Klipsch owner thread - Page 504

I used to swear by Onkyo's All Channel Stereo until 2 things happened:

1. I sent the 5008 into protection mode.
2. Since I sent it into protection mode, I began using 2-channel until I got an amp. I got used to the better sound of 2-channel. Yes, all channel can be louder and has a tendency to fill the room. However, with the Klipsches I found that I like to listen to music while sitting on the couch a whole lot more. And although all channel is louder and kind of enveloping, 2-channel just sounds better to me.

I like to set the precedent that I'll do WTF I want. Don't like it? Then it's not me you want, it's control.
Granted, I have the luxury of being divorced (no, not for that reason), but that's the way I look at it.

Yeah i see your point ! you musta s*it a brick when the onk shut down .. I did that with a Teac receiver once !

I just got off the phone with Pete and the second one is on the way. I have tried it sideways, but I like the port shooting at me. The wife and I are pretty open with our purchases, she also makes like 3 times more than I do being a pharmacist for Walgreens so I don't try and push my hobby that she has little to no interest in too hard! Just yesterday she said, "should we get a new waverunner?" I said, "How about we set our living room up like The Son in this picture instead?" Got the not in this lifetime look!!

hahahaha

I did that & didn't get divorced ( NO, i know & I am Not saying that was yer cause for the big "D" L O L !)
I now have full control over the living room if "HerSelf" don't like it ,then she can go to the HT in bedroom .. Cool Huh ! I agree ya gotta draw that line in the sand ERR shag carpet ??? L O L !

WoW those seats look comfy !!

Why do Klipsch RF 82II speaker lack mid frequency? Will I feel any difference between it and any other 3 ways speaker?

I'm looking for some quality but price effective speaker mounts for my RB61's and RB51's. I'll need to be able to tilt them down toward the MLP (for my height's) and turn them in toward MLP (for my wides) Can anyone help me with that?

From the looks on Klipsch's website, it says the RB61 II's cannot be mounted? Is that true? That would kind of suck setting them up on my walls.

Are you referring to the Spec page stating "Mounting: None" ?

All that means is that a mounting bracket is not provided, and looking at the speaker itself it doesn't have mounting holes, etc. Compare to the XB-10, which comes with the brackets. So the RB61s don't come "ready to mount".

But you can still mount the RB61s. You can mount anything anywhere, if you have the right mounting hardware, attach it appropriately to the speaker, and attach it correctly to a suitably strong wall/surface. It's just that the bigger/heavier the speaker, the more "interesting" the mounting hardware/method becomes.

shinksma

Sometimes I feel like this too on the RF82's....I was thinking it was the Pioneer MCACC doing it.
I was hoping it was just me but now I saw your post....

Regarding the Reference II line (specifically RC-64II and RF-7 II) has anyone noticed a better result with Audyssey versus Yamaha's YPAO?

and was it a pronounced difference, or just slight?

I also noticed this with the Pioneer MMAC and music, so I set one MMAC setting manually and use that for music (2 ch) and the auto calibration for movies.

it's your room correction that does that .. it taking some of the mids away in the calibration .. You might need room treatments as you have a reflection wave & your MCACC is OVER correcting for it ..

i feel it's pronounced , you barely ever here that from a guy who has AVR with Reference Klipsches & Audyssey
BUT You might also have a reflection problem that Audyssey will fix & Pio's & Yammy's room correction can't deal with .

I haven't noticed this with Audyssey.

But I listen really loud, so that might be masking or compensating.

.............................was it something I said?

C'mon, guys......stop lookin' at my picture and discuss the thread topic......KLIPSCH

i finally receive my rf 82 II from sound distributors. They were selling a pair of lightly damaged speaker, and even thought i couldn't see them before ordering, i bought them and to my surprise, they were very.........lightly damaged!! Almost perfect condition , just as describe.

Im really happy with this transaction, hight regard to Sound Distributors

So the very first movie i saw was Nemo, with my 2 little daughters, and i almost felt like a fish in the ocean

By The way if someone is selling a rc 62 II pm me! Its all i need to complete my system

Marko

So, much to my co-worker's amusement (I said I was done upgrading for now), I am now researching my next HT upgrade, which will likely be speakers. My current speakers seem fine enough, but I figure I may as well start the research now so I don't have to make a panic decision should I suffer a non-recoverable failure or something.

I listen to a lot of multi-channel music, as well as watch a lot of movies via BD. I have pretty well convinced myself that I would like to get five (5) identical speakers to ensure exact timbre matching, and that they should be regular vertically-oriented 2-way speakers to eliminate phasing that can occur with MTMs. I'm not sure whether my insistence on such matters will be noticeable, but I figure, if I'm going to do a sweeping replacement, I may as well get it as technically right as possible, otherwise it will bug me.

A set of B&W 802s would be nice, but it is far more likely that I will get a unicorn for my birthday.

Klipsch speakers seem very attractive to me both aesthetically and price/performance-wise. I have heard some RF-83s (I think, could have been RF-82s), and I did not feel they sounded harsh - but I've got some hearing loss due to too many loud concerts in my youth and because I continue to play loud guitar/drums too...

