Klipsch owner thread - Page 353

sweet deal i just upgraded myself to the 1020 pioneer, and love it.

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I wonder if you can even get the original still?

I have a different crossover in my center LaScala than I do in the L and R. It still sounded wonderfully seamless when I added it in the mix. Sure, technically there will be slight diffences, but it's not presenting itself as an issue in my room. I bet the same would be true for your 62's.

I have a set of KL-650THX mains. lately my left channel has started making a mechanical rattle at around 70Hz. It disappears when I put my hand firmly on the horn. My dealer advised to open them up and check a foam' seal between the driver and horn. Anybody opened these up? How can I get to the driver?

I had one of mine open. Use a star driver to remove the aluminum plate first. There is a thin paper gasket between the aluminum and the wood. Then remove the series of allen wrench bolts that hold the horn into the cabinet. There is a gasket around where the drivers touch wood.

I had a buzz happening in mine too. Ended up replacing the entire horn and driver. I'm not sure, but I think I damaged the horn by playing loud with a receiver that couldn't handle the impedence dips.

In other words, I'm doubtful that a gasket is your issue. What are you powering yours with?

I used to drive them with a Denon AVR-4308 receiver. Now I use Behringer EP4000. I crossed them at 90Hz back then, and only noticed the rattle when I ran measurement sweeps. The thing is, the rattle goes away when I press the horn, wich suggest a mechanical issue to me, not a blown driver.

Good point. Doesn't sound like underpowering is an issue.

My memory is that the gasket behind the horn is very similar to weather stripping used on doors, windows, etc.

If you want, sent me a PM with your email address and I'll send you some photos of mine opened up.

They can be found... but it's getting more difficult. I bought from an auction (w/ Klipsch warranty) that offered the RF-62, but was sent the II. The seller was surprised that the new one was sent (from Klipsch IIRC). He's working to get me an original model, but if I won't notice the difference in sound, I don't mind the difference in appearance as it will be behind a screen anyway.

I may just give it a shot. The whole idea of me selling the RC-62 was to get a perfect match

Are you talking about having 3 RF-62s up front with one being a "II" version, or are you talking about an RC-62II to mate with your original RF-62s? Either way it probably won't be a significant difference and if you have an EQ program in your avr it may help balance things out. Otoh, it's pure speculation on my part and everyone hears things differently...If you have both speakers can you hook them up and compare?

EDIT: If you wanted to find a pair of RF-62s in the used market they should be abundent and at a good price.

The RF-62 II would serve as a center channel speaker behind and AT screen. I sent the seller an e-mail last night to see if it would be an issue if I gave it a try as I haven't opened the box yet.

I just got this response from Klipsch, so I'll give it a try!

I am thinking there's not much difference in the lower end reference series and them bringing back the RF-7s and getting the RC-64 voice matched is where the improvement over the previous Reference is going to be.

I hooked up the RF-62 II last night and watched a couple movies and it sounds just fine with the regular RF-62's. I'm not a huge fan of the new feet, but I shouldn't have to move this around nor will it be seen. Thanks for the help all!

So how do the new Klipsch IIs compare to the older Klipsch models. I heard they have diffrent crossovers. What does everyone think of the new "sound"?

I am getting rid of my KLF-20's in black satin and moving to KLF-30's. I have been trying hard to find KLF-30's in Mahogany and posted over on Klipsch in there forums. Even posted willing to pay an extra premium for mahogany finish but still no luck. Any advice on getting these? Or if anyone on here has some and would like to part with them please let me know. Very appreciated, Joe

Do you have a specific model you are asking about? For me, rather than concern myself about a different crossover I'm more intrigued with some of the horns they are using (like in the Palladium vs Heritage).

I believe the difference is if one has $1k-5k for speakers versed $10k-$20k in a multichannel configuration. I am curious how many people actually purchase new Heritage for HT compared to the Palladiums and if either really has much of a market. Fwiw, I have never seen a post by a Palladium owner on this forum nor anyone bragging about their new Heritage...Maybe they are posting in the "+$20,000 Forum" and if not...

Good point Zen. Where are the owners of new Heritage? And am I right in understanding that there are only a dozen or so Jubalee owners? Can we dig up total units sold on Jubs and Paladiums? What's your guess? dozens? hundreds? thousands?

