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post #14791 of 22408
thank you very much for your opinion bit master rate.

I was a little decieve when i realize i didn't buy the 62 II, so i wanted to make sure i could still benefit from them having them as surround speaker. Even though i believe my rf 62 sound really good , i really like to have my stuff up to date. This is my first real home theater system and i want to be proud of it!I guess i will be when the rf 82 II will come in , shortly i hope;-)
post #14792 of 22408
One more thing, i have the pioneer vsx 1020, and i really like all the features.

I just wonder if it 110 per channel is enough for the set up that im after, like mentionned above.

thank you
post #14793 of 22408
Salut Marcono,

Are you sure they aren't II's ? How long can the old stock last? The RF-62 has a rounded bottom of the grill. and the RF62 II are straight.

As far as amplification goes, try it, and add external amplification to the same receiver if you feel it's unsufficient.
post #14794 of 22408
well, on the box witch is the original package, theres is no II on it and yes, the bottom is round.

for extra amplification on my actual receiver, can someone enlighten me on how i should proceed...i have no clue on how i will achieve that
post #14795 of 22408
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Originally Posted by marcono View Post

well, on the box witch is the original package, theres is no II on it and yes, the bottom is round.

for extra amplification on my actual receiver, can someone enlighten me on how i should proceed...i have no clue on how i will achieve that

You buy a separate power amp and connect it to the pre-out connections on the AVR using standard rca audio cables and connect your speakers to the amp not the AVR. If your AVR and Power amp are high-end units they may also have balanced outputs and inputs that could be used instead of the rca connections. I think these only have advantages with longer cable runs though, but I may be wrong since I have no experience with them.
post #14796 of 22408
Marcono you can easily tell what model rf series you have by the feet they have. As far as that avr goes i have used a vsx-1017 with my rf-82s before and i am sure it is similar to what you have. It sound very digital and clean which i liked but it did not have gobs of power. If your vsx-1020 has pre outs i would absolutely recommend adding an emotiva amplifier (think upa-5, xpa-3 or xpa-5). Your system will of course work without a separate amplifier.

To the guy who has someone recommending a professional calibration. I don't think that even when i start my decent paying job after school that i would shell out that kinda of cash (or trade of 16 hours of my time) for that calibration. I would use that money towards a processor that could do nearly as good of a job while giving me a physical piece of equipment to go with it. By the way this is a amateur opinion and the choice is of course up to you.
post #14797 of 22408
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Originally Posted by ravenous View Post
Thats right.

I used my 2 subwoofers, which i allready have. They are powered by a 1000W amp and controlled by an AS-EQ1.

In both setups the fronts where set to small and crossover was set at 60Hz to make it comparable.

I never talked about substituting the subs by the main speakers. In theatre setups i would allways use subwoofers for the LFE.

But my critics on the THX Ultra set are not in the bass area. The problem is the disharmony of the crossover from mids to highs which results in muffled voices and the harshness of the sound when listening to music.

The THX Ultra setup is fantastic for movies but when you want a more versatile setup which you can also listen music with or when you want a more harmonic less effect catching sound, then a set with RF-82s, RF-83 or RF-7s is the far better choice.
my experience is quite different. I listen to alot of music, probably more now then when I ran La Scalas with tube amplification. Lots of this music is female vocals, Mariah, Sade, Christina A, Alicia Keys.. no harshness here or to hear.

I mainly switched to this system for it's HT abilities... but I wouldn't put my LaScalas on the chopping block if I didn't think the KL650 where not up to snuff musically. Not saying they are better or anything, but I have nothing to complain about either.
post #14798 of 22408
I Cant believe I am saying this but the Klipsch RW 10D is a piece of junk....I have seen wlamart subs better...I would say my cheap 100 watt pioneer 8" sub is better than this klipsch. Maybe mine is defective....if not I am very unsatisfied with this sub....it is a giant paper weight. I will mess with the settings because at the half way point there is no sound coming out??? I mean hardly any movement, granted my reciever is not set up yet. I am just tryimng to place this thing and it really doesnt sound good anywhere.
post #14799 of 22408
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Originally Posted by robc1976 View Post

I Cant believe I am saying this but the Klipsch RW 10D is a piece of junk....I have seen wlamart subs better...I would say my cheap 100 watt pioneer 8" sub is better than this klipsch. Maybe mine is defective....if not I am very unsatisfied with this sub....it is a giant paper weight. I will mess with the settings because at the half way point there is no sound coming out??? I mean hardly any movement, granted my reciever is not set up yet. I am just tryimng to place this thing and it really doesnt sound good anywhere.

