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post #8761 of 10036
Marcelo,

I have the GXW15 (also in ebony). Thing is, I've only had it for two weeks so I may not be able to respond to your queries.

Up to now (I hate to admit it), I haven't focused much on its placement or performance, given the other adjustments I have been trying to make. Had a couple of friends over last night and we were tinkering with it. I realized then that I really need to sit down and delve into its capabilities.

That said, I ran the MultiEQ XT when I initially set up the system (I don't have the XT32 programming). I have not tinkered with the LEO yet (primarily because I'm not sure that I will keep the subwoofer where it is and, being honest, pure laziness). I'm hoping to do all of that in the next few weeks.

That said, I'm here if you have any questions.

Luca
post #8762 of 10036
hello fellow avs members, i have recently finished construction woohoo and added the c265-fx and the rxlcr in addition to my older silver 8i speakers which may be upgraded to the rx in the future. i am wondering what is a good av receiver to pair with these speakers. budget wise around 1300-1600 looking at the denon 4311ci, pioneer sc-67, marantz sr 7007, 6007. The speakers will be used for watching tv, movies (hbo etc) my cable box will most likely be going through the av by hdmi and then from av to tv via hdmi and music occasionally. Looking to connect zone 2 to a audio splitter for the other speakers iv put through out the house, much cheaper speakers. any recomendations and advice? im leaning towards the denon 4311 bc from what iv heard the auddessey x32 is fantastic. Around this price limit should i consider going seperates or would the price run much higher? What receivers and equipment is recommended and would like to know why, always like learning new things smile.gif

thank you
post #8763 of 10036
Congrats on finishing your room, I’m about 2 ½ years behind on starting my construction. Lol
I’m with you on the Denon 4311 and it is a great price to have the full XT32. Which subs will you be using with your setup?
post #8764 of 10036
at the moment im subless
post #8765 of 10036
Hi all..

I'm brand new to the AVS Forum.. and a new owner of some GX50's in Piano Ebony. Anyone else like the GX50's or 100's?
post #8766 of 10036
That combo of c326bee and GS 20s was so "meek"..not enough oomph..So I went in a different direction..I am now running a NAD C390DD connected to minmac and to gs20s..Thats it..No DACs,preamps and amps..
This supposedly keeps the signal ALL digital(even through amplification) in the digital domain upto the speakers outs...
All I can say is it has been an interesting weekend..cool.gifcool.gif
The GS20s were awesome as usual:D:D..The NAD dac/amp really showed quality in its musicality..no harshness especially in the highs,though some perceive that as loss of "details".
I could just listen into the long hours without the need to keep tweaking..Lots of Tight,controlled Bass..

Listening at low volumes is just the thing I needed in my living room and NAD delivers:)smile.gif

Overall happy with NAD paired to GS20s.

Cheers
Kalyan
post #8767 of 10036
"Hi all..

I'm brand new to the AVS Forum.. and a new owner of some GX50's in Piano Ebony. Anyone else like the GX50's or 100's?"

Welcome to MA forum..I don't own the GX..but I can surely envy you..
Cheers
smile.gif
Edited by vidya46 - 9/18/12 at 5:50am
post #8768 of 10036
I'm in the process of updating my speakers. I currently have B&Ws, but one of the local audio stores has suggested Monitor Shadow S60s and Shadow center. The problem is that he doesn't have any to demo. Does anyone have any experience on how the D60 would compare with say B&W FPM6s.
post #8769 of 10036
How true is this? dumb question but have to ask

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Bi wiring is simply running two sets of speaker wire. Both sets hook up to the.same terminals on your reciever. Then on the speaker end one set hooks to the bottom set, and the other hooks to the top set. The major benefit is the removal of the metal connection straps between the top and bottom set of posts. You can achieve the same thing by into running one set of wires from your avr to the speakers. Then use a short piece of speaker wire to replace the metal jumpers.

The main benefit is the removal of the metal jumper.

