Klipsch owner thread - Page 524

With Antimode 8033 you cant see anything, including the sub.

I didnt know that SMS-1 will allow me to see the response of other speakers. Basically it will let me run the sweep and see the curve instead of me me having to use a laptop and use REW (Room EQ Wizard)? That would alone be be a good reason to get it. But at $498? May be not. I may get a laptop and use REW as I can use the laptop for lot of other things. With a laptop and REW, the measurement is automated.

My only issue with SMS-1 is that it only has offers 8 filters. Are these 8 only for manual parametric EQ or it uses only 8 filters for automatic sub correction also. Are 8 filters good enough? I have used BFD 1124p with 12 filters and I could not get a flat curve using 12 filters. I had to use The FBQ2496 which has 20 filters. But the manual measuring of the response was painful. So I gave up BFD and got the Antimode 8033. Unfortunately with Antimode I would still have to do the manual measurement but at least the correction is automatic and does a better job than BFD 1124p or FBQ2406, I presume.

I will wait for the Audyssey XT32 gear prices to drop :-)

I wonder if anyone has posted real, measurable proof that the antimode does, in fact, do a better job. I'd be tempted but wouldn't be comfortable not seeing what it's doing. I'm currently using an 1124 with five filters. It is a vast improvement over no EQ at all, but I lack the technical knowlege to use and apply REW.

It has been compared to Audyssey sub eq and both are pretty much identical. It does not have a way to display the curve, so does Audyssey MultEQ XT. So you have to do your own measurement just like you would do for BFD 1124.

I used REW with BFD 1124 and FBQ 2496. I dont have a laptop to do the sweep. So I have to do the measurement manually every time which is very painful.

Antimode 8033 is so much easier to use compared to Audyssey. Just press 2 buttons and you are done. I trust my ears until I get a laptop :-)

I'm waiting for Pioneer to release its replacement for the Elite 37 and the new version will have 9.1 channels. My mains are Epic CF-3's, and my center is a KV-4. Since I'll now have the option of using height channels, what would be a good match to my front sound stage for height speaker? I'm thinking maybe the KG line? Thanks.

It has nine filters that are adjustable to any frequencies you need. There is another one on a different screen. The 8 on the main screen all have an adjustable Q setting giving them the ability to filter a lot more than just 9 filters. The sms-1 is intergraded into your set up so it's always hooked up and can be tweaked with the remote live.

If anyone is interested in some RF-7's, AVS is now selling them for $999 a piece. Thats a pretty good price.

for 1's or 2's?

got lucky and found another set of vintage klipsch heritage speakers...mint in box for sale locally. I was surprised at how good the condition was... I expected them to be well used Heresy 1's even though the seller said mint condition on the telephone. all corners are perfect, cane grills, original boxes.





I changed my set up, pulled out the KLF10 speakers and slipped in the new vintage heresys. These sound is much more matched to the Cornwalls... same Timbre.

the set up sounds wonderful.


temporary set up but at least the monitor is up on the wall finally.

Now the hunt begins for Cornwall Cane grills

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Call Bob Crites I bet he knows someone with the cane grills. I like the Black

but to each his own I have my Pop's old 1979 Cornwall I (new Crires C/O) and my 1989 Heresey II try them for front and rear for HT Blurays and a Klipsch center speaker or one more Heresey and a sub. I use a RC64II for my center and two used Klipsch Synergy Sub12 300/650 Bash in a smaller 12X14 or so den.......Shakes the room with just a Yamaha HD AVR RX-V1900 130x7
I was going to add amps but just not needed with Heritage speakes and such a small room. Nice lookin gear and room.
Louis

TY sir... I have crites 125's in my CW's, I may give him a jingle on the tele.

my room is fair sized for this set up, it's about 25' along that wall you see there.
I could switch my klf's to rears I guess... 5.1 is about as far as I can see myself going.

I will probably go with a rc64 or a c7 soon, well see.

Good luck finding a good used C7 I looked for months and they were going for the same price as a new RC-64 A stock(epray) last year. I got out bid and finally found a A stock RC64-II
the C7 has a the matching horn like the KLF20(as you know). I helped a friend repair a set of KLF20 that had come unglued. He has 4 and the C7 and a SVS Ultra 13 in room about the size of yours WOW it sounds Great on movie or music. I do like my Corns better on stereo that 'Woodie" bass but the go for the C7 better voices and with your KLF20 for rear.perfect.

