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post #691 of 1908
exactly. I think I saw this week what people were talking about-- about lcd's having an issue properly displaying fps .. there was a sharp 52' aqaous that is supposed to take 1080p and it was running on a blu ray player... it looked sharp, but it looked like it was having major issues running @ at least 24 frames per second. I WOULD HATE to spend the money for something that I expect to look decent to have it look the way I saw the sharp lcd.

For me---- I can spend a few hundred more and buy the 46inch Samsung 95 model that supports 1080p and has a brighter screen--- then it's a good decision. I know the samsung doesn't have as many options in regard to fine tuning, but I own a samsung DLP and can certainly live with what it can dish out.
post #692 of 1908
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Originally Posted by moose1975 View Post

I have had my 42hl196 for two months. I had the ghost bar problem. I had purchased through Sears, so I went through their home service (after calling Toshiba and getting responses others have here). They localized the problem through their tech center in Texas to the digital board. It arrived in about a week and they returned and installed. No more ghost bars. The tech did not say if there was a known problem/revision. Took a look inside and it is very clean construction. I would have bet $$$ it was the lcd. Good luck in getting rid of the ghosts.

Hi

I would like to know your serial number please? I have a 42HL196 and can't be sure if I have the ghost bar problem or not. Maybe it was a batch with a defect. Sometimes I think I see it and then I can't. Any help is appreciated. I got my set at Best Buy. Where can I locate the sears paople who know how to fix the problem?

Thank You
post #693 of 1908
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Originally Posted by ghostboy88 View Post

ive heard the "cable box theory" before concerning the ghostbars and i can assure you that its not the box connected to my set. i also get the ghostbars when playing dvds. in fact, i use the light blue disney logo at the begining of beauty and the beast to show the repairmen who come by to check out the problem exactly what is happening. and speaking of that, ive now had four different guys come by to check this problem out, two from best buy and two from a authorized toshiba repair shop, and in all cases its been the same thing-they tell me theyve never seen it, have no idea what to do, tell me they'll look into it and get back to me and than, never call back. this has been a frickin nightmare. the damn tv is only two months old and im stuck with it...i find it completely absurd that i may have to send it in to get repaired already. long story short, both best buy and toshiba should be ashamed of themselves and in a nutshell they both suck.

Ghost

Please post a pic of the disney screen so I can see if I have the same problem. I don't want to be surprised after my warranty runs out.
Thanks
post #694 of 1908
I'm after a 1080p HDTV that offers 1080p via VGA and component without the over scanning crap issues that Samsung have. Sony can't offer 1080p via VGA and Component so they are not an option but how does the Toshiba 47" 47LX196 hold up (as in PQ when running with the Sammy and Sony sets), as well as with 1080p via component, VGA and HDMI?
post #695 of 1908
My serial # is am322007057. Since I bought at sears, I just used the 1-800-4my-home service number. These guys have their act together. I did house calls 10 yrs ago and I wish I had their equipment. All the calls lined up with gps. Mobile network out of their truck to access parts/support. I wish I had paid more attention to the numbers on the part box. It definitely said "digital board." Having had a look into the inside of this set, it pretty much is the only digital board.
post #696 of 1908
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Originally Posted by CH49 View Post

My son is 10 weeks old too! I'll tell you that his eyes get huge when I turn the TV to something colorful, like a basketball or football game. I think it fascinates him, but of course I've been nagged that it's terrible for him (??)

On the TV Guide thing - I was hoping to use it with a cable card, but I dont think it works that way - it seems to need to override a cable box through that wire that's included. If I'm wrong about this, then someone please correct me, cause I'm ordering an HD box today.


They work fine with the CableCard, provided your cable provider gets it tattooed on their forehead that you don't want their crappy damn set top box, and that you remind them of the FCC's mandate that they HAVE to get it working. Otherwise, they'll try to foist a Set Top Box on you every time you call your cable provider.

10 months of deaing with a cable card in a Toshiba 37HL95 and now a 42HL196 with TWC in their Los Angeles market leaves me convinced that they are doing a piss poor job of supporting it, but Cable Card does work with TV's that have the Cable Card slot. You just need to force or wear down the cable company to get them off their ass to make it work as it is supposed to.
post #697 of 1908
New question: does anyone have the Toshiba 37lx96? Comments, please (can't find in "search).
post #698 of 1908
picked up a 26hlv66 any ISF or avia calibrated settings recommendations?