The RB-81s are a very attractive consideration - they are reasonably priced (important when I need a set of 5), and have a big enough woofer to not be concerned they aren't handling bass down to 60 Hz or so (I like to cross my mains about there to even further minimize localization of my SWs vs. the standard of 80Hz).

On the other hand, if I wanted to go with towers up front, I suspect a pair of RF-82s would be nice. I could go with RF-82s in the rear too, I suppose. But I'm not sure about compromising on a center channel that is MTM-configured, and it bugs me that Klipsch doesn't offer an 8" driver center channel. And a matching RF-82 in the center simply can't work due to PJ screen, of course.

So...can anyone comment on their personal experiences with 5 (or 7) identical speakers vs. matching towers and bookshelves, especially considering multi-channel music?

And anyone able to comment on comparisons of MTM center channels vs. RB-81 or other two-way config, and whether they really could tell the difference?

Thanks for any comments, no matter how anecdotal,

shinksma

the RC-62II & RC-64II as centers

the 64 has 4 woofs if yer worried about lack of woofer power

& 4 RF-82II's the match the set .

but if U have the cash then a RC-64 II & 4 of the RF-7 II's would be THE Hot Ticket ..


the RF-83 would be the Best set of 4 !!! I M H O but they are hard to find these days as they were discontinued they are a Great speaker !!

Can anyone send me links for professional few reviews for the RC-52 II Center and the RB-51 II Bookshelf? I have been looking all day and I haven't found any.

I am strongly considering buying them and a Denon AVR-2112CI together so that I can get the sales person to give me a break off the $1350 MSRP, $1100 would be nice.

Anyone know where and how I can get deals on my purchases?

The AVR2112 hits the market on 5-31-11 but if I get the Onkyo TX-NR609 instead I can get a pair of Klipsch RB-41 IIs for surrounds.

heaven. rf-83 ,rc64 ,2-outlaw lfm ex ,polk monitor 40,denon 2808ci,emotiva xpa-2,xpa-3,pana.58" plasma. to complete this i need klipsch surrounds instead of the polks what do you guys suggest?

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> 2 RF-83's ,RF-82's would be the best if your room is able to use direct radiators as surrounds
or 2 RS-62 but these are iffy in my book but others like them .
i like my side surrounds to match my front mains(in voice matching & timbre) as more & more films are placing a lot more of a sound mix onto the side surrounds ,even broadcast channels like CBS (ie; CSI,NCIS ) are putting a huge amount of the mix on to their 5.1 channels geared into the side surrounds . I have really noticed it this season that those shows are well crafted in the sound editing of 5.1 & really have stepped up to the plate & take full use outta the surround channels to add more drama to the sound mix

that is exactly the problem. i can't find a new pair of 83s and i can't decide on rs62 or rf82. the room is small (14x16) i might move it to a bigger room if my neighbor keeps complaining (approx. 16x30) if so that would bring rf7ii in as an option. just not sure if i should go for direct radiator or bipole.looking for a deciding factor.

I really wish I could get either another pair of RF 82's for side surrounds but my couch would be in the way...darn...or sell my RS42's (4) and get 2 pair of RS 52's or 62's

If you get the rs-62s or even the rs-52 im sure you will love them they're built to do exactly what surrounds are meant to do. I ran the rf-82s as rears before I sold them when I upgraded to the rf-7ii. To me the sound was to direct almost like it wasn't surround but more like 5 channel stereo. Plus if you run direct speakers they have to be set up to face right at you. I'm not saying the rf-82s won't sound good as rears I'm just saying that's not really what they're mainly designed for whereas the RS stuff is. There will always be some who will go against the grain like I run all my speakers as large and even have 3 really nice subs. But to me it makes the subs sound better not getting such a hot signal at mid frequencies and It's easier for me to get a flat response(with the sms-1) in my room setting it up like that,and it just sounds better. 95% or more on here will probably say they set everything at small. And that normally would be the better choice. So floor standing rears might be perfect for you. Also if you do a lot 5 channel music having all floor standing speakers would be a plus.

Love the set up and can't go wrong with pink Floyd (David Gilmore)

Yes, I agree, I would stick with the RS upgrades...now I just need to sell these 42's....

you mean mid bass or mid range like 500-2k Hz?

I dont think Klipsch speakers lack mid range, That is one reason why they are so forward (to my taste). I actually reduce the mid range 500Hz-2KHz by 3-5 db on the manual EQ on my Denon 3310. No I dont use Audyssey because I dont like the flat sound as the mid range is too pronounced for music to my taste. I only use Audyssey it for movies mainly because I can have the Dynamic volume on so avoid volume fluctuations.

If you feel the lack of mid BASS of any bass frequency, then it is mainly due to room modes/standing waves. No room correction can bring back those nulls completely. But you can use room treatment to try to prevent the nulls. You find the null freq. at the main seating position and then use treatment like 4" thick OC 703 panels placed at about 1/4th the wavelength of that frequency from the wall behind the seating. Easier said than done. But it is not hard. You can get the freq. sweeps from realtraps.com and just play them on your system and use a RadioShack SPL meter to note down the SPL readings. You will know at what frequencies the null(s) is/are. You can focus on the biggest null.