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post #9031 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Doug Nash View Post

Quick question:

I just got a set of new RX2 speakers. The MA manual which came with them (same as the one online) seems to focus exclusively on the RX-FX speakers. There's nothing but a single blurb about my RX2 models. There is a loose page which talks about re-torquing the driver screw ONCE the speakers have been broken in. But...there is exactly zero information on what they suggest for that break-in procedure. Of course, I'm just listening to the speakers, and enjoying them. But I'm still curious what other owners might suggest for the initial bedding-in period?

Thanks.

I needed similar info the RX6's. I remember finding somewhere that MA recommended about 60 hours for the Silvers, down from 80 for Gold and 100 for Platinum. Also, people such as Paul Barton of PSB speakers doesn't believe in such break-in periods at all. In the end, I ran them a little conservatively for the first few weeks, but I didn't keep a clock on it.
post #9032 of 10043
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Originally Posted by jimfrench View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Nash View Post

Quick question:

I just got a set of new RX2 speakers. The MA manual which came with them (same as the one online) seems to focus exclusively on the RX-FX speakers. There's nothing but a single blurb about my RX2 models. There is a loose page which talks about re-torquing the driver screw ONCE the speakers have been broken in. But...there is exactly zero information on what they suggest for that break-in procedure. Of course, I'm just listening to the speakers, and enjoying them. But I'm still curious what other owners might suggest for the initial bedding-in period?

Thanks.

I needed similar info the RX6's. I remember finding somewhere that MA recommended about 60 hours for the Silvers, down from 80 for Gold and 100 for Platinum. Also, people such as Paul Barton of PSB speakers doesn't believe in such break-in periods at all. In the end, I ran them a little conservatively for the first few weeks, but I didn't keep a clock on it.

you think the manufactures would put in detailed recommendations on break in periods to cover there butts in court..
how loud for how long etc but so many vairiables out there of the equipmnet maybe thats why they dont..

guess you have to ask your sale rep..

cheers
post #9033 of 10043
i heading out today to listen to some monitor rx8s

along side some paradigm 100s

which will win?

cheers
post #9034 of 10043
Thanks, guys. I realize it's hardly a perfect science. I'm not worrying about it, and just playing the speakers at moderate volume.
By the way, they sound DAMN good!!! I'm quite glad that I opted for the larger RX2 over the RX1. I'm only running straight 2-channel, and the full-range sounds are just sublime.
post #9035 of 10043
Just wanted to say....... GX350C is on its way and GX300's soon! Im stoked!
post #9036 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Maniac2k View Post

Just wanted to say....... GX350C is on its way and GX300's soon! Im stoked!

Congrats. We will have twins soon:)
post #9037 of 10043
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Originally Posted by addictaudio View Post

Congrats. We will have twins soon:)

Oh man, I feel so out of the club... I got the GX300's recently but only the GX150 :P Congrats to you guys though. These speakers are amazing.
post #9038 of 10043
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

you think the manufactures would put in detailed recommendations on break in periods to cover there butts in court..
how loud for how long etc but so many vairiables out there of the equipmnet maybe thats why they dont..

guess you have to ask your sale rep..

cheers

I agree unless they really don't think it is all that important. I would think defining "loud" would be nearly impossible, as I'm pretty sure that as I've gotten older louder is lower than it used to be or maybe that's just my hearing ;-(
post #9039 of 10043
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Originally Posted by jimfrench View Post

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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

you think the manufactures would put in detailed recommendations on break in periods to cover there butts in court..
how loud for how long etc but so many vairiables out there of the equipmnet maybe thats why they dont..

guess you have to ask your sale rep..

cheers

I agree unless they really don't think it is all that important. I would think defining "loud" would be nearly impossible, as I'm pretty sure that as I've gotten older louder is lower than it used to be or maybe that's just my hearing ;-(

well they could always define it in db.. just need a spl meter... only 45 or so..

cheers
post #9040 of 10043
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Originally Posted by jaffaman View Post

looking at buying some BX6s can anybody recommend these speakers?........will be using them with an ARCAM FMJ19 and AUDIOLAB 3200 CD player.Room is not huge....about 14ft by 12ft........

The other speakers i am considering are the TANNOY REVOLUTION DC6T s.

Any advice would be appreciated thanks.....

Ok im having a demo on Monday of the MONITOR AUDIO BX6s and the TANNOY REVOLUTION DC6Ts......looks like it will be
the BX6s from what people have said about them.

If possible i would like to hear some more comments on the BX6s from those who have them.

Thanks in advance....
post #9041 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Barrok View Post

Oh man, I feel so out of the club... I got the GX300's recently but only the GX150 :P Congrats to you guys though. These speakers are amazing.