Very impressed by this set so far even with my own person preference settings.
post #699 of 1908
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Originally Posted by ea77 View Post

picked up a 26hlv66 any ISF or avia calibrated settings recommendations?

Very impressed by this set so far even with my own person preference settings.

Same I got mine last night. I love it so far. I can't seem to find where to label the channels though? The website says it supports channel labeling though.
post #700 of 1908
I have had a 26HLV66 for a little over a week now. Only HD source right now is UHF antenna.

Annoying thing is on all inputs I am frequently getting bluish/purplish flesh colors. Lips look purple, yet when the scene changes it may not be bad at all. But, it has gotten to the point that it is playing tricks with my mind.

I have tried various color/tint adjustments, but without a lot of luck. Has anybody else noticed this? I know Consumer Reports indicated a bluishness, is that what I am experiencing?
post #701 of 1908
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Originally Posted by Tuan View Post

Same I got mine last night. I love it so far. I can't seem to find where to label the channels though? The website says it supports channel labeling though.

Same here!

Cannot find a way to lable channels.
post #702 of 1908
not sure if it's the channel label. but i think you press a home key looks like a house at the bottom left of the remote and you get some sort of channel guide that pops up at the bottom. either that or that feature did not make it into the production version of the TV. Didn't play with the TV too much (got it for the in-laws) don't want to grow too attached to it, but was rather impressed by the LCD (didn't notice any sluggishness or artifacting in the non action movie I was watching).

Considering this Toshiba's are about 25% cheaper than than competition, wasn't expecting it to be the best but really was impressed. Excellent value from an inhouse developed TV!
post #703 of 1908
Just bought a Toshiba 42hl196 for the second floor bedroom, and had Cablevision install cablecard. No banding issues. TVGOS works great. Picture is great on digital and HDTV channels, not so hot on analog channels. The supervisor at Cablevision has this model himself, and says it has a far better picture with cablecard than cablebox, as he has used both with it. So I encourage all of you using a cablebox to consider switching to cablecard if you want the best hdtv picture possible. Will post more as I learn more about any issues. One issue is that channels 702(CBSHD) and 713(PBSHS) dont come in right, all tile blocks and signal meter turns red. Only on these two channels, and my other Toshiba 37hl95 located on the first floor with cablecard never has this problem. Cablevision is sending a lead tech out to check out the wiring of the jack, but I doubt that is the issue as I have tried another jack on the second floor to no avail. Do any of you have this problem, or have any suggestions? I have tried it through a Cablevision amplifier at the splitter as well as no amplifier and two different jacks on the second floor.
post #704 of 1908
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Originally Posted by ea77 View Post

picked up a 26hlv66 any ISF or avia calibrated settings recommendations?

Very impressed by this set so far even with my own person preference settings.

I've had the 26hl66 for 3 weeks now and love it with 2 reservations:

1. The advertised viewing angle is ~174 degrees. I find a pretty good dropoff in vividness at any point beyond a 45 degree point from center, so I find a usable viewing range of 90 degrees. This doesn't really come into play in my situation as I put the TV in a built-in bookcase in my den. There are only two seats, both in the sweet spot.

2. The StableSound feature is virtually useless, whether it's audio from channel to channel or commercial to program within the same channel. I find the same variances that other TVs have.

Like others have posted before, I find it odd that Toshiba has a picture control (Back Light) that doesn't appear to do anything. Has anyone figured out how it might work in combination with any other of the picture settings? I've done quite a bit of playing with it and haven't seen any obvious effect.
post #705 of 1908
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Originally Posted by ridgefamus View Post

Like others have posted before, I find it odd that Toshiba has a picture control (Back Light) that doesn't appear to do anything. Has anyone figured out how it might work in combination with any other of the picture settings? I've done quite a bit of playing with it and haven't seen any obvious effect.

