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post #211 of 1908
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Originally Posted by wpwj40e
Or you can just purchase one of the two new LCD's that Toshiba just announced that appear to not accept 1080p - but do so without overscan and using 1:1 pixel mapping. Additionally a PC port....

It's the LZ series...Shipping now...

Link to info about these new sets, please?
post #212 of 1908
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Originally Posted by lorenzow View Post

Therese,

"appear to NOT accept 1080p"? Is that a typo? The announcement for the new HD-DVD player states:

Yes a TYPO. Gonna go fix. Thanks


Should be to NOW accept 1080p!
Thanks
Therese
post #213 of 1908
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

Link to info about these new sets, please?

Posted this earlier...You must have missed

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=723607

Therese
post #214 of 1908
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Originally Posted by wpwj40e
Or you can just purchase one of the two new LCD's that Toshiba just announced that appear to not accept 1080p - but do so without overscan and using 1:1 pixel mapping. Additionally a PC port....

It's the LZ series...Shipping now......

Therese

Where can I find info on the LZ.A google search didn't turn up anything.

Probably should have posted this in this thread. Just didn't think clearly at the time Sorry...Here it is:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=723607

Therese
post #215 of 1908
Thanks,Therese-
post #216 of 1908
The Toshiba product announcements can be found here.
post #217 of 1908
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lorenzow View Post

The Toshiba product announcements can be found here.

Wow, the new Cinema Series Pro, and they are priced almost the same as the LX196 series.

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CEDIA, DENVER, CO - SEPTEMBER 14, 2006
TOSHIBA ADDS NEW CINEMA SERIES PRO FLAGSHIP MODELS TO REGZA LINE OF PREMIUM LCD TVS
Cinema Series Pro LCD TVs offer 1080p Full HD resolution, advanced PixelPure Hi-Bit 12-bit digital video processing, fast CineSpeed LCD Panel technology, new sleek high-gloss black cabinetry, and innovative picture enhancement technology to set a new standard for Toshiba and the Industry
At the CEDIA show today, Toshiba America Consumer Products, L.L.C. ("Toshiba") announced the addition of two new, state-of-the-art Cinema Series Pro models to its premium line of REGZA LCD TVs. Cinema Series Pro models represent the highest quality high definition TVs in Toshiba's line, and set the new standard for consumers who demand the best in TV technology.

"Cinema Series Pro is designed to set the new standard for premium HDTV," said Scott Ramirez, Vice President of Marketing. "Its spectacular 1080p full HD picture quality is truly second to none, and the new high-gloss black cabinetry makes a bold statement in any room. In both performance and design, Cinema Series Pro will become the one to watch."

Toshiba Cinema Series Pro - Best Class in Design and Performance
As part of the REGZA line, Cinema Series Pro models feature the new PixelPure Hi-Bit 12-Bit digital video processing with 4,096 levels of gradation for 16 times the gradation levels of standard 8-bit systems, and cleaner, more natural images. They also include new CineSpeed LCD panels with a fast response speed of 8ms or less and a wide 176 degree viewing angle, as well as Toshiba's new ColorMaster Pro color management system. ColorMaster Pro provides hue, saturation and brightness control of six individual colors, plus three user-selectable colors, to create deep natural colors for increased depth and more realistic images. Cinema Series Pro models also include Toshiba's new Native Mode, which provides clean 1080p pixel-for-pixel display without any scaling or overscanning.

Cinema Series Pro models come equipped with ATSC/QAM digital tuning, which enables the sets to receive both digital terrestrial and digital cable-in-the-clear broadcasts. In addition, the new models offer complete jack packs that include a PC Input and dual HDMI inputs for a direct digital connection to an A/V source device such as a digital cable box or satellite receiver. Cinema Series Pro models also include Discrete IR codes with an IR pass-through port, and an IR Input port for system integration.

Toshiba Cinema Series Pro LCD TVs also include a CableCARD slot and TV Guide On Screen® for digital cable ready (DCR) capability and HD Window POP. These models also feature Toshiba's innovative THINC RJ-45 network capability, allowing consumers to connect the TV to a PC and view their JPEG picture files, or listen to their MP3 audio files, using only the TV remote.