I would say you have either have some settings to tweak or it's defective. I owned that Sub for a cpl years and never had a problem power. My only issue with that sub was the "boomy-ness" of it. For my room I didn't find it very tight at all and once it hit a certain point it would turn into a boomy mess.
post #14800 of 22408
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Originally Posted by -RONIN- View Post

I would say you have either have some settings to tweak or it's defective. I owned that Sub for a cpl years and never had a problem power. My only issue with that sub was the "boomy-ness" of it. For my room I didn't find it very tight at all and once it hit a certain point it would turn into a boomy mess.

After running Audyssey it is a bit better, but I cant get my reciever to let me have DTS on...only dolby diggital....I have my HDMI going from game to 360 then from TV to source 3. I prefer to used DTS.
post #14801 of 22408
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Originally Posted by robc1976 View Post

After running Audyssey it is a bit better, but I cant get my reciever to let me have DTS on...only dolby diggital....I have my HDMI going from game to 360 then from TV to source 3. I prefer to used DTS.

The 360 puts out a dd signal.
post #14802 of 22408
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post

my experience is quite different. I listen to alot of music, probably more now then when I ran La Scalas with tube amplification. Lots of this music is female vocals, Mariah, Sade, Christina A, Alicia Keys.. no harshness here or to hear.

I mainly switched to this system for it's HT abilities... but I wouldn't put my LaScalas on the chopping block if I didn't think the KL650 where not up to snuff musically. Not saying they are better or anything, but I have nothing to complain about either.

My experience was different than ravenous as well. I thought the 650's were very smooth. I had them right next to some RF62's, and the difference in refinement was noticable. Goes to show...we all have a set of ears.
post #14803 of 22408
Female Vocals are not the problem. Just try something with electric guitars like "Linkin Park Live" or Guitars and Violin like "The Corrs Unplugged". You will instantly notice the scratchy character of the KL650.

We compared the KL650 also to a set of Naim NBLs and the conclusion was the same.
post #14804 of 22408
In 2001 I picked up the Klipsch RF3 Reference Series 5.1 system at a local audio/video store at a decent close-out price. After break-in I was generally very pleased with the sound and it's always gotten high marks from visitors to my modest home theater. I played the Tron Legacy Blu-ray recently and it sounded great, didn't seem to have any difficulty handling the LFE, the walls and floor were shaking in all the appropriate scenes. Now that the system is coming up on its 10 year anniversary I have began to wonder if there is a point when I should begin to think about replacing them just based on years of service, or is this purely subjective? I came across one website while Googling that indicated they should be retired.

Here is the speaker configuration:
http://www.hometheatersound.com/equi..._reference.htm
post #14805 of 22408
I see a lot of people running rf-62's in the rear considering doing that when i upgrade my 62's which are in the front currently and go with rf-82's in the front.
post #14806 of 22408
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

In 2001 I picked up the Klipsch RF3 Reference Series 5.1 system at a local audio/video store at a decent close-out price. After break-in I was generally very pleased with the sound and it's always gotten high marks from visitors to my modest home theater. I played the Tron Legacy Blu-ray recently and it sounded great, didn't seem to have any difficulty handling the LFE, the walls and floor were shaking in all the appropriate scenes. Now that the system is coming up on its 10 year anniversary I have began to wonder if there is a point when I should begin to think about replacing them just based on years of service, or is this purely subjective? I came across one website while Googling that indicated they should be retired.