Truly amazing and they get better.

Just curious, what are you guys using to power your GX300s/GXC350? Did you opt for an integrated solution or pre/pro?
post #9042 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Luca42 View Post

Truly amazing and they get better.

Just curious, what are you guys using to power your GX300s/GXC350? Did you opt for an integrated solution or pre/pro?

I will be using a Denon 4311 and Emotiva XPA-5. Should sound preety good, as the speakers are not very power hungry and appear efficient.
post #9043 of 10043
Im going to be using a Onkyo tx-nr818.
post #9044 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Luca42 View Post

Truly amazing and they get better.

Just curious, what are you guys using to power your GX300s/GXC350? Did you opt for an integrated solution or pre/pro?

I am using a SC-25 Pioneer Elite. So far its been great.

I will say this though... I do have to turn it up slightly more than I did with my PSB Alpha B1's as main. Not a problem but definitely noticeable.
post #9045 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Barrok View Post

I am using a SC-25 Pioneer Elite. So far its been great.

I will say this though... I do have to turn it up slightly more than I did with my PSB Alpha B1's as main. Not a problem but definitely noticeable.

I should have added that I was recently reading a thread where the consensus was to have as much power as possible. Not MA speakers specifically, but speakers generally. A lot of discussion about 250-500W range from their amps (mostly monoblocks). The description was that having that extra power available made the sound better. Just curious.

And then I read a description of a guy selling his GX300 and how he preferred the sound with a dedicated amp over an integrated unit (Yamaha 3020).

Just curious if anyone's improved the available power by going to a dedicated amp (or bigger amp) and noticed a marked difference (i.e., a wider soundstage, better clarity, better response, etc).
post #9046 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Luca42 View Post

I should have added that I was recently reading a thread where the consensus was to have as much power as possible. Not MA speakers specifically, but speakers generally. A lot of discussion about 250-500W range from their amps (mostly monoblocks). The description was that having that extra power available made the sound better. Just curious.

And then I read a description of a guy selling his GX300 and how he preferred the sound with a dedicated amp over an integrated unit (Yamaha 3020).

Just curious if anyone's improved the available power by going to a dedicated amp (or bigger amp) and noticed a marked difference (i.e., a wider soundstage, better clarity, better response, etc).

Not sure why you need more power that what the speakers require... and how that would make it sound any better. The speakers power handling spec is 100-200 watts (RMS).

As far as dedicated amps sounding better than integrated... that's just a can of worms. You can find people who think power is power and dedicated amps won't affect sound much if any and then you can find dudes who will argue that they can drastically change the sound.. pick your team. Best bet is to test them yourself, preferably blind (have a spouse or friend switch up the cables etc), and see which you like the best.

I will say this. Both places I went to that sold the GX series said my receiver would have no issues. As well as the owner of a high end B&W store.. so if you get these speakers give them a shot with what you currently have to amplify it and if that doesn't sound good to you then try something else!

PS: I believe the reason my receiver has to be turned up more for these new speakers is because they have lower sensitivity than my old speakers... I am not a pro at this so I could be wrong there though :P
post #9047 of 10043
good post.
post #9048 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Barrok View Post

Oh man, I feel so out of the club... I got the GX300's recently but only the GX150 :P Congrats to you guys though. These speakers are amazing.

Was there a reason you opted for the 150? Are you using your setup primarily for HT or 2 channel listening?
post #9049 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Luca42 View Post

Was there a reason you opted for the 150? Are you using your setup primarily for HT or 2 channel listening?

I got an open box deal. I spent $500 (almost 1100 msrp) on the GXC150 and I got a quote for 1350 for an open box GXC350. I couldn't justify the price difference. Stupid money!

Oh, and the answer is "both." I watch a lot of movies with the wife (and occasionally a child). I also have a HSU VTF3 MK4 for sub duties.

But, since I got the speakers I have been listening to a fair share of music as well. I set my receiver to "Pure Direct" which turns off the sub and pretty much everything else and it is just a pleasure to listen to. Hearing instruments in songs I didn't even know existed before lol!
post #9050 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Barrok View Post

Not sure why you need more power that what the speakers require... and how that would make it sound any better. The speakers power handling spec is 100-200 watts (RMS).

As far as dedicated amps sounding better than integrated... that's just a can of worms. You can find people who think power is power and dedicated amps won't affect sound much if any and then you can find dudes who will argue that they can drastically change the sound.. pick your team. Best bet is to test them yourself, preferably blind (have a spouse or friend switch up the cables etc), and see which you like the best.