Cinema Series Pro models feature exclusive and striking high-gloss black cabinetry that brings elegance and style to any living room. As part of the Cinema Series® line, the two new models include Toshiba's unrivaled SoundStrip speaker technology, enabling modern compact cabinetry without sacrificing big home theater sound. Cinema Series Pro sets also include SRS® WOW and Virtual Dolby® technology offering superior sound quality that gives the user the feeling of using a surround sound system without having one. Both TVs come equipped with Toshiba's new 6-item Illuminated home theater universal remote control.

Expected Pricing and Expected Availability
42LZ196 ($3,399.99, September 2006)
47LZ196 ($4,599.99, September 2006)
post #218 of 1908
Hello,

Can anyone who has 42HL196 or 42LX196 confirm that these two units can be hooked up to a computer screen and has a resolution of 1900x1200 @60 Hz?

Many thanks
post #219 of 1908
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Originally Posted by yatko View Post

Hello,

Can anyone who has 42HL196 or 42LX196 confirm that these two units can be hooked up to a computer screen and has a resolution of 1900x1200 @60 Hz?

Many thanks

Anyone who confirms that must be mistaken.
post #220 of 1908
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Originally Posted by lorenzow View Post

Anyone who confirms that must be mistaken.


So are these are 1366x768 @60 Hz via D-Sub then?

Thanks
post #221 of 1908
I'd also like some settings to start out with, since my calibration disc cannot be used when viewing my regular my regular cable.
post #222 of 1908
How does everyone like the 42HL196?
post #223 of 1908
afghan66

As per my recent post I recently replaced a malfunctioning Toshiba 42HP95 plasma with the 42HL196. To be honest, I am a bit dissappointed with the way the unit handles moving objects within the picture frame and I'm not talking about high speed either. They blur ever so slightly but it is still noticable, especially with HD programming. On HD programming the edges of images appear a bit fuzzy as well, but it's the slight blur that is most troubling to me. HD does not appear to "pop" like with my plasma. Of course, my HP95 plasma did not encounter that problem at all. I saw a floor display of the HL196 in a Sears store and that unit did not appear to have either of these issues that I noticed. Black levels are typical of LCDs as well but can be adjusted via the picture setting menu. Connectivity and features are great. I hope this helps.
post #224 of 1908
YATKO, This can be found on the bottom of Page 5 of this thread.

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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post


Regarding the max VGA signal and display resolution, I must tell you it's.....

1024x768

We connected a high end Dell PC I use for web development and using the VGA set at 1024x768 the images looked terrific. Image quality is not just based on the highest resolution.

I also connected from my Dell with a high-end DVI video card, sorry I can't remember which card it is and the image looked almost exactly the same as the 1024x768 VGA connection.

-Robert
post #225 of 1908
I've been lurking in these forums for over a month now. Last week I pulled the trigger on the Toshiba 42HL196, and I think it is time I contributed to the discussion.

This is my first HDTV and my first TV over 28", so some of these opinions may be influenced by the fact that I'm simply not used to watching HD on a large TV on a regular basis. But I think this panel looks fantastic. I'm watching mostly clear QAM signals and I am really impressed by the picture quality. SD programming looks considerably better than on a friend's 50" plasma. Maybe the smaller size is helping that observation, but even compared to the HD content, the SD looks decent. The set is mounted over my fireplace, and even my wife was forced to admit that it looks pretty sweet up there, even when it is turned off.

It isn't all roses though. I've noticed a similar issue that DoobyDolby mentioned on post 129 of this thread. The panel seems slightly brighter at the extreme left and right sides. It is most apparent when there is a solid color onscreen. I noticed it during football games when the camera pans over open grass. It is pretty faint, but once you see it is easy to pick out if the conditions are right. Adjusting the backlight doesn't help. (Any update on your situation, doobydolby?)

I am also getting some intermittent buzzing from the internal speakers. It seems like it is caused by certain audio tones, but I haven't been able to reproduce it consistently yet.

I hope it is just a defect in this particular panel and not a problem with the whole line, because otherwise I'm really happy with the purchase. I'd probably just ignore the brighness issue, but the speaker problem is unacceptable. Unfortunately the return policy where I purchased it states that any post-delivery defects are the responsibility of the manufacturer, so I have to contact Toshiba directly. Does anyone have any idea what I might expect from them?

