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post #15481 of 35233
I have everything up and running...screen drops down nicely in front of plasma and av equipment. And of course my 3 RF 7IIS
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post #15482 of 35233
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

Nothing like having people get up and put their ear up against the center because they were so sure I was cheating and it was on.

My La Scala didn't disappear until they were 18 feet apart, toed in drastically simulating Klipschorn placement at 45 degrees. Then I dropped in Klipschorns and got the same effect. Maybe you just need more room between your Jubs?

I have had my friend do the same thing in my very small den.( He has a room full of Klipsch) I have Cornwalls in corners 8' apart towed in and Klipsch RC-62II in the middle mounted on the wall at just above ear level above the flat screen.
Middle seat of sofa is center about 8' back.
post #15483 of 35233
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

I have everything up and running...screen drops down nicely in front of plasma and av equipment. And of course my 3 RF 7IIS

That looks awesome man! How's it look on blu rays?
post #15484 of 35233
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Originally Posted by tony123 View Post

Reference Head, I'm a LaScala owner and will agree with you on your points regarding aesthetics as well as some other comments.

Regarding performance, I'll put a twist into your comments. There's a tonal difference that some will like and some won't. And in my experience, there's an ability to fill up large spaces that will be necessary for some buyers. My room, for instance, is 32' long. The LaScala have a way of "punching" all the way to the back of the room that none of the Reference or THX models I tried was able to do. You'll see LaScala used in Gymnasiums, etc. Those are applications that I think the 7's or 83's would come up short. I know, who's listening in gymnasiums, right? But it supports the observations in my room.

One thing that I'm in complete agreement on is when using retail pricing for the comparison. I would not own LaScala if my front three had been $9,000. But they weren't, they were about $1300. So now, you compare my $1300 sound to a pair of 7's and an RC64 (I don't know street pricing on that, but retail is $3200+1300= $4500). The value (removing aesthetics from the equation) becomes heavily skewed towards the Heritage option.

Outside of the speaker discussion, spending money on "new instead of someone else's old" is a real commentary on a problem that modern society has. We're consumerists and will go to all costs to have that "new car smell". I'm the opposite. I enjoy giving a demo, wiping up the drool and then telling them that my speakers are all 30+ years old. I also enjoy telling people that I haven't had a car payment in over 15 years.

Don't misunderstand me. If it's within somones means, and it is there choice, then by all means, get what you want. But that's not the case for far too many folks these days. You don't need to look any further than the failure of the banking system to support that theory!

How did I get on that subject? sorry...

And I agree with "The Son". Lot's of fun dialogue here lately!

Good points tony and I agree that they have a good place in the used market. My post was more way they aren't in stores and as popular anymore.
post #15485 of 35233
I have another stupid question.. *waits for the sighs* LOL...

Just purchased my system today and should be here mid next week, question is, will the speakers come with the speaker wire needed to connect to the receiver(Denon 2112ci) or should I head over to monoprice now and order what I will need? If so, what will I need exactly? Told you I was a noob with all this home audio stuff! Thanks, appreciate it!
post #15486 of 35233
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post
I have another stupid question.. *waits for the sighs* LOL...

Just purchased my system today and should be here mid next week, question is, will the speakers come with the speaker wire needed to connect to the receiver(Denon 2112ci) or should I head over to monoprice now and order what I will need? If so, what will I need exactly? Told you I was a noob with all this home audio stuff! Thanks, appreciate it!
Yeah you will need speaker wire
I use the 12 AWG from Mono-price
post #15487 of 35233
Currently I have the B3 as fronts, C2 as center and S2 as surrounds. I am hunting for an AVR. The speakers are rated at 100W. For the AVR, should i look for something than can deliver more than 100W per channel? Will 90W per channel (Denon 1712) suffice?
post #15488 of 35233
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post
I have had my friend do the same thing in my very small den.( He has a room full of Klipsch) I have Cornwalls in corners 8' apart towed in and Klipsch RC-62II in the middle mounted on the wall at just above ear level above the flat screen.
Middle seat of sofa is center about 8' back.
Sweet! I have never heard Cornwalls...
post #15489 of 35233
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy

Yeah you will need speaker wire
I use the 12 AWG from Mono-price
Thank you.
post #15490 of 35233
Forgot to ask... do I need banana plugs or will I just connect the wire to the speakers and receiver? From memory, plugs are kinda pointless, right?
post #15491 of 35233
I like the plugs for a neater look without the possibility of a stray strand crossing to the wrong pole.