Bi amping with an avr is not worth it. You do not get to add up the wattage. Your still only feeding 130 watts to each speaker. With some recievers it is a step down in power because they put out less watts per channel when they have more channels to run. " EXCE2_4-900px_6.jpg 24k .jpg file 185724_thumb_57478ff5acff5086f7e49efde78db052.jpg 10k .jpg file SC-05_REAR_800.jpg 101k .jpg file

Should i even bother trying to bi-amp my RS8'S? also i have not removed the metal clip thing from the speakers either, should be removing them? even my centre channel is biwred.

Some will say it means buy more wire, but i was able to purchase my cables at the same cost of buying mono wire so i went the biwire way.
Edited by kenshin-himura - 9/25/12 at 12:44pm
post #8770 of 10036
Bi-wiring does absolutely nothing, except to empty your wallet by buying twice the wire you need. Bi-amping has its benefits, but they're only realized when the internal passive crossovers are removed.
post #8771 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice View Post

Bi-amping has its benefits, but they're only realized when the internal passive crossovers are removed.

Just complementing what you said: I'd say we may realize the benefits if we have a crossover before the power amps, which is hard to achieve with a typical AVR (I believe you could use the multi-channel inputs to do it, but then you'd lose input switching, audio processing, etc.). Removing the internal speaker crossover is not necessary in that case, although it may help. Also, if you remove the internal speaker crossover, you should not connect the speaker to the amp unless there's another crossover somewhere in the audio path to prevent any frequencies from reaching the wrong driver.

VMat
post #8772 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice View Post

Bi-wiring does absolutely nothing, except to empty your wallet by buying twice the wire you need. Bi-amping has its benefits, but they're only realized when the internal passive crossovers are removed.

Not for me, i get charged the same price as if i was buying mono wire thats why i do it, at no additional cost for me to get the wires bi-wired I have a great hook up biggrin.gif
post #8773 of 10036
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Originally Posted by VMat View Post

Just complementing what you said: I'd say we may realize the benefits if we have a crossover before the power amps, which is hard to achieve with a typical AVR (I believe you could use the multi-channel inputs to do it, but then you'd lose input switching, audio processing, etc.). Removing the internal speaker crossover is not necessary in that case, although it may help. Also, if you remove the internal speaker crossover, you should not connect the speaker to the amp unless there's another crossover somewhere in the audio path to prevent any frequencies from reaching the wrong driver.
VMat

So i should not bother than, I will wait until I upgrade my speakers because I will be needing 2 amps one for each speaker

thank you
post #8774 of 10036
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Originally Posted by kenshin-himura View Post

So i should not bother than, I will wait until I upgrade my speakers because I will be needing 2 amps one for each speaker
thank you

Actually... if you're going to use two amps... I believe the usual way to do this would be hooking the low-freq inputs of both speakers to one amp, and the high-freq inputs of both speakers to another amp. Then each amp will have similar loads in their channels - and the amps won't need to be identical. You may try a smaller amp for the highs, for example.

A little speculation: potentially, each amp could be optimized to work with its range of frequencies - for example, the one in the higher range could have a smaller power supply, different PCB layout (shorter and maybe narrower tracks), semiconductors that work better in higher frequencies, etc., at the cost of a narrower band. I just don't know if such a system is commercially available.

VMat
post #8775 of 10036
Hi guys, new to the forum. Looking at setting up my first home theatre system. I'm of the mindset that I'd rather spend more now than keep having the itch to upgrade. The receiver I have no is an Anthem MRX500. I have an apartment that these will be going into for now but I'd like them to be useful whenever I get into a larger home. Listening distance is probably 6 feet, with the room being approx. 8x16 feet with the dining room being right beside.

The system will be used for 90% music. The GX series seems like a great place to be in so I'd like to stick to it. I've been doing a lot of research however still need to make it down to a dealer to have a listen.

I feel there are a couple options and wondering which may end up being the best, on paper (listen test pending).

1) Get the GX 50 or 100 and pair it with a sub. From reviews it seems that the 50's are better detailed and balanced but so far I cannot find someone that prefers the 100 and why. The differences seem extremely small on paper but there is a decent increase in price to the 100.

2) Get the GX200 as the 300 is likely out of my budget.

