Klipsch owner thread - Page 403

Ahh...my RF-82's sounded great with the new RC-64II (just a beautiful speaker btw). I think they were a great match. Probably the RF-83 may be a better match, and


yeah, the 7II would be a great match. One of the things I am saving up for. I have the RC 64II and it is just beautiful, I can't imagine how much I will be freaking over the RF7II whenever I can afford them. My girlfriend already gets jealous when I am "wiping down" my 82's when I had them out.


sigh...little money..so many things I would like to get. One thing I have learned, and this is just my preference, is to get a really good centre speaker especially for a lot of movie watching. I had an RC-62 previously that sounded great but needed a little more output and wanted more headroom I suppose but the 62 was a great speaker and would have considered keeping it and making another setup out of it for the bedroom but I already owned a 3.0 Jamo setup.


FastSlappy, I see you got your 5008................................
jealous

If you can afford the RC-64(II) today and planning down the road to upgrade to the RF-7IIs just get it. It will work with the 82's and it will sound a bit different from them but it wont be a drastic difference as if it were another speaker company.

Started out with the RC-62 for my 82's and in the grand scheme of things I wish I had just opted for the 64 out the gate.

Best Regards
KvE

Can someone please give me adivce on which surround to get, a rs62 or rs52?
My room is 13x23, right now a have a paradigm studio 100v2, cc690 center and sub25. If I can't hear any different between rs62, rs52. Then I would like to save $250 by getting rs52. Thanks

I went with the 62s so I wouldn't have to stress over not getting them! Nice surrounds, they keep up with my KL-650s nicely. I'm not sure what the sound difference would be, if you're not the type to think "shoulda coulda woulda" then save some dough with the 52s!

I went back and forth just like you. Just went with the 52's. Only difference is the mid range size and honestly with all my speakers set at 80Hz or 70Hz and my LFE up to 120, I knew I wasn't going to hear the difference.

Save the money.

What do you all have your crossovers set to on your RF-83's and RC-64's?

General rule of thumb is to simply have everything set to small and crossovered at 80hz, assuming a set of speakers can linearly play below 80hz. Otherwise it should be set higher such as for satellite speakers or ones that cannot cleanly produce bass below the 80hz region.

The 83's can produce bass well below 80 but it is beneficial to just have the lower bass frequencies played by a sub because it will help the speakers avoid compression of dynamics and distortion. This is due to the amp not being over taxed providing power to content that would better sent to the sub anyway.

Best Regards
KvE

Can someone help me on this .

I have RF 7's and a NAD C370 Integrated Amp 120 Wpc .
I can get a used NAD C272 Power Amp 150wpc

Can I Bi amp them using the C370 120wpc for Highs and the C272 150Wpc for the Lows ??? Thanks

I'd contend that anyone can biamp/triamp just about any speaker made. Just depends if it's worth the part count and other challanges to you.

I'm presuming that you know what 'biamp' genuinely means and you are really asking "can I take my two NAD amps and ADD an active crossover to properly split the signal prior to the amps and then feed the TWO signals from the amps to the speakers"

Answer: Sure. I'm not familar with the RF7's and how their crossover is configured nor their input cup. So with that disclaimer, you might have to do some other surgery to them if they only have one input terminal.

If they have two input terminals then you will still have to do some surgery to the passive crossover. If they are 2-way it might be as easy as bypassing the crossover, putting a pair of wires to the woofers and another pair of wires to the tweeter.

If they are 3-way then you might need to reconfigure the passive so that the woofer section is bypassed. Doing this would then have you wire DIRECTLY from the amp to the woofers and the other pair of wires would then go to the passive and you could let the passive split between the mid/high's.

So the bottom line is sure, you can biamp them. The question is are you prepared to jump through the hoops to get there?

If you actually mean can I "biwire" them..... I'd say save your money.

The Klipsch RF 7 speaker Crossover is built in the back of the speaker it has 4 speaker posts 2 for highs and 2 for lows so i dont think i have to do anything with crossovers Do I . So i was thinking to use 2 amps for this One amp will run the highs and one amp the lows . But what about the 30Wpc difference of the 2 amps ?

If you will pardon my not being familar with the speaker, I'd presume these posts are for "biwiring" and not "biamping". I certainly might be wrong. I'm sure the fine chaps at the Klipsch forum might know more details.