The backlight control on my 42HL196 definitely has an effect. If I crank up the backlight, the TV physically hurts my eyes. It is just too bright, especially if the room is dark. It doesn't really change the color saturation (maybe the blacks get a little bluer), but the whole thing gives off more light, like staring at a 50 watt bulb vs. 150.

Maybe on the smaller models it isn't as noticible because the screen doesn't fill as much of your field of view? Try adjusting it in a dark room, and keep in mind that like contrast and brightness, you won't notice much of a difference between, say, 99 and 100. But 25 and 100 should look quite different. If you really can't see a difference, maybe your backlight is out. But if you are happy with the overall picture I wouldn't worry about it.

I agree with your comments on the viewing angle. Looks pretty good up to 45 degs off center, and then the quality drops but it is still watchable up to almost 90.
post #706 of 1908
I notice an electrical smell from my new Toshiba 42HL196. It reminds me of a lcd monitor I have that does the same thing. It permeates the bedroom where its placed. Have other noticed it and will it ever go away?
post #707 of 1908
Just took my 26hl66 up to the bedroom to see if that screen size would be appropriate and to determine how good an OTA signal I get up there. I disconnected it from the Comcast box I had it hooked to in the den but don't want to have to get another STB for the bedroom. Upon connecting the coax from the wall in the bedroom (to utilize the QAM tuner in the set), it dawned on me that there was no way to add an OTA antenna at the same time.

Just using Antenna A as my source, the OTA signals were too weak to pull in anything. I have a Silver Sensor and would like to be able to switch to that for my "A" source but also have the option to change to cable/QAM. Should I use a switchable splitter? Or am I being too picky about getting OTA and be satisfied with what the QAM pulls out of the wall for my HD programming? Are there any other combinations of leads or something I'm missing in hooking this up?

mdr25: Thanks for your input. I'll take some time to view and play with backlight in dark settings.
post #708 of 1908
ridgefamus... I don't know about Comcast, but we are looking at getting this set for use with DirecTV (SD & HD) and HD OTA. We will feed an OTA cable into the back of the DirecTV box and also have a cable from the dish into the back of the box. Then one HDMI (or component) connection to the 26HL66. The box handles it all in one guide. We could also have the box connected the same way, and have the OTA cable into the Ant. connector, but then we'd have to change TV inputs.

Is your Comcast box capable to do that? Or, does it not have any other output than RF cable to the TV? If not, then some kind of external switching (that I'm not up on) would be the only other choice I can see.

Good Luck!
post #709 of 1908
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Originally Posted by BK EH View Post

ridgefamus... I don't know about Comcast, but we are looking at getting this set for use with DirecTV (SD & HD) and HD OTA. We will feed an OTA cable into the back of the DirecTV box and also have a cable from the dish into the back of the box. Then one HDMI (or component) connection to the 26HL66. The box handles it all in one guide. We could also have the box connected the same way, and have the OTA cable into the Ant. connector, but then we'd have to change TV inputs.

Is your Comcast box capable to do that? Or, does it not have any other output than RF cable to the TV? If not, then some kind of external switching (that I'm not up on) would be the only other choice I can see.

Good Luck!

Thanks for the input. Comcast output options from the Moto 6200 box are component, composite, S-video and DVI. So there is no coax out to use to wire it to the Tosh coax/ANT in. I've been using the component while it's been in the den environment. (I have the Moto 3416 DVR for my main room viewing.)

But I'm trying to avoid using any box at all in the bedroom and make the best use of the OTA tuners built into the TV. But those tuners (ATSC and NTSC) seem to want a stronger signal. I can provide it but if I do, my utilization of the QAM tuner goes away, unless I do some kind of split and switching, or am missing something obvious. I was just wondering if anyone has performed such a feat and what the best means might be.
post #710 of 1908
I have a 26HLV66. Trying to delete unneeded channels that were added automatically during the initial scan. I went to the Channel Add/Delete as described in the manual, unchecked all the undesired channels and clicked Done. However, when I then do the Channel Up/Down on the remote, all the scanned channels remain. I have tried every combination of checking and unchecking of the boxes, but still all the channels remain in the Up/Down.