The problem is I don't know what advantage the 200 would have over the 50/100 w/ a sub but I'm very open to some input. Including a sub and stands, the price probably isn't that different. I'm leaning towards the 50 because of better feedback so far, and I can potentially use it later for a HT setup.

Given the choice, which route would you go? I don't play my music that loud even if I had the option to blare it.

Lastly, anyone with the 50/100, which sub did you go with?
post #8776 of 10036
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Originally Posted by matt_calgary View Post

Hi guys, new to the forum. Looking at setting up my first home theatre system. I'm of the mindset that I'd rather spend more now than keep having the itch to upgrade. The receiver I have no is an Anthem MRX500. I have an apartment that these will be going into for now but I'd like them to be useful whenever I get into a larger home. Listening distance is probably 6 feet, with the room being approx. 8x16 feet with the dining room being right beside.
The system will be used for 90% music. The GX series seems like a great place to be in so I'd like to stick to it. I've been doing a lot of research however still need to make it down to a dealer to have a listen.
I feel there are a couple options and wondering which may end up being the best, on paper (listen test pending).
1) Get the GX 50 or 100 and pair it with a sub. From reviews it seems that the 50's are better detailed and balanced but so far I cannot find someone that prefers the 100 and why. The differences seem extremely small on paper but there is a decent increase in price to the 100.
2) Get the GX200 as the 300 is likely out of my budget.
The problem is I don't know what advantage the 200 would have over the 50/100 w/ a sub but I'm very open to some input. Including a sub and stands, the price probably isn't that different. I'm leaning towards the 50 because of better feedback so far, and I can potentially use it later for a HT setup.
Given the choice, which route would you go? I don't play my music that loud even if I had the option to blare it.
Lastly, anyone with the 50/100, which sub did you go with?


Hi.. I own a pair of GX50's.. They're incredibly detailed. Im running them on a Elite SC-61 (at 125W/ch), and Im using a Velodyne CHT-12 (12"). I've never heard the 100's, but Im in a house and my living room is very open, and the 50's are PLENTY for me. ...escpecially at 125W. There is no limit to these. I've had them at -10dB and even 0dB. They're absolutley perfect at very high volumes. I also use them for music, and Blu-ray.. even music coming out of my Apple TV is very clean.

I tested them against the Monitor Cx-1's, B&W CM5's, and they were the CLEAR winner. Ok, yeah, the CX-1s are $800, and the CM5s are $1500 which is way below the price of the GX50's at $1800 ($2000 for the Piano-Ebony finish).. but I also tested them against the B&W PM1's at $2800, and there were evenly matched.. shoot, I even thought there were more mid-range and bass to the CX50s.

Lastly, and not by choice, I have a new set-up in my living room in which I am forced to use "phantom center" in my surround set-up. And I'm sure its more the AVR than the speakers, but it's pretty seamless... The sound that comes out of these things during movies like Inception, and Bourne Idnentity are absolutley flawless.

A good 10" sub and the GX50's are all you'll need.
post #8777 of 10036
post #8778 of 10036
I am interested in the GX 300s. I will go out and audition them, but I am concerned about them being to harsh or bright. I have a lot of pop/rock recordings that are not the best production. Are the MA GX's the type of speaker the makes those type of recordings sound worse, like flat, dull, lifeless and harsh or are they the type of speaker that can breath some life and air into these type of recordings? I am hoping for the best of both worlds, a speaker with great detail and clarity but at the same time is not bright and has a good amount of air and warmth. For the record or starters, I do have warm electronics and cables an option.
post #8779 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Kclone View Post

I am interested in the GX 300s. I will go out and audition them, but I am concerned about them being to harsh or bright. I have a lot of pop/rock recordings that are not the best production. Are the MA GX's the type of speaker the makes those type of recordings sound worse, like flat, dull, lifeless and harsh or are they the type of speaker that can breath some life and air into these type of recordings? I am hoping for the best of both worlds, a speaker with great detail and clarity but at the same time is not bright and has a good amount of air and warmth. For the record or starters, I do have warm electronics and cables an option.