Looks good nice room. Have you tried moving the corns out from the corners? 25ft is pretty wide unless your 25ft away from your speakers. You want to make as close to a perfect triangle as you can. L-R-LP (all the same distance)

Also you could run a splitter off an amp and use your new speakers as a center.

Cornwalls are meant to be in corners they just sound better there & that's what Klipsch told me 30+ years ago when I bought my 1st set . they will rock the way you have them set-up MSshu18 you might toe them in slightly more . after having mine 30+ years i always go back to corner placement. they just have better bass response & better imaging in the corners. mine are now CornScalas that I did the Crites mods on 4 of them in winter of 2010. Paul Klipsch designed them to be used in the corners. i have had them in bigger room than yours & they still filled the room. Nice find on the cane grill Hersey's those are Rare ! Look into replacing the oil caps in the XO's . good find & good luck !

I've been experimenting further with the LaScala crossovers. In the last go round, I added polycarbonate bypass films and really did appreciate the difference in sound. Not at first, but after a 40 hour burn in time. It became a "smoother" sound...whatever that means.

So, the fellow that helped me with the first change suggested that I might enjoy trying some metal film bypass. Supposed to be more revealing of a sound. So, I gave it a go.



Right away I could tell that I changed something, and it wasn't good. The sound was very harsh and, well, metallic. It was suggested that they need a good 40 hours to settle in. I'm about halfway there now and do think that my objections are going away. I'll report back in a month.

I also got all matching caps and bypasses for the Heresies (surround). Here's the crossover from them.

I've been thinking of messing with the crossover in the la scala too but I ended up deciding to deal with my room first.

I'm looking at taking everything non essential that's electronic or generally that makes any noise first. Right now I have 2 pcs in the room and a beer fridge along with a freezer in a utility closet.

The pcs I'm thinking of moving to a closet. The fridge I can't move anywhere so I'll be looking at a way to make it a bit more quiet and if I can't I may just get rid of it. I like the idea of a beer fridge but truthfully I just drink any beer I have in it so it's not stored long

The freezer in the closet isn't loud at all but it is audible. I have 2 closets in the room so with the pcs in one and the freezer in the other I'm thinking of sealing the doors around the edges.

I'll do some diy acoustic panels for the next stage.

Brandon, room changes have had as much an effect on sound as anything for me too. I'm fairly well satisfied with all my treatments. However, the room just isn't tight enough for the Danleys. When they hit, it can sound like someone just hit the house with a car. The lights rattle, the walls rattle, the cabinets rattle. At some point, I'll try to chase all that down.

I did get all the equipment into another room, minus the projector. That was a bigger improvement than expected. Not only to lower the noise ceiling, but also got the heat and lights out of the room.

I'll be searching for different ways to make my room more quiet and hold in more sound. It will take some work because my room wasn't designed as a home theater or a media room from the get go.

And damn my android phone!!! It's almost as if I breathe too close to the send button it sends my partial message and I'm off to a quick edit.

This time got the KG 2.5 at the local CL for $70. They are going for as high as $200+shipping on eBay! Sanded them and ready for a new stain. They are DIY stands, to be painted/stained as well. Very stable unlike the cheap crap they sell online that only hold a tiny speaker. I made them last year. They have a 15" square base so very stable. 40" tall. Top plate can either take a narrow or wide speaker, just have to rotate the stand by 90 deg.

I have never been a big fan of 5.1 or 7.1. More over my room always didnt have much space for rears. Even now they are not perfect. Not to mention the pain of running Audyssey for all channels. I ran Audyssey for my 3.1 set up (3 KG4.2's and Sunfire junior sub) finally and they sound great. There is so much bass from the KG4.2's even without a sub. I have turned off the sub through my Denon 3310. Why spend more on new speakers when I can get good sound for a fraction of the cost on the KG's. I can tell you that the KG's are the best bang for the buck I have seen so far in my speaker search. You just have to look for them in good shape. Some sanding and restaining is all they need, unless you end up getting some from eBay that have smell.

