Klipsch owner thread - Page 52

I think I'm looking to get the RF-82's the RC-62 and maybe either the RS-42's if not the RS-62's.

Does the 42's weaken my whole entire set up with the RF-82s and RC-62s? Am i better going with the RS-62s?

I just got my speakers in today. The RC-62 just out guns the RC-52 hands down. I was shocked when I took the RB-81's out of the box. They are HUGE for bookshelve speakers. First thing my wife said, "There is no way your putting that on the wall!" They barely fit on my stands, I have to go find some larger ones tomorrow.

Ok heres the goods:
Epic CF3 floors
KSFC-5 center
KSW 15 sub
RS 25 side rears with the 3808ci

My problem is all my stuff obviously is discontinued and now i need two more rears to complete the 7.1 How crappy is it going to sound if I get a pair of rears that has a CP wattage of 110 when my RS 25 CP is only 75 watts. Than would I stick the more powerful ones on the side vs rear? I cant shell out for 4 rears just to get them to match.

thanks for any help!!

Hello, new to the site. Just began to set up HT. Decided to go with Klipsches, thanks to this site and other references.

Got the RB-51 bookshelves and the RC-52 CC. I got the Mirage S-8 sub and some Bose 161's as satellites. The AVR is an Onkyo S605 with a Vizio GF42. I need a recommendation about the sub and the satellites. Should I spring an extra $150 for a RW-10 sub? That way the sub will match the reference series center and bookshelves.

Also need a recommendation on the satellites. Can't seem to find any to match the reference series center, bookshelves, (and maybe sub). Will the RS-10's be a good match.

Thanks in advance.

hey guys, interested in Klipsch - Synergy III or Klipsch - Reference, which is better? They retail for about the same. No idea about HT (noob). This will be for my living room which is on the medium-large side. 25ft by 15ft abouts.

Reference hands down. I just upgraded to Reference from Synergy III's. There is no comparison. If you go with the RF-82's make sure you order your center online and not from Best Buy. Best Buy for whatever reason does not having the RC-62 which is the matching center for the RF-82's.

HTH

Chris

I hear these stories about people using mid-level Denon receivers to power their 82's, and I start to wonder if it really makes sense to upgrade my 140w x 7 Pioneer Elite receiver via an external amp. For most speakers I would say yes, but the experiences on here seem to indicate people are fairly happy with much less power.

Thank you for the reply Chris.

I was going to go with 2.1 setup for now and slowly build up my 5.1 system. Should I opt for the RF-82s or go with RF-62s with the size of my room? 25ft by 15ft abouts.

Planning to run these on an Onkyo SR-705. The receiver is rated at 100w/channel and the RF-62s are rated to handle 125w. I live in a townhouse so I don't want to shake the walls (too much)

My room is 25X17x10 so the size is pretty close to yours. I prefer the sound of the 82 over the 62. Either one needs a sub in my opinion but I prefer meaty bass and use mine primarily for gaming and HT. PM me your email and I will tell you where I got mine at.

The room is big enough for Klipschorns, so that's not a problem.

I too have contemplated more power for my HT, but after reading opinions on both sides of the issue and really enjoying my Home Theater being powered with Denon THX ultra II AVR's (admittedly, not mid level), I have decided on numerous occasions not doing as you suggest.

Given that the RF- 82's don't seem to be as hard to drive (i.e., no impedance dips as low as the RF-7's) you may be making a good decision as well. That being said, I saw a post on the Klipsch Forum that both QSC and Crown have on line rebates for their amps if you or any others do decide to try this route.

I just install 4 R5650S to complement my Reference front sound stage. They sound good but I am disappointed in Audessy on my Onkyo reporting them as only going as low as 150hz not anywhere near the reported 60hz. The fronts bookshelf's do reach there specifications. Is this the nature of in-walls as never being able to match the manufacturers spec. Now I didn't build any sort of box for the in-walls can I lower the range if I build some sort of box enclosure.

-Craig

The RF-82's will *run* with less power...but there is a big difference between running and performing to their best. With the Klipsch speakers, the basic rule of thumb I apply for all the ones I design into system is 1.5X RMS as an ideal power level. With the RF-82's that translates into 225 w/ch into 8. This goes the same for all but the RF-83 which should be closer to 2X RMS and stable into 2 ohms. The only exceptions are the Classic series (K-Horns, etc.) which are so bloody efficient that RMS is more than plenty for all but the largest spaces.

Did you stuff the wall cavity? I normally stuff the wall cavity with Roxul, broken up close to the speaker and solid the rest of the way. Also, make sure everything is in phase and you don't have the speakers placed in a null (kinda too late to do anything about that unless you relish drywall repair).
The R5650s' don't go super deep, but I usually get -3db at 80 hz out of them without any problem. The back box does make a big difference (model is the ME-650W) but more so in the fact it gives you a super stable baffle surface.
We'll also sometimes integrate RW-5802 subs with them to give the surround a lot more oomph if they are being used with something large up front like RF-83's.

Hello,

Quote :The only exceptions are the Classic series (K-Horns, etc.) which are so bloody efficient that RMS is more than plenty for all but the largest spaces.