Thumb rule: Good speakers + bad recordings = disappointment.

There may be some exceptions, who knows? But I can tell you I'm disappointed with many of my favorite albums - most of them because of the excessive loudness/lack of dynamics, but also because some are too "thin" or "dull", as you say. And you see, I only have the Bronze series...

On the other hand, listening to some other records is a bliss. Bottom line is I'm very glad I've bought the speakers.

VMat
post #8780 of 10036
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Originally Posted by VMat View Post

Thumb rule: Good speakers + bad recordings = disappointment.
There may be some exceptions, who knows? But I can tell you I'm disappointed with many of my favorite albums - most of them because of the excessive loudness/lack of dynamics, but also because some are too "thin" or "dull", as you say. And you see, I only have the Bronze series...
On the other hand, listening to some other records is a bliss. Bottom line is I'm very glad I've bought the speakers.
VMat

And there are exceptions. I have had both situations. When I first started buying "high end" speakers a lot of my pop/rock were very disappointing. For example I used to own the Tidal Piano's, a very expensive speaker. I mistakenly thought this would be my last speaker. It sounded outstanding on good to great recordings, but on classic rock, punk, stuff like U2, the Ramones, ect... very disappointing. Since then I have tried a few more I have found a few that really help with some of this stuff. Mark and Daniel Ruby, Fritz Carbon 7s, and Von Schwiekert Unfield 3s were all good. I used to own the GS 60s, I thought they were pretty good, but a little bright. I was just curious if Monitor Audio corrected that in their newer designs. Anyway, I hope to get out and listen to some in the next few days.
Edited by Kclone - 10/5/12 at 6:16am
post #8781 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Kclone View Post

... It sounded outstanding on good to great recordings, but on classic rock, punk, stuff like U2, the Ramones, ect... very disappointing. ...

Well... not sure if we're talking about the same thing. confused.gif When I say "bad recordings", I don't mean this or that music style or artist. E.g., Rush's "Hemispheres" sounds great in my room. "Roll The Bones" sounds too thin. "Vapor Trails" is terrible - heavily distorted, with poor dynamics (a well-known example of how not to master a CD, by the way). Same band, same style (approximately, at least), but totally different impressions.

VMat
Edited by VMat - 10/5/12 at 10:06am
post #8782 of 10036
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Originally Posted by VMat View Post

Well... not sure if we're talking about the same thing. confused.gif When I say "bad recordings", I don't mean this or that music style or artist. E.g., Rush's "Hemispheres" sounds great in my room. "Roll The Bones" sounds too thin. "Vapor Trails" is terrible - heavily distorted, with poor dynamics (a well-known example of how not to master a CD, by the way). Same band, same style (approximately, at least), but totally different impressions.
VMat

no, I'm with you. You are talking about recording quality as am I. For example, I have a Roxy Music recording that sounds outstanding. Very clear, spacious, airy. I have a U2 album that sounds dull, compressed, not very dynamic, a little bright, ect. That U2 ablum, "Boy", sounds better on my car stereo or in a boom box. On the right high end system however, the U2 record sounds better.
post #8783 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Kclone View Post

no, I'm with you. You are talking about recording quality as am I. For example, I have a Roxy Music recording that sounds outstanding. Very clear, spacious, airy. I have a U2 album that sounds dull, compressed, not very dynamic, a little bright, ect. That U2 ablum, "Boy", sounds better on my car stereo or in a boom box. On the right high end system however, the U2 record sounds better.

Since you've mentioned it, I tried "Boy" here (never had before). Sounds pretty good to me. Maybe I'm not so demanding. redface.gif

Anyway, my point is you shouldn't count on the GX300's to save your bad recordings. And in my opinion you shouldn't care too much about them, unless they are more than 80 or 90% of your collection. Focus on the good ones.

VMat
post #8784 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Kclone View Post

no, I'm with you. You are talking about recording quality as am I. For example, I have a Roxy Music recording that sounds outstanding. Very clear, spacious, airy. I have a U2 album that sounds dull, compressed, not very dynamic, a little bright, ect. That U2 ablum, "Boy", sounds better on my car stereo or in a boom box. On the right high end system however, the U2 record sounds better.

