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post #11221 of 22372
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Originally Posted by StuBerger View Post

I currently have a RC62 as well and a pair of RF82's and I too feel it's time to upgrade to the RC64.
Where did you get yours and did you get any deal?
Anyone in here know of a RC64 (rather have I then II for matching) for sale at a real good deal?
Maybe in summer I will sell my RS42's x4 and go with the 62's....my wife is going to kill me!

I'm selling an RC64 currently.

also a pair of rf83's
post #11222 of 22372
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Originally Posted by stuberger View Post

Maybe in summer I will sell my RS42's x4 and go with the 62's....my wife is going to kill me!

I sold my RS42s for $300 and bought a Emotiva XPA3 for $425. came out good on that deal. I just used my left over RF62s for surrounds.
post #11223 of 22372
Anyone have a link or know the pricing for the new Klipsch Reference II speakers?? Thanks.
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post #11225 of 22372
Doesnt show pricing on the Klipsch website
post #11226 of 22372
Crutchfield.com is an authorized dealer. I think their prices are pretty close to what the MSRP is, if not exact.
post #11227 of 22372
Take a look at Sound Distributors in Las Vegas. Eric has been VERY bad to my Xmas budget... I just replaced my RB-25's with some RB-81's and I couldn't be happier. The 25's are moved to the bedroom.
post #11228 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

Doesnt show pricing on the Klipsch website

Sure it does... http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/product...2-ii-overview/ - $898/pair for these.
post #11229 of 22372
I think accessing the site from outside the US disables prices because I'm also not seeing it and from Canada.
post #11230 of 22372
Yeah same! I'm from Canada and I see no price listing anywhere! Weird!
post #11231 of 22372
I remember Amy (Klipsch) saying something about not having the prices viewable to the international market on their website.
post #11232 of 22372
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Originally Posted by CT_Wiebe View Post

StuBerger -- You want to get the RC-64 and not the RC64 II. When Klipsch upgraded to the II versions, they dropped the 2 1/2 woofer crossover configuration.

upgraded or downgraded? This seems like you don't like the new reference II line at all?
post #11233 of 22372
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Originally Posted by CT_Wiebe View Post

StuBerger -- You want to get the RC-64 and not the RC64 II. When Klipsch upgraded to the II versions, they dropped the 2 1/2 woofer crossover configuration. This means that they have the problem of woofer sound cancellation near the crossover point typical of the usual MTM configuration. The older RC-62 & RC-64 versions had the 2 1/2 way crossovers.

I saw this and wondered how the RC-62 could have a 2 1/2 way woofer configuration without an asymmetrical frequency response across the horizontal plane.
post #11234 of 22372
I just put up my set of three KL-650's for sale in the classifieds here if anyone is interested. Very good price.
post #11235 of 22372
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Originally Posted by sb1 View Post

I just put up my set of three KL-650's for sale in the classifieds here if anyone is interested. Very good price.

what you switching too ?.. good price indeed.
post #11236 of 22372
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
what you switching too ?.. good price indeed.
Right now, just some old Energy's I had. I just need to move some stuff and the KL's at this price should be tempting for some.
post #11237 of 22372
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Originally Posted by CT_Wiebe View Post
StuBerger -- You want to get the RC-64 and not the RC64 II. When Klipsch upgraded to the II versions, they dropped the 2 1/2 woofer crossover configuration. This means that they have the problem of woofer sound cancellation near the crossover point typical of the usual MTM configuration. The older RC-62 & RC-64 versions had the 2 1/2 way crossovers.

Unfortunately, the older stock seems to have been "gobbled up", at the highly discounted close-out prices, earlier this year (around the August time frame, when I bought my older model surrounds). Therefore, you are going to have to do some serious web searching to see if you can find the older models.

csgamer -- See my comments above, with regard to the RC-64. If you don't want a tower for the center channel, you could use a RB-81 for use as a center channel speaker. IMHO the RB-81 II would be a better choice than the RC-64 II (if you can't find the RC-64, non-II, version).

The RF-7s are better speakers than the RF-82s, but it depends on how loud you want your audio. The RF-7s have more dynamic range. Again, if you can get the older, non-II, versions, they should be better speakers.
I never noticed the RC-62 had dual cross over points until you mentioned it. In fact even the RC-52 had the 2.5 config your speaking of.

You would think that if it became a problem, they would have compensated for it in another way but I could be wrong.

Has anyone had the chance to compare the I & II for any center channels?

I used to have the 52, and recently listened to the 52II and thought it sounded less compressed and more open, but it wasn't really a critical listen, and was just comparing off of memory.
post #11238 of 22372
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Originally Posted by volsey View Post
I never noticed the RC-62 had dual cross over points until you mentioned it. In fact even the RC-52 had the 2.5 config your speaking of.