Kevin
post #15492 of 35233
Do you lose any quality at all with them?
post #15493 of 35233
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post
Sweet! I have never heard Cornwalls...
Hard to explain what I hear. Late Dad and Brother have owned most all of the Heritage line in the last 50 years. Pop had Khorns and one LaScala in huge open living room.A Cornwall is somewhere inbetween the two..."Boxie" or "Woodie" sounding low bass on music at very low volume settings with the Corns 15" woofers.. Pop had my Cornwalls in rather large Game room with bar and pool table. My Brother came over after I installed the Cornwalls in small den and he was "Suprised" he said they NEVER sounded like this at dad's. small room and having them in corners towed in and a room full of Reference horns for my 5.2 HT system rattles the plates in the other room. If you want your system to sound better with smaller speakers??? Place them in a smaller room, you are closer and more energy in closer space. But not too close, every speaker needs some space.
post #15494 of 35233
I don't think you lose any quality. You do need to buy a good quality connector. Luckily they are not very expensive. If you are worried about the connection, you could use a solder type connection. I am using the screw type banana plugs. Really nice if you have to move a speaker. Tinning the ends of the cables could work well also.

Kevin
post #15495 of 35233
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Originally Posted by PhotoKevin View Post
I don't think you lose any quality. You do need to buy a good quality connector. Luckily they are not very expensive. If you are worried about the connection, you could use a solder type connection. I am using the screw type banana plugs. Really nice if you have to move a speaker. Tinning the ends of the cables could work well also.

Kevin
I agree with Kevin. I have been hooking up Klipsch speakers for 30 years (Pop owned a pair first) Back in the day Pop had a solid copper insulated wire that was a small wire hooked up to Cornwalls that are SWEET sounding..suprised when I moved them to my house and saw how the Old Man had the connected to a old McIntosh seperates. I spent some coin on trick speaker cables and not sure there was any difference other then my wallet was lighter.
post #15496 of 35233
The only rules I have for speaker wire is check the gauge and from a known supplier and correct rating for installation. (A good wire company not necessarily a speaker wire company) I do have some old monster that came on the spools but it is from 1985. That is what is connecting the HIIs in my two channel system right now. I have in-wall rated on the HT 7.1 system downstairs. Everything I have is 12 gauge. I am using monster banana plugs downstairs. They are a little pricey for what they are but I do like the way they connect. I have some cheaper twin bananas with a set screw on the 2 channel system.

Kevin
post #15497 of 35233
Thanks for the replies, just purchased 12 guage wire(2 rolls of 50ft) and banana plugs from monoprice and a few other things I have been putting off. Hopefully I have everything I'll need once my receiver and speakers get here next week! Thanks again I appreciate it!!
post #15498 of 35233
This is the speaker wire I purchased, http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

should I have gotten this instead....

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Is the CL2 better??? I wont be installing in wall.
post #15499 of 35233
Just picked up KG 4.5's locally. Paid $150. That's a steal! This will replace the KG3.5's in the bedroom. Who wants the KG 3.5's?

Will also be picking up KG4.2's this weekend for the living room
post #15500 of 35233
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post
This is the speaker wire I purchased, http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

should I have gotten this instead....