I'm not sure which format you guys are talking about. Are you using an mp3 format (iTunes, Apple Tv, iPod), or a CD, or Album? I have founf that the CD is far superior than compressed formats for my system. I'm using the GX50's and an Oppo Blu-ray. I've had both playing at the same time. For example, The Cure's Disintegration album.. I had them playing simultaneously through Apple TV, and CD on the Blu-ray.. and there's much more dpeth in the CD.
post #8785 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Ejs71 View Post

I'm not sure which format you guys are talking about.

I was talking about CD's. So was Kclone, I assume. But again, my point is about setting expectations on "improving" bad recordings with high-end gear.

VMat
Edited by VMat - 10/6/12 at 3:31pm
post #8786 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Ejs71 View Post

I'm not sure which format you guys are talking about. Are you using an mp3 format (iTunes, Apple Tv, iPod), or a CD, or Album? I have founf that the CD is far superior than compressed formats for my system. I'm using the GX50's and an Oppo Blu-ray. I've had both playing at the same time. For example, The Cure's Disintegration album.. I had them playing simultaneously through Apple TV, and CD on the Blu-ray.. and there's much more dpeth in the CD.

yeah, Cds. Love that Cure album.
post #8787 of 10036
Well I may be joining the MA ranks soon. I was dead set on getting B&W CM1's after listening to them. I spent a few days and decided I needed to cross shop other speakers before investing money into it. Went to another local store and listened to the RX6's and it was love at first listen haha. I originally went in and listened to the RX1's thinking that only bookshelf speakers were in my price range. I started asking about what was in my price range and got directed to the RX6. Honestly I can not believe the sound quality you get from these speakers especially for the low cost. I liked the sound more then I did the B&W's and I would be able to get tower speakers for only $200 more then the B&W CM1's.

I am going to listen to a few other speakers but I am pretty well sold on the RX6 I feel like it will be hard to beat at the price point it's at.

That being said how would the RX6's pair with my receiver, I just purchased an Onkyo TX-NR515. I am literally brand new to the speaker world so I am trying to learn as I go. Would my receiver be a decent pair up with the MA RX6? Thanks for any help!
post #8788 of 10036
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Originally Posted by lmyamen View Post

Well I may be joining the MA ranks soon. I was dead set on getting B&W CM1's after listening to them. I spent a few days and decided I needed to cross shop other speakers before investing money into it. Went to another local store and listened to the RX6's and it was love at first listen haha. I originally went in and listened to the RX1's thinking that only bookshelf speakers were in my price range. I started asking about what was in my price range and got directed to the RX6. Honestly I can not believe the sound quality you get from these speakers especially for the low cost. I liked the sound more then I did the B&W's and I would be able to get tower speakers for only $200 more then the B&W CM1's.
I am going to listen to a few other speakers but I am pretty well sold on the RX6 I feel like it will be hard to beat at the price point it's at.
That being said how would the RX6's pair with my receiver, I just purchased an Onkyo TX-NR515. I am literally brand new to the speaker world so I am trying to learn as I go. Would my receiver be a decent pair up with the MA RX6? Thanks for any help!

RX6 specs:

Sensitivity (1W@1M): 90dB
Nominal Impedance: 6 Ohms

So, I think you should be OK, unless you want to try to blow down the doors.
post #8789 of 10036
Monitor Audio RS6 Replacement Part - BiWire Link

Folks - I had my RS6 front speakers bi-amped and hence have not used BiWire links it came with for quite sometime. I had them placed somewhere but could not locate now.

I'm selling my speakers and want to include the BiWire links to the buyer. Can anyone please suggest where can I buy a replacement part for Monitor Audio speakers? I have googled and found only one UK online store: http://www.technosound.co.uk/eShop/ssMA.html. I'm residing in New Jersey, US and would prefer to buy it from US.

Thanks in advance.
post #8790 of 10036
You might have luck contacting their distributor in North America - Kevro International.

http://www.kevro.com/contact.html

They cover distribution for the US and Canada I think.
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