You would think that if it became a problem, they would have compensated for it in another way but I could be wrong.

Has anyone had the chance to compare the I & II for any center channels?

I used to have the 52, and recently listened to the 52II and thought it sounded less compressed and more open, but it wasn't really a critical listen, and was just comparing off of memory.
Yes, I have been wondering about SQ differences between I and II. I'm guessing it would be hard to tell a difference without having both in the same room. It does seem odd that they would go from 2.5 to 2-way for their centers.
post #11239 of 22372
Hello Fellow Klipschians:
Just to make sure you understand where this is coming from, I'm not slamming any product in anyway. As a matter of fact, I have some Klipsch Ref 82s on the way.
I just cannot get over the extreme polarization that this speaker type causes. On one side, I can't find a single positive "expert review" on a Klipsch speaker. "Experts" seem to see them as a party speaker for rock and electronica at the best, or for loud cinema effects. Nobody likes these things for serious acoustic/classical/jazz/vocal outings. On the other side of the coin are the "Users." The vast majority of these folks are passionate about these speakers and the user ratings on all sites soar to darn near perfects. And, a good many of these folks are also audiophiles/advisors (e.g. Crutchfield Reps., local audio dealers, etc.)
Okay here come the questions: Could it be that these speakers work better in certain hook-up/listening situations than in others? Is there a break in period for these speakers and do they improve overtime? I'm currently looking for a new integrated amp to go with these speakers. I'm leaning towards the NAD C 375 Bee. Should I be looking at a hybrid or tube amp to provide a little warmth and reduce the "harshness" I've read about? I'm wondering if alot of this talk doesn't come from the audio conservatives and the desire for complete neutrality. What gives?
Thanks!
post #11240 of 22372
Some experts has all kinds of misconceptions about horns. But the La Scala II got a very nice review from Stereophile when it came out 4 years ago.
post #11241 of 22372
Yeah, and the THX Ultra2 system got more positive reviews than you can shake a stick at. And the Khorns are on most "Legendary Speakers" lists.
post #11242 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Hawgfin View Post

Hello Fellow Klipschians:
...I just cannot get over the extreme polarization that this speaker type causes... Okay here come the questions: Could it be that these speakers work better in certain hook-up/listening situations than in others? Is there a break in period for these speakers and do they improve overtime? I'm currently looking for a new integrated amp to go with these speakers. I'm leaning towards the NAD C 375 Bee. Should I be looking at a hybrid or tube amp to provide a little warmth and reduce the "harshness" I've read about? I'm wondering if alot of this talk doesn't come from the audio conservatives and the desire for complete neutrality. What gives?
Thanks!

1) Yes. The room and setup will make a difference on how they sound and in an overly live room Klipsch speakers tend to sound bright because of all of the reflections.

2) There is no break-in times for the speakers but your ears will either become accustomed or not.

3) Separate amplification can help if you have a lower end AVR. I have no opinion which is better tubes or SS.

4) I have found in this hobby "neutral" is in the ears of the beholder.
post #11243 of 22372
Hi i m a definitive technology user think to go klipsch but i have few questions all my definitive speakers are flagship model and front speakers active my definitive setup bp 2000tl front,clr 2000 center,bpvx surround and bpvx surround back

Klipsch setup i think rf-7 mk2,rc-64mk2,and rs62 mk2 anyone here used definitive and klipsch before any idea? what will the differences

my receivers are denon 5805 mk2 and pioneer lx-90 susano
post #11244 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Hawgfin View Post

Hello Fellow Klipschians:
Just to make sure you understand where this is coming from, I'm not slamming any product in anyway. As a matter of fact, I have some Klipsch Ref 82s on the way.
I just cannot get over the extreme polarization that this speaker type causes. On one side, I can't find a single positive "expert review" on a Klipsch speaker. "Experts" seem to see them as a party speaker for rock and electronica at the best, or for loud cinema effects. Nobody likes these things for serious acoustic/classical/jazz/vocal outings. On the other side of the coin are the "Users." The vast majority of these folks are passionate about these speakers and the user ratings on all sites soar to darn near perfects. And, a good many of these folks are also audiophiles/advisors (e.g. Crutchfield Reps., local audio dealers, etc.)
Okay here come the questions: Could it be that these speakers work better in certain hook-up/listening situations than in others? Is there a break in period for these speakers and do they improve overtime? I'm currently looking for a new integrated amp to go with these speakers. I'm leaning towards the NAD C 375 Bee. Should I be looking at a hybrid or tube amp to provide a little warmth and reduce the "harshness" I've read about? I'm wondering if alot of this talk doesn't come from the audio conservatives and the desire for complete neutrality. What gives?
Thanks!