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Is the CL2 better??? I wont be installing in wall.
I looked at them both. I have wire like what you purchased up two walls and in the attic hooking up surround speakers in my house. They have been fine for years now. Hook up with what you have those are good wires. I did buy spools so they are all one wire from amp to each speaker with NO splices. I used the Black lettering as - and the white lettering on the wire for +
some speaker wire does not have a red+ and black - when hooking up to amp and speakers.
post #15501 of 35233
Thank you Louis!
post #15502 of 35233
That looks fine. You only need CL2 for in-wall. Usually the same wire with a different jacket.

Kevin
post #15503 of 35233
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Originally Posted by PhotoKevin View Post
That looks fine. You only need CL2 for in-wall. Usually the same wire with a different jacket.

Kevin
Ditto but they were more coin and he has new wire like I used in wall several years ago so..........
post #15504 of 35233
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Originally Posted by Reference_head View Post
That looks awesome man! How's it look on blu rays?
Blu is clearer still even though hd looks excellent. Just finished watching 3 blu-rays. Going to have to watch some 3D on ESPN and bluray. PJ is capable of that. Sitting 10' away and a 110" screen, pretty clear. Have to say on par or maybe a touch ahead of my plasma.
post #15505 of 35233
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post
Hard to explain what I hear. Late Dad and Brother have owned most all of the Heritage line in the last 50 years. Pop had Khorns and one LaScala in huge open living room.A Cornwall is somewhere inbetween the two..."Boxie" or "Woodie" sounding low bass on music at very low volume settings with the Corns 15" woofers.. Pop had my Cornwalls in rather large Game room with bar and pool table. My Brother came over after I installed the Cornwalls in small den and he was "Suprised" he said they NEVER sounded like this at dad's. small room and having them in corners towed in and a room full of Reference horns for my 5.2 HT system rattles the plates in the other room. If you want your system to sound better with smaller speakers??? Place them in a smaller room, you are closer and more energy in closer space. But not too close, every speaker needs some space.
Thanks. I'll have to find some to hear someday. Pretty rare in these parts.
post #15506 of 35233
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post
This is the speaker wire I purchased, http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

should I have gotten this instead....

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Is the CL2 better??? I wont be installing in wall.
I use both of these and they are both fine products. The first looks more impressive, I'd say. I am using the in-wall version for my more recent in-wall runs just to be in the legit side, but I do have some of the first kind in my suspended ceiling as well, installed before. There is so much stuff there (some thin stuff installed by the previous owner) that I doubt it makes a difference as a fire hazard.
post #15507 of 35233
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

Just picked up KG 4.5's locally. Paid $150. That's a steal! This will replace the KG3.5's in the bedroom. Who wants the KG 3.5's?

Will also be picking up KG4.2's this weekend for the living room



You have PM my friend!
post #15508 of 35233
Mupi, those KG's at that price is exactly what I try to preach on all the threads that folks want to know what to buy with a small budget! Most of the time they get steered towards a cheapie new speaker. However, your choice will stomp those in the ground! Congrats!
post #15509 of 35233
Absolutely! 54 lbs, 95 dB sensitivity speakers with real wood veneer for $150? Can't beat that!
post #15510 of 35233
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Originally Posted by tony123 View Post

Mupi, those KG's at that price is exactly what I try to preach on all the threads that folks want to know what to buy with a small budget! Most of the time they get steered towards a cheapie new speaker. However, your choice will stomp those in the ground! Congrats!

Yep I find the KG series to be a good bang for the buck. I like them more than the RF82 or RB81. The 4.5's are very rare on eBay and even if they get listed, no one would ship them. So to find them in good shape (except for a couple of small dings) locally for $150 is a steal. This guy also had the KG 5.5's for $225 but they are way too heavy for me at 69lb each. He was moving and so was trying to get rid of them. He listed them just a couple of days back and both the 4.5's and 5.5's are gone now!

Guys here should seriously consider the KG series (3, 3.2, 3.5, 4, 4.2, 4.5, 5.2, 5.5) and also the Heresy II's. Make sure you ask the seller if the cabinets have any old musty smell. Some people store them in a basement and so they may get that musty smell. eBay is the place to find them. You do find them sometimes on Audiogon.
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