Here is the speaker configuration:
http://www.hometheatersound.com/equi..._reference.htm

No need to replace them, that is still a great system! What receiver are you using? Maybe time to consider upgrading your receiver and subwoofer. If you do have extra cash though the new rf-7ii system would be a giant leap better. The rf-82ii would not be a largely significant upgrade. Wow you are going on 10 years in the klipsch game, smart man.
post #14807 of 22408
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Originally Posted by ravenous View Post

Female Vocals are not the problem. Just try something with electric guitars like "Linkin Park Live" or Guitars and Violin like "The Corrs Unplugged". You will instantly notice the scratchy character of the KL650.

We compared the KL650 also to a set of Naim NBLs and the conclusion was the same.

I'll have to dig through my linkin park stuff.. I have quite a few... But not sure if it live. I know I have some japan only releases.. So they might be. If not I'll try to find some streaming content which I would assume to be worse then my discs.

You did say voices are muffled and I've never experienced that

I'll add that I am a big RATM fan... Lots of guitar in those tracks.. Slap bass etc and I have seen them in concert and I like what the kl650 do.
post #14808 of 22408
I agree w/BIT-If to your ears and everyone elses' your system still sounds great keep them. Speakers are the one stronghold of the HT build. Speakers do not "progress" as fast as a A/V receiver. Your receiver would be the first upgrade....the new codecs are great. Dolby True HD, on Blu you would like.
post #14809 of 22408
Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback. I upgraded to the Denon AVR-2309CI a couple of years ago which handles all the new sound formats. I'll keep the idea of upgrading the subwoofer in mind.
post #14810 of 22408
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

In 2001 I picked up the Klipsch RF3 Reference Series 5.1 system at a local audio/video store at a decent close-out price. After break-in I was generally very pleased with the sound and it's always gotten high marks from visitors to my modest home theater. I played the Tron Legacy Blu-ray recently and it sounded great, didn't seem to have any difficulty handling the LFE, the walls and floor were shaking in all the appropriate scenes. Now that the system is coming up on its 10 year anniversary I have began to wonder if there is a point when I should begin to think about replacing them just based on years of service, or is this purely subjective? I came across one website while Googling that indicated they should be retired.

Here is the speaker configuration:
http://www.hometheatersound.com/equi..._reference.htm

I'd add a modern AVR that does 7.1 or even 9.1 , that way u could add some heights & wides to your mix
add new 82's to front duty or add 81 bookselves to do heights & wides duty
use the smaller ones now that U use to other duties
if they were 30 years old then I'd say redo the diaphragms in the horns & replace the caps in the crossovers
the new stuff doesn't always equate to better when talking speakers , some of the best speakers today were made 30 years ago ...
post #14811 of 22408
anyone here measured frequency response for their speakers?

i measured Cornwalls with REW and i keep getting fall off at around 10kz. i believe i shouldn't get fall off until 20khz?
post #14812 of 22408
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

anyone here measured frequency response for their speakers?

i measured Cornwalls with REW and i keep getting fall off at around 10kz. i believe i shouldn't get fall off until 20khz?



but how's CS-1.5's coming along ??
post #14813 of 22408
i got all the drivers sitting in my room just staring at me.

i am actually going to build the subs first. i think the CS1 will have to wait a bit.
post #14814 of 22408
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

I'd add a modern AVR that does 7.1 or even 9.1 , that way u could add some heights & wides to your mix
add new 82's to front duty or add 81 bookselves to do heights & wides duty
...


so do this look right ??
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/fb...1&l=28e791a792
post #14815 of 22408
Hi all, new to this forum but love Klipsch gear and would value your thoughts. Am currently building a dedicated H.T room approx 20' deep x 18' wide with 7'6" ceilings. I will be installing a pair of RF52's up front with an RC52IIB centre channel. This will be a 7.1 set up and i am planning on using my old (2y.o) Quintets as my surrounds and at least to start with the matching sub (10") I think i'll be definitely upgrading the sub but am keen to hear your thoughts on the Quintets as surrounds. They have done a great job as my mains in the old lounge +plasma set up and i think they should be great in a dedicated room. I'll be running them through a Pioneer LXVX60 Receiver. Cheers Bryce
post #14816 of 22408
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Originally Posted by ILOVEMYHDTV View Post

so do this look right ??
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/fb...1&l=28e791a792