That said, you can certainly biamp the speaker. The 30 watt difference between the amp is irrelevant when you are biamping with an active crossover in the chain.

(so you know, I biamp)

I once had an 8 watt 300B SET amp wired to my tweeter and a 500 watt Crown K2 amp wired to my woofers. Worked like a charm. It worked like a charm as long as I stayed within the output range of the 300B. Once I went past that, I could hear the tube amp running out of gas and the distortion took over.

You can also adjust for different input sensativies inside an active crossover.

I guess....what I'm trying to say is if you are thinking about simply running one amp to one post and the other amp to the other post, I would personally pass on that arraingment. If instead, you are thinking about adding an active crossover PRIOR to the amps so that each amp only covers a part of the spectrum, then you might continue forward and find out what the next road block is (how the passive is setup in the speaker)

You don't want to set up an actively crossed signal and then feed essentially, 1/2 of that signal into the unaltered passive. If you add an active crossover, you will need to do SOMETHING (I'm not exactly sure what) to the passive.

I'm fearing you are referring to "biamping" where you remove the strap on the speaker, run an additional line to the input cup from your second amp and are done? If accurate, I'd personally pass.

My thoughts are, if you're going to biamp, then do it right.

My klipsch thx 2 ultra set arrived

I have bought new equipment to replace an old Bose that I had. I have an onkyo tsxr608, a pair of RB 41, one rc42, and a pair of rs42 surrounds. Looking at the pics where do you guys think I should mount them. I was thinking about mounting each one above the two doors. That would put them about 8'. What do you guys think?

I would do some serious research on passive biamping before wasting any money, time, or speaker wire.

as long as you aim them directly at the main listening position (MLP) just find a mount that will let you get them away from the walls enuff to be able aim them anywhere I don't see any problems at all ..
Yer gonna need a sub U know that right ?

"The Factor" will chime in soon he has the 7's and he'd know best on the what & how to set them up to get the best outta them ... they are a Very Nice Speaker !
.. he's our resident 7's Pro

congrats.. I am very happy with mine.

what Movie are you gonna Test them on ????

THX 2 Ultra's ? yes sir ...

forgot to mention I have an sw 350 sub.

Thanks for the Props I learned from trial and error but with great success lol Oh and over the years from great forums like AVS and there members along with my home away from home Bluray.com

I did Transformers 1&2 when I got mine and then Ironman 1&2.

did the neighbors call the Cops ?

Its not so much the watts and your not going to notice a 30wpc differential and should be ok if they dont match imo . If your going to run seperate amps you must remove the bridge from your 7's " The gold plated bridge going from your posts on the back of your speakers" ! Theres much debate in bi-wiring , passive bi-amping and bi-amping like you speak of using seperate amps . I've passive bi-amped before using my Pioneer Elite 94 avr I had at the time because it had the option for that and there was little to no difference so I went back to 7.1 vs 5.1 and choose not doing the passive bi-amp option , The 7.1 sounded better to me and I would personaly reccomend concentrating on other upgrades instead of bi-amping your 7's and you'll more then likely get more bang for your buck . If it bothers you having the bridges on your speakers just take them off and bi-wire them although more then likely not hear a difference .

How did he get that designation? Btw, this is my 1,000th post on this thread and I have been an RF-7 owner for over 8 years....

Leave the brackets in place and run one set of speaker wire.

Because he practices audiophile black magic.

Best Regards
KvE

+1

Ive run my front 5 with one set of speaker wire..then biwire..even ran the front mains biamp'd using that weird current/voltage source do-dad on my Sunfire 7400 amp. I actually didn't like the biamp..maybe it was the way the bass sounds a little muddy on current or was it voltage. Hell and I could not really tell the difference between biwire and non either. But I like my biwire cables better (looks) so I just left them in there.

Save you money !

Well I have almost 3000 posts on this Forum and own 7 II's so there We can arm wrestle if you like for it LOL I'd be more then happy to pass the torch "Down " to you Zen All kidding a side Zen my friend Fastslappy was just trying to foward a little help to one of our brother Klipsch owners and pass a little kindness to me at the same time . Dont take it serious and to show you my heart is in the wright place I officialy step down from the title and pass it to you

Dont give away all my secrets especially since my audiophile black magic surpasses my my true audiophile knowledge Ughhhhhhhhhh ! But dont tell anyone this time please