Is there anything I'm missing here?
post #711 of 1908
Gindie...I'm taking a stab here, because I don't have the set yet, but isn't there a 'favorite channels surfed' aspect to that remote, that remembers all you surfed when it's "on?" They may not be cleared out -- mght have something to do with it.

Also... what do you think of the built-in DVD player of your unit? How's does the upconverted 720p DVD picture look? I am in a toss-up between it and the HL66 because my .com source has just an 80 buck upcharge for the HLV66.

Thanks!
post #712 of 1908
Sound and Vision gave the Toshiba 47LZ196 the cover for Jan 2007 calling the set a "Feast for the Eyes" and a Screen Gem"
post #713 of 1908
[quote=Cattledog]Sound and Vision gave the Toshiba 47LZ196 the cover for Jan 2007 calling the set a "Feast for the Eyes" and a Screen Gem" [/QUOTE
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That's interesting, considering that Home Theater magazine reviewed the Toshiba 42LX196 in the January 07' issue and found that the unit failed in its measured resolution at 480p (measuring only 470), 720p (620) and at 1080i (970), perhaps "because high-frequency noise can be more noticeable on a 1080p panel and Toshiba may have made a conscious decision to roll off the high frequencies to render a cleaner picture", as theorized by the reviewer.
However, the Toshiba exhibited excellent gray-scale tracking after calibration as well as color points that were very close to those specified by SMPTE.
At its minimum backlight setting, the 42LX196 achieved a black level of 0.049 ft-L with a 0-IRE field and about 34 ft-L with a 100-IRE field, compared to the Sony KDL-46XBR2, which measured at 0.018 ft-L and about 24 ft-L....So, in other words,, at minimum backlight setting, which is where all LCDs achieve their best black levels, expect the Sony to be significantly "blacker" than the Toshiba, although not quite as bright...
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Marcos
post #714 of 1908
Marcos, those 2 sets aren't even the same line! Your post references the 42""X" line. Sound and Vision reviewed the 47" "Z" line big difference. Do some research. Geez!??????????
post #715 of 1908
Cattledog, no need to get so defensive : after all the title of the thread is "the official 2006 Toshiba Regza LCD HDTV thread"; Wouldn't that also include the "X" line ? Are you that well informed about Toshiba HDTVs to state that the "Z" line and the "X" line use different panels and video processing chips ?
Likewise, do some research as well, and relax, Geez !?????????
post #716 of 1908
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Originally Posted by Cattledog View Post

Sound and Vision gave the Toshiba 47LZ196 the cover for Jan 2007 calling the set a "Feast for the Eyes" and a Screen Gem"

Looking forward for my Jan. issue of Sound and Vision to arrive so I can read the review. I recently purchased this set and have been very happy with it.
post #717 of 1908
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Originally Posted by BK EH View Post

Gindie...
Also... what do you think of the built-in DVD player of your unit? How's does the upconverted 720p DVD picture look? I am in a toss-up between it and the HL66 because my .com source has just an 80 buck upcharge for the HLV66.

Thanks!

BK,

Thanks for the suggestion about the channels issue.

As for the DVD, I think it looks great, and having it integrated sure saves space.
post #718 of 1908
I have a brand new Toshiba 42hl196 with cablecard that loses all the channels after its turned off a few hours. Toshiba say it has the latest firmware and cant help. Cablevision has done all they can. I must return it to Best Buy unless someone can help. Do any of you have success with this or any similar model using a cable card?
post #719 of 1908
I haven't noticed exactly what you're describing but I do have a related issue. I run a dual tuner sat receiver with the second tuner running to my Toshiba. At present it's through antenna 2. For this to work antenna 2 has to be set to cable in the config. Every once and a while the tv will loose the cable setting and revert back to antenna. Very annoying. Not sure if it's an issue with the set or not but sounds similar to you problem in that it's loosing configured settings.
post #720 of 1908
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Originally Posted by wtbrowN View Post

I have a brand new Toshiba 42hl196 with cablecard that loses all the channels after its turned off a few hours. Toshiba say it has the latest firmware and cant help. Cablevision has done all they can. I must return it to Best Buy unless someone can help. Do any of you have success with this or any similar model using a cable card?

I have had mine for about 7 weeks now. Using a cablecard with Charter and have not had the problems you are having.
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