The KG 2.5's are not hooked. They look cool as is . I might just sell them for $150 as I am not a big fan of 5.1 or 7.1. More over my PJ will die soon as it has 4800+ hrs and after that I will only have a 46" TV which is too small to have 5.1 or 7.1. Got to have a big screen for HT

Dont laugh at my blue couch. I dont care much about decor.

Mupi
I am old school...61...... and finally I caved in from wife for a 5..2 HT system for Bluray movies........WOW I was suprised how good the audio is on the HD movies. I wanted to use my Heresey II for rears but my room is odd so I mounted RS3-II up on the wall and tilted them down some to aim at the rear of the sofa and in line with my Cornwall fronts and RC62-II center for my 55" flatt screen and added 2 used Synergy Sub 12" 300/650 I ran Yamaha veison of Aydessey several times and set them up as Small and used a SPL meter and finally I have them sounding GREAT in this small 12x14 room Blurays seperation front to rear is great. I was missing a lot of cool sound effects.

Sure HD audio is so much better than regular DD or DTS. I dont have BR player. With a 46" TV, it may not be all that enjoyable as the image is going to be so small compared to my projector now. So unless I get a new 1080p projector, no 5.1 for me. There are a couple of 1080p projectors like Epson 8350 but they have issues. Even the Epson 8700 has issues. The technology is improving but the quality of the projectors is not. They all want to make some cheap crap in China with all the bells and whistles but there is no quality.

The people at Washington are just idiots. It is no rocket science. The US economy is bad because all the manufacturing has gone offshore. So putting a few bucks in our pockets (stimulus) or lowering the tax (again a few bucks more in our pockets) is not going to cut it. The manufacturing has to be brought back to US as it was in the early 90's. Anyway...off topic. Just venting my out frustration :-) I just cant stand this left-right bickering that
goes on TV everyday.

Wow! Nice!

I agree with fastslappy. Keep the Corns where they are but try increasing the toe-in such that they are pointing directly at you. Then play stereo music and see if they disappear from the room.

The amount of enjoyment surround sound adds to the movie watching experience has nothing to do with screen size for me.
I added surround sound when I still had a 25" Trinitron and it was well worth the the small amount of effort it took to route the wires and calibrate the system.
You don't need to have Blu-Ray with HD audio to get excellent quality sound either, Dolby Digital and DTS have been and still are very good formats.
The auto cal features of the new AVRs is very impressive and only takes 10 minutes to run.

thanks folks... the sound is as if there is a wall of speakers. the toe is good right where they are for now I tried many different angles including 45 degrees. as matter of fact, the right speaker is toed more than the left. very very happy for now. I know toe looks weird in those pictures, but they do point ifn a good direction

I also don't see the link Mupi... You said it yourself, the HD sound is far superior to regular DD or DTS on DVD. So get a BR and feed it to your projector even if your projector isn't 1080p. My TV is 720p and I use a BR player just fine!

Actually, the regular DD streams on Blue Rays are often nearly as good as the HD sound on them (i.e. much better than DD on DVD) because of the enhanced bitrate. The audio files are just so much larger!

Well mine is a 480p PJ (Infocus IN72) with 4800+ hours. May die any day now. So I am hesitant to put too much money into HD audio. I am just lucky it has 4800 hrs. Many IN72 owners had issues at low hours. The low end 1080p projectors all have some issues. Like I said there isnt much quality control for these cheap crap made in China. Even the $2000 Epson 8700 has convergence issues. I am waiting for LED projector to become mainstream. At least there wont be a darn noisy fan.

IMO the one audio channel to receive the best benefit from HD audio is the LFE channel.

Kind of odd question...

I painted the la scala's yesterday and between my paint job and the previous paint job a lot of the serial number stickers on the back have paint on them. Can I get new stickers?

Just ran across this.

http://nashville.craigslist.org/ele/2499410638.html

2003 model 2 rf-3 II, rc-3II, and 2 rs-3 II for $650. I have no use for them in my system right now so I thought I'd pass it along here. Couple years ago I would have jumped on something like that.

I doubt it, but the numbers are stamped in the plywood edge on the back, aren't they?