If you can't find a single positive review, you really aren't looking very hard. I have seen more positive reviews on the THX Ultra II's than ANY other speaker I can think of.
post #11245 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Hawgfin View Post

Hello Fellow Klipschians:
Just to make sure you understand where this is coming from, I'm not slamming any product in anyway. As a matter of fact, I have some Klipsch Ref 82s on the way.
I just cannot get over the extreme polarization that this speaker type causes. On one side, I can't find a single positive "expert review" on a Klipsch speaker. "Experts" seem to see them as a party speaker for rock and electronica at the best, or for loud cinema effects. Nobody likes these things for serious acoustic/classical/jazz/vocal outings. On the other side of the coin are the "Users." The vast majority of these folks are passionate about these speakers and the user ratings on all sites soar to darn near perfects. And, a good many of these folks are also audiophiles/advisors (e.g. Crutchfield Reps., local audio dealers, etc.)
Okay here come the questions: Could it be that these speakers work better in certain hook-up/listening situations than in others? Is there a break in period for these speakers and do they improve overtime? I'm currently looking for a new integrated amp to go with these speakers. I'm leaning towards the NAD C 375 Bee. Should I be looking at a hybrid or tube amp to provide a little warmth and reduce the "harshness" I've read about? I'm wondering if alot of this talk doesn't come from the audio conservatives and the desire for complete neutrality. What gives?
Thanks!

Here is a couple of "positive expert reviews" that may be of interest:

http://www.reviewboard.com/05/305/kl...speaker-review

http://hometheaterreview.com/klipsch...kers-reviewed/

I own the complete Icon WF Series (except for the Subwoofer) and enjoyed them very much. In addition, a complete older Reference Series and Quintet Series. My previous speaker experiences was with the classic KEF Reference 104/2 & 102/2....which I enjoyed for many years. IMHO, speakers are a personal experience and one should actually take the time to listen prior to purchasing. Happy Hunting!!!
post #11246 of 22372
Hi i m a definitive technology user think to go klipsch but i have few questions all my definitive speakers are flagship model and front speakers active my definitive setup bp 2000tl front,clr 2000 center,bpvx surround and bpvx surround back

Klipsch setup i think rf-7 mk2,rc-64mk2,and rs62 mk2 anyone here used definitive and klipsch before any idea? what will the differences

my receivers are denon 5805 mk2 and pioneer lx-90 susano
post #11247 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

1) Yes. The room and setup will make a difference on how they sound and in an overly live room Klipsch speakers tend to sound bright because of all of the reflections.

2) There is no break-in times for the speakers but your ears will either become accustomed or not.

3) Separate amplification can help if you have a lower end AVR. I have no opinion which is better tubes or SS.

4) I have found in this hobby "neutral" is in the ears of the beholder.

I think the break-in thing is really debatable. I wouldn't have believed the break-in myself if I didn't buy some headphones with highs that were really harsh. The first time i listened to for 2 minutes, I was really disappointend and wanted my money back. I took them off and let them break-in for 40 hours or so, wasn't expecting it to work. Put them back and immediately noticed a difference in the highs, it definetly had gotten smoother. I really doubt my ears adjusted in that time.
post #11248 of 22372
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Originally Posted by csgamer View Post

I think the break-in thing is really debatable....

I can't argue that it's not debatable but:

http://www.audioholics.com/education...act-or-fiction

EDIT: Also notice there is nothing in the Klipsch Owners guide that talks about break-in.
post #11249 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post


I can't argue that it's not debatable but:

http://www.audioholics.com/education...act-or-fiction

EDIT: Also notice there is nothing in the Klipsch Owners guide that talks about break-in.

Because speakers are somewhat mechanical devices, "break in" is a valid concept. This also relates to cars. Still, The fact is what ever you listen or drive will materialize as enjoyable or not enjoyable. as a result, this will emotionally supersede the concept of "break in." In a black white world break in is fiction, but in a world without limits it has a teeny tiny part in the process. Very debatable.

What's not debatable is; Klipsch makes great speakers. Don't sweat the break in - that means don't even factor it in. It's just a mind virus.
post #11250 of 22372
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Originally Posted by barasn View Post

Hi i m a definitive technology user think to go klipsch but i have few questions all my definitive speakers are flagship model and front speakers active my definitive setup bp 2000tl front,clr 2000 center,bpvx surround and bpvx surround back

Klipsch setup i think rf-7 mk2,rc-64mk2,and rs62 mk2 anyone here used definitive and klipsch before any idea? what will the differences

my receivers are denon 5805 mk2 and pioneer lx-90 susano

HI ALL. At first i read that you were a "DEFECTIVE TECHNOLOGY USER" . Those speakers were 3rd in my picks to get. 2nd were http://www.paradigm.com/. But sense i have lost some hearing, well i went with Klipsch. And now I am loving it.....
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