The max computer input resolution of 1028x780 seems arbitary and pointless. I'm using it as a monitor for my laptop right now and it looks pretty good from 8 feet. I just wish it would do widescreen without stretching. I'm hoping that I can get full performance out of it over an HDMI connection when I get a new computer next month.

I would still recommend that anyone interested in this panel strongly consider purchasing it, because the picture really does look great. Just make sure you buy it from someplace that has a decent return policy, as it seems there are at least a few duds out there.

-MDR
post #226 of 1908
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Originally Posted by mdr25 View Post

I am also getting some intermittent buzzing from the internal speakers. It seems like it is caused by certain audio tones, but I haven't been able to reproduce it consistently yet.

You should be able to hear a buzzing sound as you adjust the backlight. Anything less than 100% should produce a buzzing in the back of the TV.
This is not a feature, it is a known problem with cheaply designed LCD TV's.
This does not occur on Sony LCD TV's.
post #227 of 1908
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Originally Posted by Nascar Dog View Post

You should be able to hear a buzzing sound as you adjust the backlight. Anything less than 100% should produce a buzzing in the back of the TV.
This is not a feature, it is a known problem with cheaply designed LCD TV's.
This does not occur on Sony LCD TV's.

The buzz is very intermittent. I only heard it a few times until last night, when it was almost constant during the last 2 minutes of House (something about the closing song hitting the right tones, I suppose). I haven't heard it since. Also, the volume of the buzz varies with the TV volume, so I don't believe it is related to the cheap backlight shielding problem. But I'm not an expert so I don't really know. Any follow-up thoughts are appreciated.
post #228 of 1908
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Originally Posted by mdr25 View Post

The buzz is very intermittent. I only heard it a few times until last night, when it was almost constant during the last 2 minutes of House (something about the closing song hitting the right tones, I suppose). I haven't heard it since. Also, the volume of the buzz varies with the TV volume, so I don't believe it is related to the cheap backlight shielding problem. But I'm not an expert so I don't really know. Any follow-up thoughts are appreciated.

If it is intermittent, perhaps it is source related.
post #229 of 1908
It's great!!! I'd like to compare settings with someone who has this set (or the 42lx196).
using an old Panny dvd (non progressive) and it looks pretty darn good just via component cables.
I'm looking to get a good upconverting dvd player...any suggestions...???
post #230 of 1908
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Originally Posted by sporky11 View Post

It's great!!! I'd like to compare settings with someone who has this set (or the 42lx196).
using an old Panny dvd (non progressive) and it looks pretty darn good just via component cables.
I'm looking to get a good upconverting dvd player...any suggestions...???

Could you plug it into a PC and let us know if it does 1366 x 768 @ Hz or 1920x1080 @ 60Hz?

Thanks
post #231 of 1908
I just got a 32HLC56. From what I understand it's the same panel as a 66
minus tuner and a few other convenience items. Is this true?

BTW, I actually returned the first one because of a pronounced vertical
banding at the left side of the screen. The replacement seems better, but
still has an occaisional banding issue closer to the middle of the screen.
This banding occurs when theres fast action horizontally across the screen.
Like a punt or kickoff in football or a long outfield play in baseball. Is it likely
that any of these sets will exhibit this anomally to a certain degree? I think the
picture is awesome aside from that.
post #232 of 1908
I may not be the person you're looking for, but I can try to put in a little something. I agree that the regular SD cable channels look horrid. I'm trying to call Charter Digital Cable tommorow to see if there is anything I can do about that or else I'll be calling DirectTV. Anyway, thanks for the settings to try out. It's certainly not the television, since upconverted DVDs on the 360 through VGA and videogames are looking fantastic. But, again, thanks.
post #233 of 1908
On mine the SD looked good, but once I got Cox HD the HD was (is) amazing but now throught the HD box SD sucks.
post #234 of 1908
So, this set doesn't accept 1080p as an input, it will just display it (meaning upscale, I'm guessing). So, with the Xbox 360 update that is being released in the fall, does that mean that my set will upscale the signal to 1080p or am I stuck with 1080i? Is that the same if I ever hook up a an HD-DVD player to this set? Will it just upconvert it to 1080p or stick with 1080i?
post #235 of 1908
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Originally Posted by sporky11 View Post