I will say this. Both places I went to that sold the GX series said my receiver would have no issues. As well as the owner of a high end B&W store.. so if you get these speakers give them a shot with what you currently have to amplify it and if that doesn't sound good to you then try something else!

PS: I believe the reason my receiver has to be turned up more for these new speakers is because they have lower sensitivity than my old speakers... I am not a pro at this so I could be wrong there though :P

Im running GX50s through a Pioneer Elite. Its ridiculous. The Elite pushes those speakers to the limit, and the speakers handle the power extremely well.
post #9051 of 10043
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

i heading out today to listen to some monitor rx8s

along side some paradigm 100s

which will win?

cheers

wow today i listen to the rx8 vs the studio 60.. nad amp.. 150 pure watts / p/ c not jap watts...

both speakers are really good... but the edge went to the studio 60s the rx 8 is kinda muddy in the mid tones.. with a bit more bass at the bottom..

thats my opinion..

heading back tomorrow to do gx 300 vs studio 100
post #9052 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Luca42 View Post

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Originally Posted by Barrok View Post

I am using a SC-25 Pioneer Elite. So far its been great.

I will say this though... I do have to turn it up slightly more than I did with my PSB Alpha B1's as main. Not a problem but definitely noticeable.

I should have added that I was recently reading a thread where the consensus was to have as much power as possible. Not MA speakers specifically, but speakers generally. A lot of discussion about 250-500W range from their amps (mostly monoblocks). The description was that having that extra power available made the sound better. Just curious.

And then I read a description of a guy selling his GX300 and how he preferred the sound with a dedicated amp over an integrated unit (Yamaha 3020).

Just curious if anyone's improved the available power by going to a dedicated amp (or bigger amp) and noticed a marked difference (i.e., a wider soundstage, better clarity, better response, etc).

if you are underpowered can lead to lower sound quality.. and dangerous clipping if you push it.. blowen speakers are much more common from under power vs over power.. your ears can only
take so much eh..
power a limiter on the volume as well..

so if your underpowered and go to over power you will get better sound speakers.. cause your feeding them..

amps should not change sound.... i think even power or slightly above is best match to a speakers rms.. but dont use jap avrs rms as a guide cause the real output is much lower..

mono or 2 channel amps blind test bet you cant tell..

cheers..
post #9053 of 10043
studio 60 and 100 and now being made in Canada again they stopped the production in china about 9 months ago..

the rx8s and gx 300 are chinese made

only the pl line is made in england..
post #9054 of 10043
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

if you are underpowered can lead to lower sound quality.. and dangerous clipping if you push it.. blowen speakers are much more common from under power vs over power.. your ears can only
take so much eh..
power a limiter on the volume as well..

so if your underpowered and go to over power you will get better sound speakers.. cause your feeding them..

amps should not change sound.... i think even power or slightly above is best match to a speakers rms.. but dont use jap avrs rms as a guide cause the real output is much lower..

mono or 2 channel amps blind test bet you cant tell..

cheers..

Hmm, my receiver has been proven to do 110 watts a channel into 5 channels. RMS rating from Monitor Audio is 100-200. I don't think I have a problem, but thanks for your racist and incorrect statements about Japanese made AVR's.
post #9055 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Barrok View Post

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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

if you are underpowered can lead to lower sound quality.. and dangerous clipping if you push it.. blowen speakers are much more common from under power vs over power.. your ears can only
take so much eh..
power a limiter on the volume as well..

so if your underpowered and go to over power you will get better sound speakers.. cause your feeding them..

amps should not change sound.... i think even power or slightly above is best match to a speakers rms.. but dont use jap avrs rms as a guide cause the real output is much lower..

mono or 2 channel amps blind test bet you cant tell..

cheers..

Hmm, my receiver has been proven to do 110 watts a channel into 5 channels. RMS rating from Monitor Audio is 100-200. I don't think I have a problem, but thanks for your racist and incorrect statements about Japanese made AVR's.

the true hurts i guess... not racist at all.. jap recievers or avrs are so way overated in there power outputs its a massive joke.. they should all have hungry american lawyers go after there asses to put
up the real numbers.. not the numbers for marketing..

some how 1 channel driven at 110 w now is 7 channels at 110 watts.. no way.. 770 watt avr.. on the back in north america will have mandatory electrical rating max watt 400...perico

how the hell can you get 770 watts from 400 watts.. IMPOSSIBLE avr create electricity energy crisis solved LOL>.

dream on buddy..
post #9056 of 10043
Had the smart idea of djing with a set of my old monitor BR1's and totally blew up the low end frequencies (the little that it had already). So went down to the local hifi shop and demo'ed a pair of BX2's and they sound amazing for how much they cost. They even sounded better than the RX1's! (perhaps comparing apples to oranges here?) They will be coming in next week since they did not have the walnut color in stock at the time. I currently own a 2 channel NAD C 316BEE amp to pair up with these.

