Klipsch owner thread - Page 373

Originally Posted by indybrian

Quick question for any RS-62 II owners.

I am trying to place my Seymour screen this weekend but my speakers are not here yet. I do not want the bottom of the frame to block the speakers. The Klipcsch website has the overall height of the speaker, but I am looking for the height to the center of each tweeter.

Thanks!
Can anyone break out a tape measure and check for me? Thanks.

Originally Posted by tony123

kk20, I've had extensive conversation, regarding your question,on the phone directly with a Klipsch consultant. He caught wind of my delima through a local store I called. I got a phone call saying, "this is Ken in Hope, Ark". I was very impressed at their concern. He spent an hour on the phone with me jawing back and forth.

Anyway, he directed me to the RS62II in that application. My only option as I saw it was to use the KL or KS in walls. He said that without question the RS62II would be a better performer in the system. I'm now using the RS62II in an otherwise Heritage system, and it works seamlessly. I'm very pleased. I can't speak for the RS42 however.

From my personal experience and that phone call, I'm convinced that in wall solutions serve a particular purpose, and you pay a price for that purpose in performance.

Originally Posted by KK20

As spdntrxi noted, my side surround problem is a speaker height issue. My options are:

KS-7502 in ceiling
RS-42II
RS-7 (older model, still available at some stores)
SS-1 (older, ebay ??)

Originally Posted by Zen Traveler

Fwiw, The RS-7s were discontinued in 2006 so I doubt there are any stores selling them new, but it would be between them and the KS-7502. I have no experience with in-walls, but the RS-7s are 5 dB more efficient. The other two are bottom-of-the-line models which probably wouldn't do the other speakers in your HT justice.

Originally Posted by spdntrxi

probably a typo.. but RS62 are surrounds.. how on earth would they be blocking the screen..where are you trying to use them ?

Originally Posted by Hurricane434

Hi all,

Shopping for front speakers and considering the RF-52's. I see Klipsch now has RF-52 II. Since a better deal can probably be gotten on the RF-52 is there much of a difference between the two to make it worth considering the RF-52 II? I do like how those news one look but I'm not sure that is a good enough excuse alone.

Also, the VF-35 have a slightly higher retail price than the RF-52 so is there a big improvement there? The VF-35 sounded good at Best Buy playing movies, but they are slightly bigger than I'd like, which is a reason I like the RF-52 to begin with. Is there a reason I should reconsider? Are the VF-35's better speakers?

Thanks,

Originally Posted by ILOVEMYHDTV

HI ALL. Well BB is good for everyone. But if your picky about this and that for sound and you want to stay with us= KLIPSCH....

Originally Posted by Zen Traveler

Fwiw, the VF-35 is a Klipsch speaker. http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/vf-35-overview/

Originally Posted by -RONIN-

I don't want to insult others but in my journey to find speakers I looked at the VF and the WF series. I didn't like them, they looked and sounded like something you get at a toy shop and when compared to the reference series..well.. there really can't be a fair comparison. IMO the reference series are at another level of build and audio quality.

Originally Posted by coytee

Repeating the "I don't want to insult others but...."


It is however, true that the larger you go, the better it gets.

Originally Posted by Zen Traveler

....For most people it seems that the THX ultra IIs are the smallest footprint to compete with this set up that would not need that requirement for TOP Quality sound....That being said for 2 Channel sound the RF-7's footprint IS where Size v Sound capability in a horn/woofer config seems optimal if space is a concern. {Edit: with the next improvement in sound being either the Cornwall or LaScala which requires at least twice the Floorspace.} My 2 cents.

Originally Posted by Zen Traveler

I agree that the upper end Heritage sound nice (I am not a fan of the Heresy), but their larger footprint and cost along with not being able to hear them at a local dealer unfortunately is going to make them a collectors item with a limited market in the age of Home Theater.

Originally Posted by Zen Traveler

Here are my thoughts:

...That being said for 2 Channel sound the RF-7's footprint IS where Size v Sound capability in a horn/woofer config seems optimal if space is a concern. {Edit: with the next improvement in sound being either the Cornwall or LaScala which requires at least twice the Floorspace.} My 2 cents.