Looks like Real man Cave to me ! I look into an XPA-5 & you will be WoWed
post #14817 of 22408
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Originally Posted by brucey1609 View Post
Hi all, new to this forum but love Klipsch gear and would value your thoughts. Am currently building a dedicated H.T room approx 20' deep x 18' wide with 7'6" ceilings. I will be installing a pair of RF52's up front with an RC52IIB centre channel. This will be a 7.1 set up and i am planning on using my old (2y.o) Quintets as my surrounds and at least to start with the matching sub (10") I think i'll be definitely upgrading the sub but am keen to hear your thoughts on the Quintets as surrounds. They have done a great job as my mains in the old lounge +plasma set up and i think they should be great in a dedicated room. I'll be running them through a Pioneer LXVX60 Receiver. Cheers Bryce
if u can afford it step up to the RF62 & RC62 in that sized room your gonna need the added punch the 62's will deliver & yes the quintets should be Just fine
post #14818 of 22408
Thanks very much for the response. The RF52's were a purchase i made a year or so ago in anticipation of the H.T build. They're still boxed and waiting for the install. I have been looking at the 62"S but will need to get past the minister for war and finance first. Given the $$ dropped on the build already i may have a battle on my hands lol. May be a case of having to upgrade once the dust settles. Appreciate your feedback, thanks very much.
post #14819 of 22408
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Originally Posted by brucey1609 View Post
Hi all, new to this forum but love Klipsch gear and would value your thoughts. Am currently building a dedicated H.T room approx 20' deep x 18' wide with 7'6" ceilings. I will be installing a pair of RF52's up front with an RC52IIB centre channel. This will be a 7.1 set up and i am planning on using my old (2y.o) Quintets as my surrounds and at least to start with the matching sub (10") I think i'll be definitely upgrading the sub but am keen to hear your thoughts on the Quintets as surrounds. They have done a great job as my mains in the old lounge +plasma set up and i think they should be great in a dedicated room. I'll be running them through a Pioneer LXVX60 Receiver. Cheers Bryce
SOUNDS LIKE your heading in the right direction. But with that set up; as my title states. Your gonna just use 1/3-1/2 of the space. To get the impact your expecting or looking for. Here some temptation; keep the 52's will be your surrounds. If space is there. Then get 62 or if someone is upgrading get some 82's. With matching 62 center. I got lucky; this jazz player on the other side of the city was dumping his less than a year old 82's, for 570$ a pair ! IF it is a dedicated room, do not forget that viewing distance from the tv to seat, an then plan from there. sub you got FIND that sweet spot. if they say no; well your gonna have to choke those little speaks so NO bass go through.


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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post
Looks like Real man Cave to me ! I look into an XPA-5 & you will be WoWed
STOP PLEASE..... i have been looking at the website. Salivating an just dreaming. The XPA-5 WOULD MAKE MY FRONT STAGE ......SSSSIIIIIIINGGGG. But i think i might have popped side right surround S3 woofer. it makes that ugly noise once in a long while. BUT if i do go with XPA upgrade i gonna need to upgrade the rears???????


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Originally Posted by brucey1609 View Post
Thanks very much for the response. The RF52's were a purchase i made a year or so ago in anticipation of the H.T build. They're still boxed and waiting for the install. I have been looking at the 62"S but will need to get past the minister for war and finance first. Given the $$ dropped on the build already i may have a battle on my hands lol. May be a case of having to upgrade once the dust settles. Appreciate your feedback, thanks very much.
OOOHH, you can always message those worries away... and when you finally have that movie night, they gonna be VERY happy.
post #14820 of 22408
DO YOU KNOW, that i can not locate no online retailers for emotiva amps. OTHER than them.
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