I agree totally. I have 2007 Khorns and LaScalas for 5.1. When I first got the speakers I had a Halo A51. It is hard to describe but the speaker sounded over loaded. I switched to 4 Halo A23 (going 7.1). The sound is night and day going 125 watts from 250 watts. More refined detailed without being harsh. Its been awhile since we have seen you on the forum Soundood where have you been?

rmlowz

Hey Soundood

I pick up my Klipch speakers from you last year. They have been awesome. I have the RF-62 package. I've been thinking about a Yamaha 3800 and or a Denon 3808ci. But from what you have said would I be better off using say a a 2808ci as a switch and getting a dedicated 5 channel amp?

I noticed from your web site that you carry Marantz, how do they sound with Klipsch?

Busy, busy busy. I own The Soundbroker, which I do for fun as much as profit after 28 years in the biz. I also own a Mold Remediation and Structural Drying company (deadmold.com). I also developed and built a mobile biodiesel-fired structural drying system. That company is growing like gangbusters and is taking a bunch of time to get things set up on autopilot (or as much as you can with employees to babysit). The results...not much time for AVS.

Glad to hear you are still digging them...they are fun speakers, definitely great bang for the bucks!
To your question...I am a big fan of horsepower as anybody who follows my posts has figured out . So I tend to go for the bigger horsepower. That being said, I do like the Marantz/Klipsch Kombo. Marantz, to my ears, is a bit smoother than the Denon...though they are both built by Sherwood, I think the engineering teams are different. Seems they spend a bit less into the absolute latest tech and a bit more into the fundamentals (amp/preamp stage). Just did a local system with 3 RB-81's behind an AT screen with dipoles on the sides and an ED sub (cause it is soo stupidly good, even though I make bubkis on it). We used a Marantz AVR and the results were pretty nice. I'd opt for a dedicated amp/preamp setup every time (really liking the Onkyo PR-885 AVP for the bucks...balanced= ) but if an AVR is in the budget, then the Marantz is a good match with the Klipsch.

I also did an identical setup (I consider it to be a poor man's THX Ultra 2 setup) where the client opted for the HK AVR-645 and I have to admit, it turned my head. That amp has some beef to it and is a fav on the Klipsch forum.

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Not sure what to do here. I have the epic C3's since 1996. Have been thinking about changing to the bookshelf 82's for my fronts for my home theater. Will I be making to much of a downgrade here if I do that, or do the 82's put out that good sound? Bass is not a big issue because I have the big 15" sub klipsch made in late ninties in a corner.

thanku for your thoughts

This is the perfect scenario for doing an actually a/b comparision. Worst case find a listening room that will match your setup closely (I'd recommend just doing a 2-channel + sub comparison)...hopefully the dealer will lend you a pair.

I would love to 'hear' a set of Fortes or Chorus compared to my Quartet's..as it is I am more than likely looking at being able to quickly hear them at some random house I find off Craigslist/ebay to listen as I buy them.

The big thing I consider with much of this stuff is are you upgrading because you feel you need to or simply because you can? Both are great reasons, but only one will probably guarantee an noticeable improvement.

Quick Noob question for you Klipsch owners.

I just bought a set of Synergy III's and am looking to upgrade the rest of my speakers (I have bose right now...yuk). Anyway, can I use a Reference Center speaker with my synergy mains? I hear the two most important speakers are the center channel and the subwoofer.

I am pushing them with a Yamaha RX-V2095 if that helps.

Thanks in advance.

A noob to the forum, but a dyed-in-the-wool Klipsch owner for years. I have finally set up my dream home theater. I am replacing my RB-35s with RB-81s and my RS-35s with RS-52s. What I am puzzling over is whether I should also replace my RC-35 with an RC-62. The Klipsch site shows the RC-62 as the match to the RB-81. However, looking at the specs between the 2, I am struck by how similar the numbers are, including frequency response, sensitivity, physical dimensions, drivers, etc. There does seem to be a distinct difference in the High Freq crossover between the two. How much does that influence the sound character.

It would certainly not be that big a deal to make the change, but I just have to wonder how much of a difference in audible character I might find. Nope, cannot A-B them. Has anyone had experience comparing the two?

Thanks for any help.

You can use one, but it would be better to pick a Synergy center channel.

Thats what I thought but I just wanted to be sure. Thanks for your reply.

Is there an online list or link for authorized online dealers somewhere? TIA
All I can find on the Klipsch website is two B/M dealers near me.

Anyone using the Reference with Pioneer AVRs? Your opinions would be appreciated. Thank you.

That isn't surprising. Here in Jacksonville, Klipsch Reference series is only carried by custom installers.

Klipsch also activly pursues unauthorized online dealers.

So far, they haven't gone after this online retailer. Their website claims they are authorized. You could check with Klipsch to make sure.

You could also do what I did: expand your zip code search on the Klipsch authorized dealer locator to see if there is anyone in your surrounding area.

Tman2ks:
Klipsch dealers are not easy to find. You might try googling them.
JJK

I bought the F-3, too, on black Friday. I will get center RC-52 due to my TV stand size. It's very close to F-3. The Bestbuy guy said it's a very good match. I will not upgrade other speakers.