Originally Posted by coytee

I've always felt the Khorn was the most space efficient. They are FAR less "room intrusive" than my LaScalas or Interface D's. I'd contend they'd be far less intrusive than RF's, VF's or most others....even HPM 100's or Mach ones and the like. Then you get to the Jubilee which has the same footprint.... oh, yes....visually, they (Khorns/Jubilee's) are behemoths..... but.... for actually intruding into the room, they are nice & tidy!

Originally Posted by coytee

I've always felt the Khorn was the most space efficient. They are FAR less "room intrusive" than my LaScalas or Interface D's. I'd contend they'd be far less intrusive than RF's, VF's or most others....even HPM 100's or Mach ones and the like. Then you get to the Jubilee which has the same footprint.... oh, yes....visually, they (Khorns/Jubilee's) are behemoths..... but.... for actually intruding into the room, they are nice & tidy!

Originally Posted by psgcdn

I have always said this as well. I find it funny when people say that my Klipschorns are way too big, but then turn around and say that their bookshelf speaker has to be on a stand 3 feet away from any wall! That would get knocked down by the kids at my house!

Originally Posted by tony123

I haven't considered Khorns because of room setup. My understanding is that in my 18x32' space with a seating distance of 19', that I would not be in position for the best imaging. Is that correct?

Not that the LaScalas are leaving me wanting for anything, but I would like to own Khorns just because....

Originally Posted by Zoraster

Is the sound quality gap between false corners and actual corner placement great? Indistinguishable?

Originally Posted by coytee

My Jubilee's are about 16' apart. Room length is (guessing) 25/29 feet BUT, only has three walls, opening up opposite the speakers to a dining room and foyer on the other side. So it's quite open.

I'd love to have your space!

I would however, strongly suggest prior to you ever buying Khorns....get your hiney over to Knoxville and hear the Jubilee's. I know a couple guys locally that have Khorns. We can dash to their house and do a quasi side by side or, you can listen to my stock LaScalas as a Khorn stand in. (essentially, listening to the midrange which is the same)

I had the Jubilee's for maybe 1 1/2 years before I went back over to this guy's house. He cranked his Khorns up to appropriate "omg can you believe this" levels.... and for the first time ever, I finally understood what some people mean when they say the sound gets congested. Granted, this was barking pretty hard at us and the room was untreated so it might not be all the Khorns fault BUT.... I know I've had my Jubilee's hitting harder than that and had nowhere near that congested sound.

It was an interesting moment/revelation for me. One that I've kept pretty quiet about and did not discuss with him.

Originally Posted by oOOBillO0o

I'll add that you can count the amount of jubilee users on your fingers and toes.

Yep... and you can bet that every one of those toes are curled!

Finding a used pair would be a hopeless search, since I gather most would hold them until the grave.

100% hopeless

One can find Klipschorns in larger circulation thru craigslist, Klipsch.com forums, and yes eBay. I got mine for well under 2K and the guy had custom re-veneered them in Zebra wood..

Sweet! I'll bet those are stunning!

New Klipschorns are great, just cost a good amount. The alternative is to "roll your own" with the Jubilee by contacting Klipsch directly. I gather you'd save a little but gain a good amount in sound.. and Coytee might be able to elaborate on the setup and config.

I don't know what you mean by 'roll his own'. Asthetics aside, the Jubilee is fully engineered and ready to plug/play. For a small upcharge, the front panel can be had in Walnut (same as in the Khorns). Hard to hide that top horn though . There is no guesswork on the Jubilee's (and I realize he's made no reference to having an interest in them, this is for any other casual readers benefit). Roy Delgado at Klipsch has taken PWK's last project and put it together in two formats. One which most have used, using the large....ok, freaking huge K402 horn on top and the other with the much smaller K510. The K510 COULD be put into a tophat much like a Khorn if someone wanted to build a top like that. I personally think that would look very nice. You could bury a passive in there like the Khorn or stay with the active crossover. If someone ever contemplates buying a NEW pair of Khorns then consideration of the Jubilee is at minimum a no-brainer. It will cost less and sound better (period). If they are debating a used pair of Khorns then obviously, the entire cost equation changes.

I haven't heard false corners either, but I think that falls into the last 5% of sound quality.. which is worth it to most but not to many ;-)