My question is my amp sufficient? It's rated at 40 rms and the BX2's reccomend 30-100 rms. Anyone have experience with this? This will be for 2 channel listening to music. Thanks!
post #9057 of 10043
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

the true hurts i guess... not racist at all.. jap recievers or avrs are so way overated in there power outputs its a massive joke.. they should all have hungry american lawyers go after there asses to put
up the real numbers.. not the numbers for marketing..

some how 1 channel driven at 110 w now is 7 channels at 110 watts.. no way.. 770 watt avr.. on the back in north america will have mandatory electrical rating max watt 400...perico

how the hell can you get 770 watts from 400 watts.. IMPOSSIBLE avr create electricity energy crisis solved LOL>.

dream on buddy..

The term "Jap" is derogative.
post #9058 of 10043
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

the true hurts i guess... not racist at all.. jap recievers or avrs are so way overated in there power outputs its a massive joke.. they should all have hungry american lawyers go after there asses to put
up the real numbers.. not the numbers for marketing..

some how 1 channel driven at 110 w now is 7 channels at 110 watts.. no way.. 770 watt avr.. on the back in north america will have mandatory electrical rating max watt 400...perico

how the hell can you get 770 watts from 400 watts.. IMPOSSIBLE avr create electricity energy crisis solved LOL>.

dream on buddy..

Ok... Since home theater magazine tested it at 111 watts into 5 channels but what ever, you are an obvious troll.
post #9059 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Barrok View Post

I got an open box deal. I spent $500 (almost 1100 msrp) on the GXC150 and I got a quote for 1350 for an open box GXC350. I couldn't justify the price difference. Stupid money!

Oh, and the answer is "both." I watch a lot of movies with the wife (and occasionally a child). I also have a HSU VTF3 MK4 for sub duties.

But, since I got the speakers I have been listening to a fair share of music as well. I set my receiver to "Pure Direct" which turns off the sub and pretty much everything else and it is just a pleasure to listen to. Hearing instruments in songs I didn't even know existed before lol!

Sounds like a great deal! I'm sure the set-up is sweet.

What I have found is that both centers pair well with the entire range of GX speakers.

Same here with the listening to music. Before the MA speakers, my set-up was probably 95% HT. Now I'm probably 50/50 on use. It's amazing what good speakers make you want to do! Enjoy!
post #9060 of 10043
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Originally Posted by Barrok View Post

Not sure why you need more power that what the speakers require... and how that would make it sound any better. The speakers power handling spec is 100-200 watts (RMS).

As far as dedicated amps sounding better than integrated... that's just a can of worms. You can find people who think power is power and dedicated amps won't affect sound much if any and then you can find dudes who will argue that they can drastically change the sound.. pick your team. Best bet is to test them yourself, preferably blind (have a spouse or friend switch up the cables etc), and see which you like the best.

I will say this. Both places I went to that sold the GX series said my receiver would have no issues. As well as the owner of a high end B&W store.. so if you get these speakers give them a shot with what you currently have to amplify it and if that doesn't sound good to you then try something else!

PS: I believe the reason my receiver has to be turned up more for these new speakers is because they have lower sensitivity than my old speakers... I am not a pro at this so I could be wrong there though :P

I have a GX300/GXC350 setup. I did the blind test (as you mentioned) of many speakers and ended up with GX300s, which I had NOT sampled. My last audition was with the GX200s and the PL200s. Personally, I could not discern a major difference justifying the cost difference (between the GX200 and PL200), so I opted for the GX300, even though I had not heard them. I have been very satisfied.

Thanks for your response, but I should clarify. I was intending to buy a new Yamaha AVR to use with these speakers (I've had one since '98 and it's been great), but the newest Aventage (at the time, the 3020) had not been released. I could wait or look at alternatives. The salesman recommended Anthem and other pre/pro combinations. I opted for a McIntosh setup, using the MC205 to power my setup. I have no issues personally.

My limited question was directed towards something I read on another website where users sell high end equipment. A guy there had our speakers (GX300/350s) that he'd purchased at the end of 2012. (I wish I could find the post now, but he must have sold the speakers.) Simply put, he loved the speakers but he noted an aural difference when using a dedicated amp versus an AVR. Since I didn't get to ask him, I thought I'd ask here. Has anyone done this and noted a difference? I'm sure that independently, they sound great, but I'd love to know if anyone has made that direct comparison.
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