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post #121 of 1908
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Originally Posted by gosawx View Post

yeah, it's "stretch" modes are very good, in particular


Thanks! I will be looking into this tv much more. There are so many and i can't seem to choose just one.
post #122 of 1908
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Originally Posted by KNIL SOT View Post

Hey Pop are you just mad b/c your 23" Polaroid can only do 480p..

my neighbor just got the 37" regza w/ the dvd built-in from bby and it looks amazing.
That 12bit is no joke

LOL! I was thinking just that. None of my cameras can take a picture to do the set justice.
post #123 of 1908
even a pic of your setup would be cool though.
post #124 of 1908
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Originally Posted by KNIL SOT View Post

Hey Pop are you just mad b/c your 23" Polaroid can only do 480p..

my neighbor just got the 37" regza w/ the dvd built-in from bby and it looks amazing.
That 12bit is no joke

Let's face it know one believes how great it looks until they see it live. The amazing difference between it and other sets has to been seen to believe.
And then there is "It's only a Toshiba how good can it be."
When Sears came to house to condem my 14 year old RCA I asked them what sets they recommended and they said the Toshibas gave them the least problems. I never told him what sets I liked. Sony, Samsung and Hitachi were next. The Sony's he liked were the ones built with Sammy parts.
post #125 of 1908
I love the design, it's plain black, what all tv's should be i will be looking around for the best price on the 37HL66, seems like it's getting good reviews, now it's between the LG 37LC2D and this.
post #126 of 1908
If SD is important to you, IMHO the Toshiba internal scaler is better than the LG.
post #127 of 1908
Then the Toshiba it is! Thanks for all your help, i'll probably come back with some more questions later though
post #128 of 1908
let us know if you need help...
post #129 of 1908
Just pulled the trigger on the 42HL196. Very happy so far except for one inconsistency. The internal scaler does a very nice job with SD, much better that my 42" Samsung DLP.

One issue:

It did not become obvious until I was watching the US Open over the weekend. It is easy to pick up with large bands of solid colors. There is distinct brightness variation on the sides of the TV. The set is noticeably brighter near the sides. The brighter area extends to about 4" from the sides. It is not a gradual transition. The best way to describe it is that the set looks like it has pillar box burn-in. Once you pick up on it, you can't get it out of your head.

Has anyone experienced this or is it a bad panel, back-lighting issue, etc.

Thanks.
post #130 of 1908
have you tried adjusting the backlight? I think it's at 100% out of the box
post #131 of 1908
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Originally Posted by gosawx View Post

have you tried adjusting the backlight? I think it's at 100% out of the box

I'm using it at "Standard" which is 80% backlight I think.
post #132 of 1908
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Originally Posted by doobydolby View Post

Just pulled the trigger on the 42HL196. Very happy so far except for one inconsistency. The internal scaler does a very nice job with SD, much better that my 42" Samsung DLP.

One issue:

It did not become obvious until I was watching the US Open over the weekend. It is easy to pick up with large bands of solid colors. There is distinct brightness variation on the sides of the TV. The set is noticeably brighter near the sides. The brighter area extends to about 4" from the sides. It is not a gradual transition. The best way to describe it is that the set looks like it has pillar box burn-in. Once you pick up on it, you can't get it out of your head.

Has anyone experienced this or is it a bad panel, back-lighting issue, etc.

Thanks.

Thanks for your PM on this issue. I thought I would post my findings here so every one can see my response. First of all no this is not a design flaw.

I do not have the 42HL196 on my selling floor, but I do have the Cinema series 42LX196, which is the same panel. I do not see any uneven brightness whatsoever.

However, these new high resolution LCDs need a lot of fine tuning calibration to make them look fantastic. I do not think this is your problem, but spend some time on all of the video settings to get the best picture and view the TV with no reflected light on the panel.

Let us know what the end result is.

-Robert
post #133 of 1908
DoobyDolby, Have you been able to resolve the backlight issue? I was in Sear's this week and the 42HL196 looked good to me. I am going to by there today and see if I notice an uneven brightness.

Where, if you dont mind my asking, did you buy the panel?
post #134 of 1908
J/W, but how many of you think you need to get a calibration dvd to make this set acceptable PQ wise?
post #135 of 1908
Does anyone know if the 37HLV66 will be sold at costco?
post #136 of 1908
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Originally Posted by longhorns View Post

J/W, but how many of you think you need to get a calibration dvd to make this set acceptable PQ wise?


It would probably be a good idea to use a calibration DVD for any new TV. They cost around $40 (?) and it's well worth it considering how much you've invested in your new toy.

Just my .02
post #137 of 1908
Robert,

Only under certain conditions, does this condition become apparent. First you need a solid color running from top to bottom and it must extend from the edge inward about 6 inches. Also the color must be bright and cool (no reds). Blue works the best.

I started up Toy Story and paused the Disney logo at the beginning. The screen is entirely blue with the logo in the middle. This is the perfect setup and reproduces the problem as I first noticed it with the blue tennis court surface at the Open.

I am starting to wonder if the problem is related to the antiglare coating and not the panel. The degree of the brightness problem varies as you move around the room.

If you get a chance, please see if you can replicate the problem.

Thanks.
post #138 of 1908
These are sold out on amazon. I want to see a wider range of reviews, which should be coming in the next few weeks. The floor model at sears didnt have the backlight issue you described.

Anybody know where any reviews may have come up?

Thanks

I really like the spec/price range of this set (42HL196) 1925 shipped

2hdmi
ethernet
42"
Toshiba quality
satin black case
post #139 of 1908
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Originally Posted by HannibalTheCanni View Post

These are sold out on amazon. I want to see a wider range of reviews, which should be coming in the next few weeks. The floor model at sears didnt have the backlight issue you described.

Anybody know where any reviews may have come up?

Thanks

I really like the spec/price range of this set (42HL196) 1925 shipped

2hdmi
ethernet
42"
Toshiba quality
satin black case

I watched the TV for 2 days before I picked up on it. Unless you can duplicate the condition at Sears, you won't notice the problem. I will attempt to duplicate the problem at a local store and post my findings. I tried to take a digital picture, but issue doesn't show up in the photo.
post #140 of 1908
Damm, now i'm hesitant, this always happens to me! Well it's not like i'll buy anything anytime soon, but it still gets me wondering if this should be a choice of mine, please report back with any findings.
post #141 of 1908
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Originally Posted by longhorns View Post

Damm, now i'm hesitant, this always happens to me! Well it's not like i'll buy anything anytime soon, but it still gets me wondering if this should be a choice of mine, please report back with any findings.

I think this may be due to a particular unit, and not a design problem. There is no sign of inconsitencies at store.
Prices have gone up on this set

This has got to be the sharpest looking set powered off. It will set off your room where ever it is.

That, along with the perfect size. I am going to keep checking on this one. They wont plug a dvd player up for me, and they have the crappiest wires in that store. 1/2 the TVs have banding real bad, and macroblocking. I told him I could have that store top notched in one week, he laughed. The Regza had a decent feed and showed well, compared to the 40s2000 Sony it was next too.

I decked out a 50,000 sq. ft furniture store with Mitsubishi plasmas (the $5K-$7K series ) Some of the tvs were 200 feet from the source and they are all Crystal Clear . I made my own comp cables with high grade coax I hate talking with some of these people they kind of stress me. (especially the ones who act like they know what they are talking about).

He says "there must be a cut in one of the wires". LOL

Ok I am done.
post #142 of 1908
Quote:
Originally Posted by HannibalTheCanni View Post

These are sold out on amazon. I want to see a wider range of reviews, which should be coming in the next few weeks. The floor model at sears didnt have the backlight issue you described.

Anybody know where any reviews may have come up?

Thanks

I really like the spec/price range of this set (42HL196) 1925 shipped

2hdmi
ethernet
42"
Toshiba quality
satin black case

I see the Amazon price at 2157 plus shipping, which is an OK price, but not the best deal. This is a great TV.

-Robert
post #143 of 1908
Do you sell, or have you seen this tv yourself hooked up to a good source? Your name seems to suggest you may be in the home theater biz. I am still waiting for some more reviews to come in.
post #144 of 1908
So after all this which is a better buy

a 32HLC56 or a 32hl86. I am getting so confused. Please help!!
post #145 of 1908
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Originally Posted by seetobylive View Post

So after all this which is a better buy

a 32HLC56 or a 32hl86. I am getting so confused. Please help!!

Are you from Canada?

If the 86 is like the American 66 series, you get:

ATSC/QAM tuners
channel Browser
favorite browser
channel label
channel return
channel lock
Optical out
Pixelpure Hi-Bit 12 bit video processing
Front panel lock
post #146 of 1908
I am from Canada (Vancouver actually)

I just bought the ...86 but for some reason i just noticed that they gave me the ....56. I can't believe I didn't notice that on the box in the store. Anyway before IO returned it I wanted to make sure that I was not returning a better product for the money.
post #147 of 1908
nope, go exchange it
post #148 of 1908
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Originally Posted by HannibalTheCanni View Post

Do you sell, or have you seen this tv yourself hooked up to a good source? Your name seems to suggest you may be in the home theater biz. I am still waiting for some more reviews to come in.

Yes we are authorized on-line and B&M Toshiba dealers. We have the Cinema Series version of the new 42" LCD HDTV in our showroom, but sell both models as well as the 47" LCD. The 42LX196 is connected to a DIRECTV HD feed and Toshiba's HD-XA1 HD DVD player. The image and audio quality is absolutely terrific.

-Robert
post #149 of 1908
Robert,

Have you tried out my test scenario with a solid blue background yet?

Thanks.
post #150 of 1908
doobydolby, I have tried, but I have not been able to recreate any density variation anywhere on the screen. We even connected an old VCR someone still had at home to get a solid blue screen and it looked terrific and perfectly even vertically and horizontally across the screen.

Regarding the max VGA signal and display resolution, I must tell you it's.....

1024x768

We connected a high end Dell PC I use for web development and using the VGA set at 1024x768 the images looked terrific. Image quality is not just based on the highest resolution.

I also connected from my Dell with a high-end DVI video card, sorry I can't remember which card it is and the image looked almost exactly the same as the 1024x768 VGA connection.

-Robert
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