It's great!!! I'd like to compare settings with someone who has this set (or the 42lx196).
using an old Panny dvd (non progressive) and it looks pretty darn good just via component cables.
I'm looking to get a good upconverting dvd player...any suggestions...???


why not go for it and get an HD-A1, it lookks like you can pick up and HD DVD for about $400 at various places...
post #236 of 1908
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Originally Posted by Cane Dewey View Post

So, this set doesn't accept 1080p as an input, it will just display it (meaning upscale, I'm guessing). So, with the Xbox 360 update that is being released in the fall, does that mean that my set will upscale the signal to 1080p or am I stuck with 1080i? Is that the same if I ever hook up a an HD-DVD player to this set? Will it just upconvert it to 1080p or stick with 1080i?


the word you want is "deinterlace", not "upconvert" upconverting requires the device to add additional information. All you do when going from 1080i to 1080p is "reassemble" the frames to acheive a picture indistinguishable from the original source
post #237 of 1908
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Originally Posted by Cane Dewey View Post

So, this set doesn't accept 1080p as an input, it will just display it (meaning upscale, I'm guessing). So, with the Xbox 360 update that is being released in the fall, does that mean that my set will upscale the signal to 1080p or am I stuck with 1080i? Is that the same if I ever hook up a an HD-DVD player to this set? Will it just upconvert it to 1080p or stick with 1080i?

If you feed this set a 1080p signal it will not pass it through and display it; you'll get no picture or distortion. You'll have to adjust your 1080p source (Blue-Ray, PS3, computer, XBox 360, etc.) down to 1080i or 720p for your Toshiba LCD to accept it and upconvert it to 1920x1080 resolution. The Toshiba HD-A1 decks on the market right now output 1080i so they (or any upconverting DVD player that outputs 1080i or 720p) will be perfect for your new LCD TV.
post #238 of 1908
Crosby,

I'm at work right now so I don't have access to the settings. I haven't calibrated it with a DVD (yet, maybe next weekend?) but the settings you listed are not dramatically different than mine. I can tell my colors are still off a tiny bit (my wife thinks I'm crazy), but I've given up trying to improve it without using a calibration disc and some filters.

My analog cable channels look pretty crappy, too, but I think it is because my coax is garbage. The digital channels all look great, even the ones broadcasting SD. Analog SD channels from my $30 RCA indoor antenna look similar to my old set (fuzzy due to poor reception). OTA HD digital channels look amazing, way better than I was expecting and at least as good as the cable. I have no reason to suspect that the analog tuner in the Toshiba is lousy, I just think I'm feeding it a bad signal.

Haven't heard any buzzing since Tuesday, maybe it was source related.

Atye wrote:
"This banding occurs when theres fast action horizontally across the screen.
Like a punt or kickoff in football or a long outfield play in baseball."

I think it is happening anyway, it is just only noticible when there is somewhat uniform color being displayed. When the camera is fixed over a patch of grass, you can't see the banding because it is indistinguishable from natural variations in light over the field. But when it pans, the banding is more obvious because the band doesn't move with the camera. If you put a true solid color it is easier to see. Someone mentioned using an old VCR that displays blue, I used my computer to display a uniform dark green. My band is only on the right side, about 2" away from the edge. Again, it is very subtle, and I wonder if I'd have noticed it at all if I hadn't read about DoobyDolby's problem. I've contacted Toshiba about it, I'll report their response when I hear from them.
post #239 of 1908
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Originally Posted by gosawx View Post

why not go for it and get an HD-A1, it lookks like you can pick up and HD DVD for about $400 at various places...

Not in Canada...it's on sale at BB now for %599 can.
S U C K S
post #240 of 1908
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Originally Posted by reincarnate View Post

Turn down the backlight in the menu and you have a picture that is a window into the scene. It is beautiful to behold. Colors are among the most natural as compared to all the oversaturated crap out there. The 1920 resolution is all there too. I could live with this a picture for a long, long time. For those who don't like the Sharps, Westinghouse or no-brand name panels. I like it better overall than even the Samsungs.

I guess people do not know how to recognize exceptional quality when they see it. But if it had a Sony nameplate (and was priced $1200 more) we would have 347 pages of conjunctive drivel.
Go take a look at BB Magnolia. It is worthy of your time

Great post....what exactly is the purpose of the backlight anyways?? It should be turned down to say 50???
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