RF-82s or RF-62s. On the Klipsch website they have them as IIs. What changed on them?

It's true that there are many many more people are buying used Klipschorns, La Scala and Cornwalls than new ones. Once in a blue moon, we'll see someone buying them new on the Klipsch forums. There are many owners of the Heresy III because it is much more affordable. I considered buying the Heresy II to III conversion kit, but it is almost the same price as selling my Heresy II and buying new Hesery III and end up with new cabinets. So I may buy 3 Heresy IIIs at some point when everything else is done.

The Jubilee is a different animal. The only way to buy it is almost Klipsch-direct and it isn't marketed in any way. You have to already know about it and have auditioned it with an existing owner.

The Palladium is expensive, and most rich people don't hang out on these forum; TheEar being one of the few exceptions.

Sadly, I think there is too much truth said above. There have certainly been a handful of Palladium purchasers, I can think of one guy who has evidently dropped at/over $40K in them to make a HT system (or perhaps he bought two...I don't really know)

Jubilees.... maybe 25 people or so in the world have them in their homes. Interestingly, this includes someone in Montreal Canada, London England and Cologne Germany who each bought them on reputation alone. They never heard them. You then have another half dozen or so people who also bought them without having ever heard them, simply on repuration. Yet another person in Australia is considering 5 perhaps 7 Jubilees for a HT system in his place.

It seems to me that most people who might consider Heritage first off.....can not go out to audition it which is a shame. Second, they then typically buy what ever they buy from Craigslist or Ebay. Perhaps that is a weird testamony to how long lived some of these products are!

I think if they were more accessable to listen to, more people would hear them and consequently, more might own them (new).

I must admit that buying them used (Khorns, LaScalas...) has certainly got to be one of the best bang for the buck purchases you can make, presuming you have the corners and wife to accept them.

Seems to Me that one buys the Heritage line thru word of mouth,experiences from friends & family,a lot of research,past ownership or combination of all above .
It's rare " air " that we heritage owners enjoy

& then you got guys like me who soup up their Heritage Speakers with better drivers ==>like making a 60's muscle car into a dragster !

Looking to get a pair of these for surrounds. Any pro/cons would be appreciated.

Thanks,

helllo klipsch brothers again ,i want someone's opinion on surrounds for daily tv and gaming and movie watching to go with my rf 82 and rc 62 i really wanted rs 52 but they are clearing them out and i can only find rs 42 for 299$ a pair should i wait to get them on the used market are the rs52 s worth the wait or can i go with the rs 42 .btw i listened to the 42 s and i thought wow they are crisp and loud i know the rs 52 is recommended for my set up but is it really that much different,also i will be running 5.1 is there others that went thru this like me ?

I haven't done significant testing, but my RF-62 II used as a center channel sounds just like my RF-62 L/R mains. During a movie, I honestly cannot tell the difference when a sound pans from left-center-right or vise-versa.



Aside from the look, the real difference is the crossover. I think the woofers may be a tad different as I think I read somewhere they use aluminum caskets now (don't quote me on that). If you can find one cheaper than the other, get the cheaper one.

I had a chance to try out the RF62 MKII today, directly against the RF82 MKI.

Here's what I thought -

Highs were less harsh
Imaging was better overall
More mids
Were producing sounds that the RF82's seemed to miss entirely
Bass was great, tight and fast

Overall I thought they sounded great. I personally have always found the RF82's to be too harsh/bright for my tastes, and the RF62's are just about right for me. That's not to say they are soft, they definately are not. But they image great, and have less SSSSSSSSS sound than previous gen to me.

I think these could be a big hit for Klipsch, they capture some of the old sound, and yet have a lot better balance.

I don't think that's a fair comparison as they were not the same model. I literally can't hear a difference between my RF-62's (I and II).

I have the RS42's and like them along with my RF82's, this is a bedroom setup.

Thanks for the info. yamahaSHO. Browning

Opinions? I'm thinking Klipsch for my HT, which would be preferable... 3 RB-81IIs across the front, or a pair of RF-62IIs and an RC-62II center? I already have stands and plenty of subwoofer output, so that's not an issue.