300 setup, since I have them already...

Tried the GX50, RX( I own), the GX150 and now GX350........

I have to say the GX359 sounded rubbish in the store's demo room.... However in my room.... It sounds wonderfully open, detailed, with solid weight to the voices...... I'm sold! I guess my amp at home (emotiva XPA-5), must be much better then the Primare used in the shop, or the acoustics.....

The Gx350 in my house, sounds very natural and matches well with the Gx300.... In the shop it was a very different story.... The RX is still a great centre, and the second best in the monitor audio line up, and if your cabinet/room is not so large, the RX centre would be a better option tan the Gx150.....

I was pleasantly surprised.... The Gx100 are too tall for my cabinet... S if the GX350 didn't work, I would try the Rx1 next.... A pair of GX50 sounded great for music, but didn't bring enough weight to the voices as I like....
post #8579 of 10043
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

Thanks for the input!

Unfortunately the GXC150 is the largest MA center that will fit in my entertainment center or I would definately be going with the larger speaker as you suggest.

So do you think I should go with the GXC150 or stick with the DefTec center I currently have?

f size limits your ability to do a GXC350 then I would try the GXC150. I feel it will match best with the GX200, better than the DefTec center. My Salamander cabinet didn't have enough room for the GXC350 so I got longer poles for the cabinet and was able to fit the GXC350 in. The vertical midrange / tweeter combo is fantastic. I'm actually looking at doing either A GX200 or GX300 for my rear surrounds to complete the 5.1 setup. I'm leaning towards another GX300 pair, then I'll have the same drivers at every speaker. I might consider a GXFX or a GX100 if I go 7.1 for the side surrounds.

I listened extensively to the PL300 and I think the GX300 gives you 90-something % of the sound for 50% of the price. The PL200 has a similar driver compliment (though different) to the GX300. It cured my want for Platinums.
post #8580 of 10043
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Originally Posted by big_marcelo View Post


I myself also prefer the RX centre to the GX150.... I think the RX also matches better with the Gx200.... I'm now doing a home audition to theGX350... In the store the Gx sounded hollow and the RX centre better... Hence I bought the RX...

Since a friend of mine is building his own HT, I have been auditioning centre speakers to match his GX300 setup, since I have them already...

Tried the GX50, RX( I own), the GX150 and now GX350........

I have to say the GX359 sounded rubbish in the store's demo room.... However in my room.... It sounds wonderfully open, detailed, with solid weight to the voices...... I'm sold! I guess my amp at home (emotiva XPA-5), must be much better then the Primare used in the shop, or the acoustics.....

The Gx350 in my house, sounds very natural and matches well with the Gx300.... In the shop it was a very different story.... The RX is still a great centre, and the second best in the monitor audio line up, and if your cabinet/room is not so large, the RX centre would be a better option tan the Gx150.....

I was pleasantly surprised.... The Gx100 are too tall for my cabinet... S if the GX350 didn't work, I would try the Rx1 next.... A pair of GX50 sounded great for music, but didn't bring enough weight to the voices as I like....

I've probably asked before (apologies) but what surrounds are